Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 Om Namah shivaya Dear Jay Good point about stastical research. But, my point about 'suffering' in rahu dasa is simple. Whether you get tonnes of money or suffer in penury, rahu always harasses. It makes you lose your sleep and makes every day of life full of tensions. So whatever experts and others may say about money or no-money, rahu gives suffering. yet to see a guy who says i was happy in rahu dasa. regards partha Om Tat Sat vedic astrology, "J. Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote: > Respected Sanjay, Baqaya, Partha and others, > > I have been following your last mails on the subject and got a bit upset; it is the reality of results that counts at the end of the day. > Slukas and rules are 'written theoretical definitions' until statistically proven true. Otherwise we can expect the exact results from all charts with a specific mutual combination, which is certainly not the case. > It will be wrong to take any single statement in isolation as a chart is a very complex 'map'. > I trust you all will agree to that point as otherwise the entire foundation of astrology becomes a floating one. > > There is no doubt every mahadasa or antardasa of Rahu and Ketu in any given chart is a challenge for every astrologer. > The issue of Rahu's combinations as a statistical key element has not yet been proven (as far as I am aware of) and is definitely a good target for a serious future research. > > As a personal example I can say that my own Rahu period (1964-1982 - in Aries/9th with lagna lord Sun and aspected by Jupiter from Sag/5th) was a very hard and tough time with many drastical events and huge changes. > The Rahu/Jupiter period (who are in 5/9) included something that I doubt if any of the lists 1065 members have ever been involved in. > None of the slukas/statement definitions will suit my own simple example. > > My view is that any sluka/statement have to be supported by statistical reality or else remain a theoretical statement. > > With the deepest respect to all > Jay Weiss > > > > - > Sanjay Rath > vedic astrology > Friday, May 02, 2003 9:43 PM > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand > > > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah|| > Dear Sri Baqaya ji, > Namaste. > In another mail you have quoted that (a) rahu in trines gives excellent results, (b) Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine gives excellent results and © Rahu dasa - Jupiter antardasa gives good results > > A) To the first point let me make it clear that Rahu is a first rate malefic and evil planet and shall give all the evil results that one can possibly imagine in a chart. Now, with this premise, when Rahu is in trines it is 'like a snake up the sleeve' are the words of Dr Raman and to this I agree. Almost every chart with Rahu in the fifth house has seen some terrible relationship issues without fail, and more so if this Rahu is to conjoin or aspect Venus. In the ninth house, Rahu is placed in its Marana Karaka sthana and this will bring death like suffering in matters connected to the bhava indicated by the Kumbha rasi. > > B). Dasa-bhukti analaysis requires a good working and broad view of Jyotish. Here the rule given is "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine gives excellent results" which is Correct and I fully agree with this, but the rule is INCOMPLETE. The rule should read "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine gives excellent results during its dasa while the dasa of the Kendra lord shall give apamrityu bhaya and death like suffering." This is a very simple rule and is based on the teachings of Ramanujacarya in Bhavartha ratnakara. When any planet conjoins Rahu, Rahu shall give its results whereas the planet conjoining Rahu shall give the results of Rahu during its dasa. So, Rahu dasa shall be excellent as the Rajyoga indicated by the Kendra lord placed in a trine shall give results. this is very simple to understand. For example, Vrisab Lagna with rahu and Saturn in the ninth house. Rahu dasa everyone said all kinds of things, but the native had Rajyoga. You can see that rahu has conjoined Saturn the yogakaraka placed in the ninth house i.e. Rahu dasa was actually behaving like Saturn dasa for Vrisad lagna. Then when Saturn dasa came, the life has become like hell for the native. Even hell would seem a better place. So you see during Saturn dasa he actually got Marana Karaka Rahu results. This happens with Rahu. > > C) Jupiter antardasa in Rahu dasa is the relief expected. Look at the reverse Jupiter dasa-rahu antardasa. Why are the results invariably so terrible? In the first case Rahu indicates the native and Jupiter will indicate his samsara. So, native is in a Bhoga mood with rahu dasa and the samsara is in a great giver mood in Jupiter antardasa, so the results are good. The reverse works for Jupiter dasa Rahu antardasa. Of course, there must be a lot more to this as these are very general results. > > Finally, I too am a professional astrologer but do not sell stones nor rituals. However selling gemstones or performing rituals is not a bad thing. These would not be classified as vices. > > However, I fully agree with you that some people claiming to be Vedic astrologers are doing such things of forcing people to do rituals and take some magic things. It is our best intention to do something seriously about this misuse of the name of Jyotish. Mostly these people do not know anything and are not serious about learning either. Thank you for pointing this out as there are many who will share your views in this matter. Yes we have to do something soon. > > With best wishes & regards, > I remain > Sanjay Rath > -------- > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com > -------- > > sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r... [sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r...]On Behalf Of Rup Krishen Baqaya > Saturday, May 03, 2003 12:20 AM > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand > > > My Dear, who told you that people suffer in Raahu dasha alone.How many horoscopes you would have seen till now.When you will gain more experience you will find that people can and do suffer in any dasha,whether of Jupiter or venus or Sun etc.Professional astrologers have this tendency to create some kind of a fear complex amongst people about certain planets,so that they can force them into rituals and make money.I hope you would appreciate that it is easier for professional astrologers to blame a planet like raahu,which is known to be like a serpent and thus malefic as also known to cause grahana to luminaries.If you watch say about 100 horoscopes closely for a longish period,you will find that many peple benefit too in Raahu dasha.Please understand that suffering is also related to your present karma.Hope you got the point.Bye RK > > "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > Om Namah Shivaya > Dear RK > > > i wonder if rahu is so beneficial, why there are many who suffer in > rahu dasa. > > regards > partha > > Om Tat Sat > > > > > vedic astrology, "Ramapriya D" <hubli@v...> > wrote: > > Hi RK, > > > > Informative stuff, and very interesting. Of the 8 signs you've > mentioned for Ra being beneficial, I'm surprised that Aq, which he co- > lords, is missing. Also, I would've thought that Ra in either Sg or > Pi is some kinda curse because they're lorded by Ju who's Ra's > antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for why Ra in either 9H or 12H > is considered so undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the natural > zodiac). > > > > Just for interest, can you quote the specific sloka and chapter > numbers of BPHS where Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8 signs > you've men tioned? Thanks again for making this an interesting thread. > And if you've anything similar to say about Ke, please do; > information about the nodes isn't copious. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Ramapriya > > hubli@v... > > > > - > > Rup Krishen Baqaya > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:45 AM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand > > > > > > Yes my dear Ram,the planet in the 8th has a chance of giving > sickness.That is why, you will notice that in all my posts i have > mentioned that the totality of the circumstances is to be seen.Let us > say that in a particular horoscope lord of lagna is strong and the > native is also not running a period which can cause bad health,there > would be no harm in wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if > otherwise indicated.In fact in my letter to Shankar i had explained > this while mentioning about the gem of a planet placed in the 6th > house.One more point.In your post you have mentioned about Raahu in > the 10th being bad.Probably you don't know that many many great men > had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi had raahu in the 10th,so had > Subhash Bose,as also Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are many others.It > of course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For example, i > myself have Raahu in the 10th in the sign Taurus.Every time Raahu > antara came in my life,it gave me a promotion or ce rtain incidents > happened which raised my career profile to great heights.You see > raahu in the signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius > and pisces is always capable of conferring good effects,according to > Parashara.And 10th house raahu is definitely not always bad.hope this > clarifies.Bye RK > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > -- ---------- > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 Dear Partha, I tend to agree with you due to the experience that I have from the charts in my possession. Maybe one day it will be possible to collect enough (like a few thousands) "Rahu dasa" charts (and others) with accompanied actual period description and run some statistics on them. Regards /Jay - "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5 <vedic astrology> Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:57 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example > Om Namah shivaya > Dear Jay > > Good point about stastical research. But, my point about 'suffering' > in rahu dasa is simple. Whether you get tonnes of money or suffer in > penury, rahu always harasses. It makes you lose your sleep and makes > every day of life full of tensions. So whatever experts and others > may say about money or no-money, rahu gives suffering. yet to see a > guy who says i was happy in rahu dasa. > regards > partha > Om Tat Sat > > vedic astrology, "J. Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote: > > Respected Sanjay, Baqaya, Partha and others, > > > > I have been following your last mails on the subject and got a bit > upset; it is the reality of results that counts at the end of the day. > > Slukas and rules are 'written theoretical definitions' until > statistically proven true. Otherwise we can expect the exact results > from all charts with a specific mutual combination, which is > certainly not the case. > > It will be wrong to take any single statement in isolation as a > chart is a very complex 'map'. > > I trust you all will agree to that point as otherwise the entire > foundation of astrology becomes a floating one. > > > > There is no doubt every mahadasa or antardasa of Rahu and Ketu in > any given chart is a challenge for every astrologer. > > The issue of Rahu's combinations as a statistical key element has > not yet been proven (as far as I am aware of) and is definitely a > good target for a serious future research. > > > > As a personal example I can say that my own Rahu period (1964-1982 - > in Aries/9th with lagna lord Sun and aspected by Jupiter from > Sag/5th) was a very hard and tough time with many drastical events > and huge changes. > > The Rahu/Jupiter period (who are in 5/9) included something that I > doubt if any of the lists 1065 members have ever been involved in. > > None of the slukas/statement definitions will suit my own simple > example. > > > > My view is that any sluka/statement have to be supported by > statistical reality or else remain a theoretical statement. > > > > With the deepest respect to all > > Jay Weiss > > > > > > > > - > > Sanjay Rath > > vedic astrology > > Friday, May 02, 2003 9:43 PM > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand > > > > > > > > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah|| > > Dear Sri Baqaya ji, > > Namaste. > > In another mail you have quoted that (a) rahu in trines gives > excellent results, (b) Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a > trine gives excellent results and © Rahu dasa - Jupiter antardasa > gives good results > > > > A) To the first point let me make it clear that Rahu is a first > rate malefic and evil planet and shall give all the evil results that > one can possibly imagine in a chart. Now, with this premise, when > Rahu is in trines it is 'like a snake up the sleeve' are the words of > Dr Raman and to this I agree. Almost every chart with Rahu in the > fifth house has seen some terrible relationship issues without fail, > and more so if this Rahu is to conjoin or aspect Venus. In the ninth > house, Rahu is placed in its Marana Karaka sthana and this will bring > death like suffering in matters connected to the bhava indicated by > the Kumbha rasi. > > > > B). Dasa-bhukti analaysis requires a good working and broad view > of Jyotish. Here the rule given is "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra > placed in a trine gives excellent results" which is Correct and I > fully agree with this, but the rule is INCOMPLETE. The rule should > read "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine gives > excellent results during its dasa while the dasa of the Kendra lord > shall give apamrityu bhaya and death like suffering." This is a very > simple rule and is based on the teachings of Ramanujacarya in > Bhavartha ratnakara. When any planet conjoins Rahu, Rahu shall give > its results whereas the planet conjoining Rahu shall give the results > of Rahu during its dasa. So, Rahu dasa shall be excellent as the > Rajyoga indicated by the Kendra lord placed in a trine shall give > results. this is very simple to understand. For example, Vrisab Lagna > with rahu and Saturn in the ninth house. Rahu dasa everyone said all > kinds of things, but the native had Rajyoga. You can see that rahu > has conjoined Saturn the yogakaraka placed in the ninth house i.e. > Rahu dasa was actually behaving like Saturn dasa for Vrisad lagna. > Then when Saturn dasa came, the life has become like hell for the > native. Even hell would seem a better place. So you see during Saturn > dasa he actually got Marana Karaka Rahu results. This happens with > Rahu. > > > > C) Jupiter antardasa in Rahu dasa is the relief expected. Look at > the reverse Jupiter dasa-rahu antardasa. Why are the results > invariably so terrible? In the first case Rahu indicates the native > and Jupiter will indicate his samsara. So, native is in a Bhoga mood > with rahu dasa and the samsara is in a great giver mood in Jupiter > antardasa, so the results are good. The reverse works for Jupiter > dasa Rahu antardasa. Of course, there must be a lot more to this as > these are very general results. > > > > Finally, I too am a professional astrologer but do not sell > stones nor rituals. However selling gemstones or performing rituals > is not a bad thing. These would not be classified as vices. > > > > However, I fully agree with you that some people claiming to be > Vedic astrologers are doing such things of forcing people to do > rituals and take some magic things. It is our best intention to do > something seriously about this misuse of the name of Jyotish. Mostly > these people do not know anything and are not serious about learning > either. Thank you for pointing this out as there are many who will > share your views in this matter. Yes we have to do something soon. > > > > With best wishes & regards, > > I remain > > Sanjay Rath > > > -------- > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com > > > -------- > > > > sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r... > [sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r...]On Behalf > Of Rup Krishen Baqaya > > Saturday, May 03, 2003 12:20 AM > > vedic astrology > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand > > > > > > My Dear, who told you that people suffer in Raahu dasha alone.How > many horoscopes you would have seen till now.When you will gain more > experience you will find that people can and do suffer in any > dasha,whether of Jupiter or venus or Sun etc.Professional astrologers > have this tendency to create some kind of a fear complex amongst > people about certain planets,so that they can force them into rituals > and make money.I hope you would appreciate that it is easier for > professional astrologers to blame a planet like raahu,which is known > to be like a serpent and thus malefic as also known to cause grahana > to luminaries.If you watch say about 100 horoscopes closely for a > longish period,you will find that many peple benefit too in Raahu > dasha.Please understand that suffering is also related to your > present karma.Hope you got the point.Bye RK > > > > "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > > Om Namah Shivaya > > Dear RK > > > > > > i wonder if rahu is so beneficial, why there are many who > suffer in > > rahu dasa. > > > > regards > > partha > > > > Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Ramapriya D" > <hubli@v...> > > wrote: > > > Hi RK, > > > > > > Informative stuff, and very interesting. Of the 8 signs > you've > > mentioned for Ra being beneficial, I'm surprised that Aq, which > he co- > > lords, is missing. Also, I would've thought that Ra in either > Sg or > > Pi is some kinda curse because they're lorded by Ju who's Ra's > > antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for why Ra in either 9H or > 12H > > is considered so undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the > natural > > zodiac). > > > > > > Just for interest, can you quote the specific sloka and > chapter > > numbers of BPHS where Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8 > signs > > you've men tioned? Thanks again for making this an interesting > thread. > > And if you've anything similar to say about Ke, please do; > > information about the nodes isn't copious. > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > Ramapriya > > > hubli@v... > > > > > > - > > > Rup Krishen Baqaya > > > vedic astrology > > > Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:45 AM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand > > > > > > > > > Yes my dear Ram,the planet in the 8th has a chance of > giving > > sickness.That is why, you will notice that in all my posts i > have > > mentioned that the totality of the circumstances is to be > seen.Let us > > say that in a particular horoscope lord of lagna is strong and > the > > native is also not running a period which can cause bad > health,there > > would be no harm in wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if > > otherwise indicated.In fact in my letter to Shankar i had > explained > > this while mentioning about the gem of a planet placed in the > 6th > > house.One more point.In your post you have mentioned about > Raahu in > > the 10th being bad.Probably you don't know that many many great > men > > had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi had raahu in the 10th,so > had > > Subhash Bose,as also Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are many > others.It > > of course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For > example, i > > myself have Raahu in the 10th in the sign Taurus.Every time > Raahu > > antara came in my life,it gave me a promotion or ce rtain > incidents > > happened which raised my career profile to great heights.You > see > > raahu in the > signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius > > and pisces is always capable of conferring good > effects,according to > > Parashara.And 10th house raahu is definitely not always > bad.hope this > > clarifies.Bye RK > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > -- > ---------- > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 Dear Jay and Partha, Would Rahu Mahadasha be bad even if he is placed in upachayas? Chandrashekhar. - J. Weiss vedic astrology Saturday, May 03, 2003 6:04 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example Dear Partha,I tend to agree with you due to the experience that I have from the chartsin my possession.Maybe one day it will be possible to collect enough (like a few thousands)"Rahu dasa" charts (and others) with accompanied actual period descriptionand run some statistics on them.Regards/Jay----- Original Message ----- "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5 >To: <vedic astrology>Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:57 AMSubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example> Om Namah shivaya> Dear Jay>> Good point about stastical research. But, my point about 'suffering'> in rahu dasa is simple. Whether you get tonnes of money or suffer in> penury, rahu always harasses. It makes you lose your sleep and makes> every day of life full of tensions. So whatever experts and others> may say about money or no-money, rahu gives suffering. yet to see a> guy who says i was happy in rahu dasa.> regards> partha> Om Tat Sat>> vedic astrology, "J. Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:> > Respected Sanjay, Baqaya, Partha and others,> >> > I have been following your last mails on the subject and got a bit> upset; it is the reality of results that counts at the end of the day.> > Slukas and rules are 'written theoretical definitions' until> statistically proven true. Otherwise we can expect the exact results> from all charts with a specific mutual combination, which is> certainly not the case.> > It will be wrong to take any single statement in isolation as a> chart is a very complex 'map'.> > I trust you all will agree to that point as otherwise the entire> foundation of astrology becomes a floating one.> >> > There is no doubt every mahadasa or antardasa of Rahu and Ketu in> any given chart is a challenge for every astrologer.> > The issue of Rahu's combinations as a statistical key element has> not yet been proven (as far as I am aware of) and is definitely a> good target for a serious future research.> >> > As a personal example I can say that my own Rahu period (1964-1982 -> in Aries/9th with lagna lord Sun and aspected by Jupiter from> Sag/5th) was a very hard and tough time with many drastical events> and huge changes.> > The Rahu/Jupiter period (who are in 5/9) included something that I> doubt if any of the lists 1065 members have ever been involved in.> > None of the slukas/statement definitions will suit my own simple> example.> >> > My view is that any sluka/statement have to be supported by> statistical reality or else remain a theoretical statement.> >> > With the deepest respect to all> > Jay Weiss> >> >> >> > - > > Sanjay Rath> > vedic astrology> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:43 PM> > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> >> >> >> >> > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > Dear Sri Baqaya ji,> > Namaste.> > In another mail you have quoted that (a) rahu in trines gives> excellent results, (b) Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a> trine gives excellent results and © Rahu dasa - Jupiter antardasa> gives good results> >> > A) To the first point let me make it clear that Rahu is a first> rate malefic and evil planet and shall give all the evil results that> one can possibly imagine in a chart. Now, with this premise, when> Rahu is in trines it is 'like a snake up the sleeve' are the words of> Dr Raman and to this I agree. Almost every chart with Rahu in the> fifth house has seen some terrible relationship issues without fail,> and more so if this Rahu is to conjoin or aspect Venus. In the ninth> house, Rahu is placed in its Marana Karaka sthana and this will bring> death like suffering in matters connected to the bhava indicated by> the Kumbha rasi.> >> > B). Dasa-bhukti analaysis requires a good working and broad view> of Jyotish. Here the rule given is "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra> placed in a trine gives excellent results" which is Correct and I> fully agree with this, but the rule is INCOMPLETE. The rule should> read "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine gives> excellent results during its dasa while the dasa of the Kendra lord> shall give apamrityu bhaya and death like suffering." This is a very> simple rule and is based on the teachings of Ramanujacarya in> Bhavartha ratnakara. When any planet conjoins Rahu, Rahu shall give> its results whereas the planet conjoining Rahu shall give the results> of Rahu during its dasa. So, Rahu dasa shall be excellent as the> Rajyoga indicated by the Kendra lord placed in a trine shall give> results. this is very simple to understand. For example, Vrisab Lagna> with rahu and Saturn in the ninth house. Rahu dasa everyone said all> kinds of things, but the native had Rajyoga. You can see that rahu> has conjoined Saturn the yogakaraka placed in the ninth house i.e.> Rahu dasa was actually behaving like Saturn dasa for Vrisad lagna.> Then when Saturn dasa came, the life has become like hell for the> native. Even hell would seem a better place. So you see during Saturn> dasa he actually got Marana Karaka Rahu results. This happens with> Rahu.> >> > C) Jupiter antardasa in Rahu dasa is the relief expected. Look at> the reverse Jupiter dasa-rahu antardasa. Why are the results> invariably so terrible? In the first case Rahu indicates the native> and Jupiter will indicate his samsara. So, native is in a Bhoga mood> with rahu dasa and the samsara is in a great giver mood in Jupiter> antardasa, so the results are good. The reverse works for Jupiter> dasa Rahu antardasa. Of course, there must be a lot more to this as> these are very general results.> >> > Finally, I too am a professional astrologer but do not sell> stones nor rituals. However selling gemstones or performing rituals> is not a bad thing. These would not be classified as vices.> >> > However, I fully agree with you that some people claiming to be> Vedic astrologers are doing such things of forcing people to do> rituals and take some magic things. It is our best intention to do> something seriously about this misuse of the name of Jyotish. Mostly> these people do not know anything and are not serious about learning> either. Thank you for pointing this out as there are many who will> share your views in this matter. Yes we have to do something soon.> >> > With best wishes & regards,> > I remain> > Sanjay Rath> > > --------> > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > --------> > > > sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r...> [sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r...]On Behalf> Of Rup Krishen Baqaya> > Saturday, May 03, 2003 12:20 AM> > To: vedic astrology> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> >> >> > My Dear, who told you that people suffer in Raahu dasha alone.How> many horoscopes you would have seen till now.When you will gain more> experience you will find that people can and do suffer in any> dasha,whether of Jupiter or venus or Sun etc.Professional astrologers> have this tendency to create some kind of a fear complex amongst> people about certain planets,so that they can force them into rituals> and make money.I hope you would appreciate that it is easier for> professional astrologers to blame a planet like raahu,which is known> to be like a serpent and thus malefic as also known to cause grahana> to luminaries.If you watch say about 100 horoscopes closely for a> longish period,you will find that many peple benefit too in Raahu> dasha.Please understand that suffering is also related to your> present karma.Hope you got the point.Bye RK> >> > "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote:> > Om Namah Shivaya> > Dear RK> >> >> > i wonder if rahu is so beneficial, why there are many who> suffer in> > rahu dasa.> >> > regards> > partha> >> > Om Tat Sat> >> >> >> >> > vedic astrology, "Ramapriya D"> <hubli@v...>> > wrote:> > > Hi RK,> > >> > > Informative stuff, and very interesting. Of the 8 signs> you've> > mentioned for Ra being beneficial, I'm surprised that Aq, which> he co-> > lords, is missing. Also, I would've thought that Ra in either> Sg or> > Pi is some kinda curse because they're lorded by Ju who's Ra's> > antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for why Ra in either 9H or> 12H> > is considered so undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the> natural> > zodiac).> > >> > > Just for interest, can you quote the specific sloka and> chapter> > numbers of BPHS where Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8> signs> > you've men tioned? Thanks again for making this an interesting> thread.> > And if you've anything similar to say about Ke, please do;> > information about the nodes isn't copious.> > >> > > Warm regards,> > >> > > Ramapriya> > > hubli@v...> > >> > > - > > > Rup Krishen Baqaya> > > vedic astrology> > > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:45 AM> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> > >> > >> > > Yes my dear Ram,the planet in the 8th has a chance of> giving> > sickness.That is why, you will notice that in all my posts i> have> > mentioned that the totality of the circumstances is to be> seen.Let us> > say that in a particular horoscope lord of lagna is strong and> the> > native is also not running a period which can cause bad> health,there> > would be no harm in wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if> > otherwise indicated.In fact in my letter to Shankar i had> explained> > this while mentioning about the gem of a planet placed in the> 6th> > house.One more point.In your post you have mentioned about> Raahu in> > the 10th being bad.Probably you don't know that many many great> men> > had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi had raahu in the 10th,so> had> > Subhash Bose,as also Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are many> others.It> > of course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For> example, i> > myself have Raahu in the 10th in the sign Taurus.Every time> Raahu> > antara came in my life,it gave me a promotion or ce rtain> incidents> > happened which raised my career profile to great heights.You> see> > raahu in the> signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius> > and pisces is always capable of conferring good> effects,according to> > Parashara.And 10th house raahu is definitely not always> bad.hope this> > clarifies.Bye RK> >> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > >> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 Dear Chandrashekhar, As I understand it some issues will be enhanced while others damaged, all in accordance with those attributed to Rahu as well as to it's lord and eventually planet(s) associated with him. As an example for the 11th house one may see increased income while suffering some illness (ears?) or mixing with bad company. Also, take into consideration the various aspects influencing Rahu (for better or worse). Regards /Jay - Chandrashekhar vedic astrology Saturday, May 03, 2003 9:12 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example Dear Jay and Partha, Would Rahu Mahadasha be bad even if he is placed in upachayas? - J. Weiss vedic astrology Saturday, May 03, 2003 6:04 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example Dear Partha,I tend to agree with you due to the experience that I have from the chartsin my possession.Maybe one day it will be possible to collect enough (like a few thousands)"Rahu dasa" charts (and others) with accompanied actual period descriptionand run some statistics on them.Regards/Jay----- Original Message ----- "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5 >To: <vedic astrology>Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:57 AMSubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example> Om Namah shivaya> Dear Jay>> Good point about stastical research. But, my point about 'suffering'> in rahu dasa is simple. Whether you get tonnes of money or suffer in> penury, rahu always harasses. It makes you lose your sleep and makes> every day of life full of tensions. So whatever experts and others> may say about money or no-money, rahu gives suffering. yet to see a> guy who says i was happy in rahu dasa.> regards> partha> Om Tat Sat>> vedic astrology, "J. Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:> > Respected Sanjay, Baqaya, Partha and others,> >> > I have been following your last mails on the subject and got a bit> upset; it is the reality of results that counts at the end of the day.> > Slukas and rules are 'written theoretical definitions' until> statistically proven true. Otherwise we can expect the exact results> from all charts with a specific mutual combination, which is> certainly not the case.> > It will be wrong to take any single statement in isolation as a> chart is a very complex 'map'.> > I trust you all will agree to that point as otherwise the entire> foundation of astrology becomes a floating one.> >> > There is no doubt every mahadasa or antardasa of Rahu and Ketu in> any given chart is a challenge for every astrologer.> > The issue of Rahu's combinations as a statistical key element has> not yet been proven (as far as I am aware of) and is definitely a> good target for a serious future research.> >> > As a personal example I can say that my own Rahu period (1964-1982 -> in Aries/9th with lagna lord Sun and aspected by Jupiter from> Sag/5th) was a very hard and tough time with many drastical events> and huge changes.> > The Rahu/Jupiter period (who are in 5/9) included something that I> doubt if any of the lists 1065 members have ever been involved in.> > None of the slukas/statement definitions will suit my own simple> example.> >> > My view is that any sluka/statement have to be supported by> statistical reality or else remain a theoretical statement.> >> > With the deepest respect to all> > Jay Weiss> >> >> >> > - > > Sanjay Rath> > vedic astrology> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:43 PM> > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> >> >> >> >> > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > Dear Sri Baqaya ji,> > Namaste.> > In another mail you have quoted that (a) rahu in trines gives> excellent results, (b) Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a> trine gives excellent results and © Rahu dasa - Jupiter antardasa> gives good results> >> > A) To the first point let me make it clear that Rahu is a first> rate malefic and evil planet and shall give all the evil results that> one can possibly imagine in a chart. Now, with this premise, when> Rahu is in trines it is 'like a snake up the sleeve' are the words of> Dr Raman and to this I agree. Almost every chart with Rahu in the> fifth house has seen some terrible relationship issues without fail,> and more so if this Rahu is to conjoin or aspect Venus. In the ninth> house, Rahu is placed in its Marana Karaka sthana and this will bring> death like suffering in matters connected to the bhava indicated by> the Kumbha rasi.> >> > B). Dasa-bhukti analaysis requires a good working and broad view> of Jyotish. Here the rule given is "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra> placed in a trine gives excellent results" which is Correct and I> fully agree with this, but the rule is INCOMPLETE. The rule should> read "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine gives> excellent results during its dasa while the dasa of the Kendra lord> shall give apamrityu bhaya and death like suffering." This is a very> simple rule and is based on the teachings of Ramanujacarya in> Bhavartha ratnakara. When any planet conjoins Rahu, Rahu shall give> its results whereas the planet conjoining Rahu shall give the results> of Rahu during its dasa. So, Rahu dasa shall be excellent as the> Rajyoga indicated by the Kendra lord placed in a trine shall give> results. this is very simple to understand. For example, Vrisab Lagna> with rahu and Saturn in the ninth house. Rahu dasa everyone said all> kinds of things, but the native had Rajyoga. You can see that rahu> has conjoined Saturn the yogakaraka placed in the ninth house i.e.> Rahu dasa was actually behaving like Saturn dasa for Vrisad lagna.> Then when Saturn dasa came, the life has become like hell for the> native. Even hell would seem a better place. So you see during Saturn> dasa he actually got Marana Karaka Rahu results. This happens with> Rahu.> >> > C) Jupiter antardasa in Rahu dasa is the relief expected. Look at> the reverse Jupiter dasa-rahu antardasa. Why are the results> invariably so terrible? In the first case Rahu indicates the native> and Jupiter will indicate his samsara. So, native is in a Bhoga mood> with rahu dasa and the samsara is in a great giver mood in Jupiter> antardasa, so the results are good. The reverse works for Jupiter> dasa Rahu antardasa. Of course, there must be a lot more to this as> these are very general results.> >> > Finally, I too am a professional astrologer but do not sell> stones nor rituals. However selling gemstones or performing rituals> is not a bad thing. These would not be classified as vices.> >> > However, I fully agree with you that some people claiming to be> Vedic astrologers are doing such things of forcing people to do> rituals and take some magic things. It is our best intention to do> something seriously about this misuse of the name of Jyotish. Mostly> these people do not know anything and are not serious about learning> either. Thank you for pointing this out as there are many who will> share your views in this matter. Yes we have to do something soon.> >> > With best wishes & regards,> > I remain> > Sanjay Rath> > > --------> > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > --------> > > > sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r...> [sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r...]On Behalf> Of Rup Krishen Baqaya> > Saturday, May 03, 2003 12:20 AM> > To: vedic astrology> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> >> >> > My Dear, who told you that people suffer in Raahu dasha alone.How> many horoscopes you would have seen till now.When you will gain more> experience you will find that people can and do suffer in any> dasha,whether of Jupiter or venus or Sun etc.Professional astrologers> have this tendency to create some kind of a fear complex amongst> people about certain planets,so that they can force them into rituals> and make money.I hope you would appreciate that it is easier for> professional astrologers to blame a planet like raahu,which is known> to be like a serpent and thus malefic as also known to cause grahana> to luminaries.If you watch say about 100 horoscopes closely for a> longish period,you will find that many peple benefit too in Raahu> dasha.Please understand that suffering is also related to your> present karma.Hope you got the point.Bye RK> >> > "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote:> > Om Namah Shivaya> > Dear RK> >> >> > i wonder if rahu is so beneficial, why there are many who> suffer in> > rahu dasa.> >> > regards> > partha> >> > Om Tat Sat> >> >> >> >> > vedic astrology, "Ramapriya D"> <hubli@v...>> > wrote:> > > Hi RK,> > >> > > Informative stuff, and very interesting. Of the 8 signs> you've> > mentioned for Ra being beneficial, I'm surprised that Aq, which> he co-> > lords, is missing. Also, I would've thought that Ra in either> Sg or> > Pi is some kinda curse because they're lorded by Ju who's Ra's> > antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for why Ra in either 9H or> 12H> > is considered so undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the> natural> > zodiac).> > >> > > Just for interest, can you quote the specific sloka and> chapter> > numbers of BPHS where Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8> signs> > you've men tioned? Thanks again for making this an interesting> thread.> > And if you've anything similar to say about Ke, please do;> > information about the nodes isn't copious.> > >> > > Warm regards,> > >> > > Ramapriya> > > hubli@v...> > >> > > - > > > Rup Krishen Baqaya> > > vedic astrology> > > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:45 AM> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> > >> > >> > > Yes my dear Ram,the planet in the 8th has a chance of> giving> > sickness.That is why, you will notice that in all my posts i> have> > mentioned that the totality of the circumstances is to be> seen.Let us> > say that in a particular horoscope lord of lagna is strong and> the> > native is also not running a period which can cause bad> health,there> > would be no harm in wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if> > otherwise indicated.In fact in my letter to Shankar i had> explained> > this while mentioning about the gem of a planet placed in the> 6th> > house.One more point.In your post you have mentioned about> Raahu in> > the 10th being bad.Probably you don't know that many many great> men> > had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi had raahu in the 10th,so> had> > Subhash Bose,as also Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are many> others.It> > of course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For> example, i> > myself have Raahu in the 10th in the sign Taurus.Every time> Raahu> > antara came in my life,it gave me a promotion or ce rtain> incidents> > happened which raised my career profile to great heights.You> see> > raahu in the> signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius> > and pisces is always capable of conferring good> effects,according to> > Parashara.And 10th house raahu is definitely not always> bad.hope this> > clarifies.Bye RK> >> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > >> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Respected Chandrasekharji, Namaste. May i participate? The general rule is that any malefic placed in upachayas are supposed to do /to be good. Now this word good is a relative term. Let us see this in this manner. Assuming tha X/Y/Z is in search of a good son-in-law. Now somebody gives two horoscopes and says that one is very dharmic and a hero in true sense but one problem is that he would be kept behind bars for a period of 14 years while the other horoscope is that of a person who is enjoying a kingly status and behaves in an authoritative and aggressive manner doing whatever he likes. There is every possibility that the father might choose the king to be his son-in-law rather than the hero who might be sentenced to 14 years of imprisonment. Good or bad is a relative term. It is all perception. Now coming to the point of placement of Rahu in upachayas. Upachaya sthanas represent the free will of the native. If Rahu is found placed in the upachaya sthana then it would definitely influence the native in his free will. It will induce materialistic tendencies which ofcourse in terms of prosperity indicates growth. This 3rd placed Rahu will ofcourse be in 9th to the 7th/kalatra sthana. When the individual concentrates in his material growth Rahu might be conentrating in making his mark in relationship sectors. When the Rahu is placed in 6th it throws a great challenge to the individual and on account of the strength of Guru if the individual survives he might become a great siddha(6th also rules siddhi). Here Rahu would be in 9th with reference to the 10th house which would become a cause of worry to the individual. When the Rahu is placed in 10th house there may be frequent travels which might disturb the kutumba/family life though the travel might help in the growth of material prosperity of the individual.(10th placed Rahu can give pilgrimage also). When the Rahu is placed in 11th it can help in the recovery of items lost, it can help in the fulfillment of material desires, it can bring in gains(questionable means) at the same time it can be detrimental to the growth of younger co-borns(9th from 3rd). Being in 11th called otherwise Hara - Kshetra it can punish the individual. It also gives a hint about the sufferings of the elder co-born. To fight Rahu we definitely need the support of Guru. During the period of Rahu it is better when the individual goes after his Bratru-karaka/Guru devatha and prays fervently. Guru paduka will help in the upliftment of the individual. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Jay and Partha, Would Rahu Mahadasha be bad even if he is placed in upachayas? Chandrashekhar. - J. Weiss vedic astrology Saturday, May 03, 2003 6:04 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example Dear Partha,I tend to agree with you due to the experience that I have from the chartsin my possession.Maybe one day it will be possible to collect enough (like a few thousands)"Rahu dasa" charts (and others) with accompanied actual period descriptionand run some statistics on them.Regards/Jay----- Original Message ----- "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5 >To: <vedic astrology>Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:57 AMSubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example> Om Namah shivaya> Dear Jay>> Good point about stastical research. But, my point about 'suffering'> in rahu dasa is simple. Whether you get tonnes of money or suffer in> penury, rahu always harasses. It makes you lose your sleep and makes> every day of life full of tensions. So whatever experts and others> may say about money or no-money, rahu gives suffering. yet to see a> guy who says i was happy in rahu dasa.> regards> partha> Om Tat Sat>> vedic astrology, "J. Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:> > Respected Sanjay, Baqaya, Partha and others,> >> > I have been following your last mails on the subject and got a bit> upset; it is the reality of results that counts at the end of the day.> > Slukas and rules are 'written theoretical definitions' until> statistically proven true. Otherwise we can expect the exact results> from all charts with a specific mutual combination, which is> certainly not the case.> > It will be wrong to take any single statement in isolation as a> chart is a very complex 'map'.> > I trust you all will agree to that point as otherwise the entire> foundation of astrology becomes a floating one.> >> > There is no doubt every mahadasa or antardasa of Rahu and Ketu in> any given chart is a challenge for every astrologer.> > The issue of Rahu's combinations as a statistical key element has> not yet been proven (as far as I am aware of) and is definitely a> good target for a serious future research.> >> > As a personal example I can say that my own Rahu period (1964-1982 -> in Aries/9th with lagna lord Sun and aspected by Jupiter from> Sag/5th) was a very hard and tough time with many drastical events> and huge changes.> > The Rahu/Jupiter period (who are in 5/9) included something that I> doubt if any of the lists 1065 members have ever been involved in.> > None of the slukas/statement definitions will suit my own simple> example.> >> > My view is that any sluka/statement have to be supported by> statistical reality or else remain a theoretical statement.> >> > With the deepest respect to all> > Jay Weiss> >> >> >> > - > > Sanjay Rath> > vedic astrology> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:43 PM> > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> >> >> >> >> > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > Dear Sri Baqaya ji,> > Namaste.> > In another mail you have quoted that (a) rahu in trines gives> excellent results, (b) Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a> trine gives excellent results and © Rahu dasa - Jupiter antardasa> gives good results> >> > A) To the first point let me make it clear that Rahu is a first> rate malefic and evil planet and shall give all the evil results that> one can possibly imagine in a chart. Now, with this premise, when> Rahu is in trines it is 'like a snake up the sleeve' are the words of> Dr Raman and to this I agree. Almost every chart with Rahu in the> fifth house has seen some terrible relationship issues without fail,> and more so if this Rahu is to conjoin or aspect Venus. In the ninth> house, Rahu is placed in its Marana Karaka sthana and this will bring> death like suffering in matters connected to the bhava indicated by> the Kumbha rasi.> >> > B). Dasa-bhukti analaysis requires a good working and broad view> of Jyotish. Here the rule given is "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra> placed in a trine gives excellent results" which is Correct and I> fully agree with this, but the rule is INCOMPLETE. The rule should> read "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine gives> excellent results during its dasa while the dasa of the Kendra lord> shall give apamrityu bhaya and death like suffering." This is a very> simple rule and is based on the teachings of Ramanujacarya in> Bhavartha ratnakara. When any planet conjoins Rahu, Rahu shall give> its results whereas the planet conjoining Rahu shall give the results> of Rahu during its dasa. So, Rahu dasa shall be excellent as the> Rajyoga indicated by the Kendra lord placed in a trine shall give> results. this is very simple to understand. For example, Vrisab Lagna> with rahu and Saturn in the ninth house. Rahu dasa everyone said all> kinds of things, but the native had Rajyoga. You can see that rahu> has conjoined Saturn the yogakaraka placed in the ninth house i.e.> Rahu dasa was actually behaving like Saturn dasa for Vrisad lagna.> Then when Saturn dasa came, the life has become like hell for the> native. Even hell would seem a better place. So you see during Saturn> dasa he actually got Marana Karaka Rahu results. This happens with> Rahu.> >> > C) Jupiter antardasa in Rahu dasa is the relief expected. Look at> the reverse Jupiter dasa-rahu antardasa. Why are the results> invariably so terrible? In the first case Rahu indicates the native> and Jupiter will indicate his samsara. So, native is in a Bhoga mood> with rahu dasa and the samsara is in a great giver mood in Jupiter> antardasa, so the results are good. The reverse works for Jupiter> dasa Rahu antardasa. Of course, there must be a lot more to this as> these are very general results.> >> > Finally, I too am a professional astrologer but do not sell> stones nor rituals. However selling gemstones or performing rituals> is not a bad thing. These would not be classified as vices.> >> > However, I fully agree with you that some people claiming to be> Vedic astrologers are doing such things of forcing people to do> rituals and take some magic things. It is our best intention to do> something seriously about this misuse of the name of Jyotish. Mostly> these people do not know anything and are not serious about learning> either. Thank you for pointing this out as there are many who will> share your views in this matter. Yes we have to do something soon.> >> > With best wishes & regards,> > I remain> > Sanjay Rath> > > --------> > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > --------> > > > sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r...> [sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r...]On Behalf> Of Rup Krishen Baqaya> > Saturday, May 03, 2003 12:20 AM> > To: vedic astrology> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> >> >> > My Dear, who told you that people suffer in Raahu dasha alone.How> many horoscopes you would have seen till now.When you will gain more> experience you will find that people can and do suffer in any> dasha,whether of Jupiter or venus or Sun etc.Professional astrologers> have this tendency to create some kind of a fear complex amongst> people about certain planets,so that they can force them into rituals> and make money.I hope you would appreciate that it is easier for> professional astrologers to blame a planet like raahu,which is known> to be like a serpent and thus malefic as also known to cause grahana> to luminaries.If you watch say about 100 horoscopes closely for a> longish period,you will find that many peple benefit too in Raahu> dasha.Please understand that suffering is also related to your> present karma.Hope you got the point.Bye RK> >> > "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote:> > Om Namah Shivaya> > Dear RK> >> >> > i wonder if rahu is so beneficial, why there are many who> suffer in> > rahu dasa.> >> > regards> > partha> >> > Om Tat Sat> >> >> >> >> > vedic astrology, "Ramapriya D"> <hubli@v...>> > wrote:> > > Hi RK,> > >> > > Informative stuff, and very interesting. Of the 8 signs> you've> > mentioned for Ra being beneficial, I'm surprised that Aq, which> he co-> > lords, is missing. Also, I would've thought that Ra in either> Sg or> > Pi is some kinda curse because they're lorded by Ju who's Ra's> > antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for why Ra in either 9H or> 12H> > is considered so undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the> natural> > zodiac).> > >> > > Just for interest, can you quote the specific sloka and> chapter> > numbers of BPHS where Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8> signs> > you've men tioned? Thanks again for making this an interesting> thread.> > And if you've anything similar to say about Ke, please do;> > information about the nodes isn't copious.> > >> > > Warm regards,> > >> > > Ramapriya> > > hubli@v...> > >> > > - > > > Rup Krishen Baqaya> > > vedic astrology> > > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:45 AM> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> > >> > >> > > Yes my dear Ram,the planet in the 8th has a chance of> giving> > sickness.That is why, you will notice that in all my posts i> have> > mentioned that the totality of the circumstances is to be> seen.Let us> > say that in a particular horoscope lord of lagna is strong and> the> > native is also not running a period which can cause bad> health,there> > would be no harm in wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if> > otherwise indicated.In fact in my letter to Shankar i had> explained> > this while mentioning about the gem of a planet placed in the> 6th> > house.One more point.In your post you have mentioned about> Raahu in> > the 10th being bad.Probably you don't know that many many great> men> > had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi had raahu in the 10th,so> had> > Subhash Bose,as also Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are many> others.It> > of course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For> example, i> > myself have Raahu in the 10th in the sign Taurus.Every time> Raahu> > antara came in my life,it gave me a promotion or ce rtain> incidents> > happened which raised my career profile to great heights.You> see> > raahu in the> signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius> > and pisces is always capable of conferring good> effects,according to> > Parashara.And 10th house raahu is definitely not always> bad.hope this> > clarifies.Bye RK> >> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > >> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 Dear Ramanarayanan, What you have said is true but this is the case with all planets. What I was trying to bring out was Rahu can not be held bad empirically. If we continue the examples given by you even Jupiter in 5th causes problems for Progeny, specially if exalted and so does the native's marital life get affected with Jupiter's placement in 7th house specially in exaltation. But no body calls him to give bad results always. Chandrashekhar. - rama narayanan vedic astrology Sunday, May 04, 2003 8:40 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Respected Chandrasekharji, Namaste. May i participate? The general rule is that any malefic placed in upachayas are supposed to do /to be good. Now this word good is a relative term. Let us see this in this manner. Assuming tha X/Y/Z is in search of a good son-in-law. Now somebody gives two horoscopes and says that one is very dharmic and a hero in true sense but one problem is that he would be kept behind bars for a period of 14 years while the other horoscope is that of a person who is enjoying a kingly status and behaves in an authoritative and aggressive manner doing whatever he likes. There is every possibility that the father might choose the king to be his son-in-law rather than the hero who might be sentenced to 14 years of imprisonment. Good or bad is a relative term. It is all perception. Now coming to the point of placement of Rahu in upachayas. Upachaya sthanas represent the free will of the native. If Rahu is found placed in the upachaya sthana then it would definitely influence the native in his free will. It will induce materialistic tendencies which ofcourse in terms of prosperity indicates growth. This 3rd placed Rahu will ofcourse be in 9th to the 7th/kalatra sthana. When the individual concentrates in his material growth Rahu might be conentrating in making his mark in relationship sectors. When the Rahu is placed in 6th it throws a great challenge to the individual and on account of the strength of Guru if the individual survives he might become a great siddha(6th also rules siddhi). Here Rahu would be in 9th with reference to the 10th house which would become a cause of worry to the individual. When the Rahu is placed in 10th house there may be frequent travels which might disturb the kutumba/family life though the travel might help in the growth of material prosperity of the individual.(10th placed Rahu can give pilgrimage also). When the Rahu is placed in 11th it can help in the recovery of items lost, it can help in the fulfillment of material desires, it can bring in gains(questionable means) at the same time it can be detrimental to the growth of younger co-borns(9th from 3rd). Being in 11th called otherwise Hara - Kshetra it can punish the individual. It also gives a hint about the sufferings of the elder co-born. To fight Rahu we definitely need the support of Guru. During the period of Rahu it is better when the individual goes after his Bratru-karaka/Guru devatha and prays fervently. Guru paduka will help in the upliftment of the individual. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Jay and Partha, Would Rahu Mahadasha be bad even if he is placed in upachayas? Chandrashekhar. - J. Weiss vedic astrology Saturday, May 03, 2003 6:04 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example Dear Partha,I tend to agree with you due to the experience that I have from the chartsin my possession.Maybe one day it will be possible to collect enough (like a few thousands)"Rahu dasa" charts (and others) with accompanied actual period descriptionand run some statistics on them.Regards/Jay----- Original Message ----- "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5 >To: <vedic astrology>Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:57 AMSubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example> Om Namah shivaya> Dear Jay>> Good point about stastical research. But, my point about 'suffering'> in rahu dasa is simple. Whether you get tonnes of money or suffer in> penury, rahu always harasses. It makes you lose your sleep and makes> every day of life full of tensions. So whatever experts and others> may say about money or no-money, rahu gives suffering. yet to see a> guy who says i was happy in rahu dasa.> regards> partha> Om Tat Sat>> vedic astrology, "J. Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:> > Respected Sanjay, Baqaya, Partha and others,> >> > I have been following your last mails on the subject and got a bit> upset; it is the reality of results that counts at the end of the day.> > Slukas and rules are 'written theoretical definitions' until> statistically proven true. Otherwise we can expect the exact results> from all charts with a specific mutual combination, which is> certainly not the case.> > It will be wrong to take any single statement in isolation as a> chart is a very complex 'map'.> > I trust you all will agree to that point as otherwise the entire> foundation of astrology becomes a floating one.> >> > There is no doubt every mahadasa or antardasa of Rahu and Ketu in> any given chart is a challenge for every astrologer.> > The issue of Rahu's combinations as a statistical key element has> not yet been proven (as far as I am aware of) and is definitely a> good target for a serious future research.> >> > As a personal example I can say that my own Rahu period (1964-1982 -> in Aries/9th with lagna lord Sun and aspected by Jupiter from> Sag/5th) was a very hard and tough time with many drastical events> and huge changes.> > The Rahu/Jupiter period (who are in 5/9) included something that I> doubt if any of the lists 1065 members have ever been involved in.> > None of the slukas/statement definitions will suit my own simple> example.> >> > My view is that any sluka/statement have to be supported by> statistical reality or else remain a theoretical statement.> >> > With the deepest respect to all> > Jay Weiss> >> >> >> > - > > Sanjay Rath> > vedic astrology> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:43 PM> > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> >> >> >> >> > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > Dear Sri Baqaya ji,> > Namaste.> > In another mail you have quoted that (a) rahu in trines gives> excellent results, (b) Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a> trine gives excellent results and © Rahu dasa - Jupiter antardasa> gives good results> >> > A) To the first point let me make it clear that Rahu is a first> rate malefic and evil planet and shall give all the evil results that> one can possibly imagine in a chart. Now, with this premise, when> Rahu is in trines it is 'like a snake up the sleeve' are the words of> Dr Raman and to this I agree. Almost every chart with Rahu in the> fifth house has seen some terrible relationship issues without fail,> and more so if this Rahu is to conjoin or aspect Venus. In the ninth> house, Rahu is placed in its Marana Karaka sthana and this will bring> death like suffering in matters connected to the bhava indicated by> the Kumbha rasi.> >> > B). Dasa-bhukti analaysis requires a good working and broad view> of Jyotish. Here the rule given is "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra> placed in a trine gives excellent results" which is Correct and I> fully agree with this, but the rule is INCOMPLETE. The rule should> read "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine gives> excellent results during its dasa while the dasa of the Kendra lord> shall give apamrityu bhaya and death like suffering." This is a very> simple rule and is based on the teachings of Ramanujacarya in> Bhavartha ratnakara. When any planet conjoins Rahu, Rahu shall give> its results whereas the planet conjoining Rahu shall give the results> of Rahu during its dasa. So, Rahu dasa shall be excellent as the> Rajyoga indicated by the Kendra lord placed in a trine shall give> results. this is very simple to understand. For example, Vrisab Lagna> with rahu and Saturn in the ninth house. Rahu dasa everyone said all> kinds of things, but the native had Rajyoga. You can see that rahu> has conjoined Saturn the yogakaraka placed in the ninth house i.e.> Rahu dasa was actually behaving like Saturn dasa for Vrisad lagna.> Then when Saturn dasa came, the life has become like hell for the> native. Even hell would seem a better place. So you see during Saturn> dasa he actually got Marana Karaka Rahu results. This happens with> Rahu.> >> > C) Jupiter antardasa in Rahu dasa is the relief expected. Look at> the reverse Jupiter dasa-rahu antardasa. Why are the results> invariably so terrible? In the first case Rahu indicates the native> and Jupiter will indicate his samsara. So, native is in a Bhoga mood> with rahu dasa and the samsara is in a great giver mood in Jupiter> antardasa, so the results are good. The reverse works for Jupiter> dasa Rahu antardasa. Of course, there must be a lot more to this as> these are very general results.> >> > Finally, I too am a professional astrologer but do not sell> stones nor rituals. However selling gemstones or performing rituals> is not a bad thing. These would not be classified as vices.> >> > However, I fully agree with you that some people claiming to be> Vedic astrologers are doing such things of forcing people to do> rituals and take some magic things. It is our best intention to do> something seriously about this misuse of the name of Jyotish. Mostly> these people do not know anything and are not serious about learning> either. Thank you for pointing this out as there are many who will> share your views in this matter. Yes we have to do something soon.> >> > With best wishes & regards,> > I remain> > Sanjay Rath> > > --------> > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > --------> > > > sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r...> [sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r...]On Behalf> Of Rup Krishen Baqaya> > Saturday, May 03, 2003 12:20 AM> > To: vedic astrology> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> >> >> > My Dear, who told you that people suffer in Raahu dasha alone.How> many horoscopes you would have seen till now.When you will gain more> experience you will find that people can and do suffer in any> dasha,whether of Jupiter or venus or Sun etc.Professional astrologers> have this tendency to create some kind of a fear complex amongst> people about certain planets,so that they can force them into rituals> and make money.I hope you would appreciate that it is easier for> professional astrologers to blame a planet like raahu,which is known> to be like a serpent and thus malefic as also known to cause grahana> to luminaries.If you watch say about 100 horoscopes closely for a> longish period,you will find that many peple benefit too in Raahu> dasha.Please understand that suffering is also related to your> present karma.Hope you got the point.Bye RK> >> > "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote:> > Om Namah Shivaya> > Dear RK> >> >> > i wonder if rahu is so beneficial, why there are many who> suffer in> > rahu dasa.> >> > regards> > partha> >> > Om Tat Sat> >> >> >> >> > vedic astrology, "Ramapriya D"> <hubli@v...>> > wrote:> > > Hi RK,> > >> > > Informative stuff, and very interesting. Of the 8 signs> you've> > mentioned for Ra being beneficial, I'm surprised that Aq, which> he co-> > lords, is missing. Also, I would've thought that Ra in either> Sg or> > Pi is some kinda curse because they're lorded by Ju who's Ra's> > antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for why Ra in either 9H or> 12H> > is considered so undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the> natural> > zodiac).> > >> > > Just for interest, can you quote the specific sloka and> chapter> > numbers of BPHS where Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8> signs> > you've men tioned? Thanks again for making this an interesting> thread.> > And if you've anything similar to say about Ke, please do;> > information about the nodes isn't copious.> > >> > > Warm regards,> > >> > > Ramapriya> > > hubli@v...> > >> > > - > > > Rup Krishen Baqaya> > > vedic astrology> > > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:45 AM> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> > >> > >> > > Yes my dear Ram,the planet in the 8th has a chance of> giving> > sickness.That is why, you will notice that in all my posts i> have> > mentioned that the totality of the circumstances is to be> seen.Let us> > say that in a particular horoscope lord of lagna is strong and> the> > native is also not running a period which can cause bad> health,there> > would be no harm in wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if> > otherwise indicated.In fact in my letter to Shankar i had> explained> > this while mentioning about the gem of a planet placed in the> 6th> > house.One more point.In your post you have mentioned about> Raahu in> > the 10th being bad.Probably you don't know that many many great> men> > had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi had raahu in the 10th,so> had> > Subhash Bose,as also Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are many> others.It> > of course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For> example, i> > myself have Raahu in the 10th in the sign Taurus.Every time> Raahu> > antara came in my life,it gave me a promotion or ce rtain> incidents> > happened which raised my career profile to great heights.You> see> > raahu in the> signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius> > and pisces is always capable of conferring good> effects,according to> > Parashara.And 10th house raahu is definitely not always> bad.hope this> > clarifies.Bye RK> >> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > >> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Your use of is subject to the Terms of> Service.> >> >> >> > --> ----------> > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > >> > > >> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Your use of is subject to the Terms of> Service.> >> > Sponsor> > > >> >> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > >> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Your use of is subject to the Terms of> Service.>>>> Archives: vedic astrology>> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... 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Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 OM KLEEM KRSHNAAYA NAMAH Dear Jay Weiss and other members, Actually ,I have told about Kodanda Rahu to Parag and this has been expalined to me by one Kerala Jyotishya Scholar from Mangalore.He was explaining to me that Rahu when placed in Dhanu is called as Kodanda Rahu and it gives a lot of material wealth during its Dasa-Antar Dasa provided its sign dispositor Guru is placed in 3,5,9 or 11th from Rahu.Also Rahu's placement Poorvashada Nakshatra is considered good in giving such results.Also in Vrishabha,Mithuna,Kanya and Tula navamshas he does better.Also in natal chart,this Kodanda Rahu must be either in 3,5,9 and 11th with its dispositor Guru placed in same position explained above.But this Rahu may not give spiritual experiences.Also please go through BPHS Volume-2 ( Sagar Publications ) Page no.257,where the author explains thus: Results of Rahu's Antar Dasa in Rahu's Maha Dasa : Position of Rahu in Karka,Vrischika or Dhanu delivers felicitations from King,cloths,vehicles,ornaments,copious profits in business,gains of animals and acquisition of cloths and vehicles dring the visits to the west.He mentions only if Rahu is posited in 2nd,7th,8th or 12th is considered bad and also with any malefics. Many ancient authors differ in their views about this Rahu Dasa. I hope this helps. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. "J. Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar, As I understand it some issues will be enhanced while others damaged, all in accordance with those attributed to Rahu as well as to it's lord and eventually planet(s) associated with him. As an example for the 11th house one may see increased income while suffering some illness (ears?) or mixing with bad company. Also, take into consideration the various aspects influencing Rahu (for better or worse). Regards /Jay - Chandrashekhar vedic astrology Saturday, May 03, 2003 9:12 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example Dear Jay and Partha, Would Rahu Mahadasha be bad even if he is placed in upachayas? - J. Weiss vedic astrology Saturday, May 03, 2003 6:04 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example Dear Partha,I tend to agree with you due to the experience that I have from the chartsin my possession.Maybe one day it will be possible to collect enough (like a few thousands)"Rahu dasa" charts (and others) with accompanied actual period descriptionand run some statistics on them.Regards/Jay----- Original Message ----- "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5 >To: <vedic astrology>Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:57 AMSubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example> Om Namah shivaya> Dear Jay>> Good point about stastical research. But, my point about 'suffering'> in rahu dasa is simple. Whether you get tonnes of money or suffer in> penury, rahu always harasses. It makes you lose your sleep and makes> every day of life full of tensions. So whatever experts and others> may say about money or no-money, rahu gives suffering. yet to see a> guy who says i was happy in rahu dasa.> regards> partha> Om Tat Sat>> vedic astrology, "J. Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:> > Respected Sanjay, Baqaya, Partha and others,> >> > I have been following your last mails on the subject and got a bit> upset; it is the reality of results that counts at the end of the day.> > Slukas and rules are 'written theoretical definitions' until> statistically proven true. Otherwise we can expect the exact results> from all charts with a specific mutual combination, which is> certainly not the case.> > It will be wrong to take any single statement in isolation as a> chart is a very complex 'map'.> > I trust you all will agree to that point as otherwise the entire> foundation of astrology becomes a floating one.> >> > There is no doubt every mahadasa or antardasa of Rahu and Ketu in> any given chart is a challenge for every astrologer.> > The issue of Rahu's combinations as a statistical key element has> not yet been proven (as far as I am aware of) and is definitely a> good target for a serious future research.> >> > As a personal example I can say that my own Rahu period (1964-1982 -> in Aries/9th with lagna lord Sun and aspected by Jupiter from> Sag/5th) was a very hard and tough time with many drastical events> and huge changes.> > The Rahu/Jupiter period (who are in 5/9) included something that I> doubt if any of the lists 1065 members have ever been involved in.> > None of the slukas/statement definitions will suit my own simple> example.> >> > My view is that any sluka/statement have to be supported by> statistical reality or else remain a theoretical statement.> >> > With the deepest respect to all> > Jay Weiss> >> >> >> > - > > Sanjay Rath> > vedic astrology> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:43 PM> > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> >> >> >> >> > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > Dear Sri Baqaya ji,> > Namaste.> > In another mail you have quoted that (a) rahu in trines gives> excellent results, (b) Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a> trine gives excellent results and © Rahu dasa - Jupiter antardasa> gives good results> >> > A) To the first point let me make it clear that Rahu is a first> rate malefic and evil planet and shall give all the evil results that> one can possibly imagine in a chart. Now, with this premise, when> Rahu is in trines it is 'like a snake up the sleeve' are the words of> Dr Raman and to this I agree. Almost every chart with Rahu in the> fifth house has seen some terrible relationship issues without fail,> and more so if this Rahu is to conjoin or aspect Venus. In the ninth> house, Rahu is placed in its Marana Karaka sthana and this will bring> death like suffering in matters connected to the bhava indicated by> the Kumbha rasi.> >> > B). Dasa-bhukti analaysis requires a good working and broad view> of Jyotish. Here the rule given is "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra> placed in a trine gives excellent results" which is Correct and I> fully agree with this, but the rule is INCOMPLETE. The rule should> read "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine gives> excellent results during its dasa while the dasa of the Kendra lord> shall give apamrityu bhaya and death like suffering." This is a very> simple rule and is based on the teachings of Ramanujacarya in> Bhavartha ratnakara. When any planet conjoins Rahu, Rahu shall give> its results whereas the planet conjoining Rahu shall give the results> of Rahu during its dasa. So, Rahu dasa shall be excellent as the> Rajyoga indicated by the Kendra lord placed in a trine shall give> results. this is very simple to understand. For example, Vrisab Lagna> with rahu and Saturn in the ninth house. Rahu dasa everyone said all> kinds of things, but the native had Rajyoga. You can see that rahu> has conjoined Saturn the yogakaraka placed in the ninth house i.e.> Rahu dasa was actually behaving like Saturn dasa for Vrisad lagna.> Then when Saturn dasa came, the life has become like hell for the> native. Even hell would seem a better place. So you see during Saturn> dasa he actually got Marana Karaka Rahu results. This happens with> Rahu.> >> > C) Jupiter antardasa in Rahu dasa is the relief expected. Look at> the reverse Jupiter dasa-rahu antardasa. Why are the results> invariably so terrible? In the first case Rahu indicates the native> and Jupiter will indicate his samsara. So, native is in a Bhoga mood> with rahu dasa and the samsara is in a great giver mood in Jupiter> antardasa, so the results are good. The reverse works for Jupiter> dasa Rahu antardasa. Of course, there must be a lot more to this as> these are very general results.> >> > Finally, I too am a professional astrologer but do not sell> stones nor rituals. However selling gemstones or performing rituals> is not a bad thing. These would not be classified as vices.> >> > However, I fully agree with you that some people claiming to be> Vedic astrologers are doing such things of forcing people to do> rituals and take some magic things. It is our best intention to do> something seriously about this misuse of the name of Jyotish. Mostly> these people do not know anything and are not serious about learning> either. Thank you for pointing this out as there are many who will> share your views in this matter. Yes we have to do something soon.> >> > With best wishes & regards,> > I remain> > Sanjay Rath> > > --------> > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > --------> > > > sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r...> [sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r...]On Behalf> Of Rup Krishen Baqaya> > Saturday, May 03, 2003 12:20 AM> > To: vedic astrology> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> >> >> > My Dear, who told you that people suffer in Raahu dasha alone.How> many horoscopes you would have seen till now.When you will gain more> experience you will find that people can and do suffer in any> dasha,whether of Jupiter or venus or Sun etc.Professional astrologers> have this tendency to create some kind of a fear complex amongst> people about certain planets,so that they can force them into rituals> and make money.I hope you would appreciate that it is easier for> professional astrologers to blame a planet like raahu,which is known> to be like a serpent and thus malefic as also known to cause grahana> to luminaries.If you watch say about 100 horoscopes closely for a> longish period,you will find that many peple benefit too in Raahu> dasha.Please understand that suffering is also related to your> present karma.Hope you got the point.Bye RK> >> > "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote:> > Om Namah Shivaya> > Dear RK> >> >> > i wonder if rahu is so beneficial, why there are many who> suffer in> > rahu dasa.> >> > regards> > partha> >> > Om Tat Sat> >> >> >> >> > vedic astrology, "Ramapriya D"> <hubli@v...>> > wrote:> > > Hi RK,> > >> > > Informative stuff, and very interesting. Of the 8 signs> you've> > mentioned for Ra being beneficial, I'm surprised that Aq, which> he co-> > lords, is missing. Also, I would've thought that Ra in either> Sg or> > Pi is some kinda curse because they're lorded by Ju who's Ra's> > antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for why Ra in either 9H or> 12H> > is considered so undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the> natural> > zodiac).> > >> > > Just for interest, can you quote the specific sloka and> chapter> > numbers of BPHS where Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8> signs> > you've men tioned? Thanks again for making this an interesting> thread.> > And if you've anything similar to say about Ke, please do;> > information about the nodes isn't copious.> > >> > > Warm regards,> > >> > > Ramapriya> > > hubli@v...> > >> > > - > > > Rup Krishen Baqaya> > > vedic astrology> > > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:45 AM> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> > >> > >> > > Yes my dear Ram,the planet in the 8th has a chance of> giving> > sickness.That is why, you will notice that in all my posts i> have> > mentioned that the totality of the circumstances is to be> seen.Let us> > say that in a particular horoscope lord of lagna is strong and> the> > native is also not running a period which can cause bad> health,there> > would be no harm in wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if> > otherwise indicated.In fact in my letter to Shankar i had> explained> > this while mentioning about the gem of a planet placed in the> 6th> > house.One more point.In your post you have mentioned about> Raahu in> > the 10th being bad.Probably you don't know that many many great> men> > had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi had raahu in the 10th,so> had> > Subhash Bose,as also Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are many> others.It> > of course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For> example, i> > myself have Raahu in the 10th in the sign Taurus.Every time> Raahu> > antara came in my life,it gave me a promotion or ce rtain> incidents> > happened which raised my career profile to great heights.You> see> > raahu in the> signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius> > and pisces is always capable of conferring good> effects,according to> > Parashara.And 10th house raahu is definitely not always> bad.hope this> > clarifies.Bye RK> >> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > >> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 Namaste. In this book anything regarding all the other antar dasas of rahu maha dasa?? Thanks Raji Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM KLEEM KRSHNAAYA NAMAH Dear Jay Weiss and other members, Actually ,I have told about Kodanda Rahu to Parag and this has been expalined to me by one Kerala Jyotishya Scholar from Mangalore.He was explaining to me that Rahu when placed in Dhanu is called as Kodanda Rahu and it gives a lot of material wealth during its Dasa-Antar Dasa provided its sign dispositor Guru is placed in 3,5,9 or 11th from Rahu.Also Rahu's placement Poorvashada Nakshatra is considered good in giving such results.Also in Vrishabha,Mithuna,Kanya and Tula navamshas he does better.Also in natal chart,this Kodanda Rahu must be either in 3,5,9 and 11th with its dispositor Guru placed in same position explained above.But this Rahu may not give spiritual experiences.Also please go through BPHS Volume-2 ( Sagar Publications ) Page no.257,where the author explains thus: Results of Rahu's Antar Dasa in Rahu's Maha Dasa : Position of Rahu in Karka,Vrischika or Dhanu delivers felicitations from King,cloths,vehicles,ornaments,copious profits in business,gains of animals and acquisition of cloths and vehicles dring the visits to the west.He mentions only if Rahu is posited in 2nd,7th,8th or 12th is considered bad and also with any malefics. Many ancient authors differ in their views about this Rahu Dasa. I hope this helps. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. "J. Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar, As I understand it some issues will be enhanced while others damaged, all in accordance with those attributed to Rahu as well as to it's lord and eventually planet(s) associated with him. As an example for the 11th house one may see increased income while suffering some illness (ears?) or mixing with bad company. Also, take into consideration the various aspects influencing Rahu (for better or worse). Regards /Jay - Chandrashekhar vedic astrology Saturday, May 03, 2003 9:12 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example Dear Jay and Partha, Would Rahu Mahadasha be bad even if he is placed in upachayas? - J. Weiss vedic astrology Saturday, May 03, 2003 6:04 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example Dear Partha,I tend to agree with you due to the experience that I have from the chartsin my possession.Maybe one day it will be possible to collect enough (like a few thousands)"Rahu dasa" charts (and others) with accompanied actual period descriptionand run some statistics on them.Regards/Jay----- Original Message ----- "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5 >To: <vedic astrology>Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:57 AMSubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example> Om Namah shivaya> Dear Jay>> Good point about stastical research. But, my point about 'suffering'> in rahu dasa is simple. Whether you get tonnes of money or suffer in> penury, rahu always harasses. It makes you lose your sleep and makes> every day of life full of tensions. So whatever experts and others> may say about money or no-money, rahu gives suffering. yet to see a> guy who says i was happy in rahu dasa.> regards> partha> Om Tat Sat>> vedic astrology, "J. Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:> > Respected Sanjay, Baqaya, Partha and others,> >> > I have been following your last mails on the subject and got a bit> upset; it is the reality of results that counts at the end of the day.> > Slukas and rules are 'written theoretical definitions' until> statistically proven true. Otherwise we can expect the exact results> from all charts with a specific mutual combination, which is> certainly not the case.> > It will be wrong to take any single statement in isolation as a> chart is a very complex 'map'.> > I trust you all will agree to that point as otherwise the entire> foundation of astrology becomes a floating one.> >> > There is no doubt every mahadasa or antardasa of Rahu and Ketu in> any given chart is a challenge for every astrologer.> > The issue of Rahu's combinations as a statistical key element has> not yet been proven (as far as I am aware of) and is definitely a> good target for a serious future research.> >> > As a personal example I can say that my own Rahu period (1964-1982 -> in Aries/9th with lagna lord Sun and aspected by Jupiter from> Sag/5th) was a very hard and tough time with many drastical events> and huge changes.> > The Rahu/Jupiter period (who are in 5/9) included something that I> doubt if any of the lists 1065 members have ever been involved in.> > None of the slukas/statement definitions will suit my own simple> example.> >> > My view is that any sluka/statement have to be supported by> statistical reality or else remain a theoretical statement.> >> > With the deepest respect to all> > Jay Weiss> >> >> >> > - > > Sanjay Rath> > vedic astrology> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:43 PM> > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> >> >> >> >> > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > Dear Sri Baqaya ji,> > Namaste.> > In another mail you have quoted that (a) rahu in trines gives> excellent results, (b) Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a> trine gives excellent results and © Rahu dasa - Jupiter antardasa> gives good results> >> > A) To the first point let me make it clear that Rahu is a first> rate malefic and evil planet and shall give all the evil results that> one can possibly imagine in a chart. Now, with this premise, when> Rahu is in trines it is 'like a snake up the sleeve' are the words of> Dr Raman and to this I agree. Almost every chart with Rahu in the> fifth house has seen some terrible relationship issues without fail,> and more so if this Rahu is to conjoin or aspect Venus. In the ninth> house, Rahu is placed in its Marana Karaka sthana and this will bring> death like suffering in matters connected to the bhava indicated by> the Kumbha rasi.> >> > B). Dasa-bhukti analaysis requires a good working and broad view> of Jyotish. Here the rule given is "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra> placed in a trine gives excellent results" which is Correct and I> fully agree with this, but the rule is INCOMPLETE. The rule should> read "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine gives> excellent results during its dasa while the dasa of the Kendra lord> shall give apamrityu bhaya and death like suffering." This is a very> simple rule and is based on the teachings of Ramanujacarya in> Bhavartha ratnakara. When any planet conjoins Rahu, Rahu shall give> its results whereas the planet conjoining Rahu shall give the results> of Rahu during its dasa. So, Rahu dasa shall be excellent as the> Rajyoga indicated by the Kendra lord placed in a trine shall give> results. this is very simple to understand. For example, Vrisab Lagna> with rahu and Saturn in the ninth house. Rahu dasa everyone said all> kinds of things, but the native had Rajyoga. You can see that rahu> has conjoined Saturn the yogakaraka placed in the ninth house i.e.> Rahu dasa was actually behaving like Saturn dasa for Vrisad lagna.> Then when Saturn dasa came, the life has become like hell for the> native. Even hell would seem a better place. So you see during Saturn> dasa he actually got Marana Karaka Rahu results. This happens with> Rahu.> >> > C) Jupiter antardasa in Rahu dasa is the relief expected. Look at> the reverse Jupiter dasa-rahu antardasa. Why are the results> invariably so terrible? In the first case Rahu indicates the native> and Jupiter will indicate his samsara. So, native is in a Bhoga mood> with rahu dasa and the samsara is in a great giver mood in Jupiter> antardasa, so the results are good. The reverse works for Jupiter> dasa Rahu antardasa. Of course, there must be a lot more to this as> these are very general results.> >> > Finally, I too am a professional astrologer but do not sell> stones nor rituals. However selling gemstones or performing rituals> is not a bad thing. These would not be classified as vices.> >> > However, I fully agree with you that some people claiming to be> Vedic astrologers are doing such things of forcing people to do> rituals and take some magic things. It is our best intention to do> something seriously about this misuse of the name of Jyotish. Mostly> these people do not know anything and are not serious about learning> either. Thank you for pointing this out as there are many who will> share your views in this matter. Yes we have to do something soon.> >> > With best wishes & regards,> > I remain> > Sanjay Rath> > > --------> > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > --------> > > > sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r...> [sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r...]On Behalf> Of Rup Krishen Baqaya> > Saturday, May 03, 2003 12:20 AM> > To: vedic astrology> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> >> >> > My Dear, who told you that people suffer in Raahu dasha alone.How> many horoscopes you would have seen till now.When you will gain more> experience you will find that people can and do suffer in any> dasha,whether of Jupiter or venus or Sun etc.Professional astrologers> have this tendency to create some kind of a fear complex amongst> people about certain planets,so that they can force them into rituals> and make money.I hope you would appreciate that it is easier for> professional astrologers to blame a planet like raahu,which is known> to be like a serpent and thus malefic as also known to cause grahana> to luminaries.If you watch say about 100 horoscopes closely for a> longish period,you will find that many peple benefit too in Raahu> dasha.Please understand that suffering is also related to your> present karma.Hope you got the point.Bye RK> >> > "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote:> > Om Namah Shivaya> > Dear RK> >> >> > i wonder if rahu is so beneficial, why there are many who> suffer in> > rahu dasa.> >> > regards> > partha> >> > Om Tat Sat> >> >> >> >> > vedic astrology, "Ramapriya D"> <hubli@v...>> > wrote:> > > Hi RK,> > >> > > Informative stuff, and very interesting. Of the 8 signs> you've> > mentioned for Ra being beneficial, I'm surprised that Aq, which> he co-> > lords, is missing. Also, I would've thought that Ra in either> Sg or> > Pi is some kinda curse because they're lorded by Ju who's Ra's> > antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for why Ra in either 9H or> 12H> > is considered so undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the> natural> > zodiac).> > >> > > Just for interest, can you quote the specific sloka and> chapter> > numbers of BPHS where Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8> signs> > you've men tioned? Thanks again for making this an interesting> thread.> > And if you've anything similar to say about Ke, please do;> > information about the nodes isn't copious.> > >> > > Warm regards,> > >> > > Ramapriya> > > hubli@v...> > >> > > - > > > Rup Krishen Baqaya> > > vedic astrology> > > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:45 AM> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> > >> > >> > > Yes my dear Ram,the planet in the 8th has a chance of> giving> > sickness.That is why, you will notice that in all my posts i> have> > mentioned that the totality of the circumstances is to be> seen.Let us> > say that in a particular horoscope lord of lagna is strong and> the> > native is also not running a period which can cause bad> health,there> > would be no harm in wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if> > otherwise indicated.In fact in my letter to Shankar i had> explained> > this while mentioning about the gem of a planet placed in the> 6th> > house.One more point.In your post you have mentioned about> Raahu in> > the 10th being bad.Probably you don't know that many many great> men> > had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi had raahu in the 10th,so> had> > Subhash Bose,as also Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are many> others.It> > of course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For> example, i> > myself have Raahu in the 10th in the sign Taurus.Every time> Raahu> > antara came in my life,it gave me a promotion or ce rtain> incidents> > happened which raised my career profile to great heights.You> see> > raahu in the> signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius> > and pisces is always capable of conferring good> effects,according to> > Parashara.And 10th house raahu is definitely not always> bad.hope this> > clarifies.Bye RK> >> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > >> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Your use of is subject to the Terms of> Service.> >> >> >> > --> ----------> > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > >> > > >> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Your use of is subject to the Terms of> Service.> >> > Sponsor> > > >> >> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > >> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Your use of is subject to the Terms of> Service.>>>> Archives: vedic astrology>> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... 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Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 OM KLEEM KRSHNAAYA NAMAH Dear Raji, Yes,this book contains ( Vol.2 ) all the dasa and antar dasa results.Really both volumes are very good to have and to study. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Rajeswari Shankar <rajeswarishankar > wrote: Dear RamadasRao, Namaste. In this book anything regarding all the other antar dasas of rahu maha dasa?? Thanks Raji Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM KLEEM KRSHNAAYA NAMAH Dear Jay Weiss and other members, Actually ,I have told about Kodanda Rahu to Parag and this has been expalined to me by one Kerala Jyotishya Scholar from Mangalore.He was explaining to me that Rahu when placed in Dhanu is called as Kodanda Rahu and it gives a lot of material wealth during its Dasa-Antar Dasa provided its sign dispositor Guru is placed in 3,5,9 or 11th from Rahu.Also Rahu's placement Poorvashada Nakshatra is considered good in giving such results.Also in Vrishabha,Mithuna,Kanya and Tula navamshas he does better.Also in natal chart,this Kodanda Rahu must be either in 3,5,9 and 11th with its dispositor Guru placed in same position explained above.But this Rahu may not give spiritual experiences.Also please go through BPHS Volume-2 ( Sagar Publications ) Page no.257,where the author explains thus: Results of Rahu's Antar Dasa in Rahu's Maha Dasa : Position of Rahu in Karka,Vrischika or Dhanu delivers felicitations from King,cloths,vehicles,ornaments,copious profits in business,gains of animals and acquisition of cloths and vehicles dring the visits to the west.He mentions only if Rahu is posited in 2nd,7th,8th or 12th is considered bad and also with any malefics. Many ancient authors differ in their views about this Rahu Dasa. I hope this helps. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. "J. Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar, As I understand it some issues will be enhanced while others damaged, all in accordance with those attributed to Rahu as well as to it's lord and eventually planet(s) associated with him. As an example for the 11th house one may see increased income while suffering some illness (ears?) or mixing with bad company. Also, take into consideration the various aspects influencing Rahu (for better or worse). Regards /Jay - Chandrashekhar vedic astrology Saturday, May 03, 2003 9:12 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example Dear Jay and Partha, Would Rahu Mahadasha be bad even if he is placed in upachayas? - J. Weiss vedic astrology Saturday, May 03, 2003 6:04 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example Dear Partha,I tend to agree with you due to the experience that I have from the chartsin my possession.Maybe one day it will be possible to collect enough (like a few thousands)"Rahu dasa" charts (and others) with accompanied actual period descriptionand run some statistics on them.Regards/Jay----- Original Message ----- "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5 >To: <vedic astrology>Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:57 AMSubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand - opposite example> Om Namah shivaya> Dear Jay>> Good point about stastical research. But, my point about 'suffering'> in rahu dasa is simple. Whether you get tonnes of money or suffer in> penury, rahu always harasses. It makes you lose your sleep and makes> every day of life full of tensions. So whatever experts and others> may say about money or no-money, rahu gives suffering. yet to see a> guy who says i was happy in rahu dasa.> regards> partha> Om Tat Sat>> vedic astrology, "J. Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:> > Respected Sanjay, Baqaya, Partha and others,> >> > I have been following your last mails on the subject and got a bit> upset; it is the reality of results that counts at the end of the day.> > Slukas and rules are 'written theoretical definitions' until> statistically proven true. Otherwise we can expect the exact results> from all charts with a specific mutual combination, which is> certainly not the case.> > It will be wrong to take any single statement in isolation as a> chart is a very complex 'map'.> > I trust you all will agree to that point as otherwise the entire> foundation of astrology becomes a floating one.> >> > There is no doubt every mahadasa or antardasa of Rahu and Ketu in> any given chart is a challenge for every astrologer.> > The issue of Rahu's combinations as a statistical key element has> not yet been proven (as far as I am aware of) and is definitely a> good target for a serious future research.> >> > As a personal example I can say that my own Rahu period (1964-1982 -> in Aries/9th with lagna lord Sun and aspected by Jupiter from> Sag/5th) was a very hard and tough time with many drastical events> and huge changes.> > The Rahu/Jupiter period (who are in 5/9) included something that I> doubt if any of the lists 1065 members have ever been involved in.> > None of the slukas/statement definitions will suit my own simple> example.> >> > My view is that any sluka/statement have to be supported by> statistical reality or else remain a theoretical statement.> >> > With the deepest respect to all> > Jay Weiss> >> >> >> > - > > Sanjay Rath> > vedic astrology> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:43 PM> > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> >> >> >> >> > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > Dear Sri Baqaya ji,> > Namaste.> > In another mail you have quoted that (a) rahu in trines gives> excellent results, (b) Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a> trine gives excellent results and © Rahu dasa - Jupiter antardasa> gives good results> >> > A) To the first point let me make it clear that Rahu is a first> rate malefic and evil planet and shall give all the evil results that> one can possibly imagine in a chart. Now, with this premise, when> Rahu is in trines it is 'like a snake up the sleeve' are the words of> Dr Raman and to this I agree. Almost every chart with Rahu in the> fifth house has seen some terrible relationship issues without fail,> and more so if this Rahu is to conjoin or aspect Venus. In the ninth> house, Rahu is placed in its Marana Karaka sthana and this will bring> death like suffering in matters connected to the bhava indicated by> the Kumbha rasi.> >> > B). Dasa-bhukti analaysis requires a good working and broad view> of Jyotish. Here the rule given is "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra> placed in a trine gives excellent results" which is Correct and I> fully agree with this, but the rule is INCOMPLETE. The rule should> read "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine gives> excellent results during its dasa while the dasa of the Kendra lord> shall give apamrityu bhaya and death like suffering." This is a very> simple rule and is based on the teachings of Ramanujacarya in> Bhavartha ratnakara. When any planet conjoins Rahu, Rahu shall give> its results whereas the planet conjoining Rahu shall give the results> of Rahu during its dasa. So, Rahu dasa shall be excellent as the> Rajyoga indicated by the Kendra lord placed in a trine shall give> results. this is very simple to understand. For example, Vrisab Lagna> with rahu and Saturn in the ninth house. Rahu dasa everyone said all> kinds of things, but the native had Rajyoga. You can see that rahu> has conjoined Saturn the yogakaraka placed in the ninth house i.e.> Rahu dasa was actually behaving like Saturn dasa for Vrisad lagna.> Then when Saturn dasa came, the life has become like hell for the> native. Even hell would seem a better place. So you see during Saturn> dasa he actually got Marana Karaka Rahu results. This happens with> Rahu.> >> > C) Jupiter antardasa in Rahu dasa is the relief expected. Look at> the reverse Jupiter dasa-rahu antardasa. Why are the results> invariably so terrible? In the first case Rahu indicates the native> and Jupiter will indicate his samsara. So, native is in a Bhoga mood> with rahu dasa and the samsara is in a great giver mood in Jupiter> antardasa, so the results are good. The reverse works for Jupiter> dasa Rahu antardasa. Of course, there must be a lot more to this as> these are very general results.> >> > Finally, I too am a professional astrologer but do not sell> stones nor rituals. However selling gemstones or performing rituals> is not a bad thing. These would not be classified as vices.> >> > However, I fully agree with you that some people claiming to be> Vedic astrologers are doing such things of forcing people to do> rituals and take some magic things. It is our best intention to do> something seriously about this misuse of the name of Jyotish. Mostly> these people do not know anything and are not serious about learning> either. Thank you for pointing this out as there are many who will> share your views in this matter. Yes we have to do something soon.> >> > With best wishes & regards,> > I remain> > Sanjay Rath> > > --------> > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > --------> > > > sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r...> [sentto-1229044-22515-1051901383-srath=vsnl.com@r...]On Behalf> Of Rup Krishen Baqaya> > Saturday, May 03, 2003 12:20 AM> > To: vedic astrology> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> >> >> > My Dear, who told you that people suffer in Raahu dasha alone.How> many horoscopes you would have seen till now.When you will gain more> experience you will find that people can and do suffer in any> dasha,whether of Jupiter or venus or Sun etc.Professional astrologers> have this tendency to create some kind of a fear complex amongst> people about certain planets,so that they can force them into rituals> and make money.I hope you would appreciate that it is easier for> professional astrologers to blame a planet like raahu,which is known> to be like a serpent and thus malefic as also known to cause grahana> to luminaries.If you watch say about 100 horoscopes closely for a> longish period,you will find that many peple benefit too in Raahu> dasha.Please understand that suffering is also related to your> present karma.Hope you got the point.Bye RK> >> > "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote:> > Om Namah Shivaya> > Dear RK> >> >> > i wonder if rahu is so beneficial, why there are many who> suffer in> > rahu dasa.> >> > regards> > partha> >> > Om Tat Sat> >> >> >> >> > vedic astrology, "Ramapriya D"> <hubli@v...>> > wrote:> > > Hi RK,> > >> > > Informative stuff, and very interesting. Of the 8 signs> you've> > mentioned for Ra being beneficial, I'm surprised that Aq, which> he co-> > lords, is missing. Also, I would've thought that Ra in either> Sg or> > Pi is some kinda curse because they're lorded by Ju who's Ra's> > antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for why Ra in either 9H or> 12H> > is considered so undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the> natural> > zodiac).> > >> > > Just for interest, can you quote the specific sloka and> chapter> > numbers of BPHS where Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8> signs> > you've men tioned? Thanks again for making this an interesting> thread.> > And if you've anything similar to say about Ke, please do;> > information about the nodes isn't copious.> > >> > > Warm regards,> > >> > > Ramapriya> > > hubli@v...> > >> > > - > > > Rup Krishen Baqaya> > > vedic astrology> > > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:45 AM> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> > >> > >> > > Yes my dear Ram,the planet in the 8th has a chance of> giving> > sickness.That is why, you will notice that in all my posts i> have> > mentioned that the totality of the circumstances is to be> seen.Let us> > say that in a particular horoscope lord of lagna is strong and> the> > native is also not running a period which can cause bad> health,there> > would be no harm in wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if> > otherwise indicated.In fact in my letter to Shankar i had> explained> > this while mentioning about the gem of a planet placed in the> 6th> > house.One more point.In your post you have mentioned about> Raahu in> > the 10th being bad.Probably you don't know that many many great> men> > had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi had raahu in the 10th,so> had> > Subhash Bose,as also Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are many> others.It> > of course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For> example, i> > myself have Raahu in the 10th in the sign Taurus.Every time> Raahu> > antara came in my life,it gave me a promotion or ce rtain> incidents> > happened which raised my career profile to great heights.You> see> > raahu in the> signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius> > and pisces is always capable of conferring good> effects,according to> > Parashara.And 10th house raahu is definitely not always> bad.hope this> > clarifies.Bye RK> >> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > >> > ....... 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