Guest guest Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Dear Sridhar, Hare Rama Krsna! >Using KP The 1st child is a Girl: Vrishab Rashi, Rohini Star Please also explain how you came to this conclusion? I will post the result of the Quiz next week. Yours sincerely, Dhira Krsna dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Dear Ram, Co-ordinates for Ghent : 3E43, 51N3, 1 HR east of GMT. -Suresh. vedic astrology, "Ramapriya D" <hubli@v...> wrote: > Dear DKD, > > Since most of us aren't Belgian, we'd appreciate the coordinates of Ghent > ) > > Warm regards, > > Ramapriya > hubli@v... > > > > - > "Dhira Krsna BCS" <Dhira.Krsna.BCS@p...> > "vedic astrology" <vedic astrology> > Friday, March 07, 2003 12:32 AM > [vedic astrology] Children - Saptamsa Quiz > > > > Hare Rama Krsna! > > > > Dear jyotishi, > > > > Shall we have another Quiz? All those that would like to participate can > > please tell us what is the sex of the first child of this native, and you > > can also guess the lagna of the child. Use whatever skills you might have > > in this regard. Any idea about timing of birth is also welcome. > > > > The native has 1 child so far. The data of birth are as follows: > > Nov 28, 1972 at 15:20 in Ghent, Belgium. GMT +1. > > > > Your sishya, > > Dhira Krsna dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Namasshivaaya! Dear Dhira Krsna, Saptamsa for the native has Gemini rising, and 5th lord (zodiacal for Gemini is Odd sign) Venus is placed in Sagitarious in dicating a "Male Child". The child's Lagna can be Sagi or it's trines. He could have been born "between 2001 Sept and 2002 Feb" or "After 2003 Jan 22nd". Best Regards, -Suresh. vedic astrology, "Dhira Krsna BCS" <Dhira.Krsna.BCS@p...> wrote: > Sorry, I forgot to mention, the native is a male. > > > Hare Rama Krsna! > > > > Dear jyotishi, > > > > Shall we have another Quiz? All those that would like to participate can > > please tell us what is the sex of the first child of this native, and > > you can also guess the lagna of the child. Use whatever skills you might > > have in this regard. Any idea about timing of birth is also welcome. > > > > The native has 1 child so far. The data of birth are as follows: > > Nov 28, 1972 at 15:20 in Ghent, Belgium. GMT +1. > > > > Your sishya, > > Dhira Krsna dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 ` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>, Dear Dhira Krsna Das, As per the chart casted as per the time given ,the Lagna is Mesha and 5th is Simha which is occupied by Chandra ,a female planet.5th lord Surya is in 8th from Lagna but 4th from Chandra Lagna and he is with Budha ® .Now both planets are in the nakshatra of Anuradha rule by Shani which is in Vrishabha.Now if we look at Putra Karaka Guru he is placed in 9th from Lagna in his Moola Trikona house with Rahu and both are placed in Poorvashada ruled by Shukra ,a female planet and is also placed in his own Moola Trikona house of Tula.So by all these methods ,I can say that the 1st child born was a female ..Also this child has problems in eyes as 12th from 5th house is aspected by Shani ® and the problem may be in left eye. I hope this helps. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Sureshbabu Chandra <suchandr (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Ram, Co-ordinates for Ghent : 3E43, 51N3, 1 HR east of GMT.-Suresh. vedic astrology, "Ramapriya D" <hubli@v...> wrote:> Dear DKD,> > Since most of us aren't Belgian, we'd appreciate the coordinates of Ghent> )> > Warm regards,> > Ramapriya> hubli@v...> > > > ----- Original Message -----> "Dhira Krsna BCS" <Dhira.Krsna.BCS@p...>> To: "vedic astrology" <vedic astrology>> Friday, March 07, 2003 12:32 AM> [vedic astrology] Children - Saptamsa Quiz> > > > Hare Rama Krsna!> >> > Dear jyotishi,> >> > Shall we have another Quiz? All those that would like to participate can> > please tell us what is the sex of the first child of this native, and you> > can also guess the lagna of the child. Use whatever skills you might have> > in this regard. Any idea about timing of birth is also welcome.> >> > The native has 1 child so far. The data of birth are as follows:> > Nov 28, 1972 at 15:20 in Ghent, Belgium. GMT +1.> >> > Your sishya,> > Dhira Krsna dasa> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> >> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Your use of is subject to > >> >> >Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 Dear Ramadas, Hare Rama Krsna! You have nicely given a description using the rasi chart. Indeed, the rasi chart will basically also describe the characteristics of the child. So for 1st child you have taken the 5th house and the 5th lord, then for 2nd child you would take the 7th and 7th lord and so on. Do you also work in reverse order if the native would be a female, i.e. starting from 9th house? Would you say that you can correctly find out the sex of the child without looking at the Saptamsa chart, or will Saptamsa chart only confirm what is already in the Rasi chart? Your analysis of problems with the eyes is very right. I have made the chart of the child already for the parents and indeed problems with the eyes I had predicted. Would you say the aspect of Shani alone to 12th or 2nd from the 5th house will give problems with eyes or could it be Mars or Rahu as well, who are also disease inflictors? Any idea about timing of birth? Your sishya, Dhira Krsna dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 Namasshivaaya! Dear Dhira Krsna Dasa, Yes. Vimshottari. Regards, -Suresh vedic astrology, "Dhira Krsna BCS" <Dhira.Krsna.BCS@p...> wrote: > Dear Sureshbabu, > > Hare Rama Krsna! > > >He could have been > >born "between 2001 Sept and 2002 Feb" or "After 2003 Jan 22nd". > > How did you come to this conclusion? Vimshottari dasha or other? > > Your sishya, > Dhira Krsna dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 ` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>, Dear Dhira Krsna Das ji, As what you wrote ,I had given this analysis by looking into the chart and navamsha chart and the nakshatra lords and planet dispositors and Karakas.Only for confirming you can go through D-7 chart.For me the D-1 and D-9 charts are enough and now only recently started looking other divisional charts.No w for the 2nd chaild see 3rd from 5th and its lord both in Rasi and Navamsha and also Nakshatra lord and 3rd lord dispositor Now here in this case 7th is occupied by its lord Shukra with Kuja also the Lagna and 8th lord .Kuja and Shukra both are in the nakshatra of Swati ruled by Rahu and Rahu is with Guru in Moolatrikona house But Rahu is about 25 deg.38 min. and Guru is in 16 deg.57 min.(I am using KP Ayanamsha )Rahu is in Vrischika navamsha and is debilitated So either the 2nd child may not be there or even if it comes to this world ,its life will be very short. Now see in navamsha chart ,Kuja is the 5th lord ,so he might have got the 1st child during this Dasa .In the main chart ,Surya is 5th lord and 5th is occupied by Chandra and both are in trine to Kuja in Navamsha chart and so the child might have born during Kuja Dasa and Chandra's antara 5-8-2000 and 6-3-2001.This is because in Shadbala ,Chandra is more stronger than Surya. Now I have told you that the child may have left eye trouble.There are 2 reasons for this.1) is as you said Shani ® aspecting 12th from 5th and 2) in Navamsha the significator for eyes Surya (Also 5th lord ) is debilitated.So the child may lose left eye. I hope this helps you. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Ramadas,Hare Rama Krsna!You have nicely given a description using the rasi chart. Indeed, the rasichart will basically also describe the characteristics of the child. Sofor 1st child you have taken the 5th house and the 5th lord, then for 2ndchild you would take the 7th and 7th lord and so on. Do you also work inreverse order if the native would be a female, i.e. starting from 9thhouse?Would you say that you can correctly find out the sex of the child withoutlooking at the Saptamsa chart, or will Saptamsa chart only confirm what isalready in the Rasi chart?Your analysis of problems with the eyes is very right. I have made thechart of the child already for the parents and indeed problems with theeyes I had predicted. Would you say the aspect of Shani alone to 12th or2nd from the 5th house will give problems with eyes or could it be Mars orRahu as well, who are also disease inflictors?Any idea about timing of birth?Your sishya,Dhira Krsna dasaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 ` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>, Dear Dhira Krsna Das ji, I forgotten to add some more points.I have calculated Ashtaka Varga points for Rahu and in the chart given Rahu has 6 auspicious bindus.Now as Kuja is in the nakshtara of Swati ruled by Rahu ,Rahu dasa can give child birth .The Rahu dasa-Rahu's Antara between 6-3-2001 and 17-11-2003 ,the child might have born ..Anyhow the ending date of this Antara has not come still.At present rahu is transitting over Vrishabha Rasi which has 4 bindus and Guru was transitting over Mithuna Rasi in April-May 2002.In Mithuna Guru has got 4 points and Dhanu where natal Guru has got 5 bindus and Rahu has got 6 bindus.Guru is in Dhanu 16 deg.57 Min and transit Guru was crossing this longitude on 30-4-2002 ,when Anuradha nakshtra was on that day and the day was Tuesday .So according to these conditions this may be the birth of the child. I hope this helps you. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>, Dear Dhira Krsna Das ji, As what you wrote ,I had given this analysis by looking into the chart and navamsha chart and the nakshatra lords and planet dispositors and Karakas.Only for confirming you can go through D-7 chart.For me the D-1 and D-9 charts are enough and now only recently started looking other divisional charts.No w for the 2nd chaild see 3rd from 5th and its lord both in Rasi and Navamsha and also Nakshatra lord and 3rd lord dispositor Now here in this case 7th is occupied by its lord Shukra with Kuja also the Lagna and 8th lord .Kuja and Shukra both are in the nakshatra of Swati ruled by Rahu and Rahu is with Guru in Moolatrikona house But Rahu is about 25 deg.38 min. and Guru is in 16 deg.57 min.(I am using KP Ayanamsha )Rahu is in Vrischika navamsha and is debilitated So either the 2nd child may not be there or even if it comes to this world ,its life will be very short. Now see in navamsha chart ,Kuja is the 5th lord ,so he might have got the 1st child during this Dasa .In the main chart ,Surya is 5th lord and 5th is occupied by Chandra and both are in trine to Kuja in Navamsha chart and so the child might have born during Kuja Dasa and Chandra's antara 5-8-2000 and 6-3-2001.This is because in Shadbala ,Chandra is more stronger than Surya. Now I have told you that the child may have left eye trouble.There are 2 reasons for this.1) is as you said Shani ® aspecting 12th from 5th and 2) in Navamsha the significator for eyes Surya (Also 5th lord ) is debilitated.So the child may lose left eye. I hope this helps you. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Ramadas,Hare Rama Krsna!You have nicely given a description using the rasi chart. Indeed, the rasichart will basically also describe the characteristics of the child. Sofor 1st child you have taken the 5th house and the 5th lord, then for 2ndchild you would take the 7th and 7th lord and so on. Do you also work inreverse order if the native would be a female, i.e. starting from 9thhouse?Would you say that you can correctly find out the sex of the child withoutlooking at the Saptamsa chart, or will Saptamsa chart only confirm what isalready in the Rasi chart?Your analysis of problems with the eyes is very right. I have made thechart of the child already for the parents and indeed problems with theeyes I had predicted. Would you say the aspect of Shani alone to 12th or2nd from the 5th house will give problems with eyes or could it be Mars orRahu as well, who are also disease inflictors?Any idea about timing of birth?Your sishya,Dhira Krsna dasaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Dear Dhira Krsna Dasa, Birth of first child was between July 17, 2002 and August 16, 2002. This prediction is made based on transit analysis. I read this reference in one of the books in my possesion. I am curious if it is accurate ! (Jatakadesh Marg Chap XVI V.25: Birth of a child may take place when Jupiter, the lord of the 5H, the LL and the lord of the Moon sign transit the house occupied but the 5L or the 5H itself or the trine signs of these two houses). Best Wishes. Ashwin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Dear Ashwin, >Birth of first child was between July 17, 2002 and August 16, 2002. Sorry, not correct. Any idea of the sex of the child? Male/female? Yours sincerely, Dhira Krsna dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Dear Dhira Krsna Dasa, Sex of first child likely female (Based on D1 and D9). The D7 could change if birth-time is considered to be 3:21 as mentioned in Narasimhaji's post. What is considered the "Birthtime" - the actual time of birth or the time when the umbilical cord blood circulation stops/is disrupted or the first cry ! This has been discussed at length in the past. I am sure the discussion will continue after you have given the answer. Best Wishes. Ashwin. Subj: [vedic astrology] Re: Children - Saptamsa Quiz 3/11/2003 4:07:20 PM Eastern Standard Time Dhira.Krsna.BCS (AT) pamho (DOT) net Reply-to: vedic astrology vedic astrology Dear Ashwin, >Birth of first child was between July 17, 2002 and August 16, 2002. Sorry, not correct. Any idea of the sex of the child? Male/female? Yours sincerely, Dhira Krsna dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Dear Dhira Krishna, If the birthtime is changed by 54 sec, then lagna in D-7 changes from Ge to Cn. That changes the timing and everything. Have you rectified this birthtime confidently? BTW, was the childbirth between Nov 2000 and Nov 2001 (esp first 4 months of 2001)? I am saying this after changing the D-7 lagna based on gut feeling, even though that is not the right approach. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 Hare Rama Krsna Dear Dhira, Whenever some of the advanced Jyotishas like yourself come up with a chart, its usually because they couldn't explain the events themself, or they are challenging the thought process of like-minded. So i applied myself abit harder. General Overview In the Rasi i at first glance see Moon in the 5th, aspected by Jupiter and Rahu by Graha Dristi. This implies some shock (Rahu) regarding childbirth, and the desire to kill/abort a child as Jupiter and Rahu join and cause manushya hata yoga.. i.e. the killing of human beings. This is confirmed by 5th lords placement in the 8th house with 3rd and 6th lord Mercury. Now why would such a desire come? Moon is in the 5th influencing the activity of getting children, and is lord of the Darapada, showing a child coming out of a casual relationship. Possibly an extramarital relationship! Now its necessary to look for Jara Yoga's. Lagna lord is Mars and joined Venus the 7th lord in the 7th, showing a person very sexually inclined. However in both Rasi and Navamsa, the 2nd house is occupied by Shani the retrograde- Atmakaraka, indicating a soul with a deep desire to renounce the world and all its followings. Peculiar situation no doubt. The Dispositor of the AK in Rasi is Venus in the 7th house, showing that this desire becomes realised after enjoying a sexual relationship.. The nature of the relationship is confirmed as Venus is in Deva Navamsa. Had it been in Rakshasa possibility of rape and such adverse dharma would be indicated by the Venus and Mars combination. Why did the sexual relationship cause this? Venus is Chara Putra Karaka, the topic of children came to light. Timing Now as per the Moola Dasa birth of children can happen in the Dasa of the 5th house, lord of Karaka. Moon Dasa ran from Nov/2001-Nov/2002, prior to that Saturn Dasa was running. This adds up to the Rahu Vimshottari Dasa (April/2001)which the native was experiencing during the same time, confirming his state of mind when he heard of the child. The birth could have happened during Late December-early January, whilst Sun was transiting Scorpio which is close to his birthday. Depending on the Saptamsa Lagna, the child could be born on either Panchami/Trayodasi or Shasti/Chaturdasi. In the former case the child would have possibility of premature birth and be a girl (blessings of Tryambakeswari) or in the latter be born in normal time and be a boy. In both cases Jupiterian signs are strong, which would make me opt for either Pisces or Sagittarius Lagna. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Dhira Krsna BCS vedic astrology Thursday, March 06, 2003 8:02 PM [vedic astrology] Children - Saptamsa Quiz Hare Rama Krsna!Dear jyotishi,Shall we have another Quiz? All those that would like to participate canplease tell us what is the sex of the first child of this native, and youcan also guess the lagna of the child. Use whatever skills you might havein this regard. Any idea about timing of birth is also welcome.The native has 1 child so far. The data of birth are as follows:Nov 28, 1972 at 15:20 in Ghent, Belgium. GMT +1.Your sishya,Dhira Krsna dasaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 Dear Visti, Being a good astrologer means using common sence. Your prediction might be true but unless the native nobody else can justify it. (Because we are predicting the first baby of a male). If you are confident of what you predicted, think of second child also and mention that as first child (Or should we consider A5 ie for the world which is first child of his?) PS: Intention is not to hurt anybody, Satyam bruyath priyam bruyath Na bruyath satyamapriyam. Arunkumar - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Wednesday, 12 March, 2003 06:25 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Children - Saptamsa Quiz Hare Rama Krsna Dear Dhira, Whenever some of the advanced Jyotishas like yourself come up with a chart, its usually because they couldn't explain the events themself, or they are challenging the thought process of like-minded. So i applied myself abit harder. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.461 / Virus Database: 260 - Release Date: 11-03-03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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