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Dear all,

 

I have few questions below:

 

1.How does Saturn fare if he becomes Atmakaraka. I have Saturn as

atmakaraka present in pisces navamsa with Rahu conjoining him.

 

2.I have Jupiter and Sun in aquarius navamsa (12th from karakamsa).

Since 12th is for realisation of moksha, what are the effects of

Jupiter/Sun in 12th from karakamsa?

 

 

thanks

K.Srinivasan

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JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Srinivasan,

 

Namaste.

 

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Friday, March 07, 2003 9:12 AM

[vedic astrology] Questions on Atmakaraka and Karakamsa

 

 

> Dear all,

>

> I have few questions below:

>

> 1.How does Saturn fare if he becomes Atmakaraka. I have Saturn as

> atmakaraka present in pisces navamsa with Rahu conjoining him.

 

I have written a whole article on AK. It is to appear in the March issue of

JD. An excerpt from it:

 

Saturn: Accepts a lot of suffering and is resistant to it, he is not

dependent on the amount of happiness/distress he achieves. He should learn

how to avoid giving sorrow to others, empathize and share their sorrows and

help them.

Examples: Cardinal Richelieu, Aliester Crowley.

 

Saturn as AK in Pisces is strong spiritually because he is a malefic, and

Pisces is the sign of Moksha. However Rahu may give an obstruction.

 

> 2.I have Jupiter and Sun in aquarius navamsa (12th from karakamsa).

> Since 12th is for realisation of moksha, what are the effects of

> Jupiter/Sun in 12th from karakamsa?

 

No-no. Karakamsha means the Atmakaraka's position in Navamsha, not in Rasi.

The above statement by you holds true only if AK is vargottama in your

chart, i.e. Saturn is in Pisces both in Rasi and Navamsa. Jupiuter and the

Sun combined will indicate Lord Vishnu and Rama. Especially the form of Lord

Caitanya having six arms (Sadbhuja Mahaprabhu) is suitable for worship if

your KA is actually Pisces.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

gauranga

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Dear Gauranga,

 

I am just a novice around here, but i have a few things to add.

 

The dasa of the AK would be a cleansing phase in a native's life, more so if the

AK happens to be a malefic. This is true in case of Saturn being the AK. As you

rightly mentioned that PI is a sign of moksha would help in spirituality, but at

the same time if lagnamsa and Karakamsa are in 6-8 then i would think that the

native will always be pulled in two opposite directions.

 

I hope to be corrected

 

Thanks and Best Regards

 

Narahari.

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Saturday, March 08, 2003 12:50 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Questions on Atmakaraka and Karakamsa

JAYA JAGANNATHA!Dear Srinivasan,Namaste.-

"K.Srinivasan" <ka_shrinivaasan >To:

<vedic astrology>Friday, March 07, 2003 9:12 AMSubject:

[vedic astrology] Questions on Atmakaraka and Karakamsa> Dear all,>> I have few

questions below:>> 1.How does Saturn fare if he becomes Atmakaraka. I have

Saturn as> atmakaraka present in pisces navamsa with Rahu conjoining him.I have

written a whole article on AK. It is to appear in the March issue ofJD. An

excerpt from it:Saturn: Accepts a lot of suffering and is resistant to it, he

is notdependent on the amount of happiness/distress he achieves. He should

learnhow to avoid giving sorrow to others, empathize and share their sorrows

andhelp them.Examples: Cardinal Richelieu, Aliester Crowley.Saturn as AK in

Pisces is strong spiritually because he is a malefic, andPisces is the sign of

Moksha. However Rahu may give an obstruction.> 2.I have Jupiter and Sun in

aquarius navamsa (12th from karakamsa).> Since 12th is for realisation of

moksha, what are the effects of> Jupiter/Sun in 12th from karakamsa?No-no.

Karakamsha means the Atmakaraka's position in Navamsha, not in Rasi.The above

statement by you holds true only if AK is vargottama in yourchart, i.e. Saturn

is in Pisces both in Rasi and Navamsa. Jupiuter and theSun combined will

indicate Lord Vishnu and Rama. Especially the form of LordCaitanya having six

arms (Sadbhuja Mahaprabhu) is suitable for worship ifyour KA is actually

Pisces.Yours,Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net

Jyotish Remedies:WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839Archives:

vedic astrologyGroup info:

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mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light

shine on us .......

 

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Namaste,

Excellent delineation on Atma Karaka, which I donot find anywhere else except

SJVC's forum. I have Chara Atma Karaka "Rahu" and in navamsha occupied in

Capricorn in second house. So Sagitarrius(also D-9 lagna) lord i.e. Jupiter

arise as my Ishta Devta. In the currently going on Jupiter antara dasa, there

is many ununal experiences with me, like many true dreams, increased intuation

and recognition. Though at present more or less all the mega-grahas are

transiting in extremely bad position with respect to natal moon, but there is

peace of mind and indepth inner confidence and success in higher studies. I

still could not find the answer, how a functional malefic's antar prove so

beneficial.

Is this due to lord of Ishta devata or any thing else reducing the effect of

malefic gochar and functional maleficent of antar dasanath Jupiter?

Regards

Imran

Gauranga Das <gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net> wrote:

JAYA JAGANNATHA!Dear Srinivasan,Namaste.-

"K.Srinivasan" <ka_shrinivaasan >To:

<vedic astrology>Friday, March 07, 2003 9:12 AMSubject:

[vedic astrology] Questions on Atmakaraka and Karakamsa> Dear all,>> I have few

questions below:>> 1.How does Saturn fare if he becomes Atmakaraka. I have

Saturn as> atmakaraka present in pisces navamsa with Rahu conjoining him.I have

written a whole article on AK. It is to appear in the March issue ofJD. An

excerpt from it:Saturn: Accepts a lot of suffering and is resistant to it, he

is notdependent on the amount of happiness/distress he achieves. He should

learnhow to avoid giving sorrow to others, empathize and share their sorrows

andhelp them.Examples: Cardinal Richelieu, Aliester Crowley.Saturn as AK in

Pisces is strong spiritually because he is a malefic, andPisces is the sign of

Moksha. However Rahu may give an obstruction.> 2.I have Jupiter and Sun in

aquarius navamsa (12th from karakamsa).> Since 12th is for realisation of

moksha, what are the effects of> Jupiter/Sun in 12th from karakamsa?No-no.

Karakamsha means the Atmakaraka's position in Navamsha, not in Rasi.The above

statement by you holds true only if AK is vargottama in yourchart, i.e. Saturn

is in Pisces both in Rasi and Navamsa. Jupiuter and theSun combined will

indicate Lord Vishnu and Rama. Especially the form of LordCaitanya having six

arms (Sadbhuja Mahaprabhu) is suitable for worship ifyour KA is actually

Pisces.Yours,Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net

Jyotish Remedies:WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839Archives:

vedic astrologyGroup info:

vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank

mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light

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Dear Imran,

Could be wrong but I guess Narayana, or his Islamic equivalent, is your

ishtadevata, unless some planet occupies Aq in D-9. Since Ra moves the other

way, the twelfth from it should also be reckoned likewise, I think.

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

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Muhammad Imran

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 7:27 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Questions on Atmakaraka and Karakamsa

Respected Gauranga Das Namaste, Excellent delineation on Atma Karaka, which I

donot find anywhere else except SJVC's forum. I have Chara Atma Karaka "Rahu"

and in navamsha occupied in Capricorn in second house. So Sagitarrius(also D-9

lagna) lord i.e. Jupiter arise as my Ishta Devta. In the currently going on

Jupiter antara dasa, there is many ununal experiences with me, like many true

dreams, increased intuation and recognition. Though at present more or less all

the mega-grahas are transiting in extremely bad position with respect to natal

moon, but there is peace of mind and indepth inner confidence and success in

higher studies. I still could not find the answer, how a functional malefic's

antar prove so beneficial. Is this due to lord of Ishta devata or any thing

else reducing the effect of malefic gochar and functional maleficent of antar

dasanath Jupiter? Regards Imran

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Yes, off course! may be it falls in Aquarius due to backward motion of Rahu. But

I also told that may be due to anyother reasons. How can matters and event in

current Jupiter antar is defined. Both in Rashi and Navamsha my Jupiter is in

dushatana bhava and functional malefic as well. Instead he is bestowing

benevolence in presence of bad transit.

Regards

Imran

Ramapriya D <hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Imran,

Could be wrong but I guess Narayana, or his Islamic equivalent, is your

ishtadevata, unless some planet occupies Aq in D-9. Since Ra moves the other

way, the twelfth from it should also be reckoned likewise, I think.

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

-

Muhammad Imran

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 7:27 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Questions on Atmakaraka and Karakamsa

Respected Gauranga Das Namaste, Excellent delineation on Atma Karaka, which I

donot find anywhere else except SJVC's forum. I have Chara Atma Karaka "Rahu"

and in navamsha occupied in Capricorn in second house. So Sagitarrius(also D-9

lagna) lord i.e. Jupiter arise as my Ishta Devta. In the currently going on

Jupiter antara dasa, there is many ununal experiences with me, like many true

dreams, increased intuation and recognition. Though at present more or less all

the mega-grahas are transiting in extremely bad position with respect to natal

moon, but there is peace of mind and indepth inner confidence and success in

higher studies. I still could not find the answer, how a functional malefic's

antar prove so beneficial. Is this due to lord of Ishta devata or any thing

else reducing the effect of malefic gochar and functional maleficent of antar

dasanath Jupiter? Regards ImranArchives:

vedic astrologyGroup info:

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Salaam Imran Bhai,

 

The 12th from Rahu should be reckoned as usual. Unless there is any

planet in Sg in navamsa, Jupiter shows ishta devata. Jupiter can

show Vamana and many other deities, but he finally shows nirguNa

parabrahman (formless superconsciousness pervading the whole

universe). Being of aakaasa tattva, Jupiter's highest represent is

formless (nirguNa).

 

I am not an expert in Islam, but you can perhaps meditate on Allah.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

> Dear Ramapriya,

> Yes, off course! may be it falls in Aquarius due to backward

motion of Rahu. But I also told that may be due to anyother reasons.

How can matters and event in current Jupiter antar is defined. Both

in Rashi and Navamsha my Jupiter is in dushatana bhava and

functional malefic as well. Instead he is bestowing benevolence in

presence of bad transit.

> Regards

> Imran

> Ramapriya D <hubli@v...> wrote:Dear Imran,Could be wrong but I

guess Narayana, or his Islamic equivalent, is your ishtadevata,

unless some planet occupies Aq in D-9. Since Ra moves the other way,

the twelfth from it should also be reckoned likewise, I think.Warm

regards,Ramapriyahubli@v... -

Muhammad Imran vedic astrology Saturday,

March 08, 2003 7:27 AMRe: [vedic astrology] Questions on

Atmakaraka and Karakamsa

>

> Respected Gauranga Das

> Namaste,

> Excellent delineation on Atma Karaka, which I donot find anywhere

else except SJVC's forum. I have Chara Atma Karaka "Rahu" and in

navamsha occupied in Capricorn in second house. So Sagitarrius(also

D-9 lagna) lord i.e. Jupiter arise as my Ishta Devta. In the

currently going on Jupiter antara dasa, there is many ununal

experiences with me, like many true dreams, increased intuation and

recognition. Though at present more or less all the mega-grahas are

transiting in extremely bad position with respect to natal moon, but

there is peace of mind and indepth inner confidence and success in

higher studies. I still could not find the answer, how a functional

malefic's antar prove so beneficial.

> Is this due to lord of Ishta devata or any thing else reducing the

effect of malefic gochar and functional maleficent of antar dasanath

Jupiter?

> Regards

> Imran

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Dear Sir,

 

I have saturn in pisces navamsa only. To be clear I have given my

chart here for your analysis.

 

thanks and regards

K.Srinivasan

 

 

Date of Birth: May 19, 1978

Time of Birth: 1:30:00 pm

Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT

Place of Birth: Madurai(TN)

Longitude of Birth: 78 E 07

Latitude of Birth: 9 N 56

Dasa balance: Moon dasa ( 0 year 0 month 4 days)

 

Charts cast to No.28 Vakya Panchanga

 

 

 

+----------------------+

| | | | Ven |

| | | Sun | |

| Ket | Mer | | |

| | | | |

| | | | Jup |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | Saturn |

| | | Mars |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------| R A S I |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| | | LAGNA |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| | | | Rah |

| | | | |

| | | | Moo |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| Saturn | | | |

| Rah | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| Jupiter | | |

| Sun | | |

| | | Moon |

| | | |

|-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| Mar | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | Ven | |

| | | Mercury | |

| | LAGNA | | Ketu |

| | | | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...>

wrote:

> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear Srinivasan,

>

> Namaste.

>

> -

> "K.Srinivasan" <ka_shrinivaasan>

> <vedic astrology>

> Friday, March 07, 2003 9:12 AM

> [vedic astrology] Questions on Atmakaraka and Karakamsa

>

>

> > Dear all,

> >

> > I have few questions below:

> >

> > 1.How does Saturn fare if he becomes Atmakaraka. I have Saturn as

> > atmakaraka present in pisces navamsa with Rahu conjoining him.

>

> I have written a whole article on AK. It is to appear in the March

issue of

> JD. An excerpt from it:

>

> Saturn: Accepts a lot of suffering and is resistant to it, he is not

> dependent on the amount of happiness/distress he achieves. He should

learn

> how to avoid giving sorrow to others, empathize and share their

sorrows and

> help them.

> Examples: Cardinal Richelieu, Aliester Crowley.

>

> Saturn as AK in Pisces is strong spiritually because he is a

malefic, and

> Pisces is the sign of Moksha. However Rahu may give an obstruction.

>

> > 2.I have Jupiter and Sun in aquarius navamsa (12th from karakamsa).

> > Since 12th is for realisation of moksha, what are the effects of

> > Jupiter/Sun in 12th from karakamsa?

>

> No-no. Karakamsha means the Atmakaraka's position in Navamsha, not

in Rasi.

> The above statement by you holds true only if AK is vargottama in your

> chart, i.e. Saturn is in Pisces both in Rasi and Navamsa. Jupiuter

and the

> Sun combined will indicate Lord Vishnu and Rama. Especially the form

of Lord

> Caitanya having six arms (Sadbhuja Mahaprabhu) is suitable for

worship if

> your KA is actually Pisces.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> gauranga@b...

> Jyotish Remedies:

> WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> Phone:+36-309-140-839

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JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Ramapriya,

 

Namaste.

 

I disagree reckoning 12th from Rahu in Karakamsa in the opposite direction. 12th

is always reckoned the same way independently of the move of the AK because

always 12th is the moksha sthana. Plus consider that Rahu gives an aspect on

the 2nd from it but not the 12th.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies:

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839

-

Ramapriya D

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 3:02 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Questions on Atmakaraka and Karakamsa

Dear Imran,

Could be wrong but I guess Narayana, or his Islamic equivalent, is your

ishtadevata, unless some planet occupies Aq in D-9. Since Ra moves the other

way, the twelfth from it should also be reckoned likewise, I think.

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

-

Muhammad Imran

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 7:27 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Questions on Atmakaraka and Karakamsa

Respected Gauranga Das Namaste, Excellent delineation on Atma Karaka, which I

donot find anywhere else except SJVC's forum. I have Chara Atma Karaka "Rahu"

and in navamsha occupied in Capricorn in second house. So Sagitarrius(also D-9

lagna) lord i.e. Jupiter arise as my Ishta Devta. In the currently going on

Jupiter antara dasa, there is many ununal experiences with me, like many true

dreams, increased intuation and recognition. Though at present more or less all

the mega-grahas are transiting in extremely bad position with respect to natal

moon, but there is peace of mind and indepth inner confidence and success in

higher studies. I still could not find the answer, how a functional malefic's

antar prove so beneficial. Is this due to lord of Ishta devata or any thing

else reducing the effect of malefic gochar and functional maleficent of antar

dasanath Jupiter? Regards ImranArchives:

vedic astrologyGroup info:

vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank

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Dear Shri Narasimhaji

 

 

Does the same is applicable for a weak ishta Jupiter also?

 

Both the AK(Moon in Rasi) and ishta (Jupiter in D-9) are debilitated.

what does it shows? Is it shows lack of spiritiual progress?

 

Regards

 

tri

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...> wrote:

> Salaam Imran Bhai,

>

> The 12th from Rahu should be reckoned as usual. Unless there is any

> planet in Sg in navamsa, Jupiter shows ishta devata. Jupiter can

> show Vamana and many other deities, but he finally shows nirguNa

> parabrahman (formless superconsciousness pervading the whole

> universe). Being of aakaasa tattva, Jupiter's highest represent is

> formless (nirguNa).

>

> I am not an expert in Islam, but you can perhaps meditate on Allah.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> > Dear Ramapriya,

> > Yes, off course! may be it falls in Aquarius due to backward

> motion of Rahu. But I also told that may be due to anyother

reasons.

> How can matters and event in current Jupiter antar is defined. Both

> in Rashi and Navamsha my Jupiter is in dushatana bhava and

> functional malefic as well. Instead he is bestowing benevolence in

> presence of bad transit.

> > Regards

> > Imran

> > Ramapriya D <hubli@v...> wrote:Dear Imran,Could be wrong but I

> guess Narayana, or his Islamic equivalent, is your ishtadevata,

> unless some planet occupies Aq in D-9. Since Ra moves the other

way,

> the twelfth from it should also be reckoned likewise, I think.Warm

> regards,Ramapriyahubli@v... -

> Muhammad Imran vedic astrology Saturday,

> March 08, 2003 7:27 AMRe: [vedic astrology] Questions on

> Atmakaraka and Karakamsa

> >

> > Respected Gauranga Das

> > Namaste,

> > Excellent delineation on Atma Karaka, which I donot find anywhere

> else except SJVC's forum. I have Chara Atma Karaka "Rahu" and in

> navamsha occupied in Capricorn in second house. So Sagitarrius(also

> D-9 lagna) lord i.e. Jupiter arise as my Ishta Devta. In the

> currently going on Jupiter antara dasa, there is many ununal

> experiences with me, like many true dreams, increased intuation and

> recognition. Though at present more or less all the mega-grahas are

> transiting in extremely bad position with respect to natal moon,

but

> there is peace of mind and indepth inner confidence and success in

> higher studies. I still could not find the answer, how a functional

> malefic's antar prove so beneficial.

> > Is this due to lord of Ishta devata or any thing else reducing

the

> effect of malefic gochar and functional maleficent of antar

dasanath

> Jupiter?

> > Regards

> > Imran

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You're right, Gauranga. PVR had already clarified this to Imran -- and I learnt

from it too :o)

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

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Gauranga Das

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:17 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Questions on Atmakaraka and Karakamsa

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Ramapriya,

 

Namaste.

 

I disagree reckoning 12th from Rahu in Karakamsa in the opposite direction. 12th

is always reckoned the same way independently of the move of the AK because

always 12th is the moksha sthana. Plus consider that Rahu gives an aspect on

the 2nd from it but not the 12th.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies:

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839

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