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Wednesday, April 16, 2003 4:47 PM

Namaste From Rao

> Dear Gauranga Ji,

>

> Thanks for the explanation of Sadesati with your own chart. It was

> very clear. Please tell me, have you chanted Rudra Chamakkam as it

> should give some relief on SadeSati as per guru's like Sanjay Ji.

>

> Also, when Satrun transits to your Lagna in next few years, which is

> called Kantaka Shani with Ketu, what are the effects of shani you

> predict. Please tell me in detail. Aalso, is reciting Chamakam is

> good for Kantaka Shani please clarify as currently Saturn is in my

> Lagna which is Gemini.

>

> Thanks for your help in educating me in this devine science.

>

> Regards

> Rao

>

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April 23, 2003

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Gauranga Prabhu and Nemani Rao,

Gauranga Das wrote:

Dear Rao,

Namaste.

Well, Parashara advises chanting Sri Rudram, so I will not say no.

Definitely, appeasing Lord Siva is helpful. I have a Siva Lingam received from

my Guru Maharaja, but as we are Vaishnavas, we worship Him as the Guru and the

greatest Vaishnava. So I offer Him Mahaprasadam of the Salagramas every day,

along with Charanamrita. Also I chant Rna-mocana Suktam from Rg Veda, which

absolves negative karmic infleunces and debts. Another useful mantra is

Sivastaka written by Lord Caitanya, Who Himself visited many Siva-temples and

prayed to Lord Siva.

As for Lagna transit, I guess it would be spiritually good, but materially more

austere. Of ocurse it is always difficult to judge one's own chart, so I hope

others would also add afew thoughts on it.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

Jyotish Remedies:

swee (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net

Phone:+36-309-140-839

I have found something interesting

from Garuda Purana which I thought I would share with the list.

GP III.1.20---

Saunaka said:

20. You have paid homage to lord Visnu, Lakshmi, Vayu, Bharati and Vyasa.

Why this order in paying homage?

Suta said:

22-23. Visnu should be worshipped at the outset- He who is knowable through

the Vedas, Sastras and Puranas. he alone is the source of energy and illumination.

He alone is worthy of our praise. He is the supreme deity, superior to the

gods. He alone is worthy of adoration, not Siva or others. The arrogant people

who by pass Visnu and pay homage to Siva, Ganesa, Candika, Renuka, Surya,

Bhairava, Vayu, Saraswati, Parvati and Laksmi are adverse to the owrship

of Visnu. The sages have proclaimed thus.

24-25. Hence, one should not bow to each deity separately, for they are not

satisfied by individual worship. Whatever worship is rendered unto them they

reciprocate partially and at the time dedicate that worship to the supreme

lord Visnu adored by Laksmi and others.

26. O lord of birds, these deities should neither be worshipped nor saluted

by Brahmins and other castes desirous of salvation, for they are the source

of trouble here and hereafter. They grant the worshipper the dark inferior

regions.

33. The stupid who bow to the images of Siva, Vayu and others set up by the

hypocrites, the followers of Tamasa god Rudra for the attainment of desire

suffer eternally.

35. Vayu, the father of Hanuman is the preceptor of all. Hanuman is the regular

worshipper of Rama. Knowing this, one should pay homage to Visnu as well

as Hanuman, the offspring of the great god Vayu.

65. By reciting the purana one get s merit equal to that one would get by

reciting the Vedas. One who hears the Purana recited get half the merit one

gets by hearing the Vedas. If one hears the Purana recited and understands

what he hears gets tenfold of the merit of the one who hears the Vedas and

understands them.

66-67 The person who recites and understands the meaning gets twice that

merit and the commentator or expositor gets even more.

The wise declare that the purana is equal to the Vedas in the weightiness

of purpose and the greatness of glory. It is more valuable than the Vedas

so far as the meaning is concerned. This declared by those who understand

the mystery of Visnu.

68. The wise declare that the praise of Visnu and the thousand appellations

of the deity recorded in this Purana are the best among those who can bestow

merit. Listening to the two obtains tenfold or more merit one earns by hearing

the Bharata.

72-73. As Visnu is the best of Gods as Sudarsana is the best of missiles

as the horse is the best of sacrifices as Rudra is the best among the Inferior

Deities. As Ganges is the best among the rivers, lotus among the water plants,

Vayu among the Superior Deities, so Garuda is the best of all Puranas in

devotion to Visnu.

74-76 In the Garuda Purana, Visnu is the principal deity. Being worthy of

praise and easy to approach he should be honoured and worshipped at first.

After Visnu comes blissful Laksmi who is equally worthy of honour and worship.

O, Best of Brahmins, then comes Vayu, the noblest and the best among the

Brahmins and the lord of aspirants of Visnu. He should be worshipped when

the recitation of a Purana begins.

Next, the Goddess Bharati should be worshipped as she represents the Goddess

speech itself.

77. Next among men, the sage Vyasa, the author of the Puranas should be worshipped.

Being the devotee of Visnu he is entitled to worship.

Suta said:

80. Homage should be paid to Vyasa at the end while homage is rendered to

Visnu at the beginning. Visnu is the principal deity in the Puranas and Vyasa

the incarnation of speech- words and their meanings. Vyasa cannot be equated

with Visnu.

81. In the puranas dominated by Tamoguna, Vyasa is eulogised as a great sage.

82. Enticed by the knowledge of this fact, the asuras and their followers

who worship Vyasa at first in preference to Visnu enter the region of pitch

darkness. Hence, Vyasa is worshipped at the end. This knowledge is the secret

of secrets which should be kept close to the heart.

87. In lightening the burden of the earth, hanuman the son of maruti is the

principal organ of Visnu.

88. Bharati (also known as Saraswati), identical with speech, is the second

organ. Sesa is the third organ. The trio is not treated on equal terms with

Visnu.

89. They who are declared to be principal deities are worthy of worship.

Vayu and the rest are secondary, hence they are not worthy of worship on

equal terms with Visnu.

90. Among Bhima and others, Bhisma and Drona are the principal. The noblest

of the men are worthy of worship. Thus I have told you about the relative

status of the gods who are more or less worthy of worship. What else do you

wish to hear.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Best wishes,

Swee

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Wednesday, April 16, 2003 4:47 PM

Namaste From Rao

Dear Gauranga Ji,

Thanks for the explanation of Sadesati with your own chart. It was

very clear. Please tell me, have you chanted Rudra Chamakkam as it

should give some relief on SadeSati as per guru's like Sanjay Ji.

Also, when Satrun transits to your Lagna in next few years, which is

called Kantaka Shani with Ketu, what are the effects of shani you

predict. Please tell me in detail. Aalso, is reciting Chamakam is

good for Kantaka Shani please clarify as currently Saturn is in my

Lagna which is Gemini.

Thanks for your help in educating me in this devine science.

Regards

Rao

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April 23, 2003

Dear Swee,

Can

you please tell me which chapter this is in GP? From what you write, III appears

to be chapter 3, but my chapter 3 is something totally different. Also for the

benefit of the list I would like to mention that some of the most beautiful

Shiva mantras are found in the Garuda Purana. In fact this is where, Lord Hari

tells us that Shiva should be worshipped with akasha beeja “haum”.

Best

regards,

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Wednesday, April 23, 2003

4:44 PM

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Re: [vedic astrology] Re:

Namaste From Rao

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Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Gauranga Prabhu and Nemani Rao,

Gauranga Das wrote:

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..5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Namaste.

..5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">

..5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Well, Parashara advises chanting Sri Rudram, so I will not say no.

..5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Definitely, appeasing Lord Siva is helpful. I have a

Siva Lingam received from my Guru Maharaja, but as we are Vaishnavas, we worship

Him as the Guru and the greatest Vaishnava. So I offer Him Mahaprasadam of the

Salagramas every day, along with Charanamrita. Also I chant Rna-mocana Suktam

from Rg Veda, which absolves negative karmic infleunces and debts. Another

useful mantra is Sivastaka written by Lord Caitanya, Who Himself visited many

Siva-temples and prayed to Lord Siva.

..5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">

..5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">As for Lagna transit, I guess it would be

spiritually good, but materially more austere. Of ocurse it is always difficult

to judge one's own chart, so I hope others would also add afew thoughts on it.

..5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">

..5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Yours,

..5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">

..5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

..5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net

..5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> Jyotish Remedies:

..5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

..5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> Phone:+36-309-140-839

..5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">

Helvetica;color:black;font-weight:bold">I have found something interesting from

Garuda Purana which I thought I would share with the list.

GP III.1.20---

Saunaka said:

20. You have paid homage to lord Visnu, Lakshmi, Vayu, Bharati and Vyasa. Why

this order in paying homage?

Suta said:

22-23. Visnu should be worshipped at the outset- He who is knowable

through the Vedas, Sastras and Puranas. he alone is the source of energy and

illumination. He alone is worthy of our praise. He is the supreme deity,

superior to the gods. He alone is worthy of adoration, not Siva or others. The

arrogant people who by pass Visnu and pay homage to Siva, Ganesa, Candika, Renuka,

Surya, Bhairava, Vayu, Saraswati, Parvati and Laksmi are adverse to the owrship

of Visnu. The sages have proclaimed thus.

24-25. Hence, one should not bow to each deity separately, for they are not

satisfied by individual worship. Whatever worship is rendered unto them they

reciprocate partially and at the time dedicate that worship to the supreme lord

Visnu adored by Laksmi and others.

26. O lord of birds, these deities should neither be worshipped nor saluted by

Brahmins and other castes desirous of salvation, for they are the source of

trouble here and hereafter. They grant the worshipper the dark inferior

regions.

33. The stupid who bow to the images of Siva, Vayu and others set up by the

hypocrites, the followers of Tamasa god Rudra for the attainment of desire

suffer eternally.

35. Vayu, the father of Hanuman is the preceptor of all. Hanuman is the regular

worshipper of Rama. Knowing this, one should pay homage to Visnu as well as

Hanuman, the offspring of the great god Vayu.

65. By reciting the purana one get s merit equal to that one would get by

reciting the Vedas. One who hears the Purana recited get half the merit one

gets by hearing the Vedas. If one hears the Purana recited and understands what

he hears gets tenfold of the merit of the one who hears the Vedas and

understands them.

66-67 The person who recites and understands the meaning gets twice that merit

and the commentator or expositor gets even more.

The wise declare that the purana is equal to the Vedas in the weightiness of

purpose and the greatness of glory. It is more valuable than the Vedas so far

as the meaning is concerned. This declared by those who understand the mystery

of Visnu.

68. The wise declare that the praise of Visnu and the thousand appellations of

the deity recorded in this Purana are the best among those who can bestow

merit. Listening to the two obtains tenfold or more merit one earns by hearing

the Bharata.

72-73. As Visnu is the best of Gods as Sudarsana is the best of missiles as the

horse is the best of sacrifices as Rudra is the best among the Inferior

Deities. As Ganges is the best among the rivers, lotus among the water plants,

Vayu among the Superior Deities, so Garuda is the best of all Puranas in

devotion to Visnu.

74-76 In the Garuda Purana, Visnu is the principal deity. Being worthy of

praise and easy to approach he should be honoured and worshipped at

first. After Visnu comes blissful Laksmi who is equally worthy of honour and

worship. O, Best of Brahmins, then comes Vayu, the noblest and the best among the

Brahmins and the lord of aspirants of Visnu. He should be worshipped when

the recitation of a Purana begins.

Next, the Goddess Bharati should be worshipped as she represents the Goddess

speech itself.

77. Next among men, the sage Vyasa, the author of the Puranas should be

worshipped. Being the devotee of Visnu he is entitled to worship.

Suta said:

80. Homage should be paid to Vyasa at the end while homage is rendered to Visnu

at the beginning. Visnu is the principal deity in the Puranas and Vyasa the

incarnation of speech- words and their meanings. Vyasa cannot be equated with

Visnu.

81. In the puranas dominated by Tamoguna, Vyasa is eulogised as a great sage.

82. Enticed by the knowledge of this fact, the asuras and their followers who

worship Vyasa at first in preference to Visnu enter the region of pitch

darkness. Hence, Vyasa is worshipped at the end. This knowledge is the secret

of secrets which should be kept close to the heart.

87. In lightening the burden of the earth, hanuman the son of maruti is the

principal organ of Visnu.

88. Bharati (also known as Saraswati), identical with speech, is the second

organ. Sesa is the third organ. The trio is not treated on equal terms with

Visnu.

89. They who are declared to be principal deities are worthy of worship. Vayu

and the rest are secondary, hence they are not worthy of worship on equal terms

with Visnu.

90. Among Bhima and others, Bhisma and Drona are the principal. The noblest of

the men are worthy of worship. Thus I have told you about the relative status

of the gods who are more or less worthy of worship. What else do you wish to

hear.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Best wishes,

color:black">Swee

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1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Thanks for the explanation of Sadesati with your

own chart. It was

1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">very clear. Please tell me, have you chanted Rudra Chamakkam as it

1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">should give some relief on SadeSati as per guru's like Sanjay Ji.

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1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Also, when Satrun transits to your Lagna in next few years, which is

1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">called Kantaka Shani with Ketu, what are the effects of shani you

1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">predict. Please tell me in detail. Aalso, is reciting Chamakam is

1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">good for Kantaka Shani please clarify as currently Saturn is in my

1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Lagna which is Gemini.

1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">

1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Thanks for your help in educating me in this devine science.

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April 23, 2003

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Dear list members,

Namaste.

Yes, this is a very elucidating quote from the Garuda Purana. Garuda Purana is

classified as a Sattvika Purana, so it shows light to the people in the mode of

goodness, and for one who wishes to be elevated to the sattva-guna and transcend

it, the below method is recommended. Lord Vishnu is the principal Deity, and the

source of everything, so He should be worshipped a such. Those who worship His

parts and parcels on an equal level to Him or separately from Him, commit an

offense, and thus they are unable to attain the Supreme Abode.

Here in the quote we see that Lakshmi, Vayu, Bharati (Saraswati) and Vyasadeva

may be worshipped, as His devotees. Lakshmi is the Lord's pleasuer potency, so

She gives shelter to all jivas apsiring for devotion. Vayu has begot three very

famous sons: Hanuman, Bhima and Madhvacarya. All of them are the best examples

of pure devotees. Saraswati devi is the wife of Lord Brahma, who is the

grandfather of all living entities, and the transmitter of Vedic knowledge.

Because Brahma cannot be worshipped on the account of a curse, Saraswati or

Vagdevi can be worshipped instead to give us the ability to speak the truth.

Vyasa is the author of the Vedic scriptures, and He also represents the Guru.

Fortunately all these personalities are represented in the Madhva-Gaudiya

Vaishnava Sampradaya, which was spread in the world in the 20th century by His

Divine Grace Srila Bhaktivedata Swami Prabhupada, and I'm fortunate to be one

of His grand-disciples. Our Parampara begins like this:

Krishna-Brahma-Narada-Vyasa-Madhvacarya, etc. so by offering prayers to the

Guru parampara, the below process of worship outlined in the Garuda Purana is

aptly fulfilled.

Thank you Swee, for the nice quote.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies:

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839

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Swee Chan

Wednesday, April 23, 2003 1:14 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Namaste From Rao

Jaya JagannathaDear Gauranga Prabhu and Nemani Rao,Gauranga Das wrote:

Dear Rao,

Namaste.

Well, Parashara advises chanting Sri Rudram, so I will not say no.

Definitely, appeasing Lord Siva is helpful. I have a Siva Lingam received from

my Guru Maharaja, but as we are Vaishnavas, we worship Him as the Guru and the

greatest Vaishnava. So I offer Him Mahaprasadam of the Salagramas every day,

along with Charanamrita. Also I chant Rna-mocana Suktam from Rg Veda, which

absolves negative karmic infleunces and debts. Another useful mantra is

Sivastaka written by Lord Caitanya, Who Himself visited many Siva-temples and

prayed to Lord Siva.

As for Lagna transit, I guess it would be spiritually good, but materially more

austere. Of ocurse it is always difficult to judge one's own chart, so I hope

others would also add afew thoughts on it.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

Jyotish Remedies:

http://ad.adverticum.net/b/cl,1,4008,20109,25526/click.prm

Phone:+36-309-140-839

I have found something interesting from Garuda Purana which I thought I would

share with the list.GP III.1.20---Saunaka said:20. You have paid homage to lord

Visnu, Lakshmi, Vayu, Bharati and Vyasa. Why this order in paying homage?Suta

said:22-23. Visnu should be worshipped at the outset- He who is knowable

through the Vedas, Sastras and Puranas. he alone is the source of energy and

illumination. He alone is worthy of our praise. He is the supreme deity,

superior to the gods. He alone is worthy of adoration, not Siva or others. The

arrogant people who by pass Visnu and pay homage to Siva, Ganesa, Candika,

Renuka, Surya, Bhairava, Vayu, Saraswati, Parvati and Laksmi are adverse to the

owrship of Visnu. The sages have proclaimed thus.24-25. Hence, one should not

bow to each deity separately, for they are not satisfied by individual worship.

Whatever worship is rendered unto them they reciprocate partially and at the

time dedicate that worship to the supreme lord Visnu adored by Laksmi and

others.26. O lord of birds, these deities should neither be worshipped nor

saluted by Brahmins and other castes desirous of salvation, for they are the

source of trouble here and hereafter. They grant the worshipper the dark

inferior regions.33. The stupid who bow to the images of Siva, Vayu and others

set up by the hypocrites, the followers of Tamasa god Rudra for the attainment

of desire suffer eternally.35. Vayu, the father of Hanuman is the preceptor of

all. Hanuman is the regular worshipper of Rama. Knowing this, one should pay

homage to Visnu as well as Hanuman, the offspring of the great god Vayu.65. By

reciting the purana one get s merit equal to that one would get by reciting the

Vedas. One who hears the Purana recited get half the merit one gets by hearing

the Vedas. If one hears the Purana recited and understands what he hears gets

tenfold of the merit of the one who hears the Vedas and understands them.66-67

The person who recites and understands the meaning gets twice that merit and

the commentator or expositor gets even more.The wise declare that the purana is

equal to the Vedas in the weightiness of purpose and the greatness of glory. It

is more valuable than the Vedas so far as the meaning is concerned. This

declared by those who understand the mystery of Visnu.68. The wise declare that

the praise of Visnu and the thousand appellations of the deity recorded in this

Purana are the best among those who can bestow merit. Listening to the two

obtains tenfold or more merit one earns by hearing the Bharata.72-73. As Visnu

is the best of Gods as Sudarsana is the best of missiles as the horse is the

best of sacrifices as Rudra is the best among the Inferior Deities. As Ganges

is the best among the rivers, lotus among the water plants, Vayu among the

Superior Deities, so Garuda is the best of all Puranas in devotion to

Visnu.74-76 In the Garuda Purana, Visnu is the principal deity. Being worthy of

praise and easy to approach he should be honoured and worshipped at first.

After Visnu comes blissful Laksmi who is equally worthy of honour and worship.

O, Best of Brahmins, then comes Vayu, the noblest and the best among the

Brahmins and the lord of aspirants of Visnu. He should be worshipped when the

recitation of a Purana begins. Next, the Goddess Bharati should be worshipped

as she represents the Goddess speech itself.77. Next among men, the sage Vyasa,

the author of the Puranas should be worshipped. Being the devotee of Visnu he is

entitled to worship.Suta said: 80. Homage should be paid to Vyasa at the end

while homage is rendered to Visnu at the beginning. Visnu is the principal

deity in the Puranas and Vyasa the incarnation of speech- words and their

meanings. Vyasa cannot be equated with Visnu.81. In the puranas dominated by

Tamoguna, Vyasa is eulogised as a great sage.82. Enticed by the knowledge of

this fact, the asuras and their followers who worship Vyasa at first in

preference to Visnu enter the region of pitch darkness. Hence, Vyasa is

worshipped at the end. This knowledge is the secret of secrets which should be

kept close to the heart.87. In lightening the burden of the earth, hanuman the

son of maruti is the principal organ of Visnu.88. Bharati (also known as

Saraswati), identical with speech, is the second organ. Sesa is the third

organ. The trio is not treated on equal terms with Visnu.89. They who are

declared to be principal deities are worthy of worship. Vayu and the rest are

secondary, hence they are not worthy of worship on equal terms with Visnu.90.

Among Bhima and others, Bhisma and Drona are the principal. The noblest of the

men are worthy of worship. Thus I have told you about the relative status of

the gods who are more or less worthy of worship. What else do you wish to

hear.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Best wishes,Sweeswee (AT) brihaspati (DOT) netwww.brihaspati.net

-

"Rao Nemani" <raonemani >

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 4:47 PM

Namaste From Rao

Dear Gauranga Ji,

Thanks for the explanation of Sadesati with your own chart. It was

very clear. Please tell me, have you chanted Rudra Chamakkam as it

should give some relief on SadeSati as per guru's like Sanjay Ji.

Also, when Satrun transits to your Lagna in next few years, which is

called Kantaka Shani with Ketu, what are the effects of shani you

predict. Please tell me in detail. Aalso, is reciting Chamakam is

good for Kantaka Shani please clarify as currently Saturn is in my

Lagna which is Gemini.

Thanks for your help in educating me in this devine science.

Regards

Rao

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Dear Gauranga,

Saraswati is not Bharati . Bharati is the consort of Lord Vayu :-) And

when you say Vayu has got three famous sons, Hanuma, Bhima, Madhwa , they

are Vayu Avataras themselves though Hanuman is referred to as Vayu putra.

Balitta Sukta of the veda also confirms this.

Let the lord grant Gyana, Bhakti and Vairagya to his devotees..

namaskaars..

sriram nayak

Gauranga Das wrote:

JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear list members, Namaste. Yes,

this is a very elucidating quote from the Garuda Purana. Garuda Purana

is classified as a Sattvika Purana, so it shows light to the people in

the mode of goodness, and for one who wishes to be elevated to the sattva-guna

and transcend it, the below method is recommended. Lord Vishnu is the principal

Deity, and the source of everything, so He should be worshipped a such.

Those who worship His parts and parcels on an equal level to Him or separately

from Him, commit an offense, and thus they are unable to attain the Supreme

Abode. Here in the quote we see that Lakshmi, Vayu, Bharati (Saraswati)

and Vyasadeva may be worshipped, as His devotees. Lakshmi is the Lord's

pleasuer potency, so She gives shelter to all jivas apsiring for devotion.

Vayu has begot three very famous sons: Hanuman, Bhima and Madhvacarya.

All of them are the best examples of pure devotees. Saraswati devi is the

wife of Lord Brahma, who is the grandfather of all living entities, and

the transmitter of Vedic knowledge. Because Brahma cannot be worshipped

on the account of a curse, Saraswati or Vagdevi can be worshipped instead

to give us the ability to speak the truth. Vyasa is the author of the Vedic

scriptures, and He also represents the Guru. Fortunately all these personalities

are represented in the Madhva-Gaudiya Vaishnava Sampradaya, which was spread

in the world in the 20th century by His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktivedata

Swami Prabhupada, and I'm fortunate to be one of His grand-disciples. Our

Parampara begins like this: Krishna-Brahma-Narada-Vyasa-Madhvacarya, etc.

so by offering prayers to the Guru parampara, the below process of worship

outlined in the Garuda Purana is aptly fulfilled. Thank you Swee,

for the nice quote. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

Jyotish Remedies:

Phone:+36-309-140-839

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Swee Chan

Wednesday, April 23, 2003 1:14

PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re:

Namaste From Rao

Jaya

Jagannatha

Dear

Gauranga Prabhu and Nemani Rao,

Gauranga Das wrote:

Dear Rao,

Namaste.

Well, Parashara advises chanting Sri Rudram, so I will not say no.

Definitely, appeasing Lord Siva is helpful. I have a Siva Lingam received from

my Guru Maharaja, but as we are Vaishnavas, we worship Him as the Guru and the

greatest Vaishnava. So I offer Him Mahaprasadam of the Salagramas every day,

along with Charanamrita. Also I chant Rna-mocana Suktam from Rg Veda, which

absolves negative karmic infleunces and debts. Another useful mantra is

Sivastaka written by Lord Caitanya, Who Himself visited many Siva-temples and

prayed to Lord Siva.

As for Lagna transit, I guess it would be spiritually good, but materially more

austere. Of ocurse it is always difficult to judge one's own chart, so I hope

others would also add afew thoughts on it.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

Jyotish Remedies:

swee (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net

Phone:+36-309-140-839

I

have found something interesting from Garuda Purana which I thought I would

share with the list.

GP

III.1.20---

Saunaka

said:

20.

You have paid homage to lord Visnu, Lakshmi, Vayu, Bharati and Vyasa. Why

this order in paying homage?

Suta

said:

22-23.

Visnu should be worshipped at the outset- He who is knowable through

the Vedas, Sastras and Puranas. he alone is the source of energy and illumination.

He alone is worthy of our praise. He is the supreme deity, superior to

the gods. He alone is worthy of adoration, not Siva or others. The arrogant

people who by pass Visnu and pay homage to Siva, Ganesa, Candika, Renuka,

Surya, Bhairava, Vayu, Saraswati, Parvati and Laksmi are adverse to the

owrship of Visnu. The sages have proclaimed thus.

24-25.

Hence, one should not bow to each deity separately, for they are not satisfied

by individual worship. Whatever worship is rendered unto them they reciprocate

partially and at the time dedicate that worship to the supreme lord Visnu

adored by Laksmi and others.

26.

O lord of birds, these deities should neither be worshipped nor saluted

by Brahmins and other castes desirous of salvation, for they are the source

of trouble here and hereafter. They grant the worshipper the dark inferior

regions.

33.

The stupid who bow to the images of Siva, Vayu and others set up by the

hypocrites, the followers of Tamasa god Rudra for the attainment of desire

suffer eternally.

35.

Vayu, the father of Hanuman is the preceptor of all. Hanuman is the regular

worshipper of Rama. Knowing this, one should pay homage to Visnu as well

as Hanuman, the offspring of the great god Vayu.

65.

By reciting the purana one get s merit equal to that one would get by reciting

the Vedas. One who hears the Purana recited get half the merit one gets

by hearing the Vedas. If one hears the Purana recited and understands what

he hears gets tenfold of the merit of the one who hears the Vedas and understands

them.

66-67

The person who recites and understands the meaning gets twice that merit

and the commentator or expositor gets even more.

The

wise declare that the purana is equal to the Vedas in the weightiness of

purpose and the greatness of glory. It is more valuable than the Vedas

so far as the meaning is concerned. This declared by those who understand

the mystery of Visnu.

68.

The wise declare that the praise of Visnu and the thousand appellations

of the deity recorded in this Purana are the best among those who can bestow

merit. Listening to the two obtains tenfold or more merit one earns by

hearing the Bharata.

72-73.

As Visnu is the best of Gods as Sudarsana is the best of missiles as the

horse is the best of sacrifices as Rudra is the best among the Inferior

Deities. As Ganges is the best among the rivers, lotus among the water

plants, Vayu among the Superior Deities, so Garuda is the best of all Puranas

in devotion to Visnu.

74-76

In the Garuda Purana, Visnu is the principal deity. Being worthy of praise

and easy to approach he should be honoured and worshipped at

first. After Visnu comes blissful Laksmi who is equally worthy of honour

and worship. O, Best of Brahmins, then comes Vayu, the noblest and the

best among the Brahmins and the lord of aspirants of Visnu. He should be

worshipped when the recitation of a Purana begins.

Next,

the Goddess Bharati should be worshipped as she represents the Goddess

speech itself.

77.

Next among men, the sage Vyasa, the author of the Puranas should be worshipped.

Being the devotee of Visnu he is entitled to worship.

Suta

said:

80.

Homage should be paid to Vyasa at the end while homage is rendered to Visnu

at the beginning. Visnu is the principal deity in the Puranas and Vyasa

the incarnation of speech- words and their meanings. Vyasa cannot be equated

with Visnu.

81.

In the puranas dominated by Tamoguna, Vyasa is eulogised as a great sage.

82.

Enticed by the knowledge of this fact, the asuras and their followers who

worship Vyasa at first in preference to Visnu enter the region of pitch

darkness. Hence, Vyasa is worshipped at the end. This knowledge is the

secret of secrets which should be kept close to the heart.

87.

In lightening the burden of the earth, hanuman the son of maruti is the

principal organ of Visnu.

88.

Bharati (also known as Saraswati), identical with speech, is the second

organ. Sesa is the third organ. The trio is not treated on equal terms

with Visnu.

89.

They who are declared to be principal deities are worthy of worship. Vayu

and the rest are secondary, hence they are not worthy of worship on equal

terms with Visnu.

90.

Among Bhima and others, Bhisma and Drona are the principal. The noblest

of the men are worthy of worship. Thus I have told you about the relative

status of the gods who are more or less worthy of worship. What else do

you wish to hear.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Best

wishes,

Swee

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Wednesday, April 16, 2003 4:47 PM

Namaste From Rao

Dear Gauranga Ji,

Thanks for the explanation of Sadesati with your own chart. It was

very clear. Please tell me, have you chanted Rudra Chamakkam as it

should give some relief on SadeSati as per guru's like Sanjay Ji.

Also, when Satrun transits to your Lagna in next few years, which is

called Kantaka Shani with Ketu, what are the effects of shani you

predict. Please tell me in detail. Aalso, is reciting Chamakam is

good for Kantaka Shani please clarify as currently Saturn is in my

Lagna which is Gemini.

Thanks for your help in educating me in this devine science.

Regards

Rao

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Dear Swee,

Can you please tell me which chapter this is in GP? From what you write, III

appears to be chapter 3, but

my chapter 3 is something totally different. Also for the benefit of the

list I would like to mention that some of the most beautiful Shiva mantras are

found in the Garuda Purana. In fact this is where, Lord Hari tells us that

Shiva should be worshipped with akasha beeja “haum”.

Best regards,

Sarbani

Garuda Purana

Vol 3 Brahma Kanda Chapter 1

The following

is stated in SB 3.5.43

viśvasya janma-sthithi-saṁyamārthe

kṛtāvatārasya padāmbujaṁ te

vrajema sarve sharanaṁ yad iśa

smṛtaṃ prayacchaty abhayaṁ sva-puṁsām

Translation:

O Lord, You assume incarnations for the creation, maintenance and dissolution of

the cosmic manifestation, and therefore we all take shelter of Your lotus feet

because they always award rememberance and courage to Your devotees.

Purport:

For the creation, maintenance and dissolution of the cosmic manifestations there

are three in carnations: Brahma, Visnu and Mahesvara (Lord Siva). They are the

controllers or masters of the three modes of material nature, which cause the

phenomenal manifestation. Visnu is the master of the mode of goodness, Brahma

is th emaster of the mode of passion and Mahesvara is the master of the mode of

ignorance.

There are different kinds of devotees according to the modes of nature.

Persons in the mode of goodness worship Lord Visnu, those in the mode of

passion worship Lord Brahma and those in the mode of ignorance worship Lord

Siva.

All three of these deities are incarnations of the Supreme Lord Krsna because He

is the original Supreme Personality of Godhead. The demigods directly refer

to the lotus feet of the Supreme Lord and not to the different incarnations. The

incarnation of Visnu in the material world is, however, directly worshipped by

the demigods.

It is learned from various scriptures that the demigods approach Lord Visnu in

the ocean of milk and submit their griviences whenever there is some difficulty

in the administration of universal affairs. (Also refer to Padma Purana for

this).

etc. Visnu always takes the part of the demigods, but Brahma and Siva sometimes

take the side of the demons; it is not that they become one in interest with

them, but sometimes they do something in order to gain control over the demons.

In GP, it is very clear that Obeisance be

given firstly to Lord Visnu before Lord Siva (SadaSiva). Stated in the same,

Rudra was given 2 boons by Lord Visnu. Rudra, asl long as he is regarded as

the greatest devotee of Visnu can deliver salvation. Hence, the invocation

should thus be made with the following mantra first:

Om Bhuh Visnu Namah

love, Swee

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April 23, 2003

Dear Swee and Gauranga,

I am not knowledgeable in Puranas, but I think that either the translation of

the Purana is somewhat wrong or it was written by a Vaishnavaite. As there are

two distinct branches of the Hindu religion i.e. Dwaita and Adwaita followed by

vaishnavism and Shaivism, such Puranas criticising Gods other than that

worshiped by them respectively arose.

The true nature of the Lord is Niramaya, Nirakara, Anaadi and Anant.

Puranas came to be recited/written much after Upanishadas. So while taking their

literal meaning one should take it with a pinch of salt. Puranas written by

Shaivaites are also likely to proclaim Shiva to be the only God and others

either lesser Gods or much worse.

If my contention above is wrong, why do Hindus worship Lord Ganesha on all

auspicious occasion as he is son of Shiva.

It pains me when I find that the concept of lesser and greater gods is

introduced and especially when Lord Shiva is sought to be shown to be a lesser

God by Jyotishis as Jyotish itself is said to have originated from the Lord

Shiva.

I do not intend to critise any one. But I think that in quoting from Puranas we

should not forget the true form of the Lord. In Maharashtra there is a saying

whose literal translation means "let the brinjals of Puranas remain in

Puranas".

Chandrashekhar.

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Gauranga Das