Travelling

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Jaya JagannathDear Jyotisha,

 

Let me give a little twist to the discussion on Traveling abroad.

 

Traveling is shown by 4 houses 3rd, 7th, 9th and 12th, which signify longer

"duration" from 3rd in an increasing order. However duration and the distances

are not the same. The distance of travel can be judged from the signs

influencing the matters of travels. If it happens to be Movable, then it shows

long distance travels, if it happens to be Fixed, then it signify short

distance travels and if they happen to be dual, then the travel is neither very

far nor very near.

 

Among the planets the karaka for travels are the Venus and Saturn. In the dasa

of Venus and Saturn there can be travel, as they try to give results of the

karakatva too, during their dasas. Similarly Dasas of the planets who are

associated with the Karakas can also give travel.

 

Badhaka also cause travels. If the dasa-antar lord is associated with the

Badhaka or placed in a quadrant from it, then it can show travels. However in

all the cases, the "duration" is shown by the the planets involved and the

"distance" is shown by the signs involved.

 

Along with this, the karaka for the foreign influence is Rahu. We can say that

any person can have foreign influence (showed by traveling to foreign land) if

there is any association by placement or conjunction of Rahu on the Lagna or

the AL. Lagna shows that person shall strongly imbibe the influences of the

foreign land whereas the influence on the AL, shows that the person might

change his dressing or food or the accent, but he is inherently a strong

follower of own culture. The opposite to Rahu is the influence of Jupiter,

which promote the influence of the native's own culture on the native.

 

Now, how to see the bhagyodaya in the foreign land. Check out whether the kendra

to Lagna or the 12th has more planets. This is to see which is more stronger,

the Lagna or the 12th. If the 12th is stronger, then the foreign land shall

suit the native. Also check out various yogas happening in the kendra to the

Lagna or the 12th, they shall support either success in the native's own land

or foreign land.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

 

 

 

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"Rajesh Mohan Kumaria" <rajeshkumaria2000 >

<vedic astrology>

Thursday, May 22, 2003 2:53 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Gem Stone Combination: Lagna Lord in 12th/Bhagyodaya...

> Well I think you are going somewhat off track now, when you mention > what

constitutes going to a foreign land...Crossing the sea is > another topic in

istelf. Our original source of argument was "Lagna > lord in 12th indicates

getting your bhagyodaya in places distant from > your birthplace...".. > So

while I consider that distant land or faraway places within same > nation are

also a sort of foreign land, yet AmolMandar does not > consider so. > > Now let

us take your viewpoint...then what will the astrologers on > southern India say

about those people who have travelled by land to > northern part and western

part of India and then living in those > parts for several years? Will they not

consider it as also going to a > distant land? If yes, then does that become a

foreign laand > astrologically? That's what we are discussing here. > Thanks. >

Rajesh Kumaria.> > > vedic astrology, santosh menon >

<santosh786> wrote:> > Why not look at the explanation given by most of

the> > astrologers in the deep southern part of india who> > consider that

crossing the sea would constitute going> > to a foreign land.> > > > santosh

menon> > > > --- Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000>> > wrote:> > > >

> > Dear AmolMandar, > > > Well with all due regards, these are your> > >

suppositions, when you > > > say, "I suppose.." Is it mentioned somewhere in> >

> scriptures, that > > > astrology rules are linked to changing national> > >

boundaries? Please > > > let me know... If we take your hypothesis to be true>

> > that than those > > > ancient kingdoms were also like nations within the> >

> bigger Bharatdesh > > > Nation. So smaller nations have become one big> > >

nation ultimately, but > > > different parts of same nation are still somewhat>

> > like a foreign > > > land even thesedays i.e, Eastern People going to> > >

work in > > > Northern/southern part will feel like a foreigner> > > for

several years > > > until they get used to the local conditions. So> > >

Bhagyodaya in > > > different parts of same nation, is also similar to> > >

bhagodaya in a > > > foreign land. > > > > > > If you still do not agree, then

it would imply that> > > such people(who > > > got success in other parts of

same nation) never had> > > any proper > > > desired sucess/bhagyodaya, which

will defeat other> > > astrology rules,> > > linked to prosperity etc., . So it

would imply that> > > even after a life-> > > time of achievements, such people

are still waiting> > > for bhagyodaya in > > > foreign lands or they must

travel to foreign lands> > > merely to justfiy > > > astrology rules..That

would seem very strange. Will> > > you agree with > > > this fact? > > > Thanks

and Regards.> > > Rajesh Kumaria> > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "amolmandar"> > > > > > <amolmandar>

wrote:> > > > Dear Rajesh> > > > > > > > I suppose we can not consider 500km or

even 5000km> > > away from birth > > > > place as foriegn land if it is with in

your> > > nations boundries. A > > > > person living at Amritser(IND), goes

and does his> > > business at > > > Lahore> > > > (PAK) it should be treated as

bhaygaodaya in> > > foreign land although > > > > distance is not more than

100km.On the other hand> > > same person going > > > > to Banglore and getting

a bhagodya should not be> > > treated as > > > > bhaygaodaya in foreign land. >

> > > > > > > Thanks for your Time and Space.> > > > > > > > AmolMandar> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh> > > Mohan Kumaria" > >

> > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:> > > > > Dear Chandershekhar JI, > > > > > >

> > > > Sorry for this intereference in your> > > discussions..Can we safely > >

> > make > > > > > an interpretation that Lagna Lord in 12th can> > > also

indicate > > > > > prosperity/financial success at a far away> > > place(from

place of > > > > > birth ) in India, which could be 50/500 miles> > > away from

birth > > > > place? > > > > > The reason being that one time India had over> >

> 5000 kingdoms and > > > so > > > > > during such times, foreign land could

also mean> > > another part of > > > > India > > > > > i.e, living in a

different kngdom, other than> > > birth kngdom. I am > > > > > assuming that

astrological rules were written> > > 5000 to 7000 years > > > > ago > > > > >

and thousands of kngdoms existed at that time.> > > Please correct me, > > > >

if > > > > > I am wrong. I am also taking the liberty of> > > changing the

subject > > > > > heading slightly, if you do not mind Sir.> > > > > Regards.>

> > > > Rajesh Kumaria.> > > > > > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology,> > > "Chandrashekhar" > > > > > <boxdel>

wrote:> > > > > > Dear Hari,> > > > > > Bhagyodaya is rise in fortune. In you>

> > brother's case which you > > > > have > > > > > cited, Lagna lord is

positied with 3rd and 6th> > > lord. Other House > > > > > lords are also in

different positions.The> > > results would therefore > > > > be > > > > >

different. Again his Mahadasha times has to> > > arrive for a yoga, > > > if >

> > > > any to fructify and nature of the Planets> > > themselves would also >

> > > > modify the results.> > > > > > Let us wait and see what Rajeshwari has

to> > > say.> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > ----- Original Message

----- > > > > > > onlyhari > > > > > > To:

vedic astrology > > > > > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003

8:02 AM> > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Gem Stone> > > Combination>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---> > > > > >

Dear Shri Chandrasekhar,> > > > > > > > > > > > You mentioned that "Lagna

lord in 12th> > > indicates getting your > > > > > > bhagyodaya in places

distant from your> > > birthplace and that > > > you > > > > > will > > > > > >

be independent"> > > > > > > > > > > > What is the meaning of bhagyodaya?

Does it> > > refer to earnings? > > > > My > > > > > > brother has 1st lord

in 12th conjoined along> > > with 5th lord > > > and > > > > > 3&6th > > > > >

> lord. In addition, he has 9th&12th lord in> > > 2nd, 4th lord in > > > 9th

> > > > > and > > > > > > 7th lord in 10th. You would probably say> > > that

my brother > > > would > > > > be > > > > > > better off earning his money in

foreign> > > land, isnt it? But > > > the > > > > > real > > > > > > story is

that my brother has made umpteen> > > attempts since his > > > > > >

graduation to find a job outside India and> > > never once has > > > > >

succeeded > > > > > > (not even to the extent of getting an> > > interview

call!). > > > However > > > > > he > > > > > > is successful in his own right

within India.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember Shri Sanjay Rath saying

that 12th> > > house is the > > > house > > > > > of > > > > > > foriegn

residence, 9th the house of long> > > foriegn travels > > > (12th > > > > is >

> > > > > 4th from 9th) and 7th the house of short> > > term business trips >

> > > > (12th > > > > > > is 6th from 7th) and lagna lord in 12th> > > blocks

efforts in > > > that > > > > > > direction. Could this be the reason for

the> > > case described > > > > above? > > > > > > What are your comments?> >

> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > Hari> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> -- In vedic astrology,> > > "Chandrashekhar" > > > > > >

<boxdel> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Rajeshwari,> > > > > === message

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