Left hand - opposite example

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Respected Sanjay, Baqaya, Partha and others,

 

I have been following your last mails on the subject and got a bit upset; it is

the reality of results that counts at the end of the day.

Slukas and rules are 'written theoretical definitions' until statistically

proven true. Otherwise we can expect the exact results from all charts with a

specific mutual combination, which is certainly not the case.

It will be wrong to take any single statement in isolation as a chart is a very

complex 'map'.

I trust you all will agree to that point as otherwise the entire foundation of

astrology becomes a floating one.

 

There is no doubt every mahadasa or antardasa of Rahu and Ketu in any given

chart is a challenge for every astrologer.

The issue of Rahu's combinations as a statistical key element has not yet been

proven (as far as I am aware of) and is definitely a good target for a serious

future research.

 

As a personal example I can say that my own Rahu period (1964-1982 - in

Aries/9th with lagna lord Sun and aspected by Jupiter from Sag/5th) was a very

hard and tough time with many drastical events and huge changes.

The Rahu/Jupiter period (who are in 5/9) included something that I doubt if any

of the lists 1065 members have ever been involved in.

None of the slukas/statement definitions will suit my own simple example.

 

My view is that any sluka/statement have to be supported by statistical reality

or else remain a theoretical statement.

 

With the deepest respect to all

Jay Weiss

 

 

 

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Sanjay Rath

vedic astrology

Friday, May 02, 2003 9:43 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand

 

 

||Om brihaspataye namah||

Dear Sri Baqaya ji,

Namaste.

In another mail you have quoted that (a) rahu in trines gives excellent results,

(b) Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine gives excellent results

and © Rahu dasa - Jupiter antardasa gives good results

 

A) To the first point let me make it clear that Rahu is a first rate malefic and

evil planet and shall give all the evil results that one can possibly imagine in

a chart. Now, with this premise, when Rahu is in trines it is 'like a snake up

the sleeve' are the words of Dr Raman and to this I agree. Almost every chart

with Rahu in the fifth house has seen some terrible relationship issues without

fail, and more so if this Rahu is to conjoin or aspect Venus. In the ninth

house, Rahu is placed in its Marana Karaka sthana and this will bring death

like suffering in matters connected to the bhava indicated by the Kumbha rasi.

 

B). Dasa-bhukti analaysis requires a good working and broad view of Jyotish.

Here the rule given is "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine

gives excellent results" which is Correct and I fully agree with this, but the

rule is INCOMPLETE. The rule should read "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra

placed in a trine gives excellent results during its dasa while the dasa of the

Kendra lord shall give apamrityu bhaya and death like suffering." This is a very

simple rule and is based on the teachings of Ramanujacarya in Bhavartha

ratnakara. When any planet conjoins Rahu, Rahu shall give its results whereas

the planet conjoining Rahu shall give the results of Rahu during its dasa. So,

Rahu dasa shall be excellent as the Rajyoga indicated by the Kendra lord placed

in a trine shall give results. this is very simple to understand. For example,

Vrisab Lagna with rahu and Saturn in the ninth house. Rahu dasa everyone said

all kinds of things, but the native had Rajyoga. You can see that rahu has

conjoined Saturn the yogakaraka placed in the ninth house i.e. Rahu dasa was

actually behaving like Saturn dasa for Vrisad lagna. Then when Saturn dasa

came, the life has become like hell for the native. Even hell would seem a

better place. So you see during Saturn dasa he actually got Marana Karaka Rahu

results. This happens with Rahu.

 

C) Jupiter antardasa in Rahu dasa is the relief expected. Look at the reverse

Jupiter dasa-rahu antardasa. Why are the results invariably so terrible? In the

first case Rahu indicates the native and Jupiter will indicate his samsara. So,

native is in a Bhoga mood with rahu dasa and the samsara is in a great giver

mood in Jupiter antardasa, so the results are good. The reverse works for

Jupiter dasa Rahu antardasa. Of course, there must be a lot more to this as

these are very general results.

 

Finally, I too am a professional astrologer but do not sell stones nor rituals.

However selling gemstones or performing rituals is not a bad thing. These would

not be classified as vices.

 

However, I fully agree with you that some people claiming to be Vedic

astrologers are doing such things of forcing people to do rituals and take some

magic things. It is our best intention to do something seriously about this

misuse of the name of Jyotish. Mostly these people do not know anything and are

not serious about learning either. Thank you for pointing this out as there are

many who will share your views in this matter. Yes we have to do something

soon.

 

With best wishes & regards,

I remain

Sanjay Rath

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Behalf Of Rup Krishen BaqayaSaturday, May 03, 2003 12:20 AMTo:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand

My Dear, who told you that people suffer in Raahu dasha alone.How many

horoscopes you would have seen till now.When you will gain more experience you

will find that people can and do suffer in any dasha,whether of Jupiter or

venus or Sun etc.Professional astrologers have this tendency to create some

kind of a fear complex amongst people about certain planets,so that they can

force them into rituals and make money.I hope you would appreciate that it is

easier for professional astrologers to blame a planet like raahu,which is known

to be like a serpent and thus malefic as also known to cause grahana to

luminaries.If you watch say about 100 horoscopes closely for a longish

period,you will find that many peple benefit too in Raahu dasha.Please

understand that suffering is also related to your present karma.Hope you got

the point.Bye RK"V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5 > wrote: Om Namah

ShivayaDear RKi wonder if rahu is so beneficial, why there are many who suffer

in rahu dasa.regardsparthaOm Tat Satvedic astrology,

"Ramapriya D" <hubli@v...> wrote:> Hi RK,> > Informative stuff, and very

interesting. Of the 8 signs you've mentioned for Ra being beneficial, I'm

surprised that Aq, which he co-lords, is missing. Also, I would've thought that

Ra in either Sg or Pi is some kinda curse because they're lorded by Ju who's

Ra's antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for why Ra in either 9H or 12H is

considered so undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the natural zodiac).> > Just

for interest, can you quote the specific sloka and chapter numbers of BPHS

where Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8 signs you've men tioned? Thanks

again for making this an interesting thread. And if you've anything similar to

say about Ke, please do; information about the nodes isn't copious.> > Warm

regards,> > Ramapriya> hubli@v...> > - >

Rup Krishen Baqaya > vedic astrology > Thursday,

May 01, 2003 8:45 AM> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> > > Yes

my dear Ram,the planet in the 8th has a chance of giving sickness.That is why,

you will notice that in all my posts i have mentioned that the totality of the

circumstances is to be seen.Let us say that in a particular horoscope lord of

lagna is strong and the native is also not running a period which can cause bad

health,there would be no harm in wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if

otherwise indicated.In fact in my letter to Shankar i had explained this while

mentioning about the gem of a planet placed in the 6th house.One more point.In

your post you have mentioned about Raahu in the 10th being bad.Probably you

don't know that many many great men had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi had

raahu in the 10th,so had Subhash Bose,as also Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are

many others.It of course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For example,

i myself have Raahu in the 10th in the sign Taurus.Every time Raahu antara came

in my life,it gave me a promotion or ce rtain incidents happened which raised

my career profile to great heights.You see raahu in the

signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius and pisces is always

capable of conferring good effects,according to Parashara.And 10th house raahu

is definitely not always bad.hope this clarifies.Bye RKArchives:

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