Guest guest Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 Dear Shri Sanjay Rath and List, Greetings to you all! Thank you for responding to my post and it's very much appreciated! Well, I am glad you agree with me on some of the issues that I have raised in my previous posting. I do understand and concur with what you have expressed in your prompt reply. Shri Sanjay Rath, again I wish to thank you for clarifying that this list is in fact a general discussion forum and not one specially for learning Jyotish. BTW, is there a list that yourself or the senior members on this list moderate primarily for learning Jyotish? It would be very much appreciated if you could furnish information on this at your earliest. [shri Sanjay Rath] Predictions are normally made in articles that are published in print or web at least. Shri Sanjay Rath, you have mentioned predictions being published in articles and posted on the web, right? I would greatly appreciate it, if you could kindly direct me to such publications and URLS where you and the leading astrologers on this list post their predictions. I am rather keen in acquiring the techniques and skill sets required for making successful predictions and it would be simply exhilarating to follow through the principles and techniques that yourself and the leading astrologers on this list use to make successful predictions and also to do horoscopic analysis. In my view this might be the best way to learn Jyotish especially of methods straight from learned astrologers themselves. [shri Sanjay Rath] Secondly, nobody can make consistently accurate predictions all the time. We all have our pitfalls. I do understand and agree with your point here and I am well aware that even the best of the lot are not impeccable. We all have our own pitfalls, preferred techniques and personal idiosyncrasies but this must not deter, especially the learned astrologers, to avoid predicting on a regular basis. No one needs to be consistently accurate (I think no one can in fact!) but one can consistently predict regardless of the outcome of his or her prediction. I see no reason why a competent astrologer especially the seniors members on this esteemed list should not lead the way in this regard. How else can we learn to predict if we are not willing to risk making an error? Just as in so many human endeavors (primarily in the field of science) the mindset of taking a risk while knowing very well that there is a chance of being wrong is what is very much needed in Jyotish. I suppose we must be prepared to make mistakes, and then assess what went wrong, that is the only way to learn. [shri Sanjay Rath] Nice point about post mortem - i agree as this is the best way to learn. No! I think you have misunderstood my view here. What I said was that the copious of astrological evaluation prevalent on this list after an event or the so-called post-mortem analysis runs counter to the percept of Jyotish. This is simply because anything can be picked-up from the superfluous of principles and techniques availed in the abundance of Jyotish literature, and one can even cook-up anything plausible to suit the given event after its occurrence. I think this is not going to do much in our pursuit of predictive proficiency. Perhaps, you and most on this list might disagree with me on this but you must understand, and be aware that each event even for the same individual is unique in itself and hence there is no right fit for all occasions. The extensive rate of failure and the sorry state of predictive approach of even the well-known astrologers can attest to this. This is rather conspicuous and if we take it as a cue we would not want to make the mistake of over dependency on trend or pattern alone in astrological analysis. Yes! Life is cyclic and periodicity is rather evident in our lives. I must say that there is no doubt a general pattern that prevails in individual life and also in mundane affairs; this includes the life of nations, leaders and competition outcome across the globe. But my view is that we cannot solely rely on such principles or patterns alone. Unique methods and unique principles are imperative in predicting events or results successfully; well, that's my observation. [shri Sanjay Rath] Pearl has used the Arudha which I have employed so often to find the right results. In her analysis of England vs Ireland she takes the 'favorites' to be the Lagna. Now that is not logical and if she has got 80% success, then her guess on choosing the lagna as the 'favorite' has been right 80% of the time. If she were to add a simple check of the navamsa, then the accuracy would improve. Shri Sanjay Rath, I am very keen in Pearl's methodology and I would be much obliged if you could kindly explain in detail on this if time permits. I am all the more interested coz' she is getting a fantastic 80% success rate. I would like further details on the `Favorites' to be taken as the Lagna, etc. Well, you have also mentioned the check on the Navamsa, please tell me what do you actually mean by this. This would go a long way in helping me understand these successful techniques. Well, Shri Sanjay Rath, with regards to Shri P V R Narasimha's mail that I was referring to, it is in fact on this list, please check the same for your kind attention. BTW, I really feel sorry for your suffering while you were in the government. My warmest regards and best wishes to all on the list! You have a nice day too! Thank you, Anupama vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <vyasa@s...> wrote: > > ~Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya~ > Dear Anupama, > > Is this a general discussion list or one for learning?? I thought this was for discussions and sharing of views. Predictions are normally made in articles that are published in print or web at least. Secondly, nobody can make consistently accurate predictions all the time. We all have our pitfalls. > > I do understand your point for the need to have a higher success rate and to sharpen our predictive tools. I have suffered quite a bit in government due to some predctions. Now that I am out, I can say so frankly. Everyone does not take these in the right spirit and the astrologer has to couch his words to ensure that no one is coming for his blood. Nostradamus was no exception spending years in pleasing the church. > > Nice point about post mortem - i agree as this is the best way to learn. See the tools used. Pearl has used the Arudha which I have employed so often to find the right results. In her analysis of England vs Ireland she takes the 'favorites' to be the Lagna. Now that is not logical and if she has got 80% success, then her guess on choosing the lagna as the 'favorite' has been right 80% of the time. If she were to add a simple check of the navamsa, then the accuracy would improve. I don't have a copy of the mails from Narasimha on the predictions, do forward them and we can start the post mortem. > > With best regards & have a nice day, > Sanjay Rath > ----------------------------- > H-5 BJB Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > Tel: +91-674-2436871 http://srath.com > ----------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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