vargottama and rashi sandhi - for Chandrashekhar Ji

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Dear Chandrashekhar ji,

 

Your analysis for transits of major planets for Gemini ascendant was

very educational. What is your prediction for Cancer Ascendant? Will

Cancer Ascendant people, running Saturn Dasha, come in trouble now

that Saturn is due to move to Gemini (from 11th to 12th house),

Jupiter will move to Leo (from 1st to 2nd house), and Rahu will move

to Aries (from 11 to 10)?

 

With high regrads

 

Vivek

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar"

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Rangarajan,

> You have understood the logic. If I may add Saturn in Gemini may be

the beginning of the end of the bad period specially in the second

half of his stay as he is also lord of the 9th.

> Chandrashekhar.

> -

> rangarajan

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:26 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

>

>

> Dear chandrasekhar: Thanks for your reply. my understanding (it

may be flawed) of the four major grahas, which could have long term

impact, (jupiter, saturn, raghu and ketu) jupiter, saturn and raghu

hovered around 12th, ist and second house for the last 3-4 years. it

is only after this july when jupiter moves away from cancer and

followed by raghu moving towards aries, geminians could expect some

changes. of course it will be still more better, if saturn also moves

away from gemini. till then an indiviudals favourable dasa/bhukti

could devier some of the better times.

> with regards

> rangarajan

>

At 01:03 AM 3/11/03 +0530, you wrote:

>

> Dear Rangarajan,

> For Gemini ascendant Saturn is lord of 8th&9th and Jupiter lord

of 7th and 10th.The problems started around the time when Jupiter

entered Capricorn and Saturn was in Pisces.You will find that post

his coming to pisces Saturn was atichari and sat Jup crossed three

Rasis almost together. Currently the Saturn is retro in 12th with

rahu.I think my logic would be clear.

> Chandrashekhar.

> -

> rangarajan

> vedic astrology

> Monday, March 10, 2003 5:34 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

>

>

> dear chandrasekhar:

> if possible could you clarify further your statement

that "Most of the gemini ascendant persons are facing problems for

last 7 years or so".

> is it because of the raghu being in and around gemini and

combining with saturn also being present in and around gemini. i hope

you can elaborate at your convenience.

> with regards

> rangarajan

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

At 03:33 PM 3/8/03 +0530, you wrote:

> Dear Ajit,

> You are rightly confused by all the talk about avastha of

grahas and their ability to give rise to yogas and such otherthings

that are discusse on the list.

> My advice is never to take any statement in

isolation.When avasthas of Grahas are to be seen then there are two

opinions , one is that all planets are inefective when at 6 degrees

and so on; and other who reverse the avasthas for even and odd

rasis.Had that not been the case how would be Moon be in 3degrees

taurus and be called parmoccha?Again Sun is parmoccha in Aries

10degrees.

> Vargottama always takes precedent over other avasthas of

a planet.If you have read, a planet in neecha in natal chart gives

results of uccha if he is in uccha in Navamsha.

> About results of Sun Mahadasha, for your lagna Sun is

lord of 3rd hence not very auspicious.Your lord of 9th saturn is in

12th house aspecting natal Sun, this adds to the problems.You should

start getting relief after Saturn moves to Gemini. This migh be a

period of too many worries about one's standing in public.Things will

start picking up really well when your Rahu antar starts.

> Do not feel awkward about seeking m opinion.Most of the

Gemini ascendant persons are facing problems for last 7 years or so.

Therefore I never feel burdened by their queries as they are really

might be in trouble.Jyotish is for helping people.

> Chandrashekhar.

> -

> astrolover1959

> vedic astrology

> Friday, March 07, 2003 11:02 AM

> [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Respected Chandershekhar ji:

> There is considerable confusion on whether a planet in

infancy (0 to

> 5 degrees in rashi) overrides its infancy if it is

vargottama in

> navamsa. generally it is said that infant planet is very

week and is

> not capable of expressing itself fully during its period.

But on the

> other hand if such a planet is vargottama, and is

otherwise well

> placed (i.e., not debilitated or functional melefic), it

gains

> additional strength by virtue of its being in vargottama.

If that is

> the case, then can such a planet's significations

manifest during

> that planet's dasa despite its weekness on account of

extreme

> infancy. Also, what about the effect of rashi sandhi in

such a case?

> In my chart (gemini lagna), I have sun at zero degree

(vargottama in

> navamsa) in second house in cancer with Mercury. Venus

and Mars in

> Leo in the third, Rahu in Virgo in the 4th, Jupiter in

Libra in 5th,

> moon (2nd house dispositor) is debilitated in scorpio in

6th, saturn

> in Sagi in 7th, and ketu in pisces in 10th house. The

reason why I'm

> anxious about my vargottama sun is that my sun's mahadasa

has just

> started in end Dec 2002. And although I was going thru a

lot of

> turmoil in last phase of Venus dasa (ketu antara), yet I

was

> expecting things to improve with the onset of Sun's

mahadasa. But so

> far things are getting only worse. I am just wondering

what my sun's

> mahadasa has in store for me overall, partcularly from

the career

> standpoint.

>

>

> I know it is very selfish soliciting this kind of direct

personal

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pardon this

> misdemeanour on my part, keeping my current state of mind.

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Dear Viveka,

It was only a general observation wrt a partiicular lagna specially as Saturn is

lord of the 8th and 9th for it.Predicting for lagnas as a group has many dangers

as other mitigating factors could overrule what you think might happen on the

bassis only one reference point.

As only a general observation for cancer ascendant the transit of Saturn to

gemini could indicate relocation as he is lord of 7th and 8th due to very

unexpected events. I could also lead to sme health problems like scitica or

arthritis or problems relating to ailmentary tracts due to its aspect on the

8th house. Expenditure might increase on account of any of these account.

However as Cancer is occupied by Jupiter in exaltation and being lord of the

9th problems would be probably more on mental plane than physical

ones.Operating Dashash and position of trine lords also needs to be considered

before coming to any definite conclusion.

Chandrashekhar.

Chandrashekhar.

 

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vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:35 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: vargottama and rashi sandhi - for Chandrashekhar Ji

OMDear Chandrashekhar ji,Your analysis for transits of major planets for Gemini

ascendant was very educational. What is your prediction for Cancer Ascendant?

Will Cancer Ascendant people, running Saturn Dasha, come in trouble now that

Saturn is due to move to Gemini (from 11th to 12th house), Jupiter will move to

Leo (from 1st to 2nd house), and Rahu will move to Aries (from 11 to 10)?With

high regradsVivekvedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar"

<boxdel> wrote:> Dear Rangarajan,> You have understood the logic. If I may

add Saturn in Gemini may be the beginning of the end of the bad period specially

in the second half of his stay as he is also lord of the 9th.> Chandrashekhar.>

- > rangarajan > To:

vedic astrology > Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:26 AM>

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi> > > Dear

chandrasekhar: Thanks for your reply. my understanding (it may be flawed) of

the four major grahas, which could have long term impact, (jupiter, saturn,

raghu and ketu) jupiter, saturn and raghu hovered around 12th, ist and second

house for the last 3-4 years. it is only after this july when jupiter moves

away from cancer and followed by raghu moving towards aries, geminians could

expect some changes. of course it will be still more better, if saturn also

moves away from gemini. till then an indiviudals favourable dasa/bhukti could

devier some of the better times.> with regards> rangarajan > > > > > > > >

At 01:03 AM 3/11/03 +0530, you wrote: > > Dear Rangarajan,> For Gemini

ascendant Saturn is lord of 8th&9th and Jupiter lord of 7th and 10th.The

problems started around the time when Jupiter entered Capricorn and Saturn was

in Pisces.You will find that post his coming to pisces Saturn was atichari and

sat Jup crossed three Rasis almost together. Currently the Saturn is retro in

12th with rahu.I think my logic would be clear.> Chandrashekhar. >

- > rangarajan > To:

vedic astrology > Monday, March 10, 2003 5:34 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi> > >

dear chandrasekhar: > if possible could you clarify further your

statement that "Most of the gemini ascendant persons are facing problems for

last 7 years or so". > is it because of the raghu being in and around

gemini and combining with saturn also being present in and around gemini. i

hope you can elaborate at your convenience. > with regards >

rangarajan> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 03:33 PM 3/8/03

+0530, you wrote: > Dear Ajit, > You are rightly confused

by all the talk about avastha of grahas and their ability to give rise to yogas

and such otherthings that are discusse on the list. > My advice is

never to take any statement in isolation.When avasthas of Grahas are to be seen

then there are two opinions , one is that all planets are inefective when at 6

degrees and so on; and other who reverse the avasthas for even and odd

rasis.Had that not been the case how would be Moon be in 3degrees taurus and be

called parmoccha?Again Sun is parmoccha in Aries 10degrees. >

Vargottama always takes precedent over other avasthas of a planet.If you have

read, a planet in neecha in natal chart gives results of uccha if he is in

uccha in Navamsha. > About results of Sun Mahadasha, for your lagna

Sun is lord of 3rd hence not very auspicious.Your lord of 9th saturn is in 12th

house aspecting natal Sun, this adds to the problems.You should start getting

relief after Saturn moves to Gemini. This migh be a period of too many worries

about one's standing in public.Things will start picking up really well when

your Rahu antar starts. > Do not feel awkward about seeking m

opinion.Most of the Gemini ascendant persons are facing problems for last 7

years or so. Therefore I never feel burdened by their queries as they are

really might be in trouble.Jyotish is for helping people. >

Chandrashekhar. > - >

astrolover1959 > vedic astrology >

Friday, March 07, 2003 11:02 AM > [vedic astrology]

vargottama and rashi sandhi> > > > > > > Respected Chandershekhar ji:

> There is considerable confusion on whether a planet in infancy (0 to

> 5 degrees in rashi) overrides its infancy if it is vargottama in >

navamsa. generally it is said that infant planet is very week and is >

not capable of expressing itself fully during its period. But on the >

other hand if such a planet is vargottama, and is otherwise well >

placed (i.e., not debilitated or functional melefic), it gains >

additional strength by virtue of its being in vargottama. If that is >

the case, then can such a planet's significations manifest during >

that planet's dasa despite its weekness on account of extreme >

infancy. Also, what about the effect of rashi sandhi in such a case? >

In my chart (gemini lagna), I have sun at zero degree (vargottama in >

navamsa) in second house in cancer with Mercury. Venus and Mars in >

Leo in the third, Rahu in Virgo in the 4th, Jupiter in Libra in 5th, >

moon (2nd house dispositor) is debilitated in scorpio in 6th, saturn >

in Sagi in 7th, and ketu in pisces in 10th house. The reason why I'm >

anxious about my vargottama sun is that my sun's mahadasa has just >

started in end Dec 2002. And although I was going thru a lot of >

turmoil in last phase of Venus dasa (ketu antara), yet I was >

expecting things to improve with the onset of Sun's mahadasa. But so >

far things are getting only worse. I am just wondering what my sun's >

mahadasa has in store for me overall, partcularly from the career >

standpoint.> > > I know it is very selfish soliciting this kind of

direct personal > favour, but I hope you and other learned gurus will

pardon this > misdemeanour on my part, keeping my current state of

mind.> > > > > > > thanks and regards, > Ajit> > > > > > >

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Dear Chandrashekhar Ji,

 

Thank you very much for your kind reply. As usual, your explanations

are so clear and educational and very helpful for a student of

astrology like me.

 

I have just one small clarification to seek. While refering to

transit of saturn into Gemini for a Cancer Lagna, you wrote

"I could also lead to sme health problems like scitica or arthritis

or problems relating to ailmentary tracts due to its aspect on the

8th house."

 

Were you refering to Saturn's aspect on 6th house, or to Saturn's 8

lordship, or were you refering to 8th lord aspecting 6th house?

 

With high regards

 

Vivek

 

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar"

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Viveka,

> It was only a general observation wrt a partiicular lagna specially

as Saturn is lord of the 8th and 9th for it.Predicting for lagnas as

a group has many dangers as other mitigating factors could overrule

what you think might happen on the bassis only one reference point.

> As only a general observation for cancer ascendant the transit of

Saturn to gemini could indicate relocation as he is lord of 7th and

8th due to very unexpected events. I could also lead to sme health

problems like scitica or arthritis or problems relating to ailmentary

tracts due to its aspect on the 8th house. Expenditure might increase

on account of any of these account. However as Cancer is occupied by

Jupiter in exaltation and being lord of the 9th problems would be

probably more on mental plane than physical ones.Operating Dashash

and position of trine lords also needs to be considered before coming

to any definite conclusion.

> Chandrashekhar.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> -

> vivek_pratibha

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:35 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: vargottama and rashi sandhi - for

Chandrashekhar Ji

>

>

> OM

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar ji,

>

> Your analysis for transits of major planets for Gemini ascendant

was

> very educational. What is your prediction for Cancer Ascendant?

Will

> Cancer Ascendant people, running Saturn Dasha, come in trouble

now

> that Saturn is due to move to Gemini (from 11th to 12th house),

> Jupiter will move to Leo (from 1st to 2nd house), and Rahu will

move

> to Aries (from 11 to 10)?

>

> With high regrads

>

> Vivek

>

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar"

> <boxdel> wrote:

> > Dear Rangarajan,

> > You have understood the logic. If I may add Saturn in Gemini

may be

> the beginning of the end of the bad period specially in the

second

> half of his stay as he is also lord of the 9th.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> > -

> > rangarajan

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:26 AM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

> >

> >

> > Dear chandrasekhar: Thanks for your reply. my understanding

(it

> may be flawed) of the four major grahas, which could have long

term

> impact, (jupiter, saturn, raghu and ketu) jupiter, saturn and

raghu

> hovered around 12th, ist and second house for the last 3-4 years.

it

> is only after this july when jupiter moves away from cancer and

> followed by raghu moving towards aries, geminians could expect

some

> changes. of course it will be still more better, if saturn also

moves

> away from gemini. till then an indiviudals favourable dasa/bhukti

> could devier some of the better times.

> > with regards

> > rangarajan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > At 01:03 AM 3/11/03 +0530, you wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rangarajan,

> > For Gemini ascendant Saturn is lord of 8th&9th and Jupiter

lord

> of 7th and 10th.The problems started around the time when Jupiter

> entered Capricorn and Saturn was in Pisces.You will find that

post

> his coming to pisces Saturn was atichari and sat Jup crossed

three

> Rasis almost together. Currently the Saturn is retro in 12th with

> rahu.I think my logic would be clear.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> > -

> > rangarajan

> > vedic astrology

> > Monday, March 10, 2003 5:34 AM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi

sandhi

> >

> >

> > dear chandrasekhar:

> > if possible could you clarify further your statement

> that "Most of the gemini ascendant persons are facing problems

for

> last 7 years or so".

> > is it because of the raghu being in and around gemini

and

> combining with saturn also being present in and around gemini. i

hope

> you can elaborate at your convenience.

> > with regards

> > rangarajan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > At 03:33 PM 3/8/03 +0530, you wrote:

> > Dear Ajit,

> > You are rightly confused by all the talk about

avastha of

> grahas and their ability to give rise to yogas and such

otherthings

> that are discusse on the list.

> > My advice is never to take any statement in

> isolation.When avasthas of Grahas are to be seen then there are

two

> opinions , one is that all planets are inefective when at 6

degrees

> and so on; and other who reverse the avasthas for even and odd

> rasis.Had that not been the case how would be Moon be in 3degrees

> taurus and be called parmoccha?Again Sun is parmoccha in Aries

> 10degrees.

> > Vargottama always takes precedent over other avasthas

of

> a planet.If you have read, a planet in neecha in natal chart

gives

> results of uccha if he is in uccha in Navamsha.

> > About results of Sun Mahadasha, for your lagna Sun is

> lord of 3rd hence not very auspicious.Your lord of 9th saturn is

in

> 12th house aspecting natal Sun, this adds to the problems.You

should

> start getting relief after Saturn moves to Gemini. This migh be a

> period of too many worries about one's standing in public.Things

will

> start picking up really well when your Rahu antar starts.

> > Do not feel awkward about seeking m opinion.Most of

the

> Gemini ascendant persons are facing problems for last 7 years or

so.

> Therefore I never feel burdened by their queries as they are

really

> might be in trouble.Jyotish is for helping people.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> > -

> > astrolover1959

> > vedic astrology

> > Friday, March 07, 2003 11:02 AM

> > [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Respected Chandershekhar ji:

> > There is considerable confusion on whether a planet

in

> infancy (0 to

> > 5 degrees in rashi) overrides its infancy if it is

> vargottama in

> > navamsa. generally it is said that infant planet is

very

> week and is

> > not capable of expressing itself fully during its

period.

> But on the

> > other hand if such a planet is vargottama, and is

> otherwise well

> > placed (i.e., not debilitated or functional melefic),

it

> gains

> > additional strength by virtue of its being in

vargottama.

> If that is

> > the case, then can such a planet's significations

> manifest during

> > that planet's dasa despite its weekness on account of

> extreme

> > infancy. Also, what about the effect of rashi sandhi

in

> such a case?

> > In my chart (gemini lagna), I have sun at zero degree

> (vargottama in

> > navamsa) in second house in cancer with Mercury.

Venus

> and Mars in

> > Leo in the third, Rahu in Virgo in the 4th, Jupiter

in

> Libra in 5th,

> > moon (2nd house dispositor) is debilitated in scorpio

in

> 6th, saturn

> > in Sagi in 7th, and ketu in pisces in 10th house. The

> reason why I'm

> > anxious about my vargottama sun is that my sun's

mahadasa

> has just

> > started in end Dec 2002. And although I was going

thru a

> lot of

> > turmoil in last phase of Venus dasa (ketu antara),

yet I

> was

> > expecting things to improve with the onset of Sun's

> mahadasa. But so

> > far things are getting only worse. I am just

wondering

> what my sun's

> > mahadasa has in store for me overall, partcularly

from

> the career

> > standpoint.

> >

> >

> > I know it is very selfish soliciting this kind of

direct

> personal

> > favour, but I hope you and other learned gurus will

> pardon this

> > misdemeanour on my part, keeping my current state of

mind.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > thanks and regards,

> > Ajit

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Dear Viveka

It was a typo, it is 6th house that I was reffering to.

I am sorry for the inconvinience.

Chandrashekhar.

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vivek_pratibha

vedic astrology

Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:52 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: vargottama and rashi sandhi - for Chandrashekhar Ji

OMDear Chandrashekhar Ji,Thank you very much for your kind reply. As usual, your

explanations are so clear and educational and very helpful for a student of

astrology like me.I have just one small clarification to seek. While refering

to transit of saturn into Gemini for a Cancer Lagna, you wrote "I could also

lead to sme health problems like scitica or arthritis or problems relating to

ailmentary tracts due to its aspect on the 8th house."Were you refering to

Saturn's aspect on 6th house, or to Saturn's 8 lordship, or were you refering

to 8th lord aspecting 6th house?With high regardsVivek--- In

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear

Viveka,> It was only a general observation wrt a partiicular lagna specially as

Saturn is lord of the 8th and 9th for it.Predicting for lagnas as a group has

many dangers as other mitigating factors could overrule what you think might

happen on the bassis only one reference point.> As only a general observation

for cancer ascendant the transit of Saturn to gemini could indicate relocation

as he is lord of 7th and 8th due to very unexpected events. I could also lead

to sme health problems like scitica or arthritis or problems relating to

ailmentary tracts due to its aspect on the 8th house. Expenditure might

increase on account of any of these account. However as Cancer is occupied by

Jupiter in exaltation and being lord of the 9th problems would be probably more

on mental plane than physical ones.Operating Dashash and position of trine lords

also needs to be considered before coming to any definite conclusion.>

Chandrashekhar.> Chandrashekhar. > > - >

vivek_pratibha > vedic astrology > Wednesday,

March 12, 2003 4:35 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: vargottama and rashi

sandhi - for Chandrashekhar Ji> > > OM> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji,> > Your

analysis for transits of major planets for Gemini ascendant was > very

educational. What is your prediction for Cancer Ascendant? Will > Cancer

Ascendant people, running Saturn Dasha, come in trouble now > that Saturn is

due to move to Gemini (from 11th to 12th house), > Jupiter will move to Leo

(from 1st to 2nd house), and Rahu will move > to Aries (from 11 to 10)?> >

With high regrads> > Vivek> > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" > <boxdel> wrote:> >

Dear Rangarajan,> > You have understood the logic. If I may add Saturn in

Gemini may be > the beginning of the end of the bad period specially in the

second > half of his stay as he is also lord of the 9th.> >

Chandrashekhar.> > - > > rangarajan >

> vedic astrology > > Tuesday, March 11, 2003

8:26 AM> > Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi> >

> > > > Dear chandrasekhar: Thanks for your reply. my understanding (it >

may be flawed) of the four major grahas, which could have long term >

impact, (jupiter, saturn, raghu and ketu) jupiter, saturn and raghu > hovered

around 12th, ist and second house for the last 3-4 years. it > is only after

this july when jupiter moves away from cancer and > followed by raghu moving

towards aries, geminians could expect some > changes. of course it will be

still more better, if saturn also moves > away from gemini. till then an

indiviudals favourable dasa/bhukti > could devier some of the better times.>

> with regards> > rangarajan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> At 01:03 AM 3/11/03 +0530, you wrote: > > > > Dear Rangarajan,> >

For Gemini ascendant Saturn is lord of 8th&9th and Jupiter lord > of 7th

and 10th.The problems started around the time when Jupiter > entered

Capricorn and Saturn was in Pisces.You will find that post > his coming to

pisces Saturn was atichari and sat Jup crossed three > Rasis almost together.

Currently the Saturn is retro in 12th with > rahu.I think my logic would be

clear.> > Chandrashekhar. > > - >

> rangarajan > > vedic astrology >

> Monday, March 10, 2003 5:34 AM > > Re:

[vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi> > > > > > dear

chandrasekhar: > > if possible could you clarify further your

statement > that "Most of the gemini ascendant persons are facing problems

for > last 7 years or so". > > is it because of the raghu being in

and around gemini and > combining with saturn also being present in and

around gemini. i hope > you can elaborate at your convenience. > >

with regards > > rangarajan> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

At 03:33 PM 3/8/03 +0530, you wrote: > > Dear Ajit, > >

You are rightly confused by all the talk about avastha of > grahas and their

ability to give rise to yogas and such otherthings > that are discusse on the

list. > > My advice is never to take any statement in >

isolation.When avasthas of Grahas are to be seen then there are two >

opinions , one is that all planets are inefective when at 6 degrees > and so

on; and other who reverse the avasthas for even and odd > rasis.Had that not

been the case how would be Moon be in 3degrees > taurus and be called

parmoccha?Again Sun is parmoccha in Aries > 10degrees. > >

Vargottama always takes precedent over other avasthas of > a planet.If you

have read, a planet in neecha in natal chart gives > results of uccha if he

is in uccha in Navamsha. > > About results of Sun Mahadasha, for

your lagna Sun is > lord of 3rd hence not very auspicious.Your lord of 9th

saturn is in > 12th house aspecting natal Sun, this adds to the problems.You

should > start getting relief after Saturn moves to Gemini. This migh be a >

period of too many worries about one's standing in public.Things will > start

picking up really well when your Rahu antar starts. > > Do not feel

awkward about seeking m opinion.Most of the > Gemini ascendant persons are

facing problems for last 7 years or so. > Therefore I never feel burdened by

their queries as they are really > might be in trouble.Jyotish is for helping

people. > > Chandrashekhar. > > ----- Original Message

----- > > astrolover1959 > > To:

vedic astrology > > Friday, March 07, 2003

11:02 AM > > [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi

sandhi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected

Chandershekhar ji: > > There is considerable confusion on whether a

planet in > infancy (0 to > > 5 degrees in rashi) overrides its

infancy if it is > vargottama in > > navamsa. generally it is

said that infant planet is very > week and is > > not capable of

expressing itself fully during its period. > But on the > > other

hand if such a planet is vargottama, and is > otherwise well > >

placed (i.e., not debilitated or functional melefic), it > gains > >

additional strength by virtue of its being in vargottama. > If that is >

> the case, then can such a planet's significations > manifest

during > > that planet's dasa despite its weekness on account of >

extreme > > infancy. Also, what about the effect of rashi sandhi in

> such a case? > > In my chart (gemini lagna), I have sun at zero

degree > (vargottama in > > navamsa) in second house in cancer

with Mercury. Venus > and Mars in > > Leo in the third, Rahu in

Virgo in the 4th, Jupiter in > Libra in 5th, > > moon (2nd house

dispositor) is debilitated in scorpio in > 6th, saturn > > in

Sagi in 7th, and ketu in pisces in 10th house. The > reason why I'm > >

anxious about my vargottama sun is that my sun's mahadasa > has just >

> started in end Dec 2002. And although I was going thru a > lot of

> > turmoil in last phase of Venus dasa (ketu antara), yet I >

was > > expecting things to improve with the onset of Sun's >

mahadasa. But so > > far things are getting only worse. I am just

wondering > what my sun's > > mahadasa has in store for me

overall, partcularly from > the career > > standpoint.> > > >

> > I know it is very selfish soliciting this kind of direct >

personal > > favour, but I hope you and other learned gurus will >

pardon this > > misdemeanour on my part, keeping my current state

of mind.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards,

> > Ajit> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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