Guest guest Posted March 25, 2003 Report Share Posted March 25, 2003 Namaste friends, The cricket predictions we had here were primarily speculative. There are no clear rules in classics for predicting a country's success in various sports. Like somebody pointed out, Indian cricket team may lose and Indian hockey team may win on the same day. We are trying to speculate and build the subject in the process. There is no basis to deem these cricket predictions as infallible. We're not there yet. Nevertheless, a wrong public prediction is a wrong public prediction. I was sure there would be something in my chart to show it. I looked at my annual Tithi Pravesha chart of 2002-03. I looked at dasamsa (D-10), because that is the chart of activities in society and public predictions are certainly covered by it. Natal data: 4 April 1970, 5:42:15 pm (IST), 81 E 08', 16 N 10' Annual TP data: 10 April 2002, 11:48:39 pm (IST) The 2nd house is the house of speech and covers predictions too. In D-10 of my annual TP chart, Aries rises and Taurus is the 2nd house. Its lord Venus is debilitated in the 6th house. With the lord of the 2nd house in marana karaka sthana (the 6th house is the marana karaka sthana for Venus), the 2nd house can be destroyed. Thus a wrong public prediction is possible in Venus dasa. I am running the Venus dasa (as per annual Tithi Ashtottari dasa) from March 21 to March 30! No wonder I had more success with cricket predictions in the previous Rahu dasa (Rahu joins Jupiter and gets his beneficence and aspects the 2nd house in D-10). As soon as Venus dasa came, my word went wrong. Debilitated Venus may also show that some passion/patriotism was the reason for the wrong prediction. Now, if you look at my 2003-04 annual TP chart (31 March 2003, 12:31:29 am), you will see that the 2nd lord Venus occupies the 2nd house Taurus in D-10 in strength. Venus has 7 rekhas and Taurus has 36 rekhas in the ashtakavarga of D-10. This strength suggests that a public prediction of mine may come true during March 31-May 30 (Venus dasa), perhaps related to war or markets or show people (Venus). Let us see. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2003 Report Share Posted March 25, 2003 Namaste, Logical and considerable point !!! At the time of forecasting astrologer should himself be able to decode the codes of nature(with the help of Jyotish), and definitely during bad/week periods and unfavourable transit it is not possible to receive the unseen frequency precisely. (therefore it is said when 7th house, which represent, was ill, one should not predict) But here at this stage, one matter can not be ignored at all. It is not you alone whose words go in vain. On a certain date/week all astrologers can not victimized by bad annual dashas. Nearly all the astrologers of India faced embarrassment after unexpected result of cricket world cup final. So is there any mega planetary phenomena on heaven (yoga, conjunction or association on sky) which struk fame of astrologers universally (or say created doubt in public minds about validity of astrology). Regards IMRAN "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Namaste friends, The cricket predictions we had here were primarily speculative. There are no clear rules in classics for predicting a country's success in various sports. Like somebody pointed out, Indian cricket team may lose and Indian hockey team may win on the same day. We are trying to speculate and build the subject in the process. There is no basis to deem these cricket predictions as infallible. We're not there yet. Nevertheless, a wrong public prediction is a wrong public prediction. I was sure there would be something in my chart to show it. I looked at my annual Tithi Pravesha chart of 2002-03. I looked at dasamsa (D-10), because that is the chart of activities in society and public predictions are certainly covered by it. Natal data: 4 April 1970, 5:42:15 pm (IST), 81 E 08', 16 N 10' Annual TP data: 10 April 2002, 11:48:39 pm (IST) The 2nd house is the house of speech and covers predictions too. In D-10 of my annual TP chart, Aries rises and Taurus is the 2nd house. Its lord Venus is debilitated in the 6th house. With the lord of the 2nd house in marana karaka sthana (the 6th house is the marana karaka sthana for Venus), the 2nd house can be destroyed. Thus a wrong public prediction is possible in Venus dasa. I am running the Venus dasa (as per annual Tithi Ashtottari dasa) from March 21 to March 30! No wonder I had more success with cricket predictions in the previous Rahu dasa (Rahu joins Jupiter and gets his beneficence and aspects the 2nd house in D-10). As soon as Venus dasa came, my word went wrong. Debilitated Venus may also show that some passion/patriotism was the reason for the wrong prediction. Now, if you look at my 2003-04 annual TP chart (31 March 2003, 12:31:29 am), you will see that the 2nd lord Venus occupies the 2nd house Taurus in D-10 in strength. Venus has 7 rekhas and Taurus has 36 rekhas in the ashtakavarga of D-10. This strength suggests that a public prediction of mine may come true during March 31-May 30 (Venus dasa), perhaps related to war or markets or show people (Venus). Let us see. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Do you ? Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2003 Report Share Posted March 25, 2003 Hello, Its high time indian astrologers learn what to predict and what not to predict publicly and realize limits of astrology. If ordinary people dont know what to expect from astrology it is pardonable to some extent but when astrologers commit mass-suicide its raises lot of questions. Rajeev Upadhye - Muhammad Imran vedic astrology Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:26 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Public predictions and astrologer's chart Dear Narasimharao, Namaste, Logical and considerable point !!! At the time of forecasting astrologer should himself be able to decode the codes of nature(with the help of Jyotish), and definitely during bad/week periods and unfavourable transit it is not possible to receive the unseen frequency precisely. (therefore it is said when 7th house, which represent, was ill, one should not predict) But here at this stage, one matter can not be ignored at all. It is not you alone whose words go in vain. On a certain date/week all astrologers can not victimized by bad annual dashas. Nearly all the astrologers of India faced embarrassment after unexpected result of cricket world cup final. So is there any mega planetary phenomena on heaven (yoga, conjunction or association on sky) which struk fame of astrologers universally (or say created doubt in public minds about validity of astrology). Regards IMRAN "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Namaste friends, The cricket predictions we had here were primarily speculative. There are no clear rules in classics for predicting a country's success in various sports. Like somebody pointed out, Indian cricket team may lose and Indian hockey team may win on the same day. We are trying to speculate and build the subject in the process. There is no basis to deem these cricket predictions as infallible. We're not there yet. Nevertheless, a wrong public prediction is a wrong public prediction. I was sure there would be something in my chart to show it. I looked at my annual Tithi Pravesha chart of 2002-03. I looked at dasamsa (D-10), because that is the chart of activities in society and public predictions are certainly covered by it. Natal data: 4 April 1970, 5:42:15 pm (IST), 81 E 08', 16 N 10' Annual TP data: 10 April 2002, 11:48:39 pm (IST) The 2nd house is the house of speech and covers predictions too. In D-10 of my annual TP chart, Aries rises and Taurus is the 2nd house. Its lord Venus is debilitated in the 6th house. With the lord of the 2nd house in marana karaka sthana (the 6th house is the marana karaka sthana for Venus), the 2nd house can be destroyed. Thus a wrong public prediction is possible in Venus dasa. I am running the Venus dasa (as per annual Tithi Ashtottari dasa) from March 21 to March 30! No wonder I had more success with cricket predictions in the previous Rahu dasa (Rahu joins Jupiter and gets his beneficence and aspects the 2nd house in D-10). As soon as Venus dasa came, my word went wrong. Debilitated Venus may also show that some passion/patriotism was the reason for the wrong prediction. Now, if you look at my 2003-04 annual TP chart (31 March 2003, 12:31:29 am), you will see that the 2nd lord Venus occupies the 2nd house Taurus in D-10 in strength. Venus has 7 rekhas and Taurus has 36 rekhas in the ashtakavarga of D-10. This strength suggests that a public prediction of mine may come true during March 31-May 30 (Venus dasa), perhaps related to war or markets or show people (Venus). Let us see. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 Dear Rajeev, I tend to disagree with you. It really takes great courage to predict an event publicly, knowing there is a 50-50% chance of failure. Surely failure is no crime. It is far easy to give predictions where the results could be interpreted both ways. Again I do not know why you target Indian astrologers only. If failure of prediction is to be seen on a grand sale look what happened to the great western palmist Cheiro towards the end of his life. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - Rajeev Upadhye vedic astrology Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:40 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Public predictions and astrologer's chart Hello, Its high time indian astrologers learn what to predict and what not to predict publicly and realize limits of astrology. If ordinary people dont know what to expect from astrology it is pardonable to some extent but when astrologers commit mass-suicide its raises lot of questions. Rajeev Upadhye - Muhammad Imran vedic astrology Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:26 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Public predictions and astrologer's chart Dear Narasimharao, Namaste, Logical and considerable point !!! At the time of forecasting astrologer should himself be able to decode the codes of nature(with the help of Jyotish), and definitely during bad/week periods and unfavourable transit it is not possible to receive the unseen frequency precisely. (therefore it is said when 7th house, which represent, was ill, one should not predict) But here at this stage, one matter can not be ignored at all. It is not you alone whose words go in vain. On a certain date/week all astrologers can not victimized by bad annual dashas. Nearly all the astrologers of India faced embarrassment after unexpected result of cricket world cup final. So is there any mega planetary phenomena on heaven (yoga, conjunction or association on sky) which struk fame of astrologers universally (or say created doubt in public minds about validity of astrology). Regards IMRAN "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Namaste friends, The cricket predictions we had here were primarily speculative. There are no clear rules in classics for predicting a country's success in various sports. Like somebody pointed out, Indian cricket team may lose and Indian hockey team may win on the same day. We are trying to speculate and build the subject in the process. There is no basis to deem these cricket predictions as infallible. We're not there yet. Nevertheless, a wrong public prediction is a wrong public prediction. I was sure there would be something in my chart to show it. I looked at my annual Tithi Pravesha chart of 2002-03. I looked at dasamsa (D-10), because that is the chart of activities in society and public predictions are certainly covered by it. Natal data: 4 April 1970, 5:42:15 pm (IST), 81 E 08', 16 N 10' Annual TP data: 10 April 2002, 11:48:39 pm (IST) The 2nd house is the house of speech and covers predictions too. In D-10 of my annual TP chart, Aries rises and Taurus is the 2nd house. Its lord Venus is debilitated in the 6th house. With the lord of the 2nd house in marana karaka sthana (the 6th house is the marana karaka sthana for Venus), the 2nd house can be destroyed. Thus a wrong public prediction is possible in Venus dasa. I am running the Venus dasa (as per annual Tithi Ashtottari dasa) from March 21 to March 30! No wonder I had more success with cricket predictions in the previous Rahu dasa (Rahu joins Jupiter and gets his beneficence and aspects the 2nd house in D-10). As soon as Venus dasa came, my word went wrong. Debilitated Venus may also show that some passion/patriotism was the reason for the wrong prediction. Now, if you look at my 2003-04 annual TP chart (31 March 2003, 12:31:29 am), you will see that the 2nd lord Venus occupies the 2nd house Taurus in D-10 in strength. Venus has 7 rekhas and Taurus has 36 rekhas in the ashtakavarga of D-10. This strength suggests that a public prediction of mine may come true during March 31-May 30 (Venus dasa), perhaps related to war or markets or show people (Venus). Let us see. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 Dear Shri Chandrashekhar, I dont mind you disagreeing with me as long as it remains gentleman's disagreement. I can understand some astrologer failing once or twice or may be ten times. Most of the astrologers failing simultaneously points to something else... Rajeev Upadhye - Chandrashekhar vedic astrology Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:00 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Public predictions and astrologer's chart Dear Rajeev, I tend to disagree with you. It really takes great courage to predict an event publicly, knowing there is a 50-50% chance of failure. Surely failure is no crime. It is far easy to give predictions where the results could be interpreted both ways. Again I do not know why you target Indian astrologers only. If failure of prediction is to be seen on a grand sale look what happened to the great western palmist Cheiro towards the end of his life. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - Rajeev Upadhye vedic astrology Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:40 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Public predictions and astrologer's chart Hello, Its high time indian astrologers learn what to predict and what not to predict publicly and realize limits of astrology. If ordinary people dont know what to expect from astrology it is pardonable to some extent but when astrologers commit mass-suicide its raises lot of questions. Rajeev Upadhye - Muhammad Imran vedic astrology Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:26 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Public predictions and astrologer's chart Dear Narasimharao, Namaste, Logical and considerable point !!! At the time of forecasting astrologer should himself be able to decode the codes of nature(with the help of Jyotish), and definitely during bad/week periods and unfavourable transit it is not possible to receive the unseen frequency precisely. (therefore it is said when 7th house, which represent, was ill, one should not predict) But here at this stage, one matter can not be ignored at all. It is not you alone whose words go in vain. On a certain date/week all astrologers can not victimized by bad annual dashas. Nearly all the astrologers of India faced embarrassment after unexpected result of cricket world cup final. So is there any mega planetary phenomena on heaven (yoga, conjunction or association on sky) which struk fame of astrologers universally (or say created doubt in public minds about validity of astrology). Regards IMRAN "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Namaste friends, The cricket predictions we had here were primarily speculative. There are no clear rules in classics for predicting a country's success in various sports. Like somebody pointed out, Indian cricket team may lose and Indian hockey team may win on the same day. We are trying to speculate and build the subject in the process. There is no basis to deem these cricket predictions as infallible. We're not there yet. Nevertheless, a wrong public prediction is a wrong public prediction. I was sure there would be something in my chart to show it. I looked at my annual Tithi Pravesha chart of 2002-03. I looked at dasamsa (D-10), because that is the chart of activities in society and public predictions are certainly covered by it. Natal data: 4 April 1970, 5:42:15 pm (IST), 81 E 08', 16 N 10' Annual TP data: 10 April 2002, 11:48:39 pm (IST) The 2nd house is the house of speech and covers predictions too. In D-10 of my annual TP chart, Aries rises and Taurus is the 2nd house. Its lord Venus is debilitated in the 6th house. With the lord of the 2nd house in marana karaka sthana (the 6th house is the marana karaka sthana for Venus), the 2nd house can be destroyed. Thus a wrong public prediction is possible in Venus dasa. I am running the Venus dasa (as per annual Tithi Ashtottari dasa) from March 21 to March 30! No wonder I had more success with cricket predictions in the previous Rahu dasa (Rahu joins Jupiter and gets his beneficence and aspects the 2nd house in D-10). As soon as Venus dasa came, my word went wrong. Debilitated Venus may also show that some passion/patriotism was the reason for the wrong prediction. Now, if you look at my 2003-04 annual TP chart (31 March 2003, 12:31:29 am), you will see that the 2nd lord Venus occupies the 2nd house Taurus in D-10 in strength. Venus has 7 rekhas and Taurus has 36 rekhas in the ashtakavarga of D-10. This strength suggests that a public prediction of mine may come true during March 31-May 30 (Venus dasa), perhaps related to war or markets or show people (Venus). Let us see. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 Jaya Jagannath Dear Rajeev, You said "Most of the astrologers failing simultaneously points to something else...". Can I say, unfavourable Planetary position on the heaven for the Jyotishis for the moment as the reason. Jup's retrogression in Cancer is anyway not a good thing to happen. Best wishes Sarajit > > Dear Shri Chandrashekhar, > > I dont mind you disagreeing with me as long as it remains gentleman's disagreement. > > I can understand some astrologer failing once or twice or may be ten times. Most of the astrologers failing simultaneously points to something else... > > > Rajeev Upadhye > - > Chandrashekhar > vedic astrology > Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:00 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Public predictions and astrologer's chart > > > Dear Rajeev, > I tend to disagree with you. It really takes great courage to predict an event publicly, knowing there is a 50-50% chance of failure. Surely failure is no crime. It is far easy to give predictions where the results could be interpreted both ways. > Again I do not know why you target Indian astrologers only. If failure of prediction is to be seen on a grand sale look what happened to the great western palmist Cheiro towards the end of his life. > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > - > Rajeev Upadhye > vedic astrology > Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:40 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Public predictions and astrologer's chart > > > Hello, > > Its high time indian astrologers learn what to predict and what not to predict publicly and realize limits of astrology. If ordinary people dont know what to expect from astrology it is pardonable to some extent but when astrologers commit mass-suicide its raises lot of questions. > > > Rajeev Upadhye > - > Muhammad Imran > vedic astrology > Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:26 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Public predictions and astrologer's chart > > > Dear Narasimharao, > > Namaste, > > Logical and considerable point !!! At the time of forecasting astrologer should himself be able to decode the codes of nature(with the help of Jyotish), and definitely during bad/week periods and unfavourable transit it is not possible to receive the unseen frequency precisely. (therefore it is said when 7th house, which represent, was ill, one should not predict) > > But here at this stage, one matter can not be ignored at all. It is not you alone whose words go in vain. On a certain date/week all astrologers can not victimized by bad annual dashas. Nearly all the astrologers of India faced embarrassment after unexpected result of cricket world cup final. So is there any mega planetary phenomena on heaven (yoga, conjunction or association on sky) which struk fame of astrologers universally (or say created doubt in public minds about validity of astrology). > > Regards > > IMRAN > > > "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote: > > Namaste friends, > > The cricket predictions we had here were primarily speculative. There are no clear rules in classics for predicting a country's success in various sports. Like somebody pointed out, Indian cricket team may lose and Indian hockey team may win on the same day. We are trying to speculate and build the subject in the process. There is no basis to deem these cricket predictions as infallible. We're not there yet. > > Nevertheless, a wrong public prediction is a wrong public prediction. > > I was sure there would be something in my chart to show it. I looked at my annual Tithi Pravesha chart of 2002-03. I looked at dasamsa (D-10), because that is the chart of activities in society and public predictions are certainly covered by it. > > Natal data: 4 April 1970, 5:42:15 pm (IST), 81 E 08', 16 N 10' > Annual TP data: 10 April 2002, 11:48:39 pm (IST) > > The 2nd house is the house of speech and covers predictions too. In D-10 of my annual TP chart, Aries rises and Taurus is the 2nd house. Its lord Venus is debilitated in the 6th house. With the lord of the 2nd house in marana karaka sthana (the 6th house is the marana karaka sthana for Venus), the 2nd house can be destroyed. Thus a wrong public prediction is possible in Venus dasa. > > I am running the Venus dasa (as per annual Tithi Ashtottari dasa) from March 21 to March 30! > > No wonder I had more success with cricket predictions in the previous Rahu dasa (Rahu joins Jupiter and gets his beneficence and aspects the 2nd house in D-10). As soon as Venus dasa came, my word went wrong. Debilitated Venus may also show that some passion/patriotism was the reason for the wrong prediction. > > Now, if you look at my 2003-04 annual TP chart (31 March 2003, 12:31:29 am), you will see that the 2nd lord Venus occupies the 2nd house Taurus in D-10 in strength. Venus has 7 rekhas and Taurus has 36 rekhas in the ashtakavarga of D-10. This strength suggests that a public prediction of mine may come true during March 31-May 30 (Venus dasa), perhaps related to war or markets or show people (Venus). Let us see. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > ---- ---- > > Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. 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Guest guest Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Dear Rajeev, Yes , we agree to disagree. Chandrashekhar. - Rajeev Upadhye vedic astrology Thursday, March 27, 2003 7:27 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Public predictions and astrologer's chart Dear Shri Chandrashekhar, I dont mind you disagreeing with me as long as it remains gentleman's disagreement. I can understand some astrologer failing once or twice or may be ten times. Most of the astrologers failing simultaneously points to something else... Rajeev Upadhye - Chandrashekhar vedic astrology Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:00 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Public predictions and astrologer's chart Dear Rajeev, I tend to disagree with you. It really takes great courage to predict an event publicly, knowing there is a 50-50% chance of failure. Surely failure is no crime. It is far easy to give predictions where the results could be interpreted both ways. Again I do not know why you target Indian astrologers only. If failure of prediction is to be seen on a grand sale look what happened to the great western palmist Cheiro towards the end of his life. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - Rajeev Upadhye vedic astrology Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:40 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Public predictions and astrologer's chart Hello, Its high time indian astrologers learn what to predict and what not to predict publicly and realize limits of astrology. If ordinary people dont know what to expect from astrology it is pardonable to some extent but when astrologers commit mass-suicide its raises lot of questions. Rajeev Upadhye - Muhammad Imran vedic astrology Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:26 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Public predictions and astrologer's chart Dear Narasimharao, Namaste, Logical and considerable point !!! At the time of forecasting astrologer should himself be able to decode the codes of nature(with the help of Jyotish), and definitely during bad/week periods and unfavourable transit it is not possible to receive the unseen frequency precisely. (therefore it is said when 7th house, which represent, was ill, one should not predict) But here at this stage, one matter can not be ignored at all. It is not you alone whose words go in vain. On a certain date/week all astrologers can not victimized by bad annual dashas. Nearly all the astrologers of India faced embarrassment after unexpected result of cricket world cup final. So is there any mega planetary phenomena on heaven (yoga, conjunction or association on sky) which struk fame of astrologers universally (or say created doubt in public minds about validity of astrology). Regards IMRAN "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Namaste friends, The cricket predictions we had here were primarily speculative. There are no clear rules in classics for predicting a country's success in various sports. Like somebody pointed out, Indian cricket team may lose and Indian hockey team may win on the same day. We are trying to speculate and build the subject in the process. There is no basis to deem these cricket predictions as infallible. We're not there yet. Nevertheless, a wrong public prediction is a wrong public prediction. I was sure there would be something in my chart to show it. I looked at my annual Tithi Pravesha chart of 2002-03. I looked at dasamsa (D-10), because that is the chart of activities in society and public predictions are certainly covered by it. Natal data: 4 April 1970, 5:42:15 pm (IST), 81 E 08', 16 N 10' Annual TP data: 10 April 2002, 11:48:39 pm (IST) The 2nd house is the house of speech and covers predictions too. In D-10 of my annual TP chart, Aries rises and Taurus is the 2nd house. Its lord Venus is debilitated in the 6th house. With the lord of the 2nd house in marana karaka sthana (the 6th house is the marana karaka sthana for Venus), the 2nd house can be destroyed. Thus a wrong public prediction is possible in Venus dasa. I am running the Venus dasa (as per annual Tithi Ashtottari dasa) from March 21 to March 30! No wonder I had more success with cricket predictions in the previous Rahu dasa (Rahu joins Jupiter and gets his beneficence and aspects the 2nd house in D-10). As soon as Venus dasa came, my word went wrong. Debilitated Venus may also show that some passion/patriotism was the reason for the wrong prediction. Now, if you look at my 2003-04 annual TP chart (31 March 2003, 12:31:29 am), you will see that the 2nd lord Venus occupies the 2nd house Taurus in D-10 in strength. Venus has 7 rekhas and Taurus has 36 rekhas in the ashtakavarga of D-10. This strength suggests that a public prediction of mine may come true during March 31-May 30 (Venus dasa), perhaps related to war or markets or show people (Venus). Let us see. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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