Jaimini's teachings on the circumstances of death (Bush chart comments)

[Guest guest]

Dear Sarajit,

 

I only wanted to talk about AL vs A7 for now and wanted the evade

the question of 3rd house vs 8th house. The question - are the 3rd

and 8th houses from AL interchangable or do they show two different

aspects related to death? Jaimini talks about 5th and 10th too. We

have to understand the respective uses instead of using all of them

interchangably.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Namaste Narasimha,

>

> Thanks for putting and explaining the concepts so precisely.

However, you didn't take the 8th house from the relevant Arudha. I

think that also matters a alot. Now in Indira Gandhi's case, third

from AL has only Ketu and you said Rahu's aspect it the key as it

shows the duata marana yoga. However when the question comes, why

was she shot, she could have been pushed from a 10 storey building.

Now, we have sufficient reason to believe that it couldnot have been

other way round. This is because the 8th from AL has Sun.

>

> In Mahatma Gandhi's case, the 8th is aspected by Jup along with

Ma, Ve, Me. The aspect of so many benefics, didn't make it as

violent as that of Rajiv Gandhi. Jup's aspect shows that he was

aware of his death.

>

> It is agreed that there is a terrible duta marana yoga in the

horoscope of Rajeev Gandhi as Rahu occupies the third from the AL.

However Rahu's evil is under control in Cancer, why did it get

accentuated to show such as terrible death. This we can see from

aspect of Saturn and Mars. The malefic's ONLY influence on the 3rd

and 8th, shows that.

>

> You have cited John Lennon's case. Here it not at all clear when

we see 3rd from AL, why did he die a violent death. You have said we

can see this in Rudramsa. However, Jaimini says you can see it in

rasi chart too. See his 8th from AL and it would be clear. It is

occupied by Mars, Rahu and Sun.

>

> In the Columbia Spaced Shuttle disaster, the 8th from AL has Moon.

When Moon is involved, we can see the Navamsa sign occupied by Moon.

This happens to be Capricorn, which suggests violent or bad-death.

Now Sun the planet, placed in 3rd from AL also happens to be in the

same Navamsa, strenthening the indications.

>

> Maharishi Jamini also spoke of the 3rd and 8th from AK. However

this can be interpreted as experiences of the Soul while one dies.

The death can be painful and excruciating as shown by AL, however,

the person can be at peace, while dying. Now I have more reasons to

believe that Mahatma Gandhi took the name of Rama becuase Sun is in

the 3rd from AK Moon. Now Moon happens to be with AL, so what you

said is indirectly correct.

>

> Incase of Rajiv Gandhi, he was warned before his death, however

even knowing that he was not concerned about that. This shows at the

time of death he would have been too confortable with himself. This

is shown by aspect of many benefics on the 3rd from AK. However this

cannot be verifiable.

>

> I understand that it is good to look at Rudramsa for confirming or

judging the intensity of the event. However we can still take

Trimsama and Kaulukamsa position for exact dilineation of the

circumstances of death. These are the three divisions which

Maharishi gave immeidiately after the determination of circumstances

of death from the Rasi chart.

>

> Thanks for initiating this nice discussion on the topic.

>

> Best Regards

> Sarajit

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Jaya Jagannath

Namaste Narasimha,

 

Generally I don't to use the term interchangeably and try to find the

real purport. Now as I am taught by Gurudev, the planet in the 3rd and

8th from AL shall show the nature of death. However only the 3rd house

from AL shows the place of death. The 5th house shows the tithi of

death and 10th house is a important determinant in finding the

longivity of a native along with Lagna or 8th lord. If the lords of the

1/8/10 are well placed and doen't join Saturn, then this shows good

longevity.

 

However the 8th is equally important in ascertaining the conditions of

death.

 

Wherever I say AL, take stronger of AL/ A7.

 

I guess more discussions will put more light in this area, if we are

missing out something.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> I only wanted to talk about AL vs A7 for now and wanted the evade

> the question of 3rd house vs 8th house. The question - are the 3rd

> and 8th houses from AL interchangable or do they show two different

> aspects related to death? Jaimini talks about 5th and 10th too. We

> have to understand the respective uses instead of using all of them

> interchangably.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> > || Jaya Jagannath ||

> > Namaste Narasimha,

> >

> > Thanks for putting and explaining the concepts so precisely.

> However, you didn't take the 8th house from the relevant Arudha. I

> think that also matters a alot. Now in Indira Gandhi's case, third

> from AL has only Ketu and you said Rahu's aspect it the key as it

> shows the duata marana yoga. However when the question comes, why

> was she shot, she could have been pushed from a 10 storey building.

> Now, we have sufficient reason to believe that it couldnot have been

> other way round. This is because the 8th from AL has Sun.

> >

> > In Mahatma Gandhi's case, the 8th is aspected by Jup along with

> Ma, Ve, Me. The aspect of so many benefics, didn't make it as

> violent as that of Rajiv Gandhi. Jup's aspect shows that he was

> aware of his death.

> >

> > It is agreed that there is a terrible duta marana yoga in the

> horoscope of Rajeev Gandhi as Rahu occupies the third from the AL.

> However Rahu's evil is under control in Cancer, why did it get

> accentuated to show such as terrible death. This we can see from

> aspect of Saturn and Mars. The malefic's ONLY influence on the 3rd

> and 8th, shows that.

> >

> > You have cited John Lennon's case. Here it not at all clear when

> we see 3rd from AL, why did he die a violent death. You have said we

> can see this in Rudramsa. However, Jaimini says you can see it in

> rasi chart too. See his 8th from AL and it would be clear. It is

> occupied by Mars, Rahu and Sun.

> >

> > In the Columbia Spaced Shuttle disaster, the 8th from AL has Moon.

> When Moon is involved, we can see the Navamsa sign occupied by Moon.

> This happens to be Capricorn, which suggests violent or bad-death.

> Now Sun the planet, placed in 3rd from AL also happens to be in the

> same Navamsa, strenthening the indications.

> >

> > Maharishi Jamini also spoke of the 3rd and 8th from AK. However

> this can be interpreted as experiences of the Soul while one dies.

> The death can be painful and excruciating as shown by AL, however,

> the person can be at peace, while dying. Now I have more reasons to

> believe that Mahatma Gandhi took the name of Rama becuase Sun is in

> the 3rd from AK Moon. Now Moon happens to be with AL, so what you

> said is indirectly correct.

> >

> > Incase of Rajiv Gandhi, he was warned before his death, however

> even knowing that he was not concerned about that. This shows at the

> time of death he would have been too confortable with himself. This

> is shown by aspect of many benefics on the 3rd from AK. However this

> cannot be verifiable.

> >

> > I understand that it is good to look at Rudramsa for confirming or

> judging the intensity of the event. However we can still take

> Trimsama and Kaulukamsa position for exact dilineation of the

> circumstances of death. These are the three divisions which

> Maharishi gave immeidiately after the determination of circumstances

> of death from the Rasi chart.

> >

> > Thanks for initiating this nice discussion on the topic.

> >

> > Best Regards

> > Sarajit

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Sarajit,

Offcourse we are missing out something!

Maharshi Jaimini clearly gives yogas for grahas in the 5th and 10th showing the

circumstances/causes of death.

 

To add, Varahamihira and other authors put alot of weight on the kendras to

Lagna (as per translation) to see the cause of death.

 

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vedic astrology

Thursday, March 06, 2003 6:40 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Jaimini's teachings on the circumstances of death

(Re: Bush chart comments)

Jaya JagannathNamaste Narasimha,Generally I don't to use the term

interchangeably and try to find the real purport. Now as I am taught by

Gurudev, the planet in the 3rd and 8th from AL shall show the nature of death.

However only the 3rd house from AL shows the place of death. The 5th house

shows the tithi of death and 10th house is a important determinant in finding

the longivity of a native along with Lagna or 8th lord. If the lords of the

1/8/10 are well placed and doen't join Saturn, then this shows good longevity.

However the 8th is equally important in ascertaining the conditions of

death.Wherever I say AL, take stronger of AL/ A7.I guess more discussions will

put more light in this area, if we are missing out something.Best

RegardsSarajit> Dear Sarajit,> > I only wanted to talk about AL vs A7 for now

and wanted the evade > the question of 3rd house vs 8th house. The question -

are the 3rd > and 8th houses from AL interchangable or do they show two

different > aspects related to death? Jaimini talks about 5th and 10th too. We

> have to understand the respective uses instead of using all of them >

interchangably.> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> Narasimha> > > || Jaya

Jagannath ||> > Namaste Narasimha,> > > > Thanks for putting and explaining the

concepts so precisely. > However, you didn't take the 8th house from the

relevant Arudha. I > think that also matters a alot. Now in Indira Gandhi's

case, third > from AL has only Ketu and you said Rahu's aspect it the key as it

> shows the duata marana yoga. However when the question comes, why > was she

shot, she could have been pushed from a 10 storey building. > Now, we have

sufficient reason to believe that it couldnot have been > other way round. This

is because the 8th from AL has Sun.> > > > In Mahatma Gandhi's case, the 8th is

aspected by Jup along with > Ma, Ve, Me. The aspect of so many benefics, didn't

make it as > violent as that of Rajiv Gandhi. Jup's aspect shows that he was >

aware of his death.> > > > It is agreed that there is a terrible duta marana

yoga in the > horoscope of Rajeev Gandhi as Rahu occupies the third from the

AL. > However Rahu's evil is under control in Cancer, why did it get >

accentuated to show such as terrible death. This we can see from > aspect of

Saturn and Mars. The malefic's ONLY influence on the 3rd > and 8th, shows

that.> > > > You have cited John Lennon's case. Here it not at all clear when >

we see 3rd from AL, why did he die a violent death. You have said we > can see

this in Rudramsa. However, Jaimini says you can see it in > rasi chart too. See

his 8th from AL and it would be clear. It is > occupied by Mars, Rahu and Sun.>

> > > In the Columbia Spaced Shuttle disaster, the 8th from AL has Moon. > When

Moon is involved, we can see the Navamsa sign occupied by Moon. > This happens

to be Capricorn, which suggests violent or bad-death. > Now Sun the planet,

placed in 3rd from AL also happens to be in the > same Navamsa, strenthening

the indications.> > > > Maharishi Jamini also spoke of the 3rd and 8th from AK.

However > this can be interpreted as experiences of the Soul while one dies. >

The death can be painful and excruciating as shown by AL, however, > the person

can be at peace, while dying. Now I have more reasons to > believe that Mahatma

Gandhi took the name of Rama becuase Sun is in > the 3rd from AK Moon. Now Moon

happens to be with AL, so what you > said is indirectly correct.> > > > Incase

of Rajiv Gandhi, he was warned before his death, however > even knowing that he

was not concerned about that. This shows at the > time of death he would have

been too confortable with himself. This > is shown by aspect of many benefics

on the 3rd from AK. However this > cannot be verifiable.> > > > I understand

that it is good to look at Rudramsa for confirming or > judging the intensity

of the event. However we can still take > Trimsama and Kaulukamsa position for

exact dilineation of the > circumstances of death. These are the three

divisions which > Maharishi gave immeidiately after the determination of

circumstances > of death from the Rasi chart.> > > > Thanks for initiating this

nice discussion on the topic.> > > > Best Regards> > Sarajit> > > > Archives:

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