Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Dear Narsimhaji, Is it that this concept of AL vs A7 is applicable in other cases also..like 11th from AL shows income, planets in 9th from AL protects etc. Have we to see these also from stronger between AL & A7? regards. jk - pvr108 vedic astrology Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:03 AM [vedic astrology] Jaimini's teachings on the circumstances of death (Re: Bush chart comments) Dear Sarajit,I only wanted to talk about AL vs A7 for now and wanted the evade the question of 3rd house vs 8th house. The question - are the 3rd and 8th houses from AL interchangable or do they show two different aspects related to death? Jaimini talks about 5th and 10th too. We have to understand the respective uses instead of using all of them interchangably.May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha> || Jaya Jagannath ||> Namaste Narasimha,> > Thanks for putting and explaining the concepts so precisely. However, you didn't take the 8th house from the relevant Arudha. I think that also matters a alot. Now in Indira Gandhi's case, third from AL has only Ketu and you said Rahu's aspect it the key as it shows the duata marana yoga. However when the question comes, why was she shot, she could have been pushed from a 10 storey building. Now, we have sufficient reason to believe that it couldnot have been other way round. This is because the 8th from AL has Sun.> > In Mahatma Gandhi's case, the 8th is aspected by Jup along with Ma, Ve, Me. The aspect of so many benefics, didn't make it as violent as that of Rajiv Gandhi. Jup's aspect shows that he was aware of his death.> > It is agreed that there is a terrible duta marana yoga in the horoscope of Rajeev Gandhi as Rahu occupies the third from the AL. However Rahu's evil is under control in Cancer, why did it get accentuated to show such as terrible death. This we can see from aspect of Saturn and Mars. The malefic's ONLY influence on the 3rd and 8th, shows that.> > You have cited John Lennon's case. Here it not at all clear when we see 3rd from AL, why did he die a violent death. You have said we can see this in Rudramsa. However, Jaimini says you can see it in rasi chart too. See his 8th from AL and it would be clear. It is occupied by Mars, Rahu and Sun.> > In the Columbia Spaced Shuttle disaster, the 8th from AL has Moon. When Moon is involved, we can see the Navamsa sign occupied by Moon. This happens to be Capricorn, which suggests violent or bad-death. Now Sun the planet, placed in 3rd from AL also happens to be in the same Navamsa, strenthening the indications.> > Maharishi Jamini also spoke of the 3rd and 8th from AK. However this can be interpreted as experiences of the Soul while one dies. The death can be painful and excruciating as shown by AL, however, the person can be at peace, while dying. Now I have more reasons to believe that Mahatma Gandhi took the name of Rama becuase Sun is in the 3rd from AK Moon. Now Moon happens to be with AL, so what you said is indirectly correct.> > Incase of Rajiv Gandhi, he was warned before his death, however even knowing that he was not concerned about that. This shows at the time of death he would have been too confortable with himself. This is shown by aspect of many benefics on the 3rd from AK. However this cannot be verifiable.> > I understand that it is good to look at Rudramsa for confirming or judging the intensity of the event. However we can still take Trimsama and Kaulukamsa position for exact dilineation of the circumstances of death. These are the three divisions which Maharishi gave immeidiately after the determination of circumstances of death from the Rasi chart.> > Thanks for initiating this nice discussion on the topic.> > Best Regards> SarajitArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Dear sir, Many renowed astrologer do'nt use jaimini's sutram even though they predict abt longetivity accuarletly and also abt almost many events of life.And sir how u differ an Jaimni's sutram from maharishi Parashra.And how see stromger between AL AND AK.And please tell the all rashi effect 3rd from AL and 8th and 10th from AL. vedic astrology, "j.k. dasgupta" <dgasso@v...> wrote: > Dear Narsimhaji, > > Is it that this concept of AL vs A7 is applicable in other cases also..like 11th from AL shows income, planets in 9th from AL protects etc. Have we to see these also from stronger between AL & A7? > > regards. > > jk > - > pvr108 > vedic astrology > Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:03 AM > [vedic astrology] Jaimini's teachings on the circumstances of death (Re: Bush chart comments) > > > Dear Sarajit, > > I only wanted to talk about AL vs A7 for now and wanted the evade > the question of 3rd house vs 8th house. The question - are the 3rd > and 8th houses from AL interchangable or do they show two different > aspects related to death? Jaimini talks about 5th and 10th too. We > have to understand the respective uses instead of using all of them > interchangably. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > Namaste Narasimha, > > > > Thanks for putting and explaining the concepts so precisely. > However, you didn't take the 8th house from the relevant Arudha. I > think that also matters a alot. Now in Indira Gandhi's case, third > from AL has only Ketu and you said Rahu's aspect it the key as it > shows the duata marana yoga. However when the question comes, why > was she shot, she could have been pushed from a 10 storey building. > Now, we have sufficient reason to believe that it couldnot have been > other way round. This is because the 8th from AL has Sun. > > > > In Mahatma Gandhi's case, the 8th is aspected by Jup along with > Ma, Ve, Me. The aspect of so many benefics, didn't make it as > violent as that of Rajiv Gandhi. Jup's aspect shows that he was > aware of his death. > > > > It is agreed that there is a terrible duta marana yoga in the > horoscope of Rajeev Gandhi as Rahu occupies the third from the AL. > However Rahu's evil is under control in Cancer, why did it get > accentuated to show such as terrible death. This we can see from > aspect of Saturn and Mars. The malefic's ONLY influence on the 3rd > and 8th, shows that. > > > > You have cited John Lennon's case. Here it not at all clear when > we see 3rd from AL, why did he die a violent death. You have said we > can see this in Rudramsa. However, Jaimini says you can see it in > rasi chart too. See his 8th from AL and it would be clear. It is > occupied by Mars, Rahu and Sun. > > > > In the Columbia Spaced Shuttle disaster, the 8th from AL has Moon. > When Moon is involved, we can see the Navamsa sign occupied by Moon. > This happens to be Capricorn, which suggests violent or bad- death. > Now Sun the planet, placed in 3rd from AL also happens to be in the > same Navamsa, strenthening the indications. > > > > Maharishi Jamini also spoke of the 3rd and 8th from AK. However > this can be interpreted as experiences of the Soul while one dies. > The death can be painful and excruciating as shown by AL, however, > the person can be at peace, while dying. Now I have more reasons to > believe that Mahatma Gandhi took the name of Rama becuase Sun is in > the 3rd from AK Moon. Now Moon happens to be with AL, so what you > said is indirectly correct. > > > > Incase of Rajiv Gandhi, he was warned before his death, however > even knowing that he was not concerned about that. This shows at the > time of death he would have been too confortable with himself. This > is shown by aspect of many benefics on the 3rd from AK. However this > cannot be verifiable. > > > > I understand that it is good to look at Rudramsa for confirming or > judging the intensity of the event. However we can still take > Trimsama and Kaulukamsa position for exact dilineation of the > circumstances of death. These are the three divisions which > Maharishi gave immeidiately after the determination of circumstances > of death from the Rasi chart. > > > > Thanks for initiating this nice discussion on the topic. > > > > Best Regards > > Sarajit > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 JAYA JAGANNATHA! In my understanding, AL and A7 are not interchangeable at all. houses from A7 will indicate the fortune of the business partner (or the lover if you take that) while from AL for the native. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 - j.k. dasgupta vedic astrology Thursday, March 06, 2003 7:54 AM [vedic astrology] AL vs A7 - narsimhaji Dear Narsimhaji, Is it that this concept of AL vs A7 is applicable in other cases also..like 11th from AL shows income, planets in 9th from AL protects etc. Have we to see these also from stronger between AL & A7? regards. jk - pvr108 vedic astrology Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:03 AM [vedic astrology] Jaimini's teachings on the circumstances of death (Re: Bush chart comments) Dear Sarajit,I only wanted to talk about AL vs A7 for now and wanted the evade the question of 3rd house vs 8th house. The question - are the 3rd and 8th houses from AL interchangable or do they show two different aspects related to death? Jaimini talks about 5th and 10th too. We have to understand the respective uses instead of using all of them interchangably.May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha> || Jaya Jagannath ||> Namaste Narasimha,> > Thanks for putting and explaining the concepts so precisely. However, you didn't take the 8th house from the relevant Arudha. I think that also matters a alot. Now in Indira Gandhi's case, third from AL has only Ketu and you said Rahu's aspect it the key as it shows the duata marana yoga. However when the question comes, why was she shot, she could have been pushed from a 10 storey building. Now, we have sufficient reason to believe that it couldnot have been other way round. This is because the 8th from AL has Sun.> > In Mahatma Gandhi's case, the 8th is aspected by Jup along with Ma, Ve, Me. The aspect of so many benefics, didn't make it as violent as that of Rajiv Gandhi. Jup's aspect shows that he was aware of his death.> > It is agreed that there is a terrible duta marana yoga in the horoscope of Rajeev Gandhi as Rahu occupies the third from the AL. However Rahu's evil is under control in Cancer, why did it get accentuated to show such as terrible death. This we can see from aspect of Saturn and Mars. The malefic's ONLY influence on the 3rd and 8th, shows that.> > You have cited John Lennon's case. Here it not at all clear when we see 3rd from AL, why did he die a violent death. You have said we can see this in Rudramsa. However, Jaimini says you can see it in rasi chart too. See his 8th from AL and it would be clear. It is occupied by Mars, Rahu and Sun.> > In the Columbia Spaced Shuttle disaster, the 8th from AL has Moon. When Moon is involved, we can see the Navamsa sign occupied by Moon. This happens to be Capricorn, which suggests violent or bad-death. Now Sun the planet, placed in 3rd from AL also happens to be in the same Navamsa, strenthening the indications.> > Maharishi Jamini also spoke of the 3rd and 8th from AK. However this can be interpreted as experiences of the Soul while one dies. The death can be painful and excruciating as shown by AL, however, the person can be at peace, while dying. Now I have more reasons to believe that Mahatma Gandhi took the name of Rama becuase Sun is in the 3rd from AK Moon. Now Moon happens to be with AL, so what you said is indirectly correct.> > Incase of Rajiv Gandhi, he was warned before his death, however even knowing that he was not concerned about that. This shows at the time of death he would have been too confortable with himself. This is shown by aspect of many benefics on the 3rd from AK. However this cannot be verifiable.> > I understand that it is good to look at Rudramsa for confirming or judging the intensity of the event. However we can still take Trimsama and Kaulukamsa position for exact dilineation of the circumstances of death. These are the three divisions which Maharishi gave immeidiately after the determination of circumstances of death from the Rasi chart.> > Thanks for initiating this nice discussion on the topic.> > Best Regards> SarajitArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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