Who is the God for Jupiter--to Sarabani

March 27, 2003

Dear Sarabani:

This explanation makes sense, yep, Jupiter and Venues represent

opposite ends of what we humans seek; therefore, the enmity. This

still doesn't explain why Jupiter is NOT enimical to Venus.

Maybe Jupiter is enimical to Venus. In my chart, Venus is the 7th

lord and is in conjunction with Exhalted Jupiter in the 9th house.

I've had two divorces and am about to go through the third one. It

appears that Venus being in Cancer, rashi of moon, is unhappy there

and worse is that Exhalted Jupiter is supressing the good results

that Venus gives in 9th.

Many astrologers have attempted to figure out what's so wrong in my

horoscope that my marriage breaks and each time the break causes me a

truck load of money--I guess this is because Venus is the 12th lord

as well. Birth data: June 14, 1967, 5.30 pm, Bombay India.

I think my marriages keep on breaking because of Venus' conjunction

with Exhalted Jupiter in 9th and presence of Ketu in 12th in Libra.

Well, I'm just a preliminary learner and am taking a shot at the

unusual course that my detiny has followed.

Mukund

vedic astrology, "Sarbani Sarkar"

<sarbani@s...> wrote:

> Dear Mukund,

>

> If you view Jupiter and Venus as two benefics one kind of

relationship will

> come to mind. But if you view Jupiter as the Suraguru and Venus as

the

> Asura-guru a different kind of relationship will come into light.

Also

> Jupiter is a satwa guna planet while Venus is a raja guna planet,

hence

> there will always be an internal tussle between the two. Venus in

its

> rajasik form desires everything that the satwik Jupiter rejects.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Sarbani

>

> monmuk111 [monmuk111]

> Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:36 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Who is the God for Jupiter--to PVR

>

> Hello PVR:

>

> Long time no chat. Thank you for the comprehensive answer and

> correcting the mantra I was chanting. Guru represented by the higher

> form of trinity makes sense as Jupiter is best benefic palnet

amongst

> all planets. Reading books by you and Rath and Wilhelm, I've learned

> that Jupiter is non inimical to any of the other planets, I guess

> this may be because Jupiter is a Brahmin; however, Venus is a great

> benefic and also a Brahmin, but Venus is highly inimical to Jupiter

> and Sun. Why doesn't Venus behave like a Brahmin and just do good

> like Jupiter rather then have an evil side as well.

>

> Mukund

>

> vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > Namaste Visti and Mukund,

> >

> > The mantra Mukund gave is slightly wrong. It should be "Om Gram

> Greem Groum Sah Gurave Namah". Instead of Guruveh, it should be

> Gurave. It means "to the Teacher".

> >

> > This mantra is to Jupiter. To the best of my knowledge, this

mantra

> is fine for daily practice. It is not a tantrik mantra. It increases

> intelligence. It is particularly suitable if Jupiter has an

influence

> on your paaka lagna.

> >

> > The other mantra Visti gave should be "Om NamoBhagavate Br(i)

> haspataye". Just as words ending with "a" (e.g. Rama, Krishna,

> Naaarayana, Shiva) are suffixed with "aaya" when we go to the 6th

> vibhakti form (e.g. Raamaaya, Krishnaaya, Naaraayanaaya, Shivaaya),

> the words ending with "i" get "aye" at the end (e.g. Hari and

> Brihaspati become Haraye and Brihaspataye). Similarly, words ending

> with "u" get "ave" at the end when you go to the 6th vibhakti form.

> For example, "guru" and "Bhaanu" become "gurave" and "Bhaanave".

> >

> > Of course, there are many other forms of words, but the above 3

are

> basic masculine forms. If you know that, you will realize

> that "Brihaspataaya" is wrong and it should be "Brihaspataye".

> >

> > As for other deities representing Jupiter, normally Shiva is

taken.

> If you see Parasara's verses in the section on Karakamsa, you will

> see that Shiva is attributed to Jupiter. However, one has to note

> that Jupiter represents the all-pervasive aakaasa tattva (ether

> nature). Thus the form of Shiva represented by Jupiter is Sada

Shiva.

> Similarly, Vishnu is shown by Mercury, but the all-pervasive and

> formless Narayana or Jagannatha are shown rather by Jupiter. The

> specific form of Vishnu is shown by Mercury. In other words, the

> Sustainer (Vishnu) is shown by Mercury and the Destroyer (Shiva) is

> shown by Sun, while Jupiter shows Narayana or Sada Shiva, who is a

> formless higher/unified expression of the Trinity.

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

> >

> > > > Dear Mukund,

> > > > This is a Jupiter-Graha mantra, and should be avoided in daily

> practice.

> > > > Instead follow Gauranga's advise, or worship Brhaspati with

the

> mantra: "Om Namo Bhagavate Brhaspataaya".

> > > > Best wishes

> > > > Visti

> > >

> > > Dear Members:

> > >

> > > Currenly Jupiter is transiting my 12th house and from August

> 2003

> > > onwards will transit the 1st house, both these transits are

> > > unfavorable. Birth data: June 14, 1967; Bombay India; 17.30.

> > >

> > > In order to alleviate (lessen) the results of unfavorable

> Jupiter

> > > transits, I'm chanting Jupiter mantra daily--Om Gram Greem

> Grooum Sah

> > > Guruveh Namah.

> > >

> > > What does this mantra mean? Which diety/god am I addressing

> this

> > > mantra to?

>

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March 27, 2003

Dear Mukund,

Venus as a kendradhipati is the strongest malefic amongst Shubha Grahas that get

Kendradhipati Dosha.

Chandrashekhar.

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monmuk111

vedic astrology

Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:21 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Who is the God for Jupiter--to Sarabani

Dear Sarabani:This explanation makes sense, yep, Jupiter and Venues represent

opposite ends of what we humans seek; therefore, the enmity. This still doesn't

explain why Jupiter is NOT enimical to Venus.Maybe Jupiter is enimical to Venus.

In my chart, Venus is the 7th lord and is in conjunction with Exhalted Jupiter

in the 9th house. I've had two divorces and am about to go through the third

one. It appears that Venus being in Cancer, rashi of moon, is unhappy there and

worse is that Exhalted Jupiter is supressing the good results that Venus gives

in 9th. Many astrologers have attempted to figure out what's so wrong in my

horoscope that my marriage breaks and each time the break causes me a truck

load of money--I guess this is because Venus is the 12th lord as well. Birth

data: June 14, 1967, 5.30 pm, Bombay India.I think my marriages keep on

breaking because of Venus' conjunction with Exhalted Jupiter in 9th and

presence of Ketu in 12th in Libra. Well, I'm just a preliminary learner and am

taking a shot at the unusual course that my detiny has followed.Mukund--- In

vedic astrology, "Sarbani Sarkar" <sarbani@s...> wrote:> Dear

Mukund,> > If you view Jupiter and Venus as two benefics one kind of

relationship will> come to mind. But if you view Jupiter as the Suraguru and

Venus as the> Asura-guru a different kind of relationship will come into light.

Also> Jupiter is a satwa guna planet while Venus is a raja guna planet, hence>

there will always be an internal tussle between the two. Venus in its> rajasik

form desires everything that the satwik Jupiter rejects.> > Best regards,> >

Sarbani> > > > monmuk111

[monmuk111]> Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:36 AM> To:

vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] Re: Who is the God

for Jupiter--to PVR> > > Hello PVR:> > Long time no chat. Thank you for the

comprehensive answer and> correcting the mantra I was chanting. Guru

represented by the higher> form of trinity makes sense as Jupiter is best

benefic palnet amongst> all planets. Reading books by you and Rath and Wilhelm,

I've learned> that Jupiter is non inimical to any of the other planets, I guess>

this may be because Jupiter is a Brahmin; however, Venus is a great> benefic and

also a Brahmin, but Venus is highly inimical to Jupiter> and Sun. Why doesn't

Venus behave like a Brahmin and just do good> like Jupiter rather then have an

evil side as well.> > Mukund> > vedic astrology,

"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"> <pvr@c...> wrote:> > Namaste Visti and Mukund,> >> >

The mantra Mukund gave is slightly wrong. It should be "Om Gram> Greem Groum

Sah Gurave Namah". Instead of Guruveh, it should be> Gurave. It means "to the

Teacher".> >> > This mantra is to Jupiter. To the best of my knowledge, this

mantra> is fine for daily practice. It is not a tantrik mantra. It increases>

intelligence. It is particularly suitable if Jupiter has an influence> on your

paaka lagna.> >> > The other mantra Visti gave should be "Om NamoBhagavate

Br(i)> haspataye". Just as words ending with "a" (e.g. Rama, Krishna,>

Naaarayana, Shiva) are suffixed with "aaya" when we go to the 6th> vibhakti

form (e.g. Raamaaya, Krishnaaya, Naaraayanaaya, Shivaaya),> the words ending

with "i" get "aye" at the end (e.g. Hari and> Brihaspati become Haraye and

Brihaspataye). Similarly, words ending> with "u" get "ave" at the end when you

go to the 6th vibhakti form.> For example, "guru" and "Bhaanu" become "gurave"

and "Bhaanave".> >> > Of course, there are many other forms of words, but the

above 3 are> basic masculine forms. If you know that, you will realize> that

"Brihaspataaya" is wrong and it should be "Brihaspataye".> >> > As for other

deities representing Jupiter, normally Shiva is taken.> If you see Parasara's

verses in the section on Karakamsa, you will> see that Shiva is attributed to

Jupiter. However, one has to note> that Jupiter represents the all-pervasive

aakaasa tattva (ether> nature). Thus the form of Shiva represented by Jupiter

is Sada Shiva.> Similarly, Vishnu is shown by Mercury, but the all-pervasive

and> formless Narayana or Jagannatha are shown rather by Jupiter. The> specific

form of Vishnu is shown by Mercury. In other words, the> Sustainer (Vishnu) is

shown by Mercury and the Destroyer (Shiva) is> shown by Sun, while Jupiter

shows Narayana or Sada Shiva, who is a> formless higher/unified expression of

the Trinity.> >> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> > Narasimha> >> > > > Dear

Mukund,> > > > This is a Jupiter-Graha mantra, and should be avoided in daily>

practice.> > > > Instead follow Gauranga's advise, or worship Brhaspati with

the> mantra: "Om Namo Bhagavate Brhaspataaya".> > > > Best wishes> > > > Visti>

> >> > > Dear Members:> > >> > > Currenly Jupiter is transiting my 12th

house and from August> 2003> > > onwards will transit the 1st house, both

these transits are> > > unfavorable. Birth data: June 14, 1967; Bombay India;

17.30.> > >> > > In order to alleviate (lessen) the results of unfavorable>

Jupiter> > > transits, I'm chanting Jupiter mantra daily--Om Gram Greem>

Grooum Sah> > > Guruveh Namah.> > >> > > What does this mantra mean? Which

diety/god am I addressing> this> > > mantra to?> > >

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March 27, 2003

Dear Mukund Jee,

I am sorry to hear about the marital break ups you are facing in your life so

even after being an absolute novice, I just wanted to give my novice-thought

about your chart. I expect guidence from the learned members and Gurus on the

points os mistakes.

I am getting about 6 degree scorpio lagna for you.

I believe, Jup is a benefic for you owning 5th house, and being exalted it is a

good and saving planet for you in my view. The fixed nature of Jup is to save

and here it is benefic for you, too. Jup also rules 2nd house and since 2nd

house is 8th from 7th (Death to marriage) even then I do not think Jup is a big

problem in this matter.

An imp planet in this regard is mercury since it owns the houses 8th and 11th, a

first class malefic for you. Being in own house in 8th, it is able to do enough

harm. Notice that the 8th house is for "marital tie" the widowership etc. comes

from this house.

Sun is another prob who is a trouble for the 7th house of you. Being in 29 deg

it is very weak. It aspects Lagna and is aspected by Sat, who is a great enemy

of it. Also, Sun resides in the 7th house so it has a great deal to do with

your marital things, Sun resides in the star of Mars, your Lagna lord and also

6th lord. 6th house is 12th to 7th. To me Sun is giving a lot of problem in

your married life.

Another good problem should be mars, your lagna lord itself. Owning 6th house

simultanously, it is not very good about your marital life, And it is strong

enough residing it's own star, and the problem intesifies much more when we see

it disposited by mercury, (8th lord) in 11th - 11th house rules complications.

Other minor problem is Sat, the malefic being in the star of mercury, and

aspecting the Sun in 7th. Any planet in 7th becomes so sentive about married

life, so Sat is another problem in your married life.

The basic weakness in your married life is given by Venus, it rules both 7th and

12th (6th from 7th) so Venus itself is DUAL in nature about your marriage, it is

not so promising / determined to give you marital happiness, again being in the

star of sat makes it weak about marital happiness.

To me I think Moon and Jup both are benefics for you and should be strengthened

to ensure maximum protection.

Sun, Mars and Sat are the major problems who are making each other bitter and

indirectly mercury the first class malefic is playing a key role behind the

scene. Confused ve is unable to protect your marital life.

I would like to ask you how were sat, sun, venus and mars periods in this regard

and if jup period gave you any trouble about this or not.Regards,Tanvir

"What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine."

Tanvir

Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) com http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

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monmuk111

vedic astrology

Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:51 PM