Guest guest Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 I have heard of Rasi Gandanta and Lagna Gandanta i.e Moon or Lagna in the last Nak. Q-first Nak. Q of Pisces-Aries, Cancer-Leo or Scorpio- Sag cusp. What are the effects if other planets are in Gandanta, esp. if they also happen to be AK? Thank you, Sundeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Dear Sandeep, Planets in gandanta are very powerless and become unable to give their normal results. It's also said that they spoil the effects of the house(s) they lord. Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli - "vedicastrostudent" <vedicastrostudent <vedic astrology> Friday, March 07, 2003 1:37 PM [vedic astrology] Gandanta question > I have heard of Rasi Gandanta and Lagna Gandanta i.e Moon or Lagna in > the last Nak. Q-first Nak. Q of Pisces-Aries, Cancer-Leo or Scorpio- > Sag cusp. What are the effects if other planets are in Gandanta, esp. > if they also happen to be AK? > > Thank you, > > Sundeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Jaya JagannathDear Ramapriya, If that had been the case, then Lord Rama wouldnot be known as someone who has establised dharma. In the horoscope of Sri Rama, Sun is placed in Gandanta with AL. Now what are the things for which Lord Rama suffered, his kingdom and his father (Natural Karakatva) and also his family life was completely ruined. So the latter part of the sentence is correct as Sun in this case lords the 2nd house. So it shows the natural karakakatva will suffer, the house owned will suffer, however the planet will give the results of its placement based on other strengths. Now Sandeep apply these rules to whatever you have asked, you will get the answer. Best RegardsSarajit - "Ramapriya D" <hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> <vedic astrology> Friday, March 07, 2003 5:01 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question > Dear Sandeep,> > Planets in gandanta are very powerless and become unable to give their> normal results. It's also said that they spoil the effects of the house(s)> they lord.> > Warm regards,> > Ramapriya> hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> > > ----- Original Message -----> "vedicastrostudent" <vedicastrostudent >> <vedic astrology>> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 1:37 PM> [vedic astrology] Gandanta question> > > > I have heard of Rasi Gandanta and Lagna Gandanta i.e Moon or Lagna in> > the last Nak. Q-first Nak. Q of Pisces-Aries, Cancer-Leo or Scorpio-> > Sag cusp. What are the effects if other planets are in Gandanta, esp.> > if they also happen to be AK?> >> > Thank you,> >> > Sundeep> > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Dear Sarajit, Wasn't Su in deep exaltation, i.e. at 10 degrees Ar in Rama's chart? That said, I do remember PVR's valid point about the impossibility of both the birth tithi being navami and Mo being in P'vasu -- and he'd considered Sun at almost 0 deg Ar. But I think there must be some exception for Ve, Su and Ju in gandantas because their exaltation houses are there too. I know I'm charting completely dark waters here, but I think Su gave results for Rama because of the lajjitavastha exception. I refer Slokas 5 to 10 of Chap 47 of BPHS. Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com - Sarajit Poddar vedic astrology Friday, March 07, 2003 6:41 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question Jaya JagannathDear Ramapriya, If that had been the case, then Lord Rama wouldnot be known as someone who has establised dharma. In the horoscope of Sri Rama, Sun is placed in Gandanta with AL. Now what are the things for which Lord Rama suffered, his kingdom and his father (Natural Karakatva) and also his family life was completely ruined. So the latter part of the sentence is correct as Sun in this case lords the 2nd house. So it shows the natural karakakatva will suffer, the house owned will suffer, however the planet will give the results of its placement based on other strengths. Now Sandeep apply these rules to whatever you have asked, you will get the answer. Best RegardsSarajit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Hare Rama Krsna Dear Ramapriya, I like your style. In the Gandanta portion of Aries 7, Shastyamsas occur: Ghora, Rakshasa, Deva, Kubera, Raksho Gana, Kinnara and Bhrast. Among these Devaamsa is more likely as Sun is in the Arudha Lagna, and would influence his name in this world. Infact the word Rama is associated with God, hence Sun must be in Devaamsa. Now this teaches us that even Gods can suffer hardship, and indeed Sri Rama's story was is known to all as an act of struggle. Hence; Sun In Gandanta (struggle), in Arudha Lagna (name/fame) and exalted (known as a king) whilst in devaamsa (God among kings), accounts for everything we remember about Sri Rama. Om Sri Rama Rama Rama Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Ramapriya D vedic astrology Friday, March 07, 2003 3:07 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question Dear Sarajit, Wasn't Su in deep exaltation, i.e. at 10 degrees Ar in Rama's chart? That said, I do remember PVR's valid point about the impossibility of both the birth tithi being navami and Mo being in P'vasu -- and he'd considered Sun at almost 0 deg Ar. But I think there must be some exception for Ve, Su and Ju in gandantas because their exaltation houses are there too. I know I'm charting completely dark waters here, but I think Su gave results for Rama because of the lajjitavastha exception. I refer Slokas 5 to 10 of Chap 47 of BPHS. Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com - Sarajit Poddar vedic astrology Friday, March 07, 2003 6:41 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question Jaya JagannathDear Ramapriya, If that had been the case, then Lord Rama wouldnot be known as someone who has establised dharma. In the horoscope of Sri Rama, Sun is placed in Gandanta with AL. Now what are the things for which Lord Rama suffered, his kingdom and his father (Natural Karakatva) and also his family life was completely ruined. So the latter part of the sentence is correct as Sun in this case lords the 2nd house. So it shows the natural karakakatva will suffer, the house owned will suffer, however the planet will give the results of its placement based on other strengths. Now Sandeep apply these rules to whatever you have asked, you will get the answer. Best RegardsSarajitArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Dear Saraijit, If I may intervene, Rama is said to have followed Dharma and not to have established Dharma.Hindu Dharma was in existence before Rama. Correct me if I am wrong. Chandrashekhar. - Sarajit Poddar vedic astrology Friday, March 07, 2003 6:41 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question Jaya JagannathDear Ramapriya, If that had been the case, then Lord Rama wouldnot be known as someone who has establised dharma. In the horoscope of Sri Rama, Sun is placed in Gandanta with AL. Now what are the things for which Lord Rama suffered, his kingdom and his father (Natural Karakatva) and also his family life was completely ruined. So the latter part of the sentence is correct as Sun in this case lords the 2nd house. So it shows the natural karakakatva will suffer, the house owned will suffer, however the planet will give the results of its placement based on other strengths. Now Sandeep apply these rules to whatever you have asked, you will get the answer. Best RegardsSarajit - "Ramapriya D" <hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> <vedic astrology> Friday, March 07, 2003 5:01 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question > Dear Sandeep,> > Planets in gandanta are very powerless and become unable to give their> normal results. It's also said that they spoil the effects of the house(s)> they lord.> > Warm regards,> > Ramapriya> hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> > > ----- Original Message -----> "vedicastrostudent" <vedicastrostudent >> <vedic astrology>> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 1:37 PM> [vedic astrology] Gandanta question> > > > I have heard of Rasi Gandanta and Lagna Gandanta i.e Moon or Lagna in> > the last Nak. Q-first Nak. Q of Pisces-Aries, Cancer-Leo or Scorpio-> > Sag cusp. What are the effects if other planets are in Gandanta, esp.> > if they also happen to be AK?> >> > Thank you,> >> > Sundeep> > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Dear Sir, If I remember correctly,Gurudev Sanjay Rath Ji has said that Lord Rama established the Dharma of one wife. With regards, Jagmeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Dear Chandrashekhar, At 01:38 AM 3/8/03 +0530, you wrote: Dear Saraijit, If I may intervene, Rama is said to have followed Dharma and not to have established Dharma.Hindu Dharma was in existence before Rama. Correct me if I am wrong. Chandrashekhar. Sir, *nothing* was in existence prior to Lord Sri Rama. Note key verses to this effect in the Bhagavad-gita, what then to speak of all Vedic literatures (Bg 10.8) Further, the Bhagavad-gita states: "Dharma samstaapanarthaaya", i.e. "I (Krsna, Who is non different from Rama), appeared for the re-establishment of religious principles (dharma)." (Bg, 4.8) Even if you considered Lord Sri Rama to not be of Vishnu-tattva, you should consider the following nevertheless: "Dharmasya tattvam nihitam guhayam", i.e. the true tenets of Dharma are concealed only within the heart of a great soul. Regards, Robert ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer Faculty Member, SJC and ACVA visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> and, http://www.jyotishdiscovery.com or Ph: 541.318.0248 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 Dear Ramapriya and Sarajit Dharma is eternal. Yet on earth it can be apparently diminished or broken. Lord Rama came to "Re-establish" dharma as one of many reasons of His incarnation of his pastimes on earth. Lord Krishna also came to re-establish dharma as one of the many of His external and internal reasons for descending. The Lord or His representative descend when this is neccessary. Best wishes Kasim >"Chandrashekhar" >vedic astrology > >Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question >Sat, 8 Mar 2003 01:38:01 +0530 > >Dear Saraijit, >If I may intervene, Rama is said to have followed Dharma and not to have established Dharma.Hindu Dharma was in existence before Rama. >Correct me if I am wrong. >Chandrashekhar. > ----- Original Message ----- > Sarajit Poddar > To: vedic astrology > Friday, March 07, 2003 6:41 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question > > > Jaya Jagannath > Dear Ramapriya, > > If that had been the case, then Lord Rama wouldnot be known as someone who has establised dharma. In the horoscope of Sri Rama, Sun is placed in Gandanta with AL. Now what are the things for which Lord Rama suffered, his kingdom and his father (Natural Karakatva) and also his family life was completely ruined. So the latter part of the sentence is correct as Sun in this case lords the 2nd house. > > So it shows the natural karakakatva will suffer, the house owned will suffer, however the planet will give the results of its placement based on other strengths. Now Sandeep apply these rules to whatever you have asked, you will get the answer. > > Best Regards > Sarajit > > > > > - > "Ramapriya D" > > Friday, March 07, 2003 5:01 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question > > > > Dear Sandeep, > > > > Planets in gandanta are very powerless and become unable to give their > > normal results. It's also said that they spoil the effects of the house(s) > > they lord. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Ramapriya > > hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com > > > > > > - > > "vedicastrostudent" > > > > Friday, March 07, 2003 1:37 PM > > [vedic astrology] Gandanta question > > > > > > > I have heard of Rasi Gandanta and Lagna Gandanta i.e Moon or Lagna in > > > the last Nak. Q-first Nak. Q of Pisces-Aries, Cancer-Leo or Scorpio- > > > Sag cusp. What are the effects if other planets are in Gandanta, esp. > > > if they also happen to be AK? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Terms of Service. Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 Dear Jagmeet, I think most of the Gods of Indian scriptures were having one wife only since much before Shri rama was born.Therefore to say Rama established the Dharma of one wife is to strech things too far. Laxman also had one wife, and for that matter so did Ravana. Chandrashekhar. Chandrashekhar. - jagmeet dheendsa vedic astrology Cc: vedic astrology Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:06 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question Dear Sir,If I remember correctly,Gurudev Sanjay Rath Ji has said that Lord Ramaestablished the Dharma of one wife.With regards,JagmeetArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 Jaya Jagannath Dear Kasim, There is no doubt it, Lord Krsna says that all in Bhagavat Gita. Probably I shoould have rephrased it....lol :-). Anyway lord Rama is known as Dharma Avatar and thats my point about the Sun's placement in AL. Best Wishes Sarajit - Kasim Choudhary vedic astrology Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:35 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question Dear Ramapriya and Sarajit Dharma is eternal. Yet on earth it can be apparently diminished or broken. Lord Rama came to "Re-establish" dharma as one of many reasons of His incarnation of his pastimes on earth. Lord Krishna also came to re-establish dharma as one of the many of His external and internal reasons for descending. The Lord or His representative descend when this is neccessary. Best wishes Kasim >"Chandrashekhar" >vedic astrology > >Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question >Sat, 8 Mar 2003 01:38:01 +0530 > >Dear Saraijit, >If I may intervene, Rama is said to have followed Dharma and not to have established Dharma.Hindu Dharma was in existence before Rama. >Correct me if I am wrong. >Chandrashekhar. > ----- Original Message ----- > Sarajit Poddar > To: vedic astrology > Friday, March 07, 2003 6:41 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question > > > Jaya Jagannath > Dear Ramapriya, > > If that had been the case, then Lord Rama wouldnot be known as someone who has establised dharma. In the horoscope of Sri Rama, Sun is placed in Gandanta with AL. Now what are the things for which Lord Rama suffered, his kingdom and his father (Natural Karakatva) and also his family life was completely ruined. So the latter part of the sentence is correct as Sun in this case lords the 2nd house. > > So it shows the natural karakakatva will suffer, the house owned will suffer, however the planet will give the results of its placement based on other strengths. Now Sandeep apply these rules to whatever you have asked, you will get the answer. > > Best Regards > Sarajit > > > > > - > "Ramapriya D" > > Friday, March 07, 2003 5:01 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question > > > > Dear Sandeep, > > > > Planets in gandanta are very powerless and become unable to give their > > normal results. It's also said that they spoil the effects of the house(s) > > they lord. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Ramapriya > > hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com > > > > > > - > > "vedicastrostudent" > > > > Friday, March 07, 2003 1:37 PM > > [vedic astrology] Gandanta question > > > > > > > I have heard of Rasi Gandanta and Lagna Gandanta i.e Moon or Lagna in > > > the last Nak. Q-first Nak. Q of Pisces-Aries, Cancer-Leo or Scorpio- > > > Sag cusp. What are the effects if other planets are in Gandanta, esp. > > > if they also happen to be AK? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Terms of Service. Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 hamsa om soham Dear Chandrashekar, Jagmeet wrote "Lord Rama established the Dharma of one wife". Perhaps we could rephrase this as "Sita established the concept of dharma-patni". Looking at the trials and tribulations she went through, it is difficult to disagree. Rama went to the ends of the world for his dharma-companion. Thus, Rama and Sita together established dharma...particularly as it applies to married life. ajit - Chandrashekhar vedic astrology Saturday, March 08, 2003 3:38 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question Dear Jagmeet, I think most of the Gods of Indian scriptures were having one wife only since much before Shri rama was born.Therefore to say Rama established the Dharma of one wife is to strech things too far. Laxman also had one wife, and for that matter so did Ravana. Chandrashekhar. Chandrashekhar. - jagmeet dheendsa vedic astrology Cc: vedic astrology Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:06 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question Dear Sir,If I remember correctly,Gurudev Sanjay Rath Ji has said that Lord Ramaestablished the Dharma of one wife.With regards,JagmeetArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Chandrasekar & others, Gandantha question has been stretched to far to the extent of Sri Rama. As regards the birth of Sri Rama let us see what SriValmiki has to say: ASTADASA SARGA:- SRIRAMAATHYAVATHARAH:- 8. "THATHO YAGNE SAMAPTHE THU RUTHUNAAM SHAT SAMATHYAYUHU THATHASCHA DWADHASE MAASE CHAITRE NAAVAMIKE THITHOW:" 9. "NAKSHATRE ADITI DAIWATHYE SVOOCHASAMASTHESHU PANCHASU GRIHESHU KARKATE LAGNE VAAKHPATHAVINDHUNA SAHA" Dwadhase maase Chaitre - means/indicates Sun was in Pisces and not in Aries Swa kshetra =Moon + Oocha kshetra = Guru,Sani,Mars,Sukra = 5 (Narasimha & other sanskrit scholars can help) As per this we understand that there should be a shift in the focus - Sun is Atmakaraka and not Dara karaka. Sun as Atmakaraka placed in 9th (also 8th to 2nd and 12th to AL) has a few lessons to say/teach(us). Navamsa is also termed as Dharmamsa. Wife is also called as Dharmapatni. It is said King Dasaratha married 60000 times to save himself from the Axe of Parasurama(Axe effect!) Dharma of a king is to protect. Protection is a selfless act. Using polygamy as a kavacha/shield to protect himself is not dharma. SriRama could have easily followed the footsteps of his father. He followed the footsteps of his Guru(9th Lord). Lakshmana followed his brother. The same thing cannot be said of King Ravana. Sun represents Dharma. As per Parashar it is from the Sun the incarnation of SriRama occurred. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. >"Chandrashekhar" >vedic astrology > >Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question >Sat, 8 Mar 2003 16:08:04 +0530 > >Dear Jagmeet, >I think most of the Gods of Indian scriptures were having one wife only since much before Shri rama was born.Therefore to say Rama established the Dharma of one wife is to strech things too far. Laxman also had one wife, and for that matter so did Ravana. >Chandrashekhar. >Chandrashekhar. > - > jagmeet dheendsa > To: vedic astrology > Cc: vedic astrology > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:06 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question > > > Dear Sir, > If I remember correctly,Gurudev Sanjay Rath Ji has said that Lord Rama > established the Dharma of one wife. > With regards, > Jagmeet > > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Cricket http://server1.msn.co.in/msnspecials/worldcup03/ News, Views and Match Reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 Dear P.S.Ramanarayanan, Sometimes on the list the original intent of the thread is lost. I was just pointing out that establishing Dharma is different form following or protecting Dharma. Chandrashekhar. - P.S. RAMANARAYANAN vedic astrology Saturday, March 08, 2003 10:15 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Chandrasekar & others, Gandantha question has been stretched to far to the extent of Sri Rama. As regards the birth of Sri Rama let us see what SriValmiki has to say: ASTADASA SARGA:- SRIRAMAATHYAVATHARAH:- 8. "THATHO YAGNE SAMAPTHE THU RUTHUNAAM SHAT SAMATHYAYUHU THATHASCHA DWADHASE MAASE CHAITRE NAAVAMIKE THITHOW:" 9. "NAKSHATRE ADITI DAIWATHYE SVOOCHASAMASTHESHU PANCHASU GRIHESHU KARKATE LAGNE VAAKHPATHAVINDHUNA SAHA" Dwadhase maase Chaitre - means/indicates Sun was in Pisces and not in Aries Swa kshetra =Moon + Oocha kshetra = Guru,Sani,Mars,Sukra = 5 (Narasimha & other sanskrit scholars can help) As per this we understand that there should be a shift in the focus - Sun is Atmakaraka and not Dara karaka. Sun as Atmakaraka placed in 9th (also 8th to 2nd and 12th to AL) has a few lessons to say/teach(us). Navamsa is also termed as Dharmamsa. Wife is also called as Dharmapatni. It is said King Dasaratha married 60000 times to save himself from the Axe of Parasurama(Axe effect!) Dharma of a king is to protect. Protection is a selfless act. Using polygamy as a kavacha/shield to protect himself is not dharma. SriRama could have easily followed the footsteps of his father. He followed the footsteps of his Guru(9th Lord). Lakshmana followed his brother. The same thing cannot be said of King Ravana. Sun represents Dharma. As per Parashar it is from the Sun the incarnation of SriRama occurred. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. >"Chandrashekhar" >vedic astrology > >Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question >Sat, 8 Mar 2003 16:08:04 +0530 > >Dear Jagmeet, >I think most of the Gods of Indian scriptures were having one wife only since much before Shri rama was born.Therefore to say Rama established the Dharma of one wife is to strech things too far. Laxman also had one wife, and for that matter so did Ravana. >Chandrashekhar. >Chandrashekhar. > - > jagmeet dheendsa > To: vedic astrology > Cc: vedic astrology > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:06 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question > > > Dear Sir, > If I remember correctly,Gurudev Sanjay Rath Ji has said that Lord Rama > established the Dharma of one wife. > With regards, > Jagmeet > > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Cricket http://server1.msn.co.in/msnspecials/worldcup03/ News, Views and Match Reports. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 Dear Robert, The lord says in the 4th adhyaya shhloka 4 "yadaa yadaa hi dharmasya glaanirbhavati bharat | abhutthaanmadharmasya tadaatmanam srujamyaham || Nowhere he says that dharma gets extinguished and he reestablishes it. He says whenever when Dharma looses its lustre and is not being followed and Adharma become dominant I come to the Prithvi(Srujanam). In the next shloka he says he reestablishes Dharma. I know that Rama was Vishnu incarnate, but I was only trying to point out that he didnot establish Dharma.Dharma is as sanatan as the Lord himself and at least to my knowledge Hindu dharma (at least) was not established by any living being ,per scriputres. Chandrashekhar. - Robert A. Koch vedic astrology Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:04 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Gandanta question Dear Chandrashekhar, At 01:38 AM 3/8/03 +0530, you wrote: Dear Saraijit,If I may intervene, Rama is said to have followed Dharma and not to have established Dharma.Hindu Dharma was in existence before Rama.Correct me if I am wrong.Chandrashekhar.Sir, *nothing* was in existence prior to Lord Sri Rama. Note key verses to this effect in the Bhagavad-gita, what then to speak of all Vedic literatures (Bg 10.8) Further, the Bhagavad-gita states: "Dharma samstaapanarthaaya", i.e. "I (Krsna, Who is non different from Rama), appeared for the re-establishment of religious principles (dharma)." (Bg, 4.8)Even if you considered Lord Sri Rama to not be of Vishnu-tattva, you should consider the following nevertheless: "Dharmasya tattvam nihitam guhayam", i.e. the true tenets of Dharma are concealed only within the heart of a great soul. Regards,Robert ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer Faculty Member, SJC and ACVA visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> and, http://www.jyotishdiscovery.com or Ph: 541.318.0248Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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