vargottama and rashi sandhi

March 10, 2003

Dear chandrasekhar: Thanks for your reply. my understanding (it may be

flawed) of the four major grahas, which could have long term impact,

(jupiter, saturn, raghu and ketu) jupiter, saturn and raghu hovered

around 12th, ist and second house for the last 3-4 years. it is only

after this july when jupiter moves away from cancer and followed by raghu

moving towards aries, geminians could expect some changes. of course it

will be still more better, if saturn also moves away from gemini. till

then an indiviudals favourable dasa/bhukti could devier some of the

better times.

with regards

rangarajan

At 01:03 AM 3/11/03 +0530, you wrote:

Dear

Rangarajan,

For Gemini ascendant Saturn is lord of 8th&9th and Jupiter lord of

7th and 10th.The problems started around the time when Jupiter entered

Capricorn and Saturn was in Pisces.You will find that post his coming to

pisces Saturn was atichari and sat Jup crossed three Rasis almost

together. Currently the Saturn is retro in 12th with rahu.I think my

logic would be clear.

Chandrashekhar.

-

rangarajan vedic astrology Monday, March 10, 2003 5:34 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

dear chandrasekhar:

if possible could you clarify further your statement that "Most of the gemini

ascendant persons are facing problems for last 7 years or so". is it because of

the raghu being in and around gemini and combining with saturn also being

present in and around gemini. i hope you can elaborate at your convenience.

with regards

rangarajan

At 03:33 PM 3/8/03 +0530, you wrote:

Dear Ajit,

You are rightly confused by all the talk about avastha of grahas and their

ability to give rise to yogas and such otherthings that are discusse on the

list.

My advice is never to take any statement in isolation.When avasthas of Grahas

are to be seen then there are two opinions , one is that all planets are

inefective when at 6 degrees and so on; and other who reverse the avasthas for

even and odd rasis.Had that not been the case how would be Moon be in 3degrees

taurus and be called parmoccha?Again Sun is parmoccha in Aries 10degrees.

Vargottama always takes precedent over other avasthas of a planet.If you have

read, a planet in neecha in natal chart gives results of uccha if he is in

uccha in Navamsha.

About results of Sun Mahadasha, for your lagna Sun is lord of 3rd hence not very

auspicious.Your lord of 9th saturn is in 12th house aspecting natal Sun, this

adds to the problems.You should start getting relief after Saturn moves to

Gemini. This migh be a period of too many worries about one's standing in

public.Things will start picking up really well when your Rahu antar starts.

Do not feel awkward about seeking m opinion.Most of the Gemini ascendant persons

are facing problems for last 7 years or so. Therefore I never feel burdened by

their queries as they are really might be in trouble.Jyotish is for helping

people.

Chandrashekhar. - astrolover1959 To:

vedic astrology Friday, March 07, 2003 11:02 AM Subject:

[vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Respected Chandershekhar ji: There is considerable confusion on whether a planet

in infancy (0 to 5 degrees in rashi) overrides its infancy if it is vargottama

in navamsa. generally it is said that infant planet is very week and is not

capable of expressing itself fully during its period. But on the other hand if

such a planet is vargottama, and is otherwise well placed (i.e., not

debilitated or functional melefic), it gains additional strength by virtue of

its being in vargottama. If that is the case, then can such a planet's

significations manifest during that planet's dasa despite its weekness on

account of extreme infancy. Also, what about the effect of rashi sandhi in such

a case?

In my chart (gemini lagna), I have sun at zero degree (vargottama in navamsa) in

second house in cancer with Mercury. Venus and Mars in Leo in the third, Rahu in

Virgo in the 4th, Jupiter in Libra in 5th, moon (2nd house dispositor) is

debilitated in scorpio in 6th, saturn in Sagi in 7th, and ketu in pisces in

10th house. The reason why I'm anxious about my vargottama sun is that my sun's

mahadasa has just started in end Dec 2002. And although I was going thru a lot

of turmoil in last phase of Venus dasa (ketu antara), yet I was expecting

things to improve with the onset of Sun's mahadasa. But so far things are

getting only worse. I am just wondering what my sun's mahadasa has in store for

me overall, partcularly from the career standpoint.

I know it is very selfish soliciting this kind of direct personal favour, but I

hope you and other learned gurus will pardon this misdemeanour on my part,

keeping my current state of mind.

thanks and regards, Ajit

Sponsor

March 10, 2003

Rangarajan/Chandrashekhar,

If I may add my two cents worth of thoughts - being a Gemini ascendant I had

direct experience of the results, especially as I also have saturn maha dasa in

progress.

- Migration

When saturn was in pisces, we moved countries (19th Aug 1996). Dasa (using

365.2425 days per year) was Sat/Mercury/Rahu/Mercury/Jupiter. Saturn aspects

the 4th, mercury is in the 4th with rahu. Dasa (using 360 thithis) was

Sat/Ketu/moon/mercury, again both sat and ketu in pisces and mercury and moon

in 4th in virgo. Even if I take the lagna as starting point for the dasa and

365.2425 days per year (as suggested when lagna is very strong), I get

Ketu/Moon/Mercury/Mercury/Saturn - all either in 4th or 10th in transit.

In the natal chart saturn is in the 4th house, vargottama, retrograde and

aspecting ascendant ruler mercury in the 1st. There were also health issues

during this time, after a very long period of good health.

This move was unexpected, but not too bad. However, it was very disruptive for

my career as I had to resign and then do contract work in the UK where we

moved.

- Serious health problems and danger to life

When saturn was in transit in Aries, in the 11th (18th September 1999), I had

serious health problems with sudden operations in the bowel area. In the natal

chart saturn aspects the ascendant and 1st ruler from virgo, sign of bowels.

Saturn rules the 8th and 9th.

If I take lagna as starting point for dasa, ketu/saturn/venus/mars/saturn was in

progress. saturn was in aries, ketu in capricorn (8th), venus in 2nd and mars in

6th. Taking moon as starting point dasa was (365.2425 days per year)

sat/venus/mars/jupiter/mars. The same planets again, except for jupiter which

was conjunct saturn in transit.

Interestingly, in the natal chart, mars and jupiter are in the 12th and venus rules the 12th.

At the same time this happened, my husband's company had problems and had to

interrupt salary payments. On the other hand I had continuous work that I could

perform from home. Typical of the combined effects of jupiter and saturn in the

11th?

- Interruption to career

When saturn moved to the ascendant I stopped working for a while and have been

involved in some studies and house renovations instead. My sister's son also

came to live with us (saturn's aspect on the 3rd?) and I have now had the

experience of semi-parenting a teenager! Perhaps the responsibility aspect of

saturn on the ascendant and 1st lord mercury. The aspect on the 10th could

explain interruptions to work. When saturn went in retrograde back into taurus,

we went back to Australia for a long holiday to see my mother, family and

friends. It was a quiet time but there were expenses that reduced the bank

balance - as you would expect with the aspect on the 2nd house. There is the

same aspect on my husband's 2nd house as he is a libra ascendant! This should

change as saturn moves into Gemini. But jupiter in the 2nd has kept the bank

balance OK, esp as it aspects my husband's 2nd house as well.

We bought a rental property (saturn in 12th aspecting 11th from 4th?) as well

during this time. Now we have to go back to work quickly to pay it off! At the

moment it is not rented yet.

I also have a mysterious and sudden rash on my hand and also a lump on a finger

on the same hand from a ganglion. Rahu aspecting gemini and natal mercury? The

ganglion started when saturn moved into gemini. The rash while saturn was in

the 12th with rahu.

Jupiter in the 2nd aspects the 10th, so I suspect work is probably on the cards

quite soon. This is the 10th house for my husband and he is running jup dasa.

He will probably start after saturn moves into gemini and no longer aspects the

10th (he resigned soon after saturn retrograded to taurus and aspected the

10th).

- Future - saturn in cancer

Well, I expect saturn in the 2nd to constrain the bank balance and also income

by its aspect on the 11th. It may also create another move as it aspects the

4th house. Rahu will be in the 10th aspecting the 4th, so a move is pretty

definite, probably overseas. May be work related. Our move in 1996 was work

related - my husband's work so 4th house for me. Aspect on the 8th - not a good

thought as this will be during saturn/rahu. The only good thing is that jupiter

will also be in the 4th. It is a time to watch out for mother's health etc.

Jupiter in the 4th aspects the 12th. So again the theme of overseas travel.

Best regards,

Nimmi

-

rangarajan

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:56 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear chandrasekhar: Thanks for your reply. my understanding (it may be flawed)

of the four major grahas, which could have long term impact, (jupiter, saturn,

raghu and ketu) jupiter, saturn and raghu hovered around 12th, ist and second

house for the last 3-4 years. it is only after this july when jupiter moves

away from cancer and followed by raghu moving towards aries, geminians could

expect some changes. of course it will be still more better, if saturn also

moves away from gemini. till then an indiviudals favourable dasa/bhukti could

devier some of the better times.with regardsrangarajan At 01:03 AM 3/11/03

+0530, you wrote:

Dear Rangarajan,For Gemini ascendant Saturn is lord of 8th&9th and Jupiter lord

of 7th and 10th.The problems started around the time when Jupiter entered

Capricorn and Saturn was in Pisces.You will find that post his coming to pisces

Saturn was atichari and sat Jup crossed three Rasis almost together. Currently

the Saturn is retro in 12th with rahu.I think my logic would be

clear.Chandrashekhar.

- rangarajan To:

vedic astrology Monday, March 10, 2003 5:34 AM Subject:

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

dear chandrasekhar: if possible could you clarify further your statement that

"Most of the gemini ascendant persons are facing problems for last 7 years or

so". is it because of the raghu being in and around gemini and combining with

saturn also being present in and around gemini. i hope you can elaborate at

your convenience. with regards rangarajan

At 03:33 PM 3/8/03 +0530, you wrote:

Dear Ajit, You are rightly confused by all the talk about avastha of grahas and

their ability to give rise to yogas and such otherthings that are discusse on

the list. My advice is never to take any statement in isolation.When avasthas

of Grahas are to be seen then there are two opinions , one is that all planets

are inefective when at 6 degrees and so on; and other who reverse the avasthas

for even and odd rasis.Had that not been the case how would be Moon be in

3degrees taurus and be called parmoccha?Again Sun is parmoccha in Aries

10degrees. Vargottama always takes precedent over other avasthas of a planet.If

you have read, a planet in neecha in natal chart gives results of uccha if he is

in uccha in Navamsha. About results of Sun Mahadasha, for your lagna Sun is lord

of 3rd hence not very auspicious.Your lord of 9th saturn is in 12th house

aspecting natal Sun, this adds to the problems.You should start getting relief

after Saturn moves to Gemini. This migh be a period of too many worries about

one's standing in public.Things will start picking up really well when your

Rahu antar starts. Do not feel awkward about seeking m opinion.Most of the

Gemini ascendant persons are facing problems for last 7 years or so. Therefore

I never feel burdened by their queries as they are really might be in

trouble.Jyotish is for helping people. Chandrashekhar. ----- Original Message

----- astrolover1959 vedic astrology Friday,

March 07, 2003 11:02 AM [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi