Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Wishful thinking boys?? Don't want to rain on your parade, but perhaps you should take another look at Australia's chart. D10 still puzzles me as to why Oz remains unbeatable. Sure we are under Mercury maha dasa with Lagna lord Mercury, owning 10th in the 5th, but Mercury is with deb Jupiter. I hope you can give an explanation when delivering your post mortem. Ann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Dear Ramadas Rao, Then what was it that went wrong ? The only prediction that seemes to have gone right is that of Mr. Venkateshwara, who said that Sehwag Would be at his "vintage " best. 99 % astrologers had predicted India's win ! Does it mean that all their methods were an effort in futility ? This is not a test of Cricket strength - it is a test of the techniques of Vedic Astrology. I am certain ALL those who had predicted India's win will now resort to the excuse that they had overlooked one or the other inimical aspect/conjuction/transit but the point is - does it really hold water. I personally think we need a NEW VEDIC ASTROLOGY - One that is relevant to the Kaliyuga. Pardon me for being candid, but predictive astrology is NOT for determining the reasons for a certain event in retrospective, and if so, it is of no practical use! Deepak N. Original Message ----- Ramadas Rao vedic astrology Sunday, March 23, 2003 12:22 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAH Dear Narasimha Rao ji, It is really a very good analysis.I also pray God that through Sachin's wonderful performance,India be victorious in this finals of World Cup. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Namaste friends, Out of Australia and India, India has a better chance of winning the cup. I gave an analysis of the respective annual charts more than a month back (enclosed below). Out of the countries left in the fray, India has the best chance. There is only one player involved whose chart I know confidently - Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. So I will analyze his chances of doing well tomorrow, based on monthly Tithi pravesh chart. Birthdata: 24 April 24 1973, 16:28 (IST), 73 E 00', 20 N 00' His Jan-Feb monthly TP chart is 24 January 2003, 11:52:15 In the Holland match that took place on Sukla Ekadasi tithi ruled by Mars, he did well - compiled a half-century - but the team did poorly. India still won, bur drew a lot of flak. In D-10 of the above monthly chart, Mars is in the 6th house from lagna and 3rd from AL and gave success to Sachin himself. But, being with retrograde Saturn and Ketu, he gave that success amid shakiness all around him. In the Australia match that took place on Sukla Chaturdasi tithi ruled by Venus, he top-scored in an Indian collapse with just 36. India lost badly. Venus, being a benefic in the 7th from AL, shows success of opponents. Being in the 9th from A6 also, he protects rivals. His tithi saw the victory of rivals. You can analyze all the matches like this. Now move on to the next monthly chart. His Feb-Mar monthly TP chart data: 22 February 2003, 19:53:42 (IST) In this chart, Venus stands out. In rasi, he is the 10th lord in 5th. In D-10, he is lagna lord in a quadrant and he is in AL. He is the dispositor of exalted Saturn and Ketu, who are very well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 3rd from AL. Based on all these, Sachin's best has to come on Shashthi/Chaturdasi tithis during the month (which will get over the day after the final). The only two matches scheduled on those tithis during the month are the Pakistan match on March 1 and the final tomorrow! In the former, Sachin came up with a bewitching performance against a top bowling attack. Though placed in AL, Jupiter is a bad planet. He is the 8th lord in rasi and dasamsa. If a functional malefic is placed in AL, he can affect the status negatively. On Jupiter's tithi, Sachin failed against Kenya in the supersixes match. Apart from Venus, another planet who stands out positively in D-10 is Saturn. He is yogakaraka in D-10 and is exalted in the 3rd from AL and 6th from lagna. During his tithi, Sachin came up with another master knock against Sri Lanka. My prediction is that Sachin will be at his vintage best tomorrow and do well quite like he did on March 1 against Pakistan. India will win. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------- [From my mail of Feb 18, 2003] Predictions (1) Australia: Their annual chart data is: January 14, 2003Time: 15:55:45Time Zone: 10:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 144 E 58' 00", 37 S 49' 00" They run Mercury dasa till March 15 and start Saturn dasa then. In rasi chart, Mercury has 7 rekhas in AV. In D-10 also, he is strong with 6 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 33 rekhas in SAV. Mercury is the 5th lord from AL and well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 4th from AL (with malefic Mars). Mercury shows success. He is well-placed in Le from natal rasi Mercury. OTOH, Saturn is in the 8th house in D-10, in a sign with just 23 rekhas in SAV. Saturn dasa from March 15 will give a disappointment and not the world cup. Viv Richards wrote correctly that the defending champions may be peaking too early. Australia will do quite well until March 15, i.e. in the preliminary matches and in the super six stage. After March 15, they will face a disappointment. An off day will cost them the finals or even the semifinals perhaps. They may not win the cup. (2) South Africa: Their annual chart data is: May 12, 2002Time: 4:17:40Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 28 E 10' 00", 25 S 45' 00" They run Jupiter dasa throughout the tournament. Jupiter with 4 rekhas occupies the weakest sign in D-10 SAV (Sg with 21 rekhas). Though he is well-placed in the 2nd from D-10 with Moon, it only suggests showing good resources/infrastructure (2nd). In the 6th from AL with Moon, he does not promise victory. South Africa will do quite poorly and not succeed in keeping up the promise they showed coming into the tournament at home. They may not win the cup. (3) Sri Lanka: Their annual chart data is: January 27, 2003Time: 3:31:23Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 79 E 52' 00", 6 N 56' 00" They run Moon dasa till March 7 and Mars dasa after that. Moon is strong in D-10 in own sign with 4 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 30 rekhas in SAV. He is in a quadrant from lagna and 2nd from AL (good placement - feeds image). He has argala on 3rd and 6th from lagna and aspects 5th lord. Moon dasa will be quite good. Mars, OTOH, is in the 8th house (albeit in an own sign). He has 3 in his AV and the sign has 28 in SAV. Mars dasa is not so favorable. Sri Lanka will do very well until March 7, i.e. in the preliminary rounds. They will run out of steam in the super six stage. They may not win the cup. (4) India: Their annual chart data is: August 7, 2002Time: 5:25:52Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" Delhi, India They run Mars dasa till Feb 26 and start Mercury dasa on Feb 26 (just before the day/night match against England). In D-10, both Mars and Mercury are placed in AL, in the 3rd house from lagna, in a sign with 30 points. Mercury is stronger with 4 rekhas in his AV. Mars gives the results of Mercury and gives a mild and wavering performance. Mercury gives the results of yoga karaka Mars and gives an aggressive and confident performance and an aggressive image. India will do poorly and waver until Feb 26. They may prevail over Zimbabwe with difficulty on Feb 19 and have a not-so-great win over Namibia on Feb 23. But, they will have a turn-around from the England match on Feb 26 and will raise their game from then. Starting then, they will play well throughout the rest of the tournament. They even have some chance of winning the cup. (5) Pakistan: Their annual chart data is: August 6, 2002Time: 2:56:05Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 67 E 03' 00", 24 N 52' 00" They run Venus dasa till March 6 and Sun dasa from then. In D-10, Venus is the 5th lord and occupies lagna with 9th lord Saturn. He aspects GL too. But Venus is poorly placed from natal rasi Mercury. So Venus dasa is mixed, with more favorable results. Sun is the 3rd lord with 6th lord Mars and lagna lord Mercury, giving VRY in the 4th house in AL in D-10. Sun is well-placed from natal rasi Mercury in AV and he aspects GL in Pi in D-10. Overall, Sun dasa promises sporting success. Pakistan will do well throughout the tournament. They may have some disappointments in the initial rounds before March 6, but will raise their game in the super six stage. They are a very strong contender for the cup (strongest in the five teams considered here). They may atleast play in the semifinals and most probably in the finals too. [Note: I misjudged Pakistan's poor luck in the initial rounds. Venus dasa was not "mixed", but quite bad. They did not even make it to the next round to capitalize on the good period.] Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 HOWZZAT? Stumped!!!!!!!!! Ponting hit us for a super six. regards, anu.( no offence) - Narasimha P.V.R. Rao vedic astrology Saturday, March 22, 2003 9:23 PM [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final Namaste friends, Out of Australia and India, India has a better chance of winning the cup. I gave an analysis of the respective annual charts more than a month back (enclosed below). Out of the countries left in the fray, India has the best chance. There is only one player involved whose chart I know confidently - Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. So I will analyze his chances of doing well tomorrow, based on monthly Tithi pravesh chart. Birthdata: 24 April 24 1973, 16:28 (IST), 73 E 00', 20 N 00' His Jan-Feb monthly TP chart is 24 January 2003, 11:52:15 In the Holland match that took place on Sukla Ekadasi tithi ruled by Mars, he did well - compiled a half-century - but the team did poorly. India still won, bur drew a lot of flak. In D-10 of the above monthly chart, Mars is in the 6th house from lagna and 3rd from AL and gave success to Sachin himself. But, being with retrograde Saturn and Ketu, he gave that success amid shakiness all around him. In the Australia match that took place on Sukla Chaturdasi tithi ruled by Venus, he top-scored in an Indian collapse with just 36. India lost badly. Venus, being a benefic in the 7th from AL, shows success of opponents. Being in the 9th from A6 also, he protects rivals. His tithi saw the victory of rivals. You can analyze all the matches like this. Now move on to the next monthly chart. His Feb-Mar monthly TP chart data: 22 February 2003, 19:53:42 (IST) In this chart, Venus stands out. In rasi, he is the 10th lord in 5th. In D-10, he is lagna lord in a quadrant and he is in AL. He is the dispositor of exalted Saturn and Ketu, who are very well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 3rd from AL. Based on all these, Sachin's best has to come on Shashthi/Chaturdasi tithis during the month (which will get over the day after the final). The only two matches scheduled on those tithis during the month are the Pakistan match on March 1 and the final tomorrow! In the former, Sachin came up with a bewitching performance against a top bowling attack. Though placed in AL, Jupiter is a bad planet. He is the 8th lord in rasi and dasamsa. If a functional malefic is placed in AL, he can affect the status negatively. On Jupiter's tithi, Sachin failed against Kenya in the supersixes match. Apart from Venus, another planet who stands out positively in D-10 is Saturn. He is yogakaraka in D-10 and is exalted in the 3rd from AL and 6th from lagna. During his tithi, Sachin came up with another master knock against Sri Lanka. My prediction is that Sachin will be at his vintage best tomorrow and do well quite like he did on March 1 against Pakistan. India will win. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------- [From my mail of Feb 18, 2003] Predictions (1) Australia: Their annual chart data is: January 14, 2003Time: 15:55:45Time Zone: 10:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 144 E 58' 00", 37 S 49' 00" They run Mercury dasa till March 15 and start Saturn dasa then. In rasi chart, Mercury has 7 rekhas in AV. In D-10 also, he is strong with 6 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 33 rekhas in SAV. Mercury is the 5th lord from AL and well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 4th from AL (with malefic Mars). Mercury shows success. He is well-placed in Le from natal rasi Mercury. OTOH, Saturn is in the 8th house in D-10, in a sign with just 23 rekhas in SAV. Saturn dasa from March 15 will give a disappointment and not the world cup. Viv Richards wrote correctly that the defending champions may be peaking too early. Australia will do quite well until March 15, i.e. in the preliminary matches and in the super six stage. After March 15, they will face a disappointment. An off day will cost them the finals or even the semifinals perhaps. They may not win the cup. (2) South Africa: Their annual chart data is: May 12, 2002Time: 4:17:40Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 28 E 10' 00", 25 S 45' 00" They run Jupiter dasa throughout the tournament. Jupiter with 4 rekhas occupies the weakest sign in D-10 SAV (Sg with 21 rekhas). Though he is well-placed in the 2nd from D-10 with Moon, it only suggests showing good resources/infrastructure (2nd). In the 6th from AL with Moon, he does not promise victory. South Africa will do quite poorly and not succeed in keeping up the promise they showed coming into the tournament at home. They may not win the cup. (3) Sri Lanka: Their annual chart data is: January 27, 2003Time: 3:31:23Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 79 E 52' 00", 6 N 56' 00" They run Moon dasa till March 7 and Mars dasa after that. Moon is strong in D-10 in own sign with 4 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 30 rekhas in SAV. He is in a quadrant from lagna and 2nd from AL (good placement - feeds image). He has argala on 3rd and 6th from lagna and aspects 5th lord. Moon dasa will be quite good. Mars, OTOH, is in the 8th house (albeit in an own sign). He has 3 in his AV and the sign has 28 in SAV. Mars dasa is not so favorable. Sri Lanka will do very well until March 7, i.e. in the preliminary rounds. They will run out of steam in the super six stage. They may not win the cup. (4) India: Their annual chart data is: August 7, 2002Time: 5:25:52Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" Delhi, India They run Mars dasa till Feb 26 and start Mercury dasa on Feb 26 (just before the day/night match against England). In D-10, both Mars and Mercury are placed in AL, in the 3rd house from lagna, in a sign with 30 points. Mercury is stronger with 4 rekhas in his AV. Mars gives the results of Mercury and gives a mild and wavering performance. Mercury gives the results of yoga karaka Mars and gives an aggressive and confident performance and an aggressive image. India will do poorly and waver until Feb 26. They may prevail over Zimbabwe with difficulty on Feb 19 and have a not-so-great win over Namibia on Feb 23. But, they will have a turn-around from the England match on Feb 26 and will raise their game from then. Starting then, they will play well throughout the rest of the tournament. They even have some chance of winning the cup. (5) Pakistan: Their annual chart data is: August 6, 2002Time: 2:56:05Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 67 E 03' 00", 24 N 52' 00" They run Venus dasa till March 6 and Sun dasa from then. In D-10, Venus is the 5th lord and occupies lagna with 9th lord Saturn. He aspects GL too. But Venus is poorly placed from natal rasi Mercury. So Venus dasa is mixed, with more favorable results. Sun is the 3rd lord with 6th lord Mars and lagna lord Mercury, giving VRY in the 4th house in AL in D-10. Sun is well-placed from natal rasi Mercury in AV and he aspects GL in Pi in D-10. Overall, Sun dasa promises sporting success. Pakistan will do well throughout the tournament. They may have some disappointments in the initial rounds before March 6, but will raise their game in the super six stage. They are a very strong contender for the cup (strongest in the five teams considered here). They may atleast play in the semifinals and most probably in the finals too. [Note: I misjudged Pakistan's poor luck in the initial rounds. Venus dasa was not "mixed", but quite bad. They did not even make it to the next round to capitalize on the good period.] Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Om Gurave Namah Om Namo Narayanaya Dear List Neither Sachin did well nor did India win. What went wrong with all predictions? It would be interesting to understand how Srinagesh predicted Sehwag would do very well. I would also like to meditate on one point. Ketu governs mistakes. So if a player loses his wicket, it is due to some mistake on his part. So would not Narayana dasa at deeper levels (PAD, DAD etc) of his d-10 or relevant varga, reveal timing of his losing wicket (if we have his birth chart!!). It would be interesting to have Narasimha comment on this analysis. This World Cup results might get a whole bunch of people research more. May Jupiter guide us all Best wishes R. Kasthuri Rangan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 -Dear Pvr HowZZat? STUMPED!!!!!!!! Ricky Ponting hit us for a super six. regards, anu.(no offence) -- In vedic astrology, "Deepak Nair" <superdeep@g...> wrote: > Dear Ramadas Rao, > > Then what was it that went wrong ? > > The only prediction that seemes to have gone right is that of Mr. Venkateshwara, who said that Sehwag Would be at his "vintage " best. > > 99 % astrologers had predicted India's win ! > Does it mean that all their methods were an effort in futility ? > > This is not a test of Cricket strength - it is a test of the techniques of Vedic Astrology. > > I am certain ALL those who had predicted India's win will now resort to the excuse that they had overlooked one or the other inimical aspect/conjuction/transit but the point is - does it really hold water. I personally think we need a NEW VEDIC ASTROLOGY - One that is relevant to the Kaliyuga. > > Pardon me for being candid, but predictive astrology is NOT for determining the reasons for a certain event in retrospective, and if so, it is of no practical use! > > Deepak N. > > Original Message ----- > Ramadas Rao > vedic astrology > Sunday, March 23, 2003 12:22 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final > > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAH > > Dear Narasimha Rao ji, > > It is really a very good analysis.I also pray God that through Sachin's wonderful performance,India be victorious in this finals of World Cup. > > With best regards, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: > > Namaste friends, > > Out of Australia and India, India has a better chance of winning the cup. I gave an analysis of the respective annual charts more than a month back (enclosed below). Out of the countries left in the fray, India has the best chance. > > There is only one player involved whose chart I know confidently - Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. So I will analyze his chances of doing well tomorrow, based on monthly Tithi pravesh chart. > > Birthdata: 24 April 24 1973, 16:28 (IST), 73 E 00', 20 N 00' > > His Jan-Feb monthly TP chart is 24 January 2003, 11:52:15 > > In the Holland match that took place on Sukla Ekadasi tithi ruled by Mars, he did well - compiled a half-century - but the team did poorly. India still won, bur drew a lot of flak. In D-10 of the above monthly chart, Mars is in the 6th house from lagna and 3rd from AL and gave success to Sachin himself. But, being with retrograde Saturn and Ketu, he gave that success amid shakiness all around him. > > In the Australia match that took place on Sukla Chaturdasi tithi ruled by Venus, he top-scored in an Indian collapse with just 36. India lost badly. Venus, being a benefic in the 7th from AL, shows success of opponents. Being in the 9th from A6 also, he protects rivals. His tithi saw the victory of rivals. > > You can analyze all the matches like this. Now move on to the next monthly chart. > > His Feb-Mar monthly TP chart data: 22 February 2003, 19:53:42 (IST) > > In this chart, Venus stands out. In rasi, he is the 10th lord in 5th. In D-10, he is lagna lord in a quadrant and he is in AL. He is the dispositor of exalted Saturn and Ketu, who are very well- placed in the 6th from lagna and 3rd from AL. Based on all these, Sachin's best has to come on Shashthi/Chaturdasi tithis during the month (which will get over the day after the final). The only two matches scheduled on those tithis during the month are the Pakistan match on March 1 and the final tomorrow! In the former, Sachin came up with a bewitching performance against a top bowling attack. > > Though placed in AL, Jupiter is a bad planet. He is the 8th lord in rasi and dasamsa. If a functional malefic is placed in AL, he can affect the status negatively. On Jupiter's tithi, Sachin failed against Kenya in the supersixes match. > > Apart from Venus, another planet who stands out positively in D- 10 is Saturn. He is yogakaraka in D-10 and is exalted in the 3rd from AL and 6th from lagna. During his tithi, Sachin came up with another master knock against Sri Lanka. > > My prediction is that Sachin will be at his vintage best tomorrow and do well quite like he did on March 1 against Pakistan. India will win. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > ------------------- > [From my mail of Feb 18, 2003] > > Predictions > > (1) Australia: Their annual chart data is: > > January 14, 2003 > Time: 15:55:45 > Time Zone: 10:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 144 E 58' 00", 37 S 49' 00" > > > They run Mercury dasa till March 15 and start Saturn dasa then. > > In rasi chart, Mercury has 7 rekhas in AV. In D-10 also, he is strong with 6 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 33 rekhas in SAV. Mercury is the 5th lord from AL and well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 4th from AL (with malefic Mars). Mercury shows success. He is well-placed in Le from natal rasi Mercury. > > OTOH, Saturn is in the 8th house in D-10, in a sign with just 23 rekhas in SAV. Saturn dasa from March 15 will give a disappointment and not the world cup. > > Viv Richards wrote correctly that the defending champions may be peaking too early. Australia will do quite well until March 15, i.e. in the preliminary matches and in the super six stage. After March 15, they will face a disappointment. An off day will cost them the finals or even the semifinals perhaps. They may not win the cup. > > (2) South Africa: Their annual chart data is: > > May 12, 2002 > Time: 4:17:40 > Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 28 E 10' 00", 25 S 45' 00" > > They run Jupiter dasa throughout the tournament. Jupiter with 4 rekhas occupies the weakest sign in D-10 SAV (Sg with 21 rekhas). Though he is well-placed in the 2nd from D-10 with Moon, it only suggests showing good resources/infrastructure (2nd). In the 6th from AL with Moon, he does not promise victory. > > South Africa will do quite poorly and not succeed in keeping up the promise they showed coming into the tournament at home. They may not win the cup. > > (3) Sri Lanka: Their annual chart data is: > > January 27, 2003 > Time: 3:31:23 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 79 E 52' 00", 6 N 56' 00" > > > They run Moon dasa till March 7 and Mars dasa after that. > > Moon is strong in D-10 in own sign with 4 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 30 rekhas in SAV. He is in a quadrant from lagna and 2nd from AL (good placement - feeds image). He has argala on 3rd and 6th from lagna and aspects 5th lord. Moon dasa will be quite good. > > Mars, OTOH, is in the 8th house (albeit in an own sign). He has 3 in his AV and the sign has 28 in SAV. Mars dasa is not so favorable. > > Sri Lanka will do very well until March 7, i.e. in the preliminary rounds. They will run out of steam in the super six stage. They may not win the cup. > > (4) India: Their annual chart data is: > > August 7, 2002 > Time: 5:25:52 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" > Delhi, India > > They run Mars dasa till Feb 26 and start Mercury dasa on Feb 26 (just before the day/night match against England). > > In D-10, both Mars and Mercury are placed in AL, in the 3rd house from lagna, in a sign with 30 points. Mercury is stronger with 4 rekhas in his AV. Mars gives the results of Mercury and gives a mild and wavering performance. Mercury gives the results of yoga karaka Mars and gives an aggressive and confident performance and an aggressive image. > > India will do poorly and waver until Feb 26. They may prevail over Zimbabwe with difficulty on Feb 19 and have a not-so-great win over Namibia on Feb 23. But, they will have a turn-around from the England match on Feb 26 and will raise their game from then. Starting then, they will play well throughout the rest of the tournament. They even have some chance of winning the cup. > > (5) Pakistan: Their annual chart data is: > > August 6, 2002 > Time: 2:56:05 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 67 E 03' 00", 24 N 52' 00" > > They run Venus dasa till March 6 and Sun dasa from then. > > In D-10, Venus is the 5th lord and occupies lagna with 9th lord Saturn. He aspects GL too. But Venus is poorly placed from natal rasi Mercury. So Venus dasa is mixed, with more favorable results. > > Sun is the 3rd lord with 6th lord Mars and lagna lord Mercury, giving VRY in the 4th house in AL in D-10. Sun is well-placed from natal rasi Mercury in AV and he aspects GL in Pi in D-10. Overall, Sun dasa promises sporting success. > > Pakistan will do well throughout the tournament. They may have some disappointments in the initial rounds before March 6, but will raise their game in the super six stage. They are a very strong contender for the cup (strongest in the five teams considered here). They may atleast play in the semifinals and most probably in the finals too. > > [Note: I misjudged Pakistan's poor luck in the initial rounds. Venus dasa was not "mixed", but quite bad. They did not even make it to the next round to capitalize on the good period.] > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. 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Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Dear Deepak, You have opened discussions on a point which is very relevant to Astrology.I think the real problem is not in the analysis but which data to select. If you have read my post on US Iraq War, I had said that the Horoscope of nation is important when one wnats to see the results for a Nation. Similarly if a team's results are to be predicted then a team's or all the individual player's horoscopes have to be examined. As these details are hard to locate such analysis can make someone think that Astrology is not an accurate science. If impact on nation is to be seen then for India with Taurus ascendant, Saturn retrograde on the verge of entering Gemini aspecting 10th House and Jupiter lord of 8th and 11th aspecting 8th might have given a pointer to what happened. This would however have been streching it too far as defeat in Cricket match does not afect a Nation in a real sense. the defeat has in a way benefitted astrology in that it would teach the astrologer to chose right data for making predictions. I, too am watching the list with interrest as to what others say about predictions gone wrong by a mile. Chandrashekhar. - Deepak Nair vedic astrology Sunday, March 23, 2003 9:08 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final Dear Ramadas Rao, Then what was it that went wrong ? The only prediction that seemes to have gone right is that of Mr. Venkateshwara, who said that Sehwag Would be at his "vintage " best. 99 % astrologers had predicted India's win ! Does it mean that all their methods were an effort in futility ? This is not a test of Cricket strength - it is a test of the techniques of Vedic Astrology. I am certain ALL those who had predicted India's win will now resort to the excuse that they had overlooked one or the other inimical aspect/conjuction/transit but the point is - does it really hold water. I personally think we need a NEW VEDIC ASTROLOGY - One that is relevant to the Kaliyuga. Pardon me for being candid, but predictive astrology is NOT for determining the reasons for a certain event in retrospective, and if so, it is of no practical use! Deepak N. Original Message ----- Ramadas Rao vedic astrology Sunday, March 23, 2003 12:22 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAH Dear Narasimha Rao ji, It is really a very good analysis.I also pray God that through Sachin's wonderful performance,India be victorious in this finals of World Cup. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Namaste friends, Out of Australia and India, India has a better chance of winning the cup. I gave an analysis of the respective annual charts more than a month back (enclosed below). Out of the countries left in the fray, India has the best chance. There is only one player involved whose chart I know confidently - Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. So I will analyze his chances of doing well tomorrow, based on monthly Tithi pravesh chart. Birthdata: 24 April 24 1973, 16:28 (IST), 73 E 00', 20 N 00' His Jan-Feb monthly TP chart is 24 January 2003, 11:52:15 In the Holland match that took place on Sukla Ekadasi tithi ruled by Mars, he did well - compiled a half-century - but the team did poorly. India still won, bur drew a lot of flak. In D-10 of the above monthly chart, Mars is in the 6th house from lagna and 3rd from AL and gave success to Sachin himself. But, being with retrograde Saturn and Ketu, he gave that success amid shakiness all around him. In the Australia match that took place on Sukla Chaturdasi tithi ruled by Venus, he top-scored in an Indian collapse with just 36. India lost badly. Venus, being a benefic in the 7th from AL, shows success of opponents. Being in the 9th from A6 also, he protects rivals. His tithi saw the victory of rivals. You can analyze all the matches like this. Now move on to the next monthly chart. His Feb-Mar monthly TP chart data: 22 February 2003, 19:53:42 (IST) In this chart, Venus stands out. In rasi, he is the 10th lord in 5th. In D-10, he is lagna lord in a quadrant and he is in AL. He is the dispositor of exalted Saturn and Ketu, who are very well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 3rd from AL. Based on all these, Sachin's best has to come on Shashthi/Chaturdasi tithis during the month (which will get over the day after the final). The only two matches scheduled on those tithis during the month are the Pakistan match on March 1 and the final tomorrow! In the former, Sachin came up with a bewitching performance against a top bowling attack. Though placed in AL, Jupiter is a bad planet. He is the 8th lord in rasi and dasamsa. If a functional malefic is placed in AL, he can affect the status negatively. On Jupiter's tithi, Sachin failed against Kenya in the supersixes match. Apart from Venus, another planet who stands out positively in D-10 is Saturn. He is yogakaraka in D-10 and is exalted in the 3rd from AL and 6th from lagna. During his tithi, Sachin came up with another master knock against Sri Lanka. My prediction is that Sachin will be at his vintage best tomorrow and do well quite like he did on March 1 against Pakistan. India will win. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------- [From my mail of Feb 18, 2003] Predictions (1) Australia: Their annual chart data is: January 14, 2003Time: 15:55:45Time Zone: 10:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 144 E 58' 00", 37 S 49' 00" They run Mercury dasa till March 15 and start Saturn dasa then. In rasi chart, Mercury has 7 rekhas in AV. In D-10 also, he is strong with 6 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 33 rekhas in SAV. Mercury is the 5th lord from AL and well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 4th from AL (with malefic Mars). Mercury shows success. He is well-placed in Le from natal rasi Mercury. OTOH, Saturn is in the 8th house in D-10, in a sign with just 23 rekhas in SAV. Saturn dasa from March 15 will give a disappointment and not the world cup. Viv Richards wrote correctly that the defending champions may be peaking too early. Australia will do quite well until March 15, i.e. in the preliminary matches and in the super six stage. After March 15, they will face a disappointment. An off day will cost them the finals or even the semifinals perhaps. They may not win the cup. (2) South Africa: Their annual chart data is: May 12, 2002Time: 4:17:40Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 28 E 10' 00", 25 S 45' 00" They run Jupiter dasa throughout the tournament. Jupiter with 4 rekhas occupies the weakest sign in D-10 SAV (Sg with 21 rekhas). Though he is well-placed in the 2nd from D-10 with Moon, it only suggests showing good resources/infrastructure (2nd). In the 6th from AL with Moon, he does not promise victory. South Africa will do quite poorly and not succeed in keeping up the promise they showed coming into the tournament at home. They may not win the cup. (3) Sri Lanka: Their annual chart data is: January 27, 2003Time: 3:31:23Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 79 E 52' 00", 6 N 56' 00" They run Moon dasa till March 7 and Mars dasa after that. Moon is strong in D-10 in own sign with 4 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 30 rekhas in SAV. He is in a quadrant from lagna and 2nd from AL (good placement - feeds image). He has argala on 3rd and 6th from lagna and aspects 5th lord. Moon dasa will be quite good. Mars, OTOH, is in the 8th house (albeit in an own sign). He has 3 in his AV and the sign has 28 in SAV. Mars dasa is not so favorable. Sri Lanka will do very well until March 7, i.e. in the preliminary rounds. They will run out of steam in the super six stage. They may not win the cup. (4) India: Their annual chart data is: August 7, 2002Time: 5:25:52Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" Delhi, India They run Mars dasa till Feb 26 and start Mercury dasa on Feb 26 (just before the day/night match against England). In D-10, both Mars and Mercury are placed in AL, in the 3rd house from lagna, in a sign with 30 points. Mercury is stronger with 4 rekhas in his AV. Mars gives the results of Mercury and gives a mild and wavering performance. Mercury gives the results of yoga karaka Mars and gives an aggressive and confident performance and an aggressive image. India will do poorly and waver until Feb 26. They may prevail over Zimbabwe with difficulty on Feb 19 and have a not-so-great win over Namibia on Feb 23. But, they will have a turn-around from the England match on Feb 26 and will raise their game from then. Starting then, they will play well throughout the rest of the tournament. They even have some chance of winning the cup. (5) Pakistan: Their annual chart data is: August 6, 2002Time: 2:56:05Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 67 E 03' 00", 24 N 52' 00" They run Venus dasa till March 6 and Sun dasa from then. In D-10, Venus is the 5th lord and occupies lagna with 9th lord Saturn. He aspects GL too. But Venus is poorly placed from natal rasi Mercury. So Venus dasa is mixed, with more favorable results. Sun is the 3rd lord with 6th lord Mars and lagna lord Mercury, giving VRY in the 4th house in AL in D-10. Sun is well-placed from natal rasi Mercury in AV and he aspects GL in Pi in D-10. Overall, Sun dasa promises sporting success. Pakistan will do well throughout the tournament. They may have some disappointments in the initial rounds before March 6, but will raise their game in the super six stage. They are a very strong contender for the cup (strongest in the five teams considered here). They may atleast play in the semifinals and most probably in the finals too. [Note: I misjudged Pakistan's poor luck in the initial rounds. Venus dasa was not "mixed", but quite bad. They did not even make it to the next round to capitalize on the good period.] Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Hello All, Somehow Post-mortems are always easy Although my gut instinct said India was going to lose (the Aussies are too good in batting, fielding and bowling), I believed that India would win once I read the predictions of the gurus. Notwithstanding, it is not astrology that is wrong. Sometimes we miss looking at some key astrological factor. Venkatesh vedic astrology, "Ann Murphy" <evie@r...> wrote: > Wishful thinking boys?? > Don't want to rain on your parade, but perhaps you should take another look at Australia's chart. D10 still puzzles me as to why Oz remains unbeatable. Sure we are under Mercury maha dasa with Lagna lord Mercury, owning 10th in the 5th, but Mercury is with deb Jupiter. > I hope you can give an explanation when delivering your post mortem. > Ann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Om Gurave NamahDear Anna, Tasmin ucche neeche va srimantaH (Jamini)..with Sri Devi supporting them low chance of losing then. Besides Mercury has this ability to keep team spirits high. Thats thier strength - high morale.At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha,I remain,Sanjay RathMail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, IndiaTel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages: http://.org; Personal Web: http://srath.com - Ann Murphy vedic astrology Cc: Ann Murphy Sunday, March 23, 2003 8:42 PM [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final Wishful thinking boys?? Don't want to rain on your parade, but perhaps you should take another look at Australia's chart. D10 still puzzles me as to why Oz remains unbeatable. Sure we are under Mercury maha dasa with Lagna lord Mercury, owning 10th in the 5th, but Mercury is with deb Jupiter. I hope you can give an explanation when delivering your post mortem. Ann.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Dear Deepak, That is why I asked at what time the match started in the local time of Johannesberg.If anybody gives me this data I will tell where all have gone wrong.But yesterday ,I made a rough chart for 10 AM of start of the Match starting in Johannesberg and it gave me Mesha Lagna which is in dwi dwasha with Our Indian Independence chart.So then I had a doubt on India's win.But I actually dont know the actual time .So I kept quiet.Of course we have to see so many other factors also. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Deepak Nair <superdeep (AT) glide (DOT) net.in> wrote: Dear Ramadas Rao, Then what was it that went wrong ? The only prediction that seemes to have gone right is that of Mr. Venkateshwara, who said that Sehwag Would be at his "vintage " best. 99 % astrologers had predicted India's win ! Does it mean that all their methods were an effort in futility ? This is not a test of Cricket strength - it is a test of the techniques of Vedic Astrology. I am certain ALL those who had predicted India's win will now resort to the excuse that they had overlooked one or the other inimical aspect/conjuction/transit but the point is - does it really hold water. I personally think we need a NEW VEDIC ASTROLOGY - One that is relevant to the Kaliyuga. Pardon me for being candid, but predictive astrology is NOT for determining the reasons for a certain event in retrospective, and if so, it is of no practical use! Deepak N. Original Message ----- Ramadas Rao vedic astrology Sunday, March 23, 2003 12:22 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAH Dear Narasimha Rao ji, It is really a very good analysis.I also pray God that through Sachin's wonderful performance,India be victorious in this finals of World Cup. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Namaste friends, Out of Australia and India, India has a better chance of winning the cup. I gave an analysis of the respective annual charts more than a month back (enclosed below). Out of the countries left in the fray, India has the best chance. There is only one player involved whose chart I know confidently - Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. So I will analyze his chances of doing well tomorrow, based on monthly Tithi pravesh chart. Birthdata: 24 April 24 1973, 16:28 (IST), 73 E 00', 20 N 00' His Jan-Feb monthly TP chart is 24 January 2003, 11:52:15 In the Holland match that took place on Sukla Ekadasi tithi ruled by Mars, he did well - compiled a half-century - but the team did poorly. India still won, bur drew a lot of flak. In D-10 of the above monthly chart, Mars is in the 6th house from lagna and 3rd from AL and gave success to Sachin himself. But, being with retrograde Saturn and Ketu, he gave that success amid shakiness all around him. In the Australia match that took place on Sukla Chaturdasi tithi ruled by Venus, he top-scored in an Indian collapse with just 36. India lost badly. Venus, being a benefic in the 7th from AL, shows success of opponents. Being in the 9th from A6 also, he protects rivals. His tithi saw the victory of rivals. You can analyze all the matches like this. Now move on to the next monthly chart. His Feb-Mar monthly TP chart data: 22 February 2003, 19:53:42 (IST) In this chart, Venus stands out. In rasi, he is the 10th lord in 5th. In D-10, he is lagna lord in a quadrant and he is in AL. He is the dispositor of exalted Saturn and Ketu, who are very well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 3rd from AL. Based on all these, Sachin's best has to come on Shashthi/Chaturdasi tithis during the month (which will get over the day after the final). The only two matches scheduled on those tithis during the month are the Pakistan match on March 1 and the final tomorrow! In the former, Sachin came up with a bewitching performance against a top bowling attack. Though placed in AL, Jupiter is a bad planet. He is the 8th lord in rasi and dasamsa. If a functional malefic is placed in AL, he can affect the status negatively. On Jupiter's tithi, Sachin failed against Kenya in the supersixes match. Apart from Venus, another planet who stands out positively in D-10 is Saturn. He is yogakaraka in D-10 and is exalted in the 3rd from AL and 6th from lagna. During his tithi, Sachin came up with another master knock against Sri Lanka. My prediction is that Sachin will be at his vintage best tomorrow and do well quite like he did on March 1 against Pakistan. India will win. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------- [From my mail of Feb 18, 2003] Predictions (1) Australia: Their annual chart data is: January 14, 2003Time: 15:55:45Time Zone: 10:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 144 E 58' 00", 37 S 49' 00" They run Mercury dasa till March 15 and start Saturn dasa then. In rasi chart, Mercury has 7 rekhas in AV. In D-10 also, he is strong with 6 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 33 rekhas in SAV. Mercury is the 5th lord from AL and well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 4th from AL (with malefic Mars). Mercury shows success. He is well-placed in Le from natal rasi Mercury. OTOH, Saturn is in the 8th house in D-10, in a sign with just 23 rekhas in SAV. Saturn dasa from March 15 will give a disappointment and not the world cup. Viv Richards wrote correctly that the defending champions may be peaking too early. Australia will do quite well until March 15, i.e. in the preliminary matches and in the super six stage. After March 15, they will face a disappointment. An off day will cost them the finals or even the semifinals perhaps. They may not win the cup. (2) South Africa: Their annual chart data is: May 12, 2002Time: 4:17:40Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 28 E 10' 00", 25 S 45' 00" They run Jupiter dasa throughout the tournament. Jupiter with 4 rekhas occupies the weakest sign in D-10 SAV (Sg with 21 rekhas). Though he is well-placed in the 2nd from D-10 with Moon, it only suggests showing good resources/infrastructure (2nd). In the 6th from AL with Moon, he does not promise victory. South Africa will do quite poorly and not succeed in keeping up the promise they showed coming into the tournament at home. They may not win the cup. (3) Sri Lanka: Their annual chart data is: January 27, 2003Time: 3:31:23Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 79 E 52' 00", 6 N 56' 00" They run Moon dasa till March 7 and Mars dasa after that. Moon is strong in D-10 in own sign with 4 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 30 rekhas in SAV. He is in a quadrant from lagna and 2nd from AL (good placement - feeds image). He has argala on 3rd and 6th from lagna and aspects 5th lord. Moon dasa will be quite good. Mars, OTOH, is in the 8th house (albeit in an own sign). He has 3 in his AV and the sign has 28 in SAV. Mars dasa is not so favorable. Sri Lanka will do very well until March 7, i.e. in the preliminary rounds. They will run out of steam in the super six stage. They may not win the cup. (4) India: Their annual chart data is: August 7, 2002Time: 5:25:52Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" Delhi, India They run Mars dasa till Feb 26 and start Mercury dasa on Feb 26 (just before the day/night match against England). In D-10, both Mars and Mercury are placed in AL, in the 3rd house from lagna, in a sign with 30 points. Mercury is stronger with 4 rekhas in his AV. Mars gives the results of Mercury and gives a mild and wavering performance. Mercury gives the results of yoga karaka Mars and gives an aggressive and confident performance and an aggressive image. India will do poorly and waver until Feb 26. They may prevail over Zimbabwe with difficulty on Feb 19 and have a not-so-great win over Namibia on Feb 23. But, they will have a turn-around from the England match on Feb 26 and will raise their game from then. Starting then, they will play well throughout the rest of the tournament. They even have some chance of winning the cup. (5) Pakistan: Their annual chart data is: August 6, 2002Time: 2:56:05Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 67 E 03' 00", 24 N 52' 00" They run Venus dasa till March 6 and Sun dasa from then. In D-10, Venus is the 5th lord and occupies lagna with 9th lord Saturn. He aspects GL too. But Venus is poorly placed from natal rasi Mercury. So Venus dasa is mixed, with more favorable results. Sun is the 3rd lord with 6th lord Mars and lagna lord Mercury, giving VRY in the 4th house in AL in D-10. Sun is well-placed from natal rasi Mercury in AV and he aspects GL in Pi in D-10. Overall, Sun dasa promises sporting success. Pakistan will do well throughout the tournament. They may have some disappointments in the initial rounds before March 6, but will raise their game in the super six stage. They are a very strong contender for the cup (strongest in the five teams considered here). They may atleast play in the semifinals and most probably in the finals too. [Note: I misjudged Pakistan's poor luck in the initial rounds. Venus dasa was not "mixed", but quite bad. They did not even make it to the next round to capitalize on the good period.] Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Catch all the cricket action. 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Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Though I am novice in astrology, I will suggest something. One more ting I would like to say, whom so ever predictited win of India, have they looked into the their chart/use horary methods to ascertain whether or not they can make correct prediction and do correct analysis. Regards, Sanjeev Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH Dear Deepak, That is why I asked at what time the match started in the local time of Johannesberg.If anybody gives me this data I will tell where all have gone wrong.But yesterday ,I made a rough chart for 10 AM of start of the Match starting in Johannesberg and it gave me Mesha Lagna which is in dwi dwasha with Our Indian Independence chart.So then I had a doubt on India's win.But I actually dont know the actual time .So I kept quiet.Of course we have to see so many other factors also. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. italic">Deepak Nair <superdeep (AT) glide (DOT) net.in> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> Dear Ramadas Rao, Then what was it that went wrong ? The only prediction that seemes to have gone right is that of Mr. Venkateshwara, who said that Sehwag Would be at his "vintage " best. 99 % astrologers had predicted India's win ! Does it mean that all their methods were an effort in futility ? This is not a test of Cricket strength - it is a test of the techniques of Vedic Astrology. I am certain ALL those who had predicted India's win will now resort to the excuse that they had overlooked one or the other inimical aspect/conjuction/transit but the point is - does it really hold water. I personally think we need a NEW VEDIC ASTROLOGY - One that is relevant to the Kaliyuga. Pardon me for being candid, but predictive astrology is NOT for determining the reasons for a certain event in retrospective, and if so, it is of no practical use! Deepak N. Original Message ----- margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> Ramadas Rao vedic astrology 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Sunday, March 23, 2003 font-family:Arial">12:22 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAH Dear Narasimha Rao ji, It is really a very good analysis.I also pray God that through Sachin's wonderful performance,India be victorious in this finals of World Cup. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. italic">"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> Namaste friends, Out of Australia and India, India has a better chance of winning the cup. I gave an analysis of the respective annual charts more than a month back (enclosed below). Out of the countries left in the fray, India has the best chance. There is only one player involved whose chart I know confidently - Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. So I will analyze his chances of doing well tomorrow, based on monthly Tithi pravesh chart. Birthdata: 24 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">April 24 1973, font-family:Arial">16:28 (IST), 73 E 00', 20 N 00' His Jan-Feb monthly TP chart is Arial">24 January 2003, Arial">11:52:15 In the Holland match that took place on Sukla Ekadasi tithi ruled by Mars, he did well - compiled a half-century - but the team did poorly. India still won, bur drew a lot of flak. In D-10 of the above monthly chart, Mars is in the 6th house from lagna and 3rd from AL and gave success to Sachin himself. But, being with retrograde Saturn and Ketu, he gave that success amid shakiness all around him. In the Australia match that took place on Sukla Chaturdasi tithi ruled by Venus, he top-scored in an Indian collapse with just 36. India lost badly. Venus, being a benefic in the 7th from AL, shows success of opponents. Being in the 9th from A6 also, he protects rivals. His tithi saw the victory of rivals. You can analyze all the matches like this. Now move on to the next monthly chart. His Feb-Mar monthly TP chart data: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">22 February 2003, font-family:Arial">19:53:42 (IST) In this chart, Venus stands out. In rasi, he is the 10th lord in 5th. In D-10, he is lagna lord in a quadrant and he is in AL. He is the dispositor of exalted Saturn and Ketu, who are very well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 3rd from AL. Based on all these, Arial">Sachin's best has to come on Shashthi/Chaturdasi tithis during the month (which will get over the day after the final). The only two matches scheduled on those tithis during the month are the Pakistan match on March 1 and the final tomorrow! In the former, Sachin came up with a bewitching performance against a top bowling attack. Though placed in AL, Jupiter is a bad planet. He is the 8th lord in rasi and dasamsa. If a functional malefic is placed in AL, he can affect the status negatively. On Jupiter's tithi, Sachin failed against Kenya in the supersixes match. Apart from Venus, another planet who stands out positively in D-10 is Saturn. He is yogakaraka in D-10 and is exalted in the 3rd from AL and 6th from lagna. During his tithi, Sachin came up with another master knock against Sri Lanka. My prediction is that color:red">Sachin will be at his vintage best tomorrow and do well quite like he did on March 1 against color:red">Pakistan color:red">. color:red">India color:red"> will win. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------- [From my mail of 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Feb 18, 2003] Predictions (1) Australia: Their annual chart data is: color:maroon"> January 14, 2003 color:maroon"> Time: 15:55:45 color:maroon"> Time Zone: color:maroon">10:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 144 E 58' 00", 37 S 49' 00" They run Mercury dasa till March 15 and start Saturn dasa then. In rasi chart, Mercury has 7 rekhas in AV. In D-10 also, he is strong with 6 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 33 rekhas in SAV. Mercury is the 5th lord from AL and well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 4th from AL (with malefic Mars). Mercury shows success. He is well-placed in Le from natal rasi Mercury. OTOH, Saturn is in the 8th house in D-10, in a sign with just 23 rekhas in SAV. Saturn dasa from March 15 will give a disappointment and not the world cup. Viv Richards wrote correctly that the defending champions may be peaking too early. Australia will do quite well until March 15, i.e. in the preliminary matches and in the super six stage. After March 15, they will face a disappointment. An off day will cost them the finals or even the semifinals perhaps. They may not win the cup. (2) South Africa: Their annual chart data is: color:maroon"> May 12, 2002 color:maroon"> Time: 4:17:40 color:maroon"> Time Zone: 0: color:maroon">00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 28 E 10' 00", 25 S 45' 00" They run Jupiter dasa throughout the tournament. Jupiter with 4 rekhas occupies the weakest sign in D-10 SAV (Sg with 21 rekhas). Though he is well-placed in the 2nd from D-10 with Moon, it only suggests showing good resources/infrastructure (2nd). In the 6th from AL with Moon, he does not promise victory. color:red">South Africa will do quite poorly and not succeed in keeping up the promise they showed coming into the tournament at home. They may not win the cup. (3) Sri Lanka: Their annual chart data is: color:maroon"> January 27, 2003 color:maroon"> Time: 3:31:23 color:maroon"> Time Zone: color:maroon">5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 79 E 52' 00", 6 N 56' 00" They run Moon dasa till March 7 and Mars dasa after that. Moon is strong in D-10 in own sign with 4 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 30 rekhas in SAV. He is in a quadrant from lagna and 2nd from AL (good placement - feeds image). He has argala on 3rd and 6th from lagna and aspects 5th lord. Moon dasa will be quite good. Mars, OTOH, is in the 8th house (albeit in an own sign). He has 3 in his AV and the sign has 28 in SAV. Mars dasa is not so favorable. color:red">Sri Lanka will do very well until March 7, i.e. in the preliminary rounds. They will run out of steam in the super six stage. They may not win the cup. (4) India: Their annual chart data is: color:maroon"> August 7, 2002 color:maroon"> Time: 5:25:52 color:maroon"> Time Zone: color:maroon">5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" Delhi color:maroon">, India They run Mars dasa till Feb 26 and start Mercury dasa on Feb 26 (just before the day/night match against England). In D-10, both Mars and Mercury are placed in AL, in the 3rd house from lagna, in a sign with 30 points. Mercury is stronger with 4 rekhas in his AV. Mars gives the results of Mercury and gives a mild and wavering performance. Mercury gives the results of yoga karaka Mars and gives an aggressive and confident performance and an aggressive image. color:red">India will do poorly and waver until Feb 26. They may prevail over Zimbabwe with difficulty on Feb 19 and have a not-so-great win over Namibia on Feb 23. But, they will have a turn-around from the England match on Feb 26 and will raise their game from then. Starting then, they will play well throughout the rest of the tournament. They even have some chance of winning the cup. (5) Pakistan: Their annual chart data is: color:maroon"> August 6, 2002 color:maroon"> Time: 2:56:05 color:maroon"> Time Zone: color:maroon">5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 67 E 03' 00", 24 N 52' 00" They run Venus dasa till March 6 and Sun dasa from then. In D-10, Venus is the 5th lord and occupies lagna with 9th lord Saturn. He aspects GL too. But Venus is poorly placed from natal rasi Mercury. So Venus dasa is mixed, with more favorable results. Sun is the 3rd lord with 6th lord Mars and lagna lord Mercury, giving VRY in the 4th house in AL in D-10. Sun is well-placed from natal rasi Mercury in AV and he aspects GL in Pi in D-10. Overall, Sun dasa promises sporting success. color:red">Pakistan will do well throughout the tournament. They may have some disappointments in the initial rounds before March 6, but will raise their game in the super six stage. They are a very strong contender for the cup (strongest in the five teams considered here). They may atleast play in the semifinals and most probably in the finals too. [Note: I misjudged Pakistan's poor luck in the initial rounds. Venus dasa was not "mixed", but quite bad. They did not even make it to the next round to capitalize on the good period.] Archives: vedic astrology To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || 10.0pt"> Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Archives: vedic astrology To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || 10.0pt"> Archives: vedic astrology To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || 10.0pt"> Catch all the cricket action. 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Guest guest Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 Namaste Listmembers, More Power to You Narasimbha, Thankyou for your effort and courage to 'put yourself out-there'. In Australia we have a chant, "have a go!", which is expressed with excuberance at all sporting matches!. India and Australia have a national love of cricket. It is a wonderful game that demands our attention and enthusiasm across all stratas of society. India is to be congratulated on a fine effort. There is no shame in losing a game or making an incorrect astrological prediction. If I had $1- for everytime I was wrong, I could comfortably retire!. ( My sister lives in Canberra. I told her she would be unharmed, but over the summer I warned her to avoid Government offices and installations, as I could see fires and explosions. My 'fear' was of terrorist attacks. As I am not 'all seeing, all knowing' her abusive call from the burning Capital gave me a chuckle. O.K, it was horrendous bush-fires; she was shaken and terrified but safe after all. hahaa ) Parashara's principles work. Our challenge remains in deciphering them. Here are Australia's details: 1st Jan 1901, 00.01am Melbourne Victoria ( 37S49 144E58 ) Asc 14Vi54. I still don't understand astrologically why Australia won!. Warm Regards, Ann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 Dear Ann, I find that Astro dienst gives the Time zone as 11 hrs. East of GMT. After applying this to the data the Ascendant comes 20 degrees and odd Leo. Again there is another chart of australia which shows time as 13.25. Could you tell which should be correct? Chandrashekhar. - Ann Murphy vedic astrology Cc: Ann Murphy Monday, March 24, 2003 3:07 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Cricket World Cup Final Namaste Listmembers, More Power to You Narasimbha, Thankyou for your effort and courage to 'put yourself out-there'. In Australia we have a chant, "have a go!", which is expressed with excuberance at all sporting matches!. India and Australia have a national love of cricket. It is a wonderful game that demands our attention and enthusiasm across all stratas of society. India is to be congratulated on a fine effort. There is no shame in losing a game or making an incorrect astrological prediction. If I had $1- for everytime I was wrong, I could comfortably retire!. ( My sister lives in Canberra. I told her she would be unharmed, but over the summer I warned her to avoid Government offices and installations, as I could see fires and explosions. My 'fear' was of terrorist attacks. As I am not 'all seeing, all knowing' her abusive call from the burning Capital gave me a chuckle. O.K, it was horrendous bush-fires; she was shaken and terrified but safe after all. hahaa ) Parashara's principles work. Our challenge remains in deciphering them. Here are Australia's details: 1st Jan 1901, 00.01am Melbourne Victoria ( 37S49 144E58 ) Asc 14Vi54. I still don't understand astrologically why Australia won!. Warm Regards, Ann. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 With due respect, I disagree to your idea i.e. predictive astrology has no meaning and there is a need for a new vedic astrology according to Kali Yug. I hold the notion "Astrologer may wrong but Astrology is perfect". No doubt nearly all Indian astrologers predicted for India's victory and Sachin's great performance. But alas it did not happen. This error divert our attention to see other face of the coin i.e. "Predictive Methodoly" (including accurate charts, tools, and assessment appraoch) and "Free Will". As India's win was forecasted by all astrologers of different school of astrological thought so it is like crying over spilt milk to discuss, ambiguity in birth charts, incorrect appraoch and confidence interval of applied predictive tools etc. Sincerely ask to yourself "Does Australia not deserve for World Champion?". This event says "free will" exists, at some extent. But at the same time, we either can not blame astrologers too. And even I do not have a right to raise finger on either Sri Narsimharo's or any other's prediction. They are our Gurus will remain. Either we debase any physician when he was not successful in a operations? Lots of bridges and buildings collapse, but we can not deny importance of engingeering and engineers. Many fatal accident are happens due to mistakes of experts drivers. In our shcool physics books, we study a rule, law of efficiency, which says no machine can yields 100% efficiency. Many phenomanas of daily lives can be proof mathematically on papers with the help of theorems. But in real lives there always be a margin of error, whatever is the task. One tends to 100% but can not eqauls to 100%, provided the unbiased experiment is repeated for a number of times. Thus Astrology is called Qualitative Science. I have and will have a firm belief on vedic astrology. Regards IMRAN Deepak Nair <superdeep (AT) glide (DOT) net.in> wrote: Dear Ramadas Rao, Then what was it that went wrong ? The only prediction that seemes to have gone right is that of Mr. Venkateshwara, who said that Sehwag Would be at his "vintage " best. 99 % astrologers had predicted India's win ! Does it mean that all their methods were an effort in futility ? This is not a test of Cricket strength - it is a test of the techniques of Vedic Astrology. I am certain ALL those who had predicted India's win will now resort to the excuse that they had overlooked one or the other inimical aspect/conjuction/transit but the point is - does it really hold water. I personally think we need a NEW VEDIC ASTROLOGY - One that is relevant to the Kaliyuga. Pardon me for being candid, but predictive astrology is NOT for determining the reasons for a certain event in retrospective, and if so, it is of no practical use! Deepak N. Original Message ----- Ramadas Rao vedic astrology Sunday, March 23, 2003 12:22 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAH Dear Narasimha Rao ji, It is really a very good analysis.I also pray God that through Sachin's wonderful performance,India be victorious in this finals of World Cup. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Namaste friends, Out of Australia and India, India has a better chance of winning the cup. I gave an analysis of the respective annual charts more than a month back (enclosed below). Out of the countries left in the fray, India has the best chance. There is only one player involved whose chart I know confidently - Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. So I will analyze his chances of doing well tomorrow, based on monthly Tithi pravesh chart. Birthdata: 24 April 24 1973, 16:28 (IST), 73 E 00', 20 N 00' His Jan-Feb monthly TP chart is 24 January 2003, 11:52:15 In the Holland match that took place on Sukla Ekadasi tithi ruled by Mars, he did well - compiled a half-century - but the team did poorly. India still won, bur drew a lot of flak. In D-10 of the above monthly chart, Mars is in the 6th house from lagna and 3rd from AL and gave success to Sachin himself. But, being with retrograde Saturn and Ketu, he gave that success amid shakiness all around him. In the Australia match that took place on Sukla Chaturdasi tithi ruled by Venus, he top-scored in an Indian collapse with just 36. India lost badly. Venus, being a benefic in the 7th from AL, shows success of opponents. Being in the 9th from A6 also, he protects rivals. His tithi saw the victory of rivals. You can analyze all the matches like this. Now move on to the next monthly chart. His Feb-Mar monthly TP chart data: 22 February 2003, 19:53:42 (IST) In this chart, Venus stands out. In rasi, he is the 10th lord in 5th. In D-10, he is lagna lord in a quadrant and he is in AL. He is the dispositor of exalted Saturn and Ketu, who are very well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 3rd from AL. Based on all these, Sachin's best has to come on Shashthi/Chaturdasi tithis during the month (which will get over the day after the final). The only two matches scheduled on those tithis during the month are the Pakistan match on March 1 and the final tomorrow! In the former, Sachin came up with a bewitching performance against a top bowling attack. Though placed in AL, Jupiter is a bad planet. He is the 8th lord in rasi and dasamsa. If a functional malefic is placed in AL, he can affect the status negatively. On Jupiter's tithi, Sachin failed against Kenya in the supersixes match. Apart from Venus, another planet who stands out positively in D-10 is Saturn. He is yogakaraka in D-10 and is exalted in the 3rd from AL and 6th from lagna. During his tithi, Sachin came up with another master knock against Sri Lanka. My prediction is that Sachin will be at his vintage best tomorrow and do well quite like he did on March 1 against Pakistan. India will win. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------- [From my mail of Feb 18, 2003] Predictions (1) Australia: Their annual chart data is: January 14, 2003Time: 15:55:45Time Zone: 10:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 144 E 58' 00", 37 S 49' 00" They run Mercury dasa till March 15 and start Saturn dasa then. In rasi chart, Mercury has 7 rekhas in AV. In D-10 also, he is strong with 6 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 33 rekhas in SAV. Mercury is the 5th lord from AL and well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 4th from AL (with malefic Mars). Mercury shows success. He is well-placed in Le from natal rasi Mercury. OTOH, Saturn is in the 8th house in D-10, in a sign with just 23 rekhas in SAV. Saturn dasa from March 15 will give a disappointment and not the world cup. Viv Richards wrote correctly that the defending champions may be peaking too early. Australia will do quite well until March 15, i.e. in the preliminary matches and in the super six stage. After March 15, they will face a disappointment. An off day will cost them the finals or even the semifinals perhaps. They may not win the cup. (2) South Africa: Their annual chart data is: May 12, 2002Time: 4:17:40Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 28 E 10' 00", 25 S 45' 00" They run Jupiter dasa throughout the tournament. Jupiter with 4 rekhas occupies the weakest sign in D-10 SAV (Sg with 21 rekhas). Though he is well-placed in the 2nd from D-10 with Moon, it only suggests showing good resources/infrastructure (2nd). In the 6th from AL with Moon, he does not promise victory. South Africa will do quite poorly and not succeed in keeping up the promise they showed coming into the tournament at home. They may not win the cup. (3) Sri Lanka: Their annual chart data is: January 27, 2003Time: 3:31:23Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 79 E 52' 00", 6 N 56' 00" They run Moon dasa till March 7 and Mars dasa after that. Moon is strong in D-10 in own sign with 4 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 30 rekhas in SAV. He is in a quadrant from lagna and 2nd from AL (good placement - feeds image). He has argala on 3rd and 6th from lagna and aspects 5th lord. Moon dasa will be quite good. Mars, OTOH, is in the 8th house (albeit in an own sign). He has 3 in his AV and the sign has 28 in SAV. Mars dasa is not so favorable. Sri Lanka will do very well until March 7, i.e. in the preliminary rounds. They will run out of steam in the super six stage. They may not win the cup. (4) India: Their annual chart data is: August 7, 2002Time: 5:25:52Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" Delhi, India They run Mars dasa till Feb 26 and start Mercury dasa on Feb 26 (just before the day/night match against England). In D-10, both Mars and Mercury are placed in AL, in the 3rd house from lagna, in a sign with 30 points. Mercury is stronger with 4 rekhas in his AV. Mars gives the results of Mercury and gives a mild and wavering performance. Mercury gives the results of yoga karaka Mars and gives an aggressive and confident performance and an aggressive image. India will do poorly and waver until Feb 26. They may prevail over Zimbabwe with difficulty on Feb 19 and have a not-so-great win over Namibia on Feb 23. But, they will have a turn-around from the England match on Feb 26 and will raise their game from then. Starting then, they will play well throughout the rest of the tournament. They even have some chance of winning the cup. (5) Pakistan: Their annual chart data is: August 6, 2002Time: 2:56:05Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 67 E 03' 00", 24 N 52' 00" They run Venus dasa till March 6 and Sun dasa from then. In D-10, Venus is the 5th lord and occupies lagna with 9th lord Saturn. He aspects GL too. But Venus is poorly placed from natal rasi Mercury. So Venus dasa is mixed, with more favorable results. Sun is the 3rd lord with 6th lord Mars and lagna lord Mercury, giving VRY in the 4th house in AL in D-10. Sun is well-placed from natal rasi Mercury in AV and he aspects GL in Pi in D-10. Overall, Sun dasa promises sporting success. Pakistan will do well throughout the tournament. They may have some disappointments in the initial rounds before March 6, but will raise their game in the super six stage. They are a very strong contender for the cup (strongest in the five teams considered here). They may atleast play in the semifinals and most probably in the finals too. [Note: I misjudged Pakistan's poor luck in the initial rounds. Venus dasa was not "mixed", but quite bad. They did not even make it to the next round to capitalize on the good period.] Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Do you ? News - Today's headlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 Hello, What you have said is really very well and concise. Moreover, we have to remember that making prediction is an ART, even in engeneering and physics, there are more straight-forward and clear rules than astrology even then they fail sometimes, so why may not astrologers make errors? We will always be debtful to Narasima Jee and other gurus here. One question came to my mind, that may be we can consider the time as the birth time when Indian CRICKET COUNCIL / BOARD was created? Regards, Tanvir "What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine." Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - Muhammad Imran vedic astrology Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:24 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final Dear List & Deepak, With due respect, I disagree to your idea i.e. predictive astrology has no meaning and there is a need for a new vedic astrology according to Kali Yug. I hold the notion "Astrologer may wrong but Astrology is perfect". No doubt nearly all Indian astrologers predicted for India's victory and Sachin's great performance. But alas it did not happen. This error divert our attention to see other face of the coin i.e. "Predictive Methodoly" (including accurate charts, tools, and assessment appraoch) and "Free Will". As India's win was forecasted by all astrologers of different school of astrological thought so it is like crying over spilt milk to discuss, ambiguity in birth charts, incorrect appraoch and confidence interval of applied predictive tools etc. Sincerely ask to yourself "Does Australia not deserve for World Champion?". This event says "free will" exists, at some extent. But at the same time, we either can not blame astrologers too. And even I do not have a right to raise finger on either Sri Narsimharo's or any other's prediction. They are our Gurus will remain. Either we debase any physician when he was not successful in a operations? Lots of bridges and buildings collapse, but we can not deny importance of engingeering and engineers. Many fatal accident are happens due to mistakes of experts drivers. In our shcool physics books, we study a rule, law of efficiency, which says no machine can yields 100% efficiency. Many phenomanas of daily lives can be proof mathematically on papers with the help of theorems. But in real lives there always be a margin of error, whatever is the task. One tends to 100% but can not eqauls to 100%, provided the unbiased experiment is repeated for a number of times. Thus Astrology is called Qualitative Science. I have and will have a firm belief on vedic astrology. Regards IMRAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 I HAVE BEEN READING WITH GREAT INTEREST THE PREDICTIONS ON WORLD CUP CRICKET. THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE PREDICTION FOR AN AUSTRALIAN WIN !!! IT WAS INDIA, NEW ZEALAND AND EVEN SRI LANKA BUT NO AUSTRALIA. WHERE DID WE GO WRONG?? CAN WE NOW IN RETROSPECT FIND OUT WHY AUSTRALIA WON?? AND WHY INDIA DID SO BADLY?? WHICH IS DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSITE TO THE PREDICTED PERFORMANCE OF INDIA?? SRINIVASAN Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Ann, I find that Astro dienst gives the Time zone as 11 hrs. East of GMT. After applying this to the data the Ascendant comes 20 degrees and odd Leo. Again there is another chart of australia which shows time as 13.25. Could you tell which should be correct? Chandrashekhar. - Ann Murphy vedic astrology Cc: Ann Murphy Monday, March 24, 2003 3:07 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Cricket World Cup Final Namaste Listmembers, More Power to You Narasimbha, Thankyou for your effort and courage to 'put yourself out-there'. In Australia we have a chant, "have a go!", which is expressed with excuberance at all sporting matches!. India and Australia have a national love of cricket. It is a wonderful game that demands our attention and enthusiasm across all stratas of society. India is to be congratulated on a fine effort. There is no shame in losing a game or making an incorrect astrological prediction. If I had $1- for everytime I was wrong, I could comfortably retire!. ( My sister lives in Canberra. I told her she would be unharmed, but over the summer I warned her to avoid Government offices and installations, as I could see fires and explosions. My 'fear' was of terrorist attacks. As I am not 'all seeing, all knowing' her abusive call from the burning Capital gave me a chuckle. O.K, it was horrendous bush-fires; she was shaken and terrified but safe after all. hahaa ) Parashara's principles work. Our challenge remains in deciphering them. Here are Australia's details: 1st Jan 1901, 00.01am Melbourne Victoria ( 37S49 144E58 ) Asc 14Vi54. I still don't understand astrologically why Australia won!. Warm Regards, Ann. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2003 Report Share Posted March 25, 2003 Dear Deepak, Of course we have to look to the dasa and antara of the particular country's independence chart and or horary chart or the time of starting of the event also.This helps more With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Sanjeev Trehan <strehan (AT) gail (DOT) co.in> wrote: Though I am novice in astrology, I will suggest something. One more ting I would like to say, whom so ever predictited win of India, have they looked into the their chart/use horary methods to ascertain whether or not they can make correct prediction and do correct analysis. Regards, Sanjeev Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH Dear Deepak, That is why I asked at what time the match started in the local time of Johannesberg.If anybody gives me this data I will tell where all have gone wrong.But yesterday ,I made a rough chart for 10 AM of start of the Match starting in Johannesberg and it gave me Mesha Lagna which is in dwi dwasha with Our Indian Independence chart.So then I had a doubt on India's win.But I actually dont know the actual time .So I kept quiet.Of course we have to see so many other factors also. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Deepak Nair <superdeep (AT) glide (DOT) net.in> wrote: Dear Ramadas Rao, Then what was it that went wrong ? The only prediction that seemes to have gone right is that of Mr. Venkateshwara, who said that Sehwag Would be at his "vintage " best. 99 % astrologers had predicted India's win ! Does it mean that all their methods were an effort in futility ? This is not a test of Cricket strength - it is a test of the techniques of Vedic Astrology. I am certain ALL those who had predicted India's win will now resort to the excuse that they had overlooked one or the other inimical aspect/conjuction/transit but the point is - does it really hold water. I personally think we need a NEW VEDIC ASTROLOGY - One that is relevant to the Kaliyuga. Pardon me for being candid, but predictive astrology is NOT for determining the reasons for a certain event in retrospective, and if so, it is of no practical use! Deepak N. Original Message ----- Ramadas Rao vedic astrology Sunday, March 23, 2003 12:22 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAH Dear Narasimha Rao ji, It is really a very good analysis.I also pray God that through Sachin's wonderful performance,India be victorious in this finals of World Cup. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Namaste friends, Out of Australia and India, India has a better chance of winning the cup. I gave an analysis of the respective annual charts more than a month back (enclosed below). Out of the countries left in the fray, India has the best chance. There is only one player involved whose chart I know confidently - Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. So I will analyze his chances of doing well tomorrow, based on monthly Tithi pravesh chart. Birthdata: 24 April 24 1973, 16:28 (IST), 73 E 00', 20 N 00' His Jan-Feb monthly TP chart is 24 January 2003, 11:52:15 In the Holland match that took place on Sukla Ekadasi tithi ruled by Mars, he did well - compiled a half-century - but the team did poorly. India still won, bur drew a lot of flak. In D-10 of the above monthly chart, Mars is in the 6th house from lagna and 3rd from AL and gave success to Sachin himself. But, being with retrograde Saturn and Ketu, he gave that success amid shakiness all around him. In the Australia match that took place on Sukla Chaturdasi tithi ruled by Venus, he top-scored in an Indian collapse with just 36. India lost badly. Venus, being a benefic in the 7th from AL, shows success of opponents. Being in the 9th from A6 also, he protects rivals. His tithi saw the victory of rivals. You can analyze all the matches like this. Now move on to the next monthly chart. His Feb-Mar monthly TP chart data: 22 February 2003, 19:53:42 (IST) In this chart, Venus stands out. In rasi, he is the 10th lord in 5th. In D-10, he is lagna lord in a quadrant and he is in AL. He is the dispositor of exalted Saturn and Ketu, who are very well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 3rd from AL. Based on all these, Sachin's best has to come on Shashthi/Chaturdasi tithis during the month (which will get over the day after the final). The only two matches scheduled on those tithis during the month are the Pakistan match on March 1 and the final tomorrow! In the former, Sachin came up with a bewitching performance against a top bowling attack. Though placed in AL, Jupiter is a bad planet. He is the 8th lord in rasi and dasamsa. If a functional malefic is placed in AL, he can affect the status negatively. On Jupiter's tithi, Sachin failed against Kenya in the supersixes match. Apart from Venus, another planet who stands out positively in D-10 is Saturn. He is yogakaraka in D-10 and is exalted in the 3rd from AL and 6th from lagna. During his tithi, Sachin came up with another master knock against Sri Lanka. My prediction is that Sachin will be at his vintage best tomorrow and do well quite like he did on March 1 against Pakistan. India will win. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------- [From my mail of Feb 18, 2003] Predictions (1) Australia: Their annual chart data is: January 14, 2003Time: 15:55:45Time Zone: 10:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 144 E 58' 00", 37 S 49' 00" They run Mercury dasa till March 15 and start Saturn dasa then. In rasi chart, Mercury has 7 rekhas in AV. In D-10 also, he is strong with 6 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 33 rekhas in SAV. Mercury is the 5th lord from AL and well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 4th from AL (with malefic Mars). Mercury shows success. He is well-placed in Le from natal rasi Mercury. OTOH, Saturn is in the 8th house in D-10, in a sign with just 23 rekhas in SAV. Saturn dasa from March 15 will give a disappointment and not the world cup. Viv Richards wrote correctly that the defending champions may be peaking too early. Australia will do quite well until March 15, i.e. in the preliminary matches and in the super six stage. After March 15, they will face a disappointment. An off day will cost them the finals or even the semifinals perhaps. They may not win the cup. (2) South Africa: Their annual chart data is: May 12, 2002Time: 4:17:40Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 28 E 10' 00", 25 S 45' 00" They run Jupiter dasa throughout the tournament. Jupiter with 4 rekhas occupies the weakest sign in D-10 SAV (Sg with 21 rekhas). Though he is well-placed in the 2nd from D-10 with Moon, it only suggests showing good resources/infrastructure (2nd). In the 6th from AL with Moon, he does not promise victory. South Africa will do quite poorly and not succeed in keeping up the promise they showed coming into the tournament at home. They may not win the cup. (3) Sri Lanka: Their annual chart data is: January 27, 2003Time: 3:31:23Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 79 E 52' 00", 6 N 56' 00" They run Moon dasa till March 7 and Mars dasa after that. Moon is strong in D-10 in own sign with 4 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 30 rekhas in SAV. He is in a quadrant from lagna and 2nd from AL (good placement - feeds image). He has argala on 3rd and 6th from lagna and aspects 5th lord. Moon dasa will be quite good. Mars, OTOH, is in the 8th house (albeit in an own sign). He has 3 in his AV and the sign has 28 in SAV. Mars dasa is not so favorable. Sri Lanka will do very well until March 7, i.e. in the preliminary rounds. They will run out of steam in the super six stage. They may not win the cup. (4) India: Their annual chart data is: August 7, 2002Time: 5:25:52Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" Delhi, India They run Mars dasa till Feb 26 and start Mercury dasa on Feb 26 (just before the day/night match against England). In D-10, both Mars and Mercury are placed in AL, in the 3rd house from lagna, in a sign with 30 points. Mercury is stronger with 4 rekhas in his AV. Mars gives the results of Mercury and gives a mild and wavering performance. Mercury gives the results of yoga karaka Mars and gives an aggressive and confident performance and an aggressive image. India will do poorly and waver until Feb 26. They may prevail over Zimbabwe with difficulty on Feb 19 and have a not-so-great win over Namibia on Feb 23. But, they will have a turn-around from the England match on Feb 26 and will raise their game from then. Starting then, they will play well throughout the rest of the tournament. They even have some chance of winning the cup. (5) Pakistan: Their annual chart data is: August 6, 2002Time: 2:56:05Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 67 E 03' 00", 24 N 52' 00" They run Venus dasa till March 6 and Sun dasa from then. In D-10, Venus is the 5th lord and occupies lagna with 9th lord Saturn. He aspects GL too. But Venus is poorly placed from natal rasi Mercury. So Venus dasa is mixed, with more favorable results. Sun is the 3rd lord with 6th lord Mars and lagna lord Mercury, giving VRY in the 4th house in AL in D-10. Sun is well-placed from natal rasi Mercury in AV and he aspects GL in Pi in D-10. Overall, Sun dasa promises sporting success. Pakistan will do well throughout the tournament. They may have some disappointments in the initial rounds before March 6, but will raise their game in the super six stage. They are a very strong contender for the cup (strongest in the five teams considered here). They may atleast play in the semifinals and most probably in the finals too. [Note: I misjudged Pakistan's poor luck in the initial rounds. Venus dasa was not "mixed", but quite bad. They did not even make it to the next round to capitalize on the good period.] Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Catch all the cricket action. 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Guest guest Posted March 25, 2003 Report Share Posted March 25, 2003 Hello Everyone, I am posting message on this group first time only though I am a regular member of Lal Kitab and group. The cricket world cup final predictions attracted me towards this group. So have something to say. It is surprising that nearly all the predictions regarding world cup final failed. I was watching TV from 7 AM morning and listened nearly all predictions of popular astrologers in India and none of them was even close to truth. Predictions in this group is also no different. With due respect to those entire astrologers, I want to tell my opinion of failing. There are two popular methods for this type of predictions. One is horoscope of country and other is horary astrology. My experience says that one cannot predict accurately using any of this method. Like most of the astrologers I discusses and researched a lot on both the methods. I think the horary astrology method is best out of both. But the problem with this method is the question must be asked by the person who has direct relation with the event. For example if Ganguly or Sachin would have asked whether Indian team will win or not, I can say for sure that we would have got 100% accurate results. But if the person asking the question don't have direct relation with the event most of the time this type of analysis fails. I am reached to this conclusion after analyzing many horary charts. The other method i.e. the horoscope of nation also not sounds convincing. My reason behind that is on the same day Vishwanathan Anand may win in Chess and India losses in cricket. So it is very- very difficult to analyze from nations horoscope from the perspective of any individual horoscope. You can know easily what will be condition of sports in India during this time. You can have overall view but it is not easy to know the result of particular sport. For example if the horoscope of India is good from games/sports point of view, Vishwanathan Anand might win in the chess tournament (as India has already lost in world cup). I am waiting for opinion of all experts. Respectfully, Punit Pandey vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH > Dear Deepak, > Of course we have to look to the dasa and antara of the particular country's independence chart and or horary chart or the time of starting of the event also.This helps more > With best regards, > Ramadas Rao. > Sanjeev Trehan <strehan@g...> wrote: > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } > Though I am novice in astrology, I will suggest something. > > > > One more ting I would like to say, whom so ever predictited win of India, have they looked into the their chart/use horary methods to ascertain whether or not they can make correct prediction and do correct analysis. > > > > Regards, > > Sanjeev > > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final > > > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH > > Dear Deepak, > > That is why I asked at what time the match started in the local time of Johannesberg.If anybody gives me this data I will tell where all have gone wrong.But yesterday ,I made a rough chart for 10 AM of start of the Match starting in Johannesberg and it gave me Mesha Lagna which is in dwi dwasha with Our Indian Independence chart.So then I had a doubt on India's win.But I actually dont know the actual time .So I kept quiet.Of course we have to see so many other factors also. > > With best regards, > > Ramadas Rao. > > Deepak Nair <superdeep@g...> wrote: > > Dear Ramadas Rao, > > > > Then what was it that went wrong ? > > > > The only prediction that seemes to have gone right is that of Mr. Venkateshwara, who said that Sehwag Would be at his "vintage " best. > > > > 99 % astrologers had predicted India's win ! > > Does it mean that all their methods were an effort in futility ? > > > > This is not a test of Cricket strength - it is a test of the techniques of Vedic Astrology. > > > > I am certain ALL those who had predicted India's win will now resort to the excuse that they had overlooked one or the other inimical aspect/conjuction/transit but the point is - does it really hold water. I personally think we need a NEW VEDIC ASTROLOGY - One that is relevant to the Kaliyuga. > > > > Pardon me for being candid, but predictive astrology is NOT for determining the reasons for a certain event in retrospective, and if so, it is of no practical use! > > > > Deepak N. > > > > Original Message ----- > > Ramadas Rao > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, March 23, 2003 12:22 AM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final > > > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAH > > Dear Narasimha Rao ji, > > It is really a very good analysis.I also pray God that through Sachin's wonderful performance,India be victorious in this finals of World Cup. > > With best regards, > > Ramadas Rao. > > "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: > > Namaste friends, > > > > Out of Australia and India, India has a better chance of winning the cup. I gave an analysis of the respective annual charts more than a month back (enclosed below). Out of the countries left in the fray, India has the best chance. > > > > There is only one player involved whose chart I know confidently - Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. So I will analyze his chances of doing well tomorrow, based on monthly Tithi pravesh chart. > > > > Birthdata: 24 April 24 1973, 16:28 (IST), 73 E 00', 20 N 00' > > > His Jan-Feb monthly TP chart is 24 January 2003, 11:52:15 > > In the Holland match that took place on Sukla Ekadasi tithi ruled by Mars, he did well - compiled a half-century - but the team did poorly. India still won, bur drew a lot of flak. In D-10 of the above monthly chart, Mars is in the 6th house from lagna and 3rd from AL and gave success to Sachin himself. But, being with retrograde Saturn and Ketu, he gave that success amid shakiness all around him. > > > > In the Australia match that took place on Sukla Chaturdasi tithi ruled by Venus, he top-scored in an Indian collapse with just 36. India lost badly. Venus, being a benefic in the 7th from AL, shows success of opponents. Being in the 9th from A6 also, he protects rivals. His tithi saw the victory of rivals. > > > > You can analyze all the matches like this. Now move on to the next monthly chart. > > > > His Feb-Mar monthly TP chart data: 22 February 2003, 19:53:42 (IST) > > > > In this chart, Venus stands out. In rasi, he is the 10th lord in 5th. In D-10, he is lagna lord in a quadrant and he is in AL. He is the dispositor of exalted Saturn and Ketu, who are very well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 3rd from AL. Based on all these, Sachin's best has to come on Shashthi/Chaturdasi tithis during the month (which will get over the day after the final). The only two matches scheduled on those tithis during the month are the Pakistan match on March 1 and the final tomorrow! In the former, Sachin came up with a bewitching performance against a top bowling attack. > > > > Though placed in AL, Jupiter is a bad planet. He is the 8th lord in rasi and dasamsa. If a functional malefic is placed in AL, he can affect the status negatively. On Jupiter's tithi, Sachin failed against Kenya in the supersixes match. > > > > Apart from Venus, another planet who stands out positively in D-10 is Saturn. He is yogakaraka in D-10 and is exalted in the 3rd from AL and 6th from lagna. During his tithi, Sachin came up with another master knock against Sri Lanka. > > > > My prediction is that Sachin will be at his vintage best tomorrow and do well quite like he did on March 1 against Pakistan. India will win. > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha > > ------------------- > > [From my mail of Feb 18, 2003] > > > > Predictions > > > > (1) Australia: Their annual chart data is: > > > > January 14, 2003 > Time: 15:55:45 > Time Zone: 10:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 144 E 58' 00", 37 S 49' 00" > > > > They run Mercury dasa till March 15 and start Saturn dasa then. > > > > In rasi chart, Mercury has 7 rekhas in AV. In D-10 also, he is strong with 6 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 33 rekhas in SAV. Mercury is the 5th lord from AL and well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 4th from AL (with malefic Mars). Mercury shows success. He is well-placed in Le from natal rasi Mercury. > > > > OTOH, Saturn is in the 8th house in D-10, in a sign with just 23 rekhas in SAV. Saturn dasa from March 15 will give a disappointment and not the world cup. > > > > Viv Richards wrote correctly that the defending champions may be peaking too early. Australia will do quite well until March 15, i.e. in the preliminary matches and in the super six stage. After March 15, they will face a disappointment. An off day will cost them the finals or even the semifinals perhaps. They may not win the cup. > > > > (2) South Africa: Their annual chart data is: > > > > May 12, 2002 > Time: 4:17:40 > Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 28 E 10' 00", 25 S 45' 00" > > > > They run Jupiter dasa throughout the tournament. Jupiter with 4 rekhas occupies the weakest sign in D-10 SAV (Sg with 21 rekhas). Though he is well-placed in the 2nd from D-10 with Moon, it only suggests showing good resources/infrastructure (2nd). In the 6th from AL with Moon, he does not promise victory. > > > > South Africa will do quite poorly and not succeed in keeping up the promise they showed coming into the tournament at home. They may not win the cup. > > > > (3) Sri Lanka: Their annual chart data is: > > > > January 27, 2003 > Time: 3:31:23 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 79 E 52' 00", 6 N 56' 00" > > > > They run Moon dasa till March 7 and Mars dasa after that. > > > > Moon is strong in D-10 in own sign with 4 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 30 rekhas in SAV. He is in a quadrant from lagna and 2nd from AL (good placement - feeds image). He has argala on 3rd and 6th from lagna and aspects 5th lord. Moon dasa will be quite good. > > > > Mars, OTOH, is in the 8th house (albeit in an own sign). He has 3 in his AV and the sign has 28 in SAV. Mars dasa is not so favorable. > > > > Sri Lanka will do very well until March 7, i.e. in the preliminary rounds. They will run out of steam in the super six stage. They may not win the cup. > > > > (4) India: Their annual chart data is: > > > > August 7, 2002 > Time: 5:25:52 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" > Delhi, India > > They run Mars dasa till Feb 26 and start Mercury dasa on Feb 26 (just before the day/night match against England). > > > > In D-10, both Mars and Mercury are placed in AL, in the 3rd house from lagna, in a sign with 30 points. Mercury is stronger with 4 rekhas in his AV. Mars gives the results of Mercury and gives a mild and wavering performance. Mercury gives the results of yoga karaka Mars and gives an aggressive and confident performance and an aggressive image. > > > > India will do poorly and waver until Feb 26. They may prevail over Zimbabwe with difficulty on Feb 19 and have a not-so-great win over Namibia on Feb 23. But, they will have a turn-around from the England match on Feb 26 and will raise their game from then. Starting then, they will play well throughout the rest of the tournament. They even have some chance of winning the cup. > > > > (5) Pakistan: Their annual chart data is: > > > > August 6, 2002 > Time: 2:56:05 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 67 E 03' 00", 24 N 52' 00" > > They run Venus dasa till March 6 and Sun dasa from then. > > > > In D-10, Venus is the 5th lord and occupies lagna with 9th lord Saturn. He aspects GL too. But Venus is poorly placed from natal rasi Mercury. So Venus dasa is mixed, with more favorable results. > > > > Sun is the 3rd lord with 6th lord Mars and lagna lord Mercury, giving VRY in the 4th house in AL in D-10. Sun is well-placed from natal rasi Mercury in AV and he aspects GL in Pi in D-10. Overall, Sun dasa promises sporting success. > > > > Pakistan will do well throughout the tournament. They may have some disappointments in the initial rounds before March 6, but will raise their game in the super six stage. They are a very strong contender for the cup (strongest in the five teams considered here). They may atleast play in the semifinals and most probably in the finals too. > > > > [Note: I misjudged Pakistan's poor luck in the initial rounds. Venus dasa was not "mixed", but quite bad. They did not even make it to the next round to capitalize on the good period.] > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 25, 2003 Report Share Posted March 25, 2003 Thanks for opinion. I fully agree that the horoscope of captain and individual players can help. I have another method of predicting results of such matches. I found it very very convincing. It can be called statistical method. According to me the best method is to collect the data of last few year's match and check when India wins and when lost. By just checking the Nakshatra, I came closer to 60-80% percent accuracy. For example I predicted that the Ganguly will perform better after super sixes and I predicted this just because Ganguly has very good Jupiter, Sun was passing through Jupiter's Nakshatra during this period (around 5th to 18th march). Sachin has very good Rahu and Sun was passing through Rahu's Nakshatra before 5th march and we all know his performance in league match whereas Ganguly's performance improved only after League matches. I guess that both of these players don't have good Saturn hence the performance in Final. I concluded that the Sachin has good Rahu, Ganguly has good Jupiter etc. on the basis of their past performances statistically not on the based of horoscope and I see whenever there is Rahu as ruling planet of day, Sachin's performance improves. I think this statistical method is one of the best methods available for these types of predictions. Waiting for opinion of all members. Finally I want to say that this group is best for Vedic Astrology discussion. Thanks to all in advance. Punit Pandey Sanjay Rath <vyasa (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ~Om Gurave Namah~Dear Puneet That is a good point of view. Consider this: Is it not in India's destiny that Vishwanathan anand wins chess and the cricket team fails. Can we see this and what tools do we have is the question? The available tools known limit this very much but this is not impossible and is what pushes us to study further. The present method of studying individual charts as well that of the captain is the right method just as the chart of the king of a country is studies for the outcome of a war. Best wishes & have a nice day,Sanjay Rath -----H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar - 751014, India SJC Web pages: http://.orgPersonal Web: http://srath.com Tel: +91-674-243 6781----- - Punit Pandey vedic astrology Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:14 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Cricket World Cup Final Hello Everyone,I am posting message on this group first time only though I am a regular member of Lal Kitab and group. The cricket world cup final predictions attracted me towards this group. So have something to say.It is surprising that nearly all the predictions regarding world cup final failed. I was watching TV from 7 AM morning and listened nearly all predictions of popular astrologers in India and none of them was even close to truth. Predictions in this group is also no different. With due respect to those entire astrologers, I want to tell my opinion of failing.There are two popular methods for this type of predictions. One is horoscope of country and other is horary astrology. My experience says that one cannot predict accurately using any of this method. Like most of the astrologers I discusses and researched a lot on both the methods. I think the horary astrology method is best out of both. But the problem with this method is the question must be asked by the person who has direct relation with the event. For example if Ganguly or Sachin would have asked whether Indian team will win or not, I can say for sure that we would have got 100% accurate results. But if the person asking the question don't have direct relation with the event most of the time this type of analysis fails. I am reached to this conclusion after analyzing many horary charts. The other method i.e. the horoscope of nation also not sounds convincing. My reason behind that is on the same day Vishwanathan Anand may win in Chess and India losses in cricket. So it is very-very difficult to analyze from nations horoscope from the perspective of any individual horoscope. You can know easily what will be condition of sports in India during this time. You can have overall view but it is not easy to know the result of particular sport. For example if the horoscope of India is good from games/sports point of view, Vishwanathan Anand might win in the chess tournament (as India has already lost in world cup). I am waiting for opinion of all experts.Respectfully,Punit Pandeyvedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH> Dear Deepak,> Of course we have to look to the dasa and antara of the particular country's independence chart and or horary chart or the time of starting of the event also.This helps more> With best regards,> Ramadas Rao.> Sanjeev Trehan <strehan@g...> wrote:> > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }> Though I am novice in astrology, I will suggest something.> > > > One more ting I would like to say, whom so ever predictited win of India, have they looked into the their chart/use horary methods to ascertain whether or not they can make correct prediction and do correct analysis.> > > > Regards,> > Sanjeev> > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final> > > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH > > Dear Deepak, > > That is why I asked at what time the match started in the local time of Johannesberg.If anybody gives me this data I will tell where all have gone wrong.But yesterday ,I made a rough chart for 10 AM of start of the Match starting in Johannesberg and it gave me Mesha Lagna which is in dwi dwasha with Our Indian Independence chart.So then I had a doubt on India's win.But I actually dont know the actual time .So I kept quiet.Of course we have to see so many other factors also. > > With best regards, > > Ramadas Rao. > > Deepak Nair <superdeep@g...> wrote: > > Dear Ramadas Rao,> > > > Then what was it that went wrong ?> > > > The only prediction that seemes to have gone right is that of Mr. Venkateshwara, who said that Sehwag Would be at his "vintage " best.> > > > 99 % astrologers had predicted India's win !> > Does it mean that all their methods were an effort in futility ?> > > > This is not a test of Cricket strength - it is a test of the techniques of Vedic Astrology.> > > > I am certain ALL those who had predicted India's win will now resort to the excuse that they had overlooked one or the other inimical aspect/conjuction/transit but the point is - does it really hold water. I personally think we need a NEW VEDIC ASTROLOGY - One that is relevant to the Kaliyuga. > > > > Pardon me for being candid, but predictive astrology is NOT for determining the reasons for a certain event in retrospective, and if so, it is of no practical use!> > > > Deepak N.> > > > Original Message ----- > > Ramadas Rao > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, March 23, 2003 12:22 AM> > Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final> > > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAH > > Dear Narasimha Rao ji, > > It is really a very good analysis.I also pray God that through Sachin's wonderful performance,India be victorious in this finals of World Cup. > > With best regards, > > Ramadas Rao. > > "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: > > Namaste friends,> > > > Out of Australia and India, India has a better chance of winning the cup. I gave an analysis of the respective annual charts more than a month back (enclosed below). Out of the countries left in the fray, India has the best chance.> > > > There is only one player involved whose chart I know confidently - Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. So I will analyze his chances of doing well tomorrow, based on monthly Tithi pravesh chart.> > > > Birthdata: 24 April 24 1973, 16:28 (IST), 73 E 00', 20 N 00'> > > His Jan-Feb monthly TP chart is 24 January 2003, 11:52:15> > In the Holland match that took place on Sukla Ekadasi tithi ruled by Mars, he did well - compiled a half-century - but the team did poorly. India still won, bur drew a lot of flak. In D-10 of the above monthly chart, Mars is in the 6th house from lagna and 3rd from AL and gave success to Sachin himself. But, being with retrograde Saturn and Ketu, he gave that success amid shakiness all around him.> > > > In the Australia match that took place on Sukla Chaturdasi tithi ruled by Venus, he top-scored in an Indian collapse with just 36. India lost badly. Venus, being a benefic in the 7th from AL, shows success of opponents. Being in the 9th from A6 also, he protects rivals. His tithi saw the victory of rivals.> > > > You can analyze all the matches like this. Now move on to the next monthly chart.> > > > His Feb-Mar monthly TP chart data: 22 February 2003, 19:53:42 (IST)> > > > In this chart, Venus stands out. In rasi, he is the 10th lord in 5th. In D-10, he is lagna lord in a quadrant and he is in AL. He is the dispositor of exalted Saturn and Ketu, who are very well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 3rd from AL. Based on all these, Sachin's best has to come on Shashthi/Chaturdasi tithis during the month (which will get over the day after the final). The only two matches scheduled on those tithis during the month are the Pakistan match on March 1 and the final tomorrow! In the former, Sachin came up with a bewitching performance against a top bowling attack.> > > > Though placed in AL, Jupiter is a bad planet. He is the 8th lord in rasi and dasamsa. If a functional malefic is placed in AL, he can affect the status negatively. On Jupiter's tithi, Sachin failed against Kenya in the supersixes match.> > > > Apart from Venus, another planet who stands out positively in D-10 is Saturn. He is yogakaraka in D-10 and is exalted in the 3rd from AL and 6th from lagna. During his tithi, Sachin came up with another master knock against Sri Lanka.> > > > My prediction is that Sachin will be at his vintage best tomorrow and do well quite like he did on March 1 against Pakistan. India will win.> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> > Narasimha> > -------------------> > [From my mail of Feb 18, 2003]> > > > Predictions> > > > (1) Australia: Their annual chart data is:> > > > January 14, 2003> Time: 15:55:45> Time Zone: 10:00:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 144 E 58' 00", 37 S 49' 00"> > > > They run Mercury dasa till March 15 and start Saturn dasa then.> > > > In rasi chart, Mercury has 7 rekhas in AV. In D-10 also, he is strong with 6 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 33 rekhas in SAV. Mercury is the 5th lord from AL and well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 4th from AL (with malefic Mars). Mercury shows success. He is well-placed in Le from natal rasi Mercury.> > > > OTOH, Saturn is in the 8th house in D-10, in a sign with just 23 rekhas in SAV. Saturn dasa from March 15 will give a disappointment and not the world cup.> > > > Viv Richards wrote correctly that the defending champions may be peaking too early. Australia will do quite well until March 15, i.e. in the preliminary matches and in the super six stage. After March 15, they will face a disappointment. An off day will cost them the finals or even the semifinals perhaps. They may not win the cup.> > > > (2) South Africa: Their annual chart data is:> > > > May 12, 2002> Time: 4:17:40> Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT)> Place: 28 E 10' 00", 25 S 45' 00"> > > > They run Jupiter dasa throughout the tournament. Jupiter with 4 rekhas occupies the weakest sign in D-10 SAV (Sg with 21 rekhas). Though he is well-placed in the 2nd from D-10 with Moon, it only suggests showing good resources/infrastructure (2nd). In the 6th from AL with Moon, he does not promise victory.> > > > South Africa will do quite poorly and not succeed in keeping up the promise they showed coming into the tournament at home. They may not win the cup.> > > > (3) Sri Lanka: Their annual chart data is:> > > > January 27, 2003> Time: 3:31:23> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 79 E 52' 00", 6 N 56' 00"> > > > They run Moon dasa till March 7 and Mars dasa after that.> > > > Moon is strong in D-10 in own sign with 4 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 30 rekhas in SAV. He is in a quadrant from lagna and 2nd from AL (good placement - feeds image). He has argala on 3rd and 6th from lagna and aspects 5th lord. Moon dasa will be quite good.> > > > Mars, OTOH, is in the 8th house (albeit in an own sign). He has 3 in his AV and the sign has 28 in SAV. Mars dasa is not so favorable.> > > > Sri Lanka will do very well until March 7, i.e. in the preliminary rounds. They will run out of steam in the super six stage. They may not win the cup.> > > > (4) India: Their annual chart data is:> > > > August 7, 2002> Time: 5:25:52> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00"> Delhi, India> > They run Mars dasa till Feb 26 and start Mercury dasa on Feb 26 (just before the day/night match against England).> > > > In D-10, both Mars and Mercury are placed in AL, in the 3rd house from lagna, in a sign with 30 points. Mercury is stronger with 4 rekhas in his AV. Mars gives the results of Mercury and gives a mild and wavering performance. Mercury gives the results of yoga karaka Mars and gives an aggressive and confident performance and an aggressive image.> > > > India will do poorly and waver until Feb 26. They may prevail over Zimbabwe with difficulty on Feb 19 and have a not-so-great win over Namibia on Feb 23. But, they will have a turn-around from the England match on Feb 26 and will raise their game from then. Starting then, they will play well throughout the rest of the tournament. They even have some chance of winning the cup.> > > > (5) Pakistan: Their annual chart data is:> > > > August 6, 2002> Time: 2:56:05> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 67 E 03' 00", 24 N 52' 00"> > They run Venus dasa till March 6 and Sun dasa from then.> > > > In D-10, Venus is the 5th lord and occupies lagna with 9th lord Saturn. He aspects GL too. But Venus is poorly placed from natal rasi Mercury. So Venus dasa is mixed, with more favorable results.> > > > Sun is the 3rd lord with 6th lord Mars and lagna lord Mercury, giving VRY in the 4th house in AL in D-10. Sun is well-placed from natal rasi Mercury in AV and he aspects GL in Pi in D-10. Overall, Sun dasa promises sporting success.> > > > Pakistan will do well throughout the tournament. They may have some disappointments in the initial rounds before March 6, but will raise their game in the super six stage. They are a very strong contender for the cup (strongest in the five teams considered here). They may atleast play in the semifinals and most probably in the finals too.> > > > [Note: I misjudged Pakistan's poor luck in the initial rounds. Venus dasa was not "mixed", but quite bad. They did not even make it to the next round to capitalize on the good period.]> > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Catch all the cricket action. 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Guest guest Posted March 25, 2003 Report Share Posted March 25, 2003 Punit Pandey <pandeypunit > wrote: Hello Everyone,I am posting message on this group first time only though I am a regular member of Lal Kitab and group. The cricket world cup final predictions attracted me towards this group. So have something to say.It is surprising that nearly all the predictions regarding world cup final failed. I was watching TV from 7 AM morning and listened nearly all predictions of popular astrologers in India and none of them was even close to truth. Predictions in this group is also no different. With due respect to those entire astrologers, I want to tell my opinion of failing.There are two popular methods for this type of predictions. One is horoscope of country and other is horary astrology. My experience says that one cannot predict accurately using any of this method. Like most of the astrologers I discusses and researched a lot on both the methods. I think the horary astrology method is best out of both. But the problem with this method is the question must be asked by the person who has direct relation with the event. For example if Ganguly or Sachin would have asked whether Indian team will win or not, I can say for sure that we would have got 100% accurate results. But if the person asking the question don't have direct relation with the event most of the time this type of analysis fails. I am reached to this conclusion after analyzing many horary charts. The other method i.e. the horoscope of nation also not sounds convincing. My reason behind that is on the same day Vishwanathan Anand may win in Chess and India losses in cricket. So it is very-very difficult to analyze from nations horoscope from the perspective of any individual horoscope. You can know easily what will be condition of sports in India during this time. You can have overall view but it is not easy to know the result of particular sport. For example if the horoscope of India is good from games/sports point of view, Vishwanathan Anand might win in the chess tournament (as India has already lost in world cup). I am waiting for opinion of all experts.Respectfully,Punit Pandeyvedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH> Dear Deepak,> Of course we have to look to the dasa and antara of the particular country's independence chart and or horary chart or the time of starting of the event also.This helps more> With best regards,> Ramadas Rao.> Sanjeev Trehan <strehan@g...> wrote:> > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }> Though I am novice in astrology, I will suggest something.> > > > One more ting I would like to say, whom so ever predictited win of India, have they looked into the their chart/use horary methods to ascertain whether or not they can make correct prediction and do correct analysis.> > > > Regards,> > Sanjeev> > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final> > > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH > > Dear Deepak, > > That is why I asked at what time the match started in the local time of Johannesberg.If anybody gives me this data I will tell where all have gone wrong.But yesterday ,I made a rough chart for 10 AM of start of the Match starting in Johannesberg and it gave me Mesha Lagna which is in dwi dwasha with Our Indian Independence chart.So then I had a doubt on India's win.But I actually dont know the actual time .So I kept quiet.Of course we have to see so many other factors also. > > With best regards, > > Ramadas Rao. > > Deepak Nair <superdeep@g...> wrote: > > Dear Ramadas Rao,> > > > Then what was it that went wrong ?> > > > The only prediction that seemes to have gone right is that of Mr. Venkateshwara, who said that Sehwag Would be at his "vintage " best.> > > > 99 % astrologers had predicted India's win !> > Does it mean that all their methods were an effort in futility ?> > > > This is not a test of Cricket strength - it is a test of the techniques of Vedic Astrology.> > > > I am certain ALL those who had predicted India's win will now resort to the excuse that they had overlooked one or the other inimical aspect/conjuction/transit but the point is - does it really hold water. I personally think we need a NEW VEDIC ASTROLOGY - One that is relevant to the Kaliyuga. > > > > Pardon me for being candid, but predictive astrology is NOT for determining the reasons for a certain event in retrospective, and if so, it is of no practical use!> > > > Deepak N.> > > > Original Message ----- > > Ramadas Rao > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, March 23, 2003 12:22 AM> > Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final> > > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAH > > Dear Narasimha Rao ji, > > It is really a very good analysis.I also pray God that through Sachin's wonderful performance,India be victorious in this finals of World Cup. > > With best regards, > > Ramadas Rao. > > "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: > > Namaste friends,> > > > Out of Australia and India, India has a better chance of winning the cup. I gave an analysis of the respective annual charts more than a month back (enclosed below). Out of the countries left in the fray, India has the best chance.> > > > There is only one player involved whose chart I know confidently - Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. So I will analyze his chances of doing well tomorrow, based on monthly Tithi pravesh chart.> > > > Birthdata: 24 April 24 1973, 16:28 (IST), 73 E 00', 20 N 00'> > > His Jan-Feb monthly TP chart is 24 January 2003, 11:52:15> > In the Holland match that took place on Sukla Ekadasi tithi ruled by Mars, he did well - compiled a half-century - but the team did poorly. India still won, bur drew a lot of flak. In D-10 of the above monthly chart, Mars is in the 6th house from lagna and 3rd from AL and gave success to Sachin himself. But, being with retrograde Saturn and Ketu, he gave that success amid shakiness all around him.> > > > In the Australia match that took place on Sukla Chaturdasi tithi ruled by Venus, he top-scored in an Indian collapse with just 36. India lost badly. Venus, being a benefic in the 7th from AL, shows success of opponents. Being in the 9th from A6 also, he protects rivals. His tithi saw the victory of rivals.> > > > You can analyze all the matches like this. Now move on to the next monthly chart.> > > > His Feb-Mar monthly TP chart data: 22 February 2003, 19:53:42 (IST)> > > > In this chart, Venus stands out. In rasi, he is the 10th lord in 5th. In D-10, he is lagna lord in a quadrant and he is in AL. He is the dispositor of exalted Saturn and Ketu, who are very well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 3rd from AL. Based on all these, Sachin's best has to come on Shashthi/Chaturdasi tithis during the month (which will get over the day after the final). The only two matches scheduled on those tithis during the month are the Pakistan match on March 1 and the final tomorrow! In the former, Sachin came up with a bewitching performance against a top bowling attack.> > > > Though placed in AL, Jupiter is a bad planet. He is the 8th lord in rasi and dasamsa. If a functional malefic is placed in AL, he can affect the status negatively. On Jupiter's tithi, Sachin failed against Kenya in the supersixes match.> > > > Apart from Venus, another planet who stands out positively in D-10 is Saturn. He is yogakaraka in D-10 and is exalted in the 3rd from AL and 6th from lagna. During his tithi, Sachin came up with another master knock against Sri Lanka.> > > > My prediction is that Sachin will be at his vintage best tomorrow and do well quite like he did on March 1 against Pakistan. India will win.> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> > Narasimha> > -------------------> > [From my mail of Feb 18, 2003]> > > > Predictions> > > > (1) Australia: Their annual chart data is:> > > > January 14, 2003> Time: 15:55:45> Time Zone: 10:00:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 144 E 58' 00", 37 S 49' 00"> > > > They run Mercury dasa till March 15 and start Saturn dasa then.> > > > In rasi chart, Mercury has 7 rekhas in AV. In D-10 also, he is strong with 6 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 33 rekhas in SAV. Mercury is the 5th lord from AL and well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 4th from AL (with malefic Mars). Mercury shows success. He is well-placed in Le from natal rasi Mercury.> > > > OTOH, Saturn is in the 8th house in D-10, in a sign with just 23 rekhas in SAV. Saturn dasa from March 15 will give a disappointment and not the world cup.> > > > Viv Richards wrote correctly that the defending champions may be peaking too early. Australia will do quite well until March 15, i.e. in the preliminary matches and in the super six stage. After March 15, they will face a disappointment. An off day will cost them the finals or even the semifinals perhaps. They may not win the cup.> > > > (2) South Africa: Their annual chart data is:> > > > May 12, 2002> Time: 4:17:40> Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT)> Place: 28 E 10' 00", 25 S 45' 00"> > > > They run Jupiter dasa throughout the tournament. Jupiter with 4 rekhas occupies the weakest sign in D-10 SAV (Sg with 21 rekhas). Though he is well-placed in the 2nd from D-10 with Moon, it only suggests showing good resources/infrastructure (2nd). In the 6th from AL with Moon, he does not promise victory.> > > > South Africa will do quite poorly and not succeed in keeping up the promise they showed coming into the tournament at home. They may not win the cup.> > > > (3) Sri Lanka: Their annual chart data is:> > > > January 27, 2003> Time: 3:31:23> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 79 E 52' 00", 6 N 56' 00"> > > > They run Moon dasa till March 7 and Mars dasa after that.> > > > Moon is strong in D-10 in own sign with 4 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 30 rekhas in SAV. He is in a quadrant from lagna and 2nd from AL (good placement - feeds image). He has argala on 3rd and 6th from lagna and aspects 5th lord. Moon dasa will be quite good.> > > > Mars, OTOH, is in the 8th house (albeit in an own sign). He has 3 in his AV and the sign has 28 in SAV. Mars dasa is not so favorable.> > > > Sri Lanka will do very well until March 7, i.e. in the preliminary rounds. They will run out of steam in the super six stage. They may not win the cup.> > > > (4) India: Their annual chart data is:> > > > August 7, 2002> Time: 5:25:52> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00"> Delhi, India> > They run Mars dasa till Feb 26 and start Mercury dasa on Feb 26 (just before the day/night match against England).> > > > In D-10, both Mars and Mercury are placed in AL, in the 3rd house from lagna, in a sign with 30 points. Mercury is stronger with 4 rekhas in his AV. Mars gives the results of Mercury and gives a mild and wavering performance. Mercury gives the results of yoga karaka Mars and gives an aggressive and confident performance and an aggressive image.> > > > India will do poorly and waver until Feb 26. They may prevail over Zimbabwe with difficulty on Feb 19 and have a not-so-great win over Namibia on Feb 23. But, they will have a turn-around from the England match on Feb 26 and will raise their game from then. Starting then, they will play well throughout the rest of the tournament. They even have some chance of winning the cup.> > > > (5) Pakistan: Their annual chart data is:> > > > August 6, 2002> Time: 2:56:05> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 67 E 03' 00", 24 N 52' 00"> > They run Venus dasa till March 6 and Sun dasa from then.> > > > In D-10, Venus is the 5th lord and occupies lagna with 9th lord Saturn. He aspects GL too. But Venus is poorly placed from natal rasi Mercury. So Venus dasa is mixed, with more favorable results.> > > > Sun is the 3rd lord with 6th lord Mars and lagna lord Mercury, giving VRY in the 4th house in AL in D-10. Sun is well-placed from natal rasi Mercury in AV and he aspects GL in Pi in D-10. Overall, Sun dasa promises sporting success.> > > > Pakistan will do well throughout the tournament. They may have some disappointments in the initial rounds before March 6, but will raise their game in the super six stage. They are a very strong contender for the cup (strongest in the five teams considered here). They may atleast play in the semifinals and most probably in the finals too.> > > > [Note: I misjudged Pakistan's poor luck in the initial rounds. Venus dasa was not "mixed", but quite bad. They did not even make it to the next round to capitalize on the good period.]> > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Catch all the cricket action. 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Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 Pranama, All the research work is done on a similar track, and it is scientific and logical approach too. Judging any principle or hypothesis in the light of past events yields clear cut result. (instead extracted results can not be applied blindly due to qualitative behavoir of Jyotish vidya) You have said that success ratio of your hypothesis falls in the interval of 60%-80%. But Pandey jee you did not described the at which "planetary position/yoga/nakshatra" India won or loose during past few years. It will be definitely a productive study for the learners of vedic astrology to comprehend such scientific appraoches and statistical methods. Collect the optimal and unbiased data/facts;use available tools and predictive methodology and judge the result then build a firm opinion. Hope you will tell, which planetary positions and transits were beneficial and malefic for Indian cricket team. Regards IMRAN Punit Pandey <punitastrologer > wrote: Dear Sanjay Ji, Thanks for opinion. I fully agree that the horoscope of captain and individual players can help. I have another method of predicting results of such matches. I found it very very convincing. It can be called statistical method. According to me the best method is to collect the data of last few year's match and check when India wins and when lost. By just checking the Nakshatra, I came closer to 60-80% percent accuracy. For example I predicted that the Ganguly will perform better after super sixes and I predicted this just because Ganguly has very good Jupiter, Sun was passing through Jupiter's Nakshatra during this period (around 5th to 18th march). Sachin has very good Rahu and Sun was passing through Rahu's Nakshatra before 5th march and we all know his performance in league match whereas Ganguly's performance improved only after League matches. I guess that both of these players don't have good Saturn hence the performance in Final. I concluded that the Sachin has good Rahu, Ganguly has good Jupiter etc. on the basis of their past performances statistically not on the based of horoscope and I see whenever there is Rahu as ruling planet of day, Sachin's performance improves. I think this statistical method is one of the best methods available for these types of predictions. Waiting for opinion of all members. Finally I want to say that this group is best for Vedic Astrology discussion. Thanks to all in advance. Punit Pandey Sanjay Rath <vyasa (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ~Om Gurave Namah~Dear Puneet That is a good point of view. Consider this: Is it not in India's destiny that Vishwanathan anand wins chess and the cricket team fails. Can we see this and what tools do we have is the question? The available tools known limit this very much but this is not impossible and is what pushes us to study further. The present method of studying individual charts as well that of the captain is the right method just as the chart of the king of a country is studies for the outcome of a war. Best wishes & have a nice day,Sanjay Rath -----H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar - 751014, India SJC Web pages: http://.orgPersonal Web: http://srath.com Tel: +91-674-243 6781----- - Punit Pandey vedic astrology Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:14 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Cricket World Cup Final Hello Everyone,I am posting message on this group first time only though I am a regular member of Lal Kitab and group. The cricket world cup final predictions attracted me towards this group. So have something to say.It is surprising that nearly all the predictions regarding world cup final failed. I was watching TV from 7 AM morning and listened nearly all predictions of popular astrologers in India and none of them was even close to truth. Predictions in this group is also no different. With due respect to those entire astrologers, I want to tell my opinion of failing.There are two popular methods for this type of predictions. One is horoscope of country and other is horary astrology. My experience says that one cannot predict accurately using any of this method. Like most of the astrologers I discusses and researched a lot on both the methods. I think the horary astrology method is best out of both. But the problem with this method is the question must be asked by the person who has direct relation with the event. For example if Ganguly or Sachin would have asked whether Indian team will win or not, I can say for sure that we would have got 100% accurate results. But if the person asking the question don't have direct relation with the event most of the time this type of analysis fails. I am reached to this conclusion after analyzing many horary charts. The other method i.e. the horoscope of nation also not sounds convincing. My reason behind that is on the same day Vishwanathan Anand may win in Chess and India losses in cricket. So it is very-very difficult to analyze from nations horoscope from the perspective of any individual horoscope. You can know easily what will be condition of sports in India during this time. You can have overall view but it is not easy to know the result of particular sport. For example if the horoscope of India is good from games/sports point of view, Vishwanathan Anand might win in the chess tournament (as India has already lost in world cup). I am waiting for opinion of all experts.Respectfully,Punit Pandeyvedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH> Dear Deepak,> Of course we have to look to the dasa and antara of the particular country's independence chart and or horary chart or the time of starting of the event also.This helps more> With best regards,> Ramadas Rao.> Sanjeev Trehan <strehan@g...> wrote:> > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }> Though I am novice in astrology, I will suggest something.> > > > One more ting I would like to say, whom so ever predictited win of India, have they looked into the their chart/use horary methods to ascertain whether or not they can make correct prediction and do correct analysis.> > > > Regards,> > Sanjeev> > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final> > > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH > > Dear Deepak, > > That is why I asked at what time the match started in the local time of Johannesberg.If anybody gives me this data I will tell where all have gone wrong.But yesterday ,I made a rough chart for 10 AM of start of the Match starting in Johannesberg and it gave me Mesha Lagna which is in dwi dwasha with Our Indian Independence chart.So then I had a doubt on India's win.But I actually dont know the actual time .So I kept quiet.Of course we have to see so many other factors also. > > With best regards, > > Ramadas Rao. > > Deepak Nair <superdeep@g...> wrote: > > Dear Ramadas Rao,> > > > Then what was it that went wrong ?> > > > The only prediction that seemes to have gone right is that of Mr. Venkateshwara, who said that Sehwag Would be at his "vintage " best.> > > > 99 % astrologers had predicted India's win !> > Does it mean that all their methods were an effort in futility ?> > > > This is not a test of Cricket strength - it is a test of the techniques of Vedic Astrology.> > > > I am certain ALL those who had predicted India's win will now resort to the excuse that they had overlooked one or the other inimical aspect/conjuction/transit but the point is - does it really hold water. I personally think we need a NEW VEDIC ASTROLOGY - One that is relevant to the Kaliyuga. > > > > Pardon me for being candid, but predictive astrology is NOT for determining the reasons for a certain event in retrospective, and if so, it is of no practical use!> > > > Deepak N.> > > > Original Message ----- > > Ramadas Rao > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, March 23, 2003 12:22 AM> > Re: [vedic astrology] Cricket World Cup Final> > > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAH > > Dear Narasimha Rao ji, > > It is really a very good analysis.I also pray God that through Sachin's wonderful performance,India be victorious in this finals of World Cup. > > With best regards, > > Ramadas Rao. > > "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: > > Namaste friends,> > > > Out of Australia and India, India has a better chance of winning the cup. I gave an analysis of the respective annual charts more than a month back (enclosed below). Out of the countries left in the fray, India has the best chance.> > > > There is only one player involved whose chart I know confidently - Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. So I will analyze his chances of doing well tomorrow, based on monthly Tithi pravesh chart.> > > > Birthdata: 24 April 24 1973, 16:28 (IST), 73 E 00', 20 N 00'> > > His Jan-Feb monthly TP chart is 24 January 2003, 11:52:15> > In the Holland match that took place on Sukla Ekadasi tithi ruled by Mars, he did well - compiled a half-century - but the team did poorly. India still won, bur drew a lot of flak. In D-10 of the above monthly chart, Mars is in the 6th house from lagna and 3rd from AL and gave success to Sachin himself. But, being with retrograde Saturn and Ketu, he gave that success amid shakiness all around him.> > > > In the Australia match that took place on Sukla Chaturdasi tithi ruled by Venus, he top-scored in an Indian collapse with just 36. India lost badly. Venus, being a benefic in the 7th from AL, shows success of opponents. Being in the 9th from A6 also, he protects rivals. His tithi saw the victory of rivals.> > > > You can analyze all the matches like this. Now move on to the next monthly chart.> > > > His Feb-Mar monthly TP chart data: 22 February 2003, 19:53:42 (IST)> > > > In this chart, Venus stands out. In rasi, he is the 10th lord in 5th. In D-10, he is lagna lord in a quadrant and he is in AL. He is the dispositor of exalted Saturn and Ketu, who are very well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 3rd from AL. Based on all these, Sachin's best has to come on Shashthi/Chaturdasi tithis during the month (which will get over the day after the final). The only two matches scheduled on those tithis during the month are the Pakistan match on March 1 and the final tomorrow! In the former, Sachin came up with a bewitching performance against a top bowling attack.> > > > Though placed in AL, Jupiter is a bad planet. He is the 8th lord in rasi and dasamsa. If a functional malefic is placed in AL, he can affect the status negatively. On Jupiter's tithi, Sachin failed against Kenya in the supersixes match.> > > > Apart from Venus, another planet who stands out positively in D-10 is Saturn. He is yogakaraka in D-10 and is exalted in the 3rd from AL and 6th from lagna. During his tithi, Sachin came up with another master knock against Sri Lanka.> > > > My prediction is that Sachin will be at his vintage best tomorrow and do well quite like he did on March 1 against Pakistan. India will win.> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> > Narasimha> > -------------------> > [From my mail of Feb 18, 2003]> > > > Predictions> > > > (1) Australia: Their annual chart data is:> > > > January 14, 2003> Time: 15:55:45> Time Zone: 10:00:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 144 E 58' 00", 37 S 49' 00"> > > > They run Mercury dasa till March 15 and start Saturn dasa then.> > > > In rasi chart, Mercury has 7 rekhas in AV. In D-10 also, he is strong with 6 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 33 rekhas in SAV. Mercury is the 5th lord from AL and well-placed in the 6th from lagna and 4th from AL (with malefic Mars). Mercury shows success. He is well-placed in Le from natal rasi Mercury.> > > > OTOH, Saturn is in the 8th house in D-10, in a sign with just 23 rekhas in SAV. Saturn dasa from March 15 will give a disappointment and not the world cup.> > > > Viv Richards wrote correctly that the defending champions may be peaking too early. Australia will do quite well until March 15, i.e. in the preliminary matches and in the super six stage. After March 15, they will face a disappointment. An off day will cost them the finals or even the semifinals perhaps. They may not win the cup.> > > > (2) South Africa: Their annual chart data is:> > > > May 12, 2002> Time: 4:17:40> Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT)> Place: 28 E 10' 00", 25 S 45' 00"> > > > They run Jupiter dasa throughout the tournament. Jupiter with 4 rekhas occupies the weakest sign in D-10 SAV (Sg with 21 rekhas). Though he is well-placed in the 2nd from D-10 with Moon, it only suggests showing good resources/infrastructure (2nd). In the 6th from AL with Moon, he does not promise victory.> > > > South Africa will do quite poorly and not succeed in keeping up the promise they showed coming into the tournament at home. They may not win the cup.> > > > (3) Sri Lanka: Their annual chart data is:> > > > January 27, 2003> Time: 3:31:23> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 79 E 52' 00", 6 N 56' 00"> > > > They run Moon dasa till March 7 and Mars dasa after that.> > > > Moon is strong in D-10 in own sign with 4 rekhas in his AV, in a sign with 30 rekhas in SAV. He is in a quadrant from lagna and 2nd from AL (good placement - feeds image). He has argala on 3rd and 6th from lagna and aspects 5th lord. Moon dasa will be quite good.> > > > Mars, OTOH, is in the 8th house (albeit in an own sign). He has 3 in his AV and the sign has 28 in SAV. Mars dasa is not so favorable.> > > > Sri Lanka will do very well until March 7, i.e. in the preliminary rounds. They will run out of steam in the super six stage. They may not win the cup.> > > > (4) India: Their annual chart data is:> > > > August 7, 2002> Time: 5:25:52> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00"> Delhi, India> > They run Mars dasa till Feb 26 and start Mercury dasa on Feb 26 (just before the day/night match against England).> > > > In D-10, both Mars and Mercury are placed in AL, in the 3rd house from lagna, in a sign with 30 points. Mercury is stronger with 4 rekhas in his AV. Mars gives the results of Mercury and gives a mild and wavering performance. Mercury gives the results of yoga karaka Mars and gives an aggressive and confident performance and an aggressive image.> > > > India will do poorly and waver until Feb 26. They may prevail over Zimbabwe with difficulty on Feb 19 and have a not-so-great win over Namibia on Feb 23. But, they will have a turn-around from the England match on Feb 26 and will raise their game from then. Starting then, they will play well throughout the rest of the tournament. They even have some chance of winning the cup.> > > > (5) Pakistan: Their annual chart data is:> > > > August 6, 2002> Time: 2:56:05> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 67 E 03' 00", 24 N 52' 00"> > They run Venus dasa till March 6 and Sun dasa from then.> > > > In D-10, Venus is the 5th lord and occupies lagna with 9th lord Saturn. He aspects GL too. But Venus is poorly placed from natal rasi Mercury. So Venus dasa is mixed, with more favorable results.> > > > Sun is the 3rd lord with 6th lord Mars and lagna lord Mercury, giving VRY in the 4th house in AL in D-10. Sun is well-placed from natal rasi Mercury in AV and he aspects GL in Pi in D-10. Overall, Sun dasa promises sporting success.> > > > Pakistan will do well throughout the tournament. They may have some disappointments in the initial rounds before March 6, but will raise their game in the super six stage. They are a very strong contender for the cup (strongest in the five teams considered here). They may atleast play in the semifinals and most probably in the finals too.> > > > [Note: I misjudged Pakistan's poor luck in the initial rounds. Venus dasa was not "mixed", but quite bad. They did not even make it to the next round to capitalize on the good period.]> > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Catch all the cricket action. 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