Left hand,re Rahu disc.

May 2, 2003

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sanjay,

I saw your earlier post on Rahu, and also this one...can you please

tell me how deb. rahu can give spiritual benefits as you have

mentioned before..Ive been asking for more info on deb nodes,

specifically rahu in sag in this regard, but so far havent found

much.

Can you please eloborate on deb Rahu in sag?(moola nak)

Mine is in 7th house.and its lord Jup is ex but

retrograde ,vorgottama. ie. it is also 8th from its house.For these

reasons I am trying to understand how Rahu will facilitate spiritual

life.

I know about the curse on 7th house but i wanted to know about any

spiritual reprocussions.

Thank-you

With Best Wishes,

Lakshmi devi

If anyone else has any other comments or references in books to rahu

in sag in regards to spiritual affairs please reply also

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...>

wrote:

>

> ||Om brihaspataye namah||

> Dear Sri Baqaya ji,

> Namaste.

> In another mail you have quoted that (a) rahu in trines gives

excellent results, (b) Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a

trine gives excellent results and © Rahu dasa - Jupiter antardasa

gives good results

>

> A) To the first point let me make it clear that Rahu is a first

rate malefic and evil planet and shall give all the evil results

that one can possibly imagine in a chart. Now, with this premise,

when Rahu is in trines it is 'like a snake up the sleeve' are the

words of Dr Raman and to this I agree. Almost every chart with Rahu

in the fifth house has seen some terrible relationship issues

without fail, and more so if this Rahu is to conjoin or aspect

Venus. In the ninth house, Rahu is placed in its Marana Karaka

sthana and this will bring death like suffering in matters connected

to the bhava indicated by the Kumbha rasi.

>

> B). Dasa-bhukti analaysis requires a good working and broad view

of Jyotish. Here the rule given is "Rahu conjoined a lord of a

kendra placed in a trine gives excellent results" which is Correct

and I fully agree with this, but the rule is INCOMPLETE. The rule

should read "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine

gives excellent results during its dasa while the dasa of the Kendra

lord shall give apamrityu bhaya and death like suffering." This is a

very simple rule and is based on the teachings of Ramanujacarya in

Bhavartha ratnakara. When any planet conjoins Rahu, Rahu shall give

its results whereas the planet conjoining Rahu shall give the

results of Rahu during its dasa. So, Rahu dasa shall be excellent as

the Rajyoga indicated by the Kendra lord placed in a trine shall

give results. this is very simple to understand. For example, Vrisab

Lagna with rahu and Saturn in the ninth house. Rahu dasa everyone

said all kinds of things, but the native had Rajyoga. You can see

that rahu has conjoined Saturn the yogakaraka placed in the ninth

house i.e. Rahu dasa was actually behaving like Saturn dasa for

Vrisad lagna. Then when Saturn dasa came, the life has become like

hell for the native. Even hell would seem a better place. So you see

during Saturn dasa he actually got Marana Karaka Rahu results. This

happens with Rahu.

>

> C) Jupiter antardasa in Rahu dasa is the relief expected. Look at

the reverse Jupiter dasa-rahu antardasa. Why are the results

invariably so terrible? In the first case Rahu indicates the native

and Jupiter will indicate his samsara. So, native is in a Bhoga mood

with rahu dasa and the samsara is in a great giver mood in Jupiter

antardasa, so the results are good. The reverse works for Jupiter

dasa Rahu antardasa. Of course, there must be a lot more to this as

these are very general results.

>

> Finally, I too am a professional astrologer but do not sell stones

nor rituals. However selling gemstones or performing rituals is not

a bad thing. These would not be classified as vices.

>

> However, I fully agree with you that some people claiming to be

Vedic astrologers are doing such things of forcing people to do

rituals and take some magic things. It is our best intention to do

something seriously about this misuse of the name of Jyotish. Mostly

these people do not know anything and are not serious about learning

either. Thank you for pointing this out as there are many who will

share your views in this matter. Yes we have to do something soon.

>

> With best wishes & regards,

> I remain

> Sanjay Rath

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> Saturday, May 03, 2003 12:20 AM

> vedic astrology

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand

>

> My Dear, who told you that people suffer in Raahu dasha alone.How

many horoscopes you would have seen till now.When you will gain more

experience you will find that people can and do suffer in any

dasha,whether of Jupiter or venus or Sun etc.Professional

astrologers have this tendency to create some kind of a fear complex

amongst people about certain planets,so that they can force them

into rituals and make money.I hope you would appreciate that it is

easier for professional astrologers to blame a planet like

raahu,which is known to be like a serpent and thus malefic as also

known to cause grahana to luminaries.If you watch say about 100

horoscopes closely for a longish period,you will find that many

peple benefit too in Raahu dasha.Please understand that suffering

is also related to your present karma.Hope you got the point.Bye RK

>

> "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote:

> Om Namah Shivaya

> Dear RK

>

> i wonder if rahu is so beneficial, why there are many who suffer

in

> rahu dasa.

>

> regards

> partha

>

> Om Tat Sat

>

> vedic astrology, "Ramapriya D"

<hubli@v...>

> wrote:

> > Hi RK,

> >

> > Informative stuff, and very interesting. Of the 8 signs you've

> mentioned for Ra being beneficial, I'm surprised that Aq, which

he co-

> lords, is missing. Also, I would've thought that Ra in either Sg

or

> Pi is some kinda curse because they're lorded by Ju who's Ra's

> antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for why Ra in either 9H or

12H

> is considered so undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the natural

> zodiac).

> >

> > Just for interest, can you quote the specific sloka and

chapter

> numbers of BPHS where Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8

signs

> you've men tioned? Thanks again for making this an interesting

thread.

> And if you've anything similar to say about Ke, please do;

> information about the nodes isn't copious.

> >

> > Warm regards,

> >

> > Ramapriya

> > hubli@v...

> >

> > -

> > Rup Krishen Baqaya

> > vedic astrology

> > Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:45 AM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand

> >

> > Yes my dear Ram,the planet in the 8th has a chance of giving

> sickness.That is why, you will notice that in all my posts i

have

> mentioned that the totality of the circumstances is to be

seen.Let us

> say that in a particular horoscope lord of lagna is strong and

the

> native is also not running a period which can cause bad

health,there

> would be no harm in wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if

> otherwise indicated.In fact in my letter to Shankar i had

explained

> this while mentioning about the gem of a planet placed in the

6th

> house.One more point.In your post you have mentioned about Raahu

in

> the 10th being bad.Probably you don't know that many many great

men

> had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi had raahu in the 10th,so

had

> Subhash Bose,as also Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are many

others.It

> of course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For example,

i

> myself have Raahu in the 10th in the sign Taurus.Every time

Raahu

> antara came in my life,it gave me a promotion or ce rtain

incidents

> happened which raised my career profile to great heights.You see

> raahu in the

signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius

> and pisces is always capable of conferring good

effects,according to

> Parashara.And 10th house raahu is definitely not always bad.hope

this

> clarifies.Bye RK

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Dear Lakshmi,

At 08:35 PM 5/2/03 +0000, you wrote:

>Jaya Jagannatha

>Dear Sanjay,

>I saw your earlier post on Rahu, and also this one...can you please

>tell me how deb. rahu can give spiritual benefits as you have

>mentioned before..Ive been asking for more info on deb nodes,

>specifically rahu in sag in this regard, but so far havent found

>much.

See the Vimsamsa chart of Srila Sridhara Maharaja, and find AK Rahu in Sag.

in the 9th house. Note other comments re: debilitated planets in D-20

given previously by Sanjay on this as well. My book on Drig dasa will give

detailed analysis of Maharaja Sridhara's chart, especially w.r.t. to

D-20. The first item of significance is Rahu as AK, and the second relates

to debilitation (i.e. humility and surrender) in the chart of spirituality,

i.e. D-20. If Rahu is the AK, and is also debilitated, then even the

slightest thought of Tamasic activity, never even occurs to the native in

whose chart it is found. In practice, Rahu is rarely of great value

spiritually (being inimical to Sun, Moon, and Jupiter), unless he becomes

the Atmakaraka, or unless he receives the aspect of benefic Jupiter. In

that instance, it is like the demon Maya Danava agreeing to help Pandava

Maharaja Yudhisthira (a great Krsna Bhakta) by designing and creating a

mystic palace complete with illusions to bewilder the King's

enemies. Another example, is Lord Shiva's drinking the poison when the

ocean of milk was churned. Lord Shiva, being assigned rulership of the

Tamo-guna, offers purification to those of demonic temperament, although

simultaneously He does not become contaminated by their association.

All the best,

Hare Krsna,

Robert

PS Bhakti Rakshaka Sridhara deva Goswami:

Oct. 12, 1895

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May 3, 2003

Om namah shivaya

Dear Sanjayji

Beautifully explained.

Jupiter is jupiter, he forgives, so attributing forgiveness to pisces

alone is little far :-). Even sagittarius forgives.

regards

partha

Om Tat Sat

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...>

wrote:

>

> ||Om brihaspataye namah||

> Dear Lakshmi

> Hare Krishna!

>

> This is a very important question you ask and although a basic, it

contains many important points.

>

> 1. We must understand that all creation is a manifestation of

Mahavishnu as the Kaalapurusha and the Physical manifestation is also

of Bhagavan as the Vaastu Purusha. The shastra is based on this basic

presumption and spiritual hypothesis. Based on this, the first house

is His Lagna and is considered the Royal sign as well as the Satya

Yuga Rasi.

>

> 2. The 9th and 12th houses are most important houses related to

spirituality as they indicate the DHARMA and MOKSHA sthana as

activities of the Kaalapurusha. It is because of this, the ninth

house from karakamsa is seen for the Dharma devata and the 12th house

is seen for Ista devata or Moksha.

>

> 3. Since Jupiter alone has the purity to represent Bhagavan, he is

given the lordship of these two signs.

>

> Dharma (Sagittarius) is related to duty, higher learning, dharma

mantra and hence this becomes the Office (Moolatrikona) of Jupiter.

This sign is a warlike sign and is the JUDGE of the zodiac where

everything is weighed and an unbiased judgment is passed. This is the

Kodanda (Bow) of Rama, the Maharaja of the spiritual world and none,

no matter how strong and powerful they are, can cross this judgment

of Rama. There were two bows (Kodanda) one with Parasurama and the

other with Rama. Rama broke one to marry Sita and Parasurama

surrendered his Kodanda to Rama. This is the bow made by Siva and is

symbolic of the strength of Bhagavan. Any planet placed in this sign

is capable of bestowing spiritual insight through a 'spiritual

organisation' having an office. However, the kind of spiritual

learning one gets will be seen from the nature of the planet and the

house this sign falls in the horoscope.

>

> Moksha (Pisces) is related to personal attachment, bhakti and is

something which is related to the 'personal' spiritual growth and

hence this becomes the Home (own sign) of Jupiter. This is the most

peaceful sign and is quite different from Sagittarius. Pisces is

Dayaavan (kind) and ever forgiving. Without forgiveness, there can be

no moksha for anyone in this planet. Here the sins are forgiven.

Bhagavan gives through this sign, and hence any planet placed here

has a tendency to give spiritual insight and personal spiritual

growth.

>

> Now with this background, let us examine your case. The information

given is "Sagittarius has Rahu in debility in the 7th house", and

this is enough to tell us that the spiritual insight will come

through Rahu (suffering, shock, scandal and hatred) for reasons you

cannot understand and for no apparant fault of yours but something

related to spouse. You must remember that when Rama went to the

vanvas, Sita too went out of choise and no one forced Her. But in

your case, this is going to be forced as Rahu is involved. The place

shall be a spiritual organisation with an 'office' as the sign is

Sagittarius. The problem will be related to the functioning of the

office and some allegations can be made against your spouse (7th

house). You have to suffer this not because you did something in this

birth, but because of a karma related to your past incarnation. This

can happen during the period of any planet associating with Rahu or

during the transit of Juptier over Rahu in Sagittarius. There is only

one way to get over this and Rahu has to go.

>

> Effect of debility of Rahu indicates that there will be Rajyoga due

to this association and during the lifetime of the Guru (Jupiter own

Sagittarius) you will see a lot of respect and your spouse will be

respected for all the good things he does. However, when the fall

occurs, it will be terrible as the judgment of Rama cannot be stopped.

>

> The only remedy to my knowledge is the constant repetition of the

Rama Taaraka mantra. He is very kind and will deliver you from this

terrible position of Rahu in the 7th in debility. Lakshmi you will

agree - of what use is all the rajyoga of that debilitated evil node

if the end is going to be so bad. Ravana also enjoyed great rajyoga

during his life, but what an end, everything was destroyed by the

judgment of Rama. I think the present transit of Jupiter in

exaltation is going to end the suffering if any, caused by that Rahu.

>

> Sri Ram Jaya Ram Jaya Jaya Ram...

>

> With regards,

> I remain

> Sanjay Rath

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May 3, 2003

I have Jupiter ® in the second house in Saggitarius.. does it mean my

spirituality office comes thru my family. How to intepret this? Please let me

know.

Thanks!

Prakash."V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5 > wrote:

Om namah shivayaDear SanjayjiBeautifully explained.Jupiter is jupiter, he

forgives, so attributing forgiveness to pisces alone is little far :-). Even

sagittarius forgives.regardsparthaOm Tat Sat--- In

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote:> > > ||Om

brihaspataye namah||> Dear Lakshmi> Hare Krishna!> > This is a very important

question you ask and although a basic, it contains many important points.> > 1.

We must understand that all creation is a manifestation of Mahavishnu as the

Kaalapurusha and the Physical manifestation is also of Bhagavan as the Vaastu

Purusha. The shastra is based on this basic presumption and spiritual

hypothesis. Based on this, the first house is His Lagna and is considered the

Royal sign as well as the Satya Yuga Rasi. > > 2. The 9th and 12th houses are

most important houses related to spirituality as they indicate the DHARMA and

MOKSHA sthana as activities of the Kaalapurusha. It is because of this, the

ninth house from karakamsa is seen for the Dharma devata and the 12th house is

seen for Ista devata or Moksha. > > 3. Since Jupiter alone has the purity to

represent Bhagavan, he is given the lordship of these two signs. > > Dharma

(Sagittarius) is related to duty, higher learning, dharma mantra and hence this

becomes the Office (Moolatrikona) of Jupiter. This sign is a warlike sign and is

the JUDGE of the zodiac where everything is weighed and an unbiased judgment is

passed. This is the Kodanda (Bow) of Rama, the Maharaja of the spiritual world

and none, no matter how strong and powerful they are, can cross this judgment

of Rama. There were two bows (Kodanda) one with Parasurama and the other with

Rama. Rama broke one to marry Sita and Parasurama surrendered his Kodanda to

Rama. This is the bow made by Siva and is symbolic of the strength of Bhagavan.

Any planet placed in this sign is capable of bestowing spiritual insight through

a 'spiritual organisation' having an office. However, the kind of spiritual

learning one gets will be seen from the nature of the planet and the house this

sign falls in the horoscope.> > Moksha (Pisces) is related to personal

attachment, bhakti and is something which is related to the 'personal'

spiritual growth and hence this becomes the Home (own sign) of Jupiter. This is

the most peaceful sign and is quite different from Sagittarius. Pisces is

Dayaavan (kind) and ever forgiving. Without forgiveness, there can be no moksha

for anyone in this planet. Here the sins are forgiven. Bhagavan gives through

this sign, and hence any planet placed here has a tendency to give spiritual

insight and personal spiritual growth.> > Now with this background, let us

examine your case. The information given is "Sagittarius has Rahu in debility

in the 7th house", and this is enough to tell us that the spiritual insight

will come through Rahu (suffering, shock, scandal and hatred) for reasons you

cannot understand and for no apparant fault of yours but something related to

spouse. You must remember that when Rama went to the vanvas, Sita too went out

of choise and no one forced Her. But in your case, this is going to be forced

as Rahu is involved. The place shall be a spiritual organisation with an

'office' as the sign is Sagittarius. The problem will be related to the

functioning of the office and some allegations can be made against your spouse

(7th house). You have to suffer this not because you did something in this

birth, but because of a karma related to your past incarnation. This can happen

during the period of any planet associating with Rahu or during the transit of

Juptier over Rahu in Sagittarius. There is only one way to get over this and

Rahu has to go. > > Effect of debility of Rahu indicates that there will be

Rajyoga due to this association and during the lifetime of the Guru (Jupiter

own Sagittarius) you will see a lot of respect and your spouse will be

respected for all the good things he does. However, when the fall occurs, it

will be terrible as the judgment of Rama cannot be stopped.> > The only remedy

to my knowledge is the constant repetition of the Rama Taaraka mantra. He is

very kind and will deliver you from this terrible position of Rahu in the 7th

in debility. Lakshmi you will agree - of what use is all the rajyoga of that

debilitated evil node if the end is going to be so bad. Ravana also enjoyed

great rajyoga during his life, but what an end, everything was destroyed by the

judgment of Rama. I think the present transit of Jupiter in exaltation is going

to end the suffering if any, caused by that Rahu.> > Sri Ram Jaya Ram Jaya Jaya

Ram...> > With regards,> I remain> Sanjay Rath>

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SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT

AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

Dear Prakash,

May i participate? Your question is how to treat retrograde Guru placed in Dhanu

which happens to be the 2nd house isn't it? Let us see it this way. Gold coins

which have the picture of Gods/Goddesses in it can kindle either a feeling of

devotion/reverence or a feeling of pride for being in possession of Gold. The

happiness that is derived from Artha(2nd house belongs to artha trikona) does

not last long. This placement of Guru can thus provide an oscillation from

material prosperity and royal spirituality. Since 2nd house is the 6th from 9th

it can contribute a feeling that the dharmic principles are really challenging

and that some of them have been lost in the combat between dharma and adharma

that is going on ever within.

Astrologically yours,

psramanrayanan

Taureans! See what's in store. Have a great year!

May 3, 2003

Dear Gurudev,

Refer to the following:

'Dharma (Sagittarius) is related to duty, higher learning, dharma mantra and

hence this becomes the Office (Moolatrikona) of Jupiter. -------Any planet

placed in this sign is capable of bestowing spiritual insight through a

'spiritual organisation' having an office. However, the kind of spiritual

learning one gets will be seen from the nature of the planet and the house this

sign falls in the horoscope'

My query has got a connection to my own spiritual evolution. I have Mercury in

Sagittarius in 9th house for Aries lagna and Dasa of same was over by the time

I was 15.So do I presume Mercury will not be able to give any spiritual

lessons/ insights to me? Further as I am growing older(I am 45)I am moving

away from spiritual organizations and have become a spiritual loner.

With regards,

Jagmeet

PS.As I said in one of my earlier post I march to the beat of my own drummer and

am a religious liberal. I visit and have visited holy places of other religions

and have bowed my head with same reverence to all.

May 4, 2003

Thanks for the reply. You are absolutely right .. i used to go to temples often

along with like minded friends forming a spiritual circle. Nowadays i have been

away from those activities. I am also getting married in September 2003. I am

currently running venus-jupiter hence the retrogession may have played a role

as mentioned in your email. I think i have to start mixing with the spiritual

circle and keep going to the temple again.

Does the aspect of Venus and Mars from the 8th house affect the jupiter in the

2nd house? I have always found myself oscillating between spiritual and

material life.

Please let me know.

Thanks!

Prakash.

Sanjay Rath <srath (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote:

||Om brihaspataye namah||

Dear Prakash,

Look at all the people indicated by the second house. this can mean second wife

as well! It can also mean family in general or a son (Jupiter is 5th lord as

well). The place indicated is a spiritual place like a temple or some such

place conncted with spirituality. Retrogression could mean coming and going or

going to a temple with a prayer for a child. connect people and events to the

house and place to the sign. Tha is how this is done.

In fact my thinking is that you will go to a spiritual organisation where you

will find a 'new spiritual family' or a new brotherhood which will be the

blessing of Jupiter in the chart. The retrogression worries me. Don't give up

easily.

With best wishes & regards,

I remain

Sanjay Rath

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Dear Sanjayji,

I have Jupiter ® in the second house in Saggitarius.. does it mean my

spirituality office comes thru my family. How to intepret this? Please let me

know.

Thanks!

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Sure.. you can. You are correct.. I have always found myself oscillating between

material prosperity and Royal spirituality. I understand your Gold coin analogy.

Do you mean to say that this position of jupiter gives you self pride?. Since

the 2nd house is the 6 th from the ninth house will i have trouble keeping up

with the dharmic principles?

Thanks!

Prakash.

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