lalkitab an horrible book

May 17, 2003

Dear Sanjayji,

In message #26707, you wrote:

"

"Rahu baitha tarvat par to tarvat charane laga

Jis ghar pe suraj baitha, vahan grahan aane laga"..something like

this.

This is one of the finest teachings of the lal kitab. If Rahu is in

the throne i.e. Lagna or 10th house, then the Sun becomes very

malefic and in whichever house the Sun is placed, the effects of an

eclipse shall come to that house".

Now, kindly consider/remember the chart below where Sun being in the

2nd –in Cancer– has therefore argala by rasi dristi notably on

Mercury, Jupiter and Moon. According to the effects mentioned above,

that makes a lot of damages, doesn'it? Not to point out that Sun is

the AK as a beginning…

The native asked to you wether he will be a jyotishi? At least an

honest astrologer consonant with your teaching…

Your kind answer was :

"Yes you will as you have learning (Mercury) in the house of the Sun

god, the keeper of time (Leo), the soul (Sun) established in

compassion (Cancer) that enlightens the mind (Moon lord of Cancer)

and most important, the higher intelligence and foresight (Jupiter)

attached to the throne (1st/10th house). These are the vital

ingredients that make a good Jyotishi and you share this with Dr.

Raman & myself".

I beg your pardon if such a quotation of a personal reading is not

allowed. I made it with respectful spirit.

I am not your student yet I am lost (sorry for my English).

Yours,

Pierre-Olivier Loisel

--

These calculations were made using "Jagannatha Hora Lite". It is a

free software from Sri Jagannath Vedic Centre. You can download it

from http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz or http://www.sjvc.net.

--

Date of Birth: August 14, 1963

Time of Birth: 2:02:00 am

Time Zone of Birth: 1:00 East of GMT

Longitude of Birth: 4 E 02

Latitude of Birth: 49 N 16

Planet Position Pada CharaK

Ascdt 16 Ge 39 Aardra 3 -

Sun 27 Cn 11 Aasresha 4 AK

+----------------------+

| | | | BL |

| | | | |

| JupR | HL | Moo | Asc |

| | | | |

| | | | Rah |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | Ven |

| Mnd | | |

| | | Sun |

| | | |

|-------------| R A S I |-------------|

| | | |

| SatR | | |

| | | Mer |

| Glk | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| Ket | GL | | Mar |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| Sun | | Rah | Mar |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| Asc | | |

| | | HL |

| Mnd | | |

| | | Moo |

| JupR | | |

|-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

| | | |

| | | GL |

| Ven | | |

| | | SatR |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| | BL | | |

| | | Mer | Glk |

| | Ket | | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

May 17, 2003

Dear Sanjayji,

Coming back to my grimace wrt to the sun damaging the 2nd i.e. the

seed or artha of the entire horoscope,

I just hope the Rahu which also has direct aspect on the Sun without

any help from the lalkitab is either defeated by a stronger Jupiter

in Pisces or is not that bad, being lord of the 9th and/or exalted in

Gemini.

Anyway, thank you once again for your initial reading. Your words

were very kind and I shall cling to them.

Yours,

Pierre-Olivier Loisel

vedic astrology, "Pierre-Olivier Loisel"

<poloisel@a...> wrote:

> Dear Sanjayji,

>

> In message #26707, you wrote:

>

> "

> "Rahu baitha tarvat par to tarvat charane laga

> Jis ghar pe suraj baitha, vahan grahan aane laga"..something like

> this.

> This is one of the finest teachings of the lal kitab. If Rahu is in

> the throne i.e. Lagna or 10th house, then the Sun becomes very

> malefic and in whichever house the Sun is placed, the effects of an

> eclipse shall come to that house".

>

> Now, kindly consider/remember the chart below where Sun being in

the

> 2nd –in Cancer– has therefore argala by rasi dristi notably on

> Mercury, Jupiter and Moon. According to the effects mentioned

above,

> that makes a lot of damages, doesn'it? Not to point out that Sun is

> the AK as a beginning…

>

> The native asked to you wether he will be a jyotishi? At least an

> honest astrologer consonant with your teaching…

>

> Your kind answer was :

> "Yes you will as you have learning (Mercury) in the house of the

Sun

> god, the keeper of time (Leo), the soul (Sun) established in

> compassion (Cancer) that enlightens the mind (Moon lord of Cancer)

> and most important, the higher intelligence and foresight (Jupiter)

> attached to the throne (1st/10th house). These are the vital

> ingredients that make a good Jyotishi and you share this with Dr.

> Raman & myself".

>

> I beg your pardon if such a quotation of a personal reading is not

> allowed. I made it with respectful spirit.

>

> I am not your student yet I am lost (sorry for my English).

>

> Yours,

>

> Pierre-Olivier Loisel

>

> --

> These calculations were made using "Jagannatha Hora Lite". It is a

> free software from Sri Jagannath Vedic Centre. You can download it

> from http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz or http://www.sjvc.net.

> --

>

> Date of Birth: August 14, 1963

> Time of Birth: 2:02:00 am

> Time Zone of Birth: 1:00 East of GMT

> Longitude of Birth: 4 E 02

> Latitude of Birth: 49 N 16

>

> Planet Position Pada CharaK

>

> Ascdt 16 Ge 39 Aardra 3 -

> Sun 27 Cn 11 Aasresha 4 AK

>

> +----------------------+

> | | | | BL |

> | | | | |

> | JupR | HL | Moo | Asc |

> | | | | |

> | | | | Rah |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | Ven |

> | Mnd | | |

> | | | Sun |

> | | | |

> |-------------| R A S I |-------------|

> | | | |

> | SatR | | |

> | | | Mer |

> | Glk | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | | |

> | Ket | GL | | Mar |

> | | | | |

> +----------------------+

>

> +----------------------+

> | | | | |

> | Sun | | Rah | Mar |

> | | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | Asc | | |

> | | | HL |

> | Mnd | | |

> | | | Moo |

> | JupR | | |

> |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | GL |

> | Ven | | |

> | | | SatR |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | | |

> | | BL | | |

> | | | Mer | Glk |

> | | Ket | | |

> | | | | |

> +----------------------+

May 17, 2003

Om Brihaspataye namah

Dear Pierre,

That dictum from the Lal Kitab refers to the matters of the house where the

Sun is placed. It has nothing to do with argala on other houses not with

dristi etc.

Now, I have applied that dictum to the houses reckoned from the Lagna but

the Lal kitab does not recognize the existance of any lagna and uses Aries

lagna for everything. That was an illustration telling Tarun Chopra 'how to

make an argument or point' in a discussion. As such I do not follow Lal

Kitab and stick to Parasara.

If we were to follow Lal Kitab then it will indicate that your fourth house

comes under eclipse OR if we use lagna then your second house is eclipsed

and you will have fluctuating wealth. That is the maximum we can say from

such a combination. Do not extend it as Lal Kitab rules are not inter linked

like Jyotish. it is a strange code to say the least.

With best wishes

Sanjay Rath

---------------------------

H-5, B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

+91-674-2436871 http://srath.com

---------------------------

Pierre-Olivier Loisel [poloisel]

Sunday, May 18, 2003 4:38 AM

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[vedic astrology] lalkitab an horrible book

Dear Sanjayji,

In message #26707, you wrote:

"

"Rahu baitha tarvat par to tarvat charane laga

Jis ghar pe suraj baitha, vahan grahan aane laga"..something like

this.

This is one of the finest teachings of the lal kitab. If Rahu is in

the throne i.e. Lagna or 10th house, then the Sun becomes very

malefic and in whichever house the Sun is placed, the effects of an

eclipse shall come to that house".

Now, kindly consider/remember the chart below where Sun being in the

2nd –in Cancer– has therefore argala by rasi dristi notably on

Mercury, Jupiter and Moon. According to the effects mentioned above,

that makes a lot of damages, doesn'it? Not to point out that Sun is

the AK as a beginning…

The native asked to you wether he will be a jyotishi? At least an

honest astrologer consonant with your teaching…

Your kind answer was :

"Yes you will as you have learning (Mercury) in the house of the Sun

god, the keeper of time (Leo), the soul (Sun) established in

compassion (Cancer) that enlightens the mind (Moon lord of Cancer)

and most important, the higher intelligence and foresight (Jupiter)

attached to the throne (1st/10th house). These are the vital

ingredients that make a good Jyotishi and you share this with Dr.

Raman & myself".

I beg your pardon if such a quotation of a personal reading is not

allowed. I made it with respectful spirit.

I am not your student yet I am lost (sorry for my English).

Yours,

Pierre-Olivier Loisel

--

These calculations were made using "Jagannatha Hora Lite". It is a

free software from Sri Jagannath Vedic Centre. You can download it

from http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz or http://www.sjvc.net.

--

Date of Birth: August 14, 1963

Time of Birth: 2:02:00 am

Time Zone of Birth: 1:00 East of GMT

Longitude of Birth: 4 E 02

Latitude of Birth: 49 N 16

Planet Position Pada CharaK

Ascdt 16 Ge 39 Aardra 3 -

Sun 27 Cn 11 Aasresha 4 AK

+----------------------+

| | | | BL |

| | | | |

| JupR | HL | Moo | Asc |

| | | | |

| | | | Rah |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | Ven |

| Mnd | | |

| | | Sun |

| | | |

|-------------| R A S I |-------------|

| | | |

| SatR | | |

| | | Mer |

| Glk | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| Ket | GL | | Mar |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| Sun | | Rah | Mar |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| Asc | | |

| | | HL |

| Mnd | | |

| | | Moo |

| JupR | | |

|-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

| | | |

| | | GL |

| Ven | | |

| | | SatR |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| | BL | | |

| | | Mer | Glk |

| | Ket | | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

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May 17, 2003

|| Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya ||

Dear Pierre-Olivier,

I think there is a typo in Sanjay ji's message - he has typed 'SUN' instead of 'RAHU'.

IMHO, the message read: ".......in whichever house the RAHU is placed, the

effects of an eclipse shall come to that house"

I request Gurudev to confirm - or correct - my understanding.

Regards & best wishes,

Shailesh

-

"Pierre-Olivier Loisel" <poloisel (AT) aol (DOT) com>

Sunday, May 18, 2003 4:37 AM

[vedic astrology] lalkitab an horrible book

Dear Sanjayji,In message #26707, you wrote:Rahu baitha tarvat par to tarvat

charane lagaJis ghar pe suraj baitha, vahan grahan aane laga"..something like

this.This is one of the finest teachings of the lal kitab. If Rahu is in the

throne i.e. Lagna or 10th house, then the Sun becomes very malefic and in

whichever house the Sun is placed, the effects of an eclipse shall come to that

house".Now, kindly consider/remember the chart below where Sun being in the 2nd

-in Cancer- has therefore argala by rasi dristi notably on Mercury, Jupiter and

Moon. According to the effects mentioned above, that makes a lot of damages,

doesn'it? Not to point out that Sun is the AK as a beginning.The native asked

to you wether he will be a jyotishi? At least an honest astrologer consonant

with your teaching.Your kind answer was : "Yes you will as you have learning

(Mercury) in the house of the Sun god, the keeper of time (Leo), the soul (Sun)

established in compassion (Cancer) that enlightens the mind (Moon lord of

Cancer) and most important, the higher intelligence and foresight (Jupiter)

attached to the throne (1st/10th house). These are the vital ingredients that

make a good Jyotishi and you share this with Dr. Raman & myself".I beg your

pardon if such a quotation of a personal reading is not allowed. I made it with

respectful spirit.I am not your student yet I am lost (sorry for my

English).Yours,Pierre-Olivier

Loisel--

These calculations were made using "Jagannatha Hora Lite". It is a free

software from Sri Jagannath Vedic Centre. You can download it from

http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz or

http://www.sjvc.net.--Date

of Birth: August 14, 1963Time of Birth: 2:02:00 amTime Zone of

Birth: 1:00 East of GMTLongitude of Birth: 4 E 02Latitude of Birth:

49 N 16Planet Position Pada CharaK Ascdt 16 Ge 39 Aardra 3

- Sun 27 Cn 11 Aasresha 4

AK+----------------------+| |

| | BL || | | |

|| JupR | HL | Moo | Asc ||

| | | || | |

| Rah ||-------------|---------------------------|-------------||

| | || |

| Ven || Mnd | |

|| | | Sun || |

| ||-------------| R A S I

|-------------|| | | || SatR

| | || |

| Mer || Glk | |

|| | |

||-------------|---------------------------|-------------|| |

| | || | | |

|| Ket | GL | | Mar ||

| | | || | |

|

|+----------------------++----------------------+|

| | | || |

| | || Sun | | Rah |

Mar || | | | ||

| | |

||-------------|---------------------------|-------------|| Asc |

| || | |

HL || Mnd | | ||

| | Moo || JupR |

| ||-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------||

| | || |

| GL || Ven | |

|| | | SatR || |

|

||-------------|---------------------------|-------------|| |

| | || | BL | |

|| | | Mer | Glk ||

| Ket | | || | |

|

|+----------------------+------------------------

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May 18, 2003

Jaya Jagannath,

Dear Shailesh,

There is no Typo, the house where Sun's placed shall be eclipsed.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

-

Shailesh Chadha

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Sunday, May 18, 2003 1:14 PM

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