Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 Dear Mr. Ranjan, I can't beleive this, from the last few weeks I have been thinking on asking same question that you have asked. 1. I always wanted to ask if prime importance in life should be given to worshipping the AK. since it feels so logical to do so. 2. Also, it is said that one should not wear the stone of the AK, why, what is the logic behind it. 3. Also, the lessons of the AK are given primarily when during Mahadasha, antar or pratyantar. 4. Mr Ranjan, can you pls throw some light on the relationship of the pada and the AK. Warm regards, Sushmita Om Gurave NamahOm Namo NarayanayaDear Sanjayji and listI have a doubt on AK. Can one worship the AK? I remember reading somewhere that you had mentioned, that the pada in which the AK is placed in a natal chart, is crucial. Now would worshipping the AK impact the signification of the pada, say kaama, artha, dharma or moksha, in which AK is placed.I am aware Jupiter's blessings are required for jyotish. But if AK has rasi drishti from Jupiter, would worshipping the AK "actively support" the prospects of studying jyotish?If AK happens to be in a dusthana, would worshipping the AK, help in surfing through life without adverse impact on the bhava of which the AK is the lord, during its mahadasa or sub dasas.SincerelyR. Kasthuri Rangan The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 Om Gurave Namah Om Namo Narayanaya Dear Sushmita I have also started thinking seriously on this issue. My AK is Mars. Infact, I have realised that in the past 4 months I have been drawn to an ancient Lord Subramanya Swamy (Muruga) temple which also houses a separate sanctum sanctorum for Mars. I worship Lord Muruga and Mars every Tuesday at this temple. But this doubt on worshipping AK has been lingering in my mind all along. I have no idea of the gems to be worn or not to be worn. Yes. The periods involving AK will teach a native important lessons in this life. Lessons will be of penal nature for mistakes in the past birth(s). I remember having read in the archives, that if the AK planet is in the 1st pada, it shows the soul longing for artha in this janma. AK in the 2nd pada indicates the soul's longing for dharma, 3rd pada indicates soul's longing for kaama and 4th pada for moksha. Let's wait for Guru's guidance. Best wishes R. Kasthuri Rangan vedic astrology, Sushmita S <sushmita34> wrote: > > Dear Mr. Ranjan, > > > I can't beleive this, from the last few weeks I have been thinking on asking same question that you have asked. > > 1. I always wanted to ask if prime importance in life should be given to worshipping the AK. since it feels so logical to do so. > > 2. Also, it is said that one should not wear the stone of the AK, why, what is the logic behind it. > > 3. Also, the lessons of the AK are given primarily when during Mahadasha, antar or pratyantar. > > 4. Mr Ranjan, can you pls throw some light on the relationship of the pada and the AK. > > Warm regards, > > Sushmita > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 Can you please tell me what the pada means.. is that the Nakshatra pada the Atamkaraka planet is in or the house? Also please tell me the deity of worship if Sun is the Atmakaraka. Thanks! Prakash.rkrangan <rkrangan > wrote: Om Gurave NamahOm Namo NarayanayaDear SushmitaI have also started thinking seriously on this issue. My AK is Mars. Infact, I have realised that in the past 4 months I have been drawn to an ancient Lord Subramanya Swamy (Muruga) temple which also houses a separate sanctum sanctorum for Mars. I worship Lord Muruga and Mars every Tuesday at this temple. But this doubt on worshipping AK has been lingering in my mind all along.I have no idea of the gems to be worn or not to be worn.Yes. The periods involving AK will teach a native important lessons in this life. Lessons will be of penal nature for mistakes in the past birth(s).I remember having read in the archives, that if the AK planet is in the 1st pada, it shows the soul longing for artha in this janma. AK in the 2nd pada indicates the soul's longing for dharma, 3rd pada indicates soul's longing for kaama and 4th pada for moksha.Let's wait for Guru's guidance.Best wishesR. Kasthuri Ranganvedic astrology, Sushmita S <sushmita34> wrote:> > Dear Mr. Ranjan,> > > I can't beleive this, from the last few weeks I have been thinking on asking same question that you have asked.> > 1. I always wanted to ask if prime importance in life should be given to worshipping the AK. since it feels so logical to do so.> > 2. Also, it is said that one should not wear the stone of the AK, why, what is the logic behind it.> > 3. Also, the lessons of the AK are given primarily when during Mahadasha, antar or pratyantar.> > 4. Mr Ranjan, can you pls throw some light on the relationship of the pada and the AK.> > Warm regards,> > Sushmita> Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Kasturi,Sushmita & Prakash, Mother protects the child but cannot take back the child to her womb once she has delivered. Similarly the deity/devatha controlling the Chara Atmakaraka can protect the self but does not take back the self to the source. The biggest sacrifice is the sacrifice of the 'Aham/Ahamkara'. This great deed/sacrifice is the job of the devatha controlling the planet placed in 12th to karakamsa. In order to perform this greatest deed(nivedana of self), jyotish sastra advices(the chara atmakaraka/individual) to pray to the deity/devatha controlling the planet placed in the 12th to Karakamsa. Inorder to find out the inclination of the self the placement of Atmakaraka in the Nakshatra pada is also seen. Nakshatra is divided into four padas/charanas. Each pada has a specific portfolio. Prathama pada(first) deals with Dharma, the second deals with artha, the third deals with kama and the fourth deals with Moksha. Aham is represented by the index finger. When the goal is to sacrifice this aham we need not try to strenghthen it by wearing gems in the index finger. A sadhak is advised to place his index finger in the root of the thumb(Guru/God) to make his intentions of saranagadhi clear while he settles down in tapas/penance. Happily/happy to be yours, psramanrayanan Watch Hallmark. Enjoy cool movies. Win hot prizes! http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/hallmark/index.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 Om Namah SHivaya Dear kasturi You wrote > I remember having read in the archives, that if the AK planet is in > the 1st pada, it shows the soul longing for artha in this janma. AK > in the 2nd pada indicates the soul's longing for dharma, 3rd pada > indicates soul's longing for kaama and 4th pada for moksha. > 1st pada-dharma 2nd pada-artha 3rd pada-kama 4th pada-moksha Regards partha om tat sat vedic astrology, "rkrangan" <rkrangan> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > Om Namo Narayanaya > > > Dear Sushmita > > I have also started thinking seriously on this issue. My AK is Mars. > Infact, I have realised that in the past 4 months I have been drawn > to an ancient Lord Subramanya Swamy (Muruga) temple which also houses > a separate sanctum sanctorum for Mars. I worship Lord Muruga and Mars > every Tuesday at this temple. But this doubt on worshipping AK has > been lingering in my mind all along. > > I have no idea of the gems to be worn or not to be worn. > > Yes. The periods involving AK will teach a native important lessons > in this life. Lessons will be of penal nature for mistakes in the > past birth(s). > > I remember having read in the archives, that if the AK planet is in > the 1st pada, it shows the soul longing for artha in this janma. AK > in the 2nd pada indicates the soul's longing for dharma, 3rd pada > indicates soul's longing for kaama and 4th pada for moksha. > > Let's wait for Guru's guidance. > > Best wishes > R. Kasthuri Rangan > > > > vedic astrology, Sushmita S <sushmita34> > wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Ranjan, > > > > > > I can't beleive this, from the last few weeks I have been thinking > on asking same question that you have asked. > > > > 1. I always wanted to ask if prime importance in life should be > given to worshipping the AK. since it feels so logical to do so. > > > > 2. Also, it is said that one should not wear the stone of the AK, > why, what is the logic behind it. > > > > 3. Also, the lessons of the AK are given primarily when during > Mahadasha, antar or pratyantar. > > > > 4. Mr Ranjan, can you pls throw some light on the relationship of > the pada and the AK. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Sushmita > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 When highly elaveted souls have AK in artha or kama part, what does it means ? Denis1008 - V.partha sarathy vedic astrology Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:37 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post Om Namah SHivayaDear kasturiYou wrote> I remember having read in the archives, that if the AK planet is in > the 1st pada, it shows the soul longing for artha in this janma. AK > in the 2nd pada indicates the soul's longing for dharma, 3rd pada > indicates soul's longing for kaama and 4th pada for moksha.> 1st pada-dharma2nd pada-artha3rd pada-kama4th pada-mokshaRegardsparthaom tat sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Om Gurave Namah Om Namo Narayanaya Dear Partha Thanks for the correction. I was wondering where I had read about it. It was only after I posted it, did I recollect that Sanjay ji had mentioned it at Hyderabad. Sincerely R. Kasthuri Rangan vedic astrology, "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > Om Namah SHivaya > > Dear kasturi > You wrote > > > I remember having read in the archives, that if the AK planet is in > > the 1st pada, it shows the soul longing for artha in this janma. AK > > in the 2nd pada indicates the soul's longing for dharma, 3rd pada > > indicates soul's longing for kaama and 4th pada for moksha. > > > > 1st pada-dharma > 2nd pada-artha > 3rd pada-kama > 4th pada-moksha > > Regards > partha > om tat sat > > > vedic astrology, "rkrangan" <rkrangan> > wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > Om Namo Narayanaya > > > > > > Dear Sushmita > > > > I have also started thinking seriously on this issue. My AK is > Mars. > > Infact, I have realised that in the past 4 months I have been drawn > > to an ancient Lord Subramanya Swamy (Muruga) temple which also > houses > > a separate sanctum sanctorum for Mars. I worship Lord Muruga and > Mars > > every Tuesday at this temple. But this doubt on worshipping AK has > > been lingering in my mind all along. > > > > I have no idea of the gems to be worn or not to be worn. > > > > Yes. The periods involving AK will teach a native important lessons > > in this life. Lessons will be of penal nature for mistakes in the > > past birth(s). > > > > I remember having read in the archives, that if the AK planet is in > > the 1st pada, it shows the soul longing for artha in this janma. AK > > in the 2nd pada indicates the soul's longing for dharma, 3rd pada > > indicates soul's longing for kaama and 4th pada for moksha. > > > > Let's wait for Guru's guidance. > > > > Best wishes > > R. Kasthuri Rangan > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Sushmita S > <sushmita34> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Ranjan, > > > > > > > > > I can't beleive this, from the last few weeks I have been > thinking > > on asking same question that you have asked. > > > > > > 1. I always wanted to ask if prime importance in life should be > > given to worshipping the AK. since it feels so logical to do so. > > > > > > 2. Also, it is said that one should not wear the stone of the AK, > > why, what is the logic behind it. > > > > > > 3. Also, the lessons of the AK are given primarily when during > > Mahadasha, antar or pratyantar. > > > > > > 4. Mr Ranjan, can you pls throw some light on the relationship of > > the pada and the AK. > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > Sushmita > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Om Gam Glaum Ganapathaye Vighnavinaashine Svaaha || Dear Rangan, You have listed the order incorrectly! The first Pada shows Dharma, the 2nd Artha, then Kaama and finally Moksha. The easiest way to understand this is as follows: Dharma Trikona = 1, 5 & 9 Artha Trikona = 2, 6 & 10 Kaama Trikona = 3, 7 & 11 Moksha Trikona = 4, 8 & 12 So just use the first house in each of the Trikona we get Dharma = 1, Artha = 2, Kaama = 3 and Moksha = 4 and these correspond the the 4 padas of a nakshatra. Hope this helps. Regards Narayan vedic astrology, rkrangan <rkrangan> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > Om Namo Narayanaya > > > Dear Sushmita > > I have also started thinking seriously on this issue. My AK is Mars. > Infact, I have realised that in the past 4 months I have been drawn > to an ancient Lord Subramanya Swamy (Muruga) temple which also houses > a separate sanctum sanctorum for Mars. I worship Lord Muruga and Mars > every Tuesday at this temple. But this doubt on worshipping AK has > been lingering in my mind all along. > > I have no idea of the gems to be worn or not to be worn. > > Yes. The periods involving AK will teach a native important lessons > in this life. Lessons will be of penal nature for mistakes in the > past birth(s). > > I remember having read in the archives, that if the AK planet is in > the 1st pada, it shows the soul longing for artha in this janma. AK > in the 2nd pada indicates the soul's longing for dharma, 3rd pada > indicates soul's longing for kaama and 4th pada for moksha. > > Let's wait for Guru's guidance. > > Best wishes > R. Kasthuri Rangan > > > > vedic astrology, Sushmita S <sushmita34> > wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Ranjan, > > > > > > I can't beleive this, from the last few weeks I have been thinking > on asking same question that you have asked. > > > > 1. I always wanted to ask if prime importance in life should be > given to worshipping the AK. since it feels so logical to do so. > > > > 2. Also, it is said that one should not wear the stone of the AK, > why, what is the logic behind it. > > > > 3. Also, the lessons of the AK are given primarily when during > Mahadasha, antar or pratyantar. > > > > 4. Mr Ranjan, can you pls throw some light on the relationship of > the pada and the AK. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Sushmita > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ...... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Om Gurave Namah Om Namo Narayanaya Dear Narayan Yes. I have already accepted my error in response to Partha's post. It was sheer oversight. Sincerely R. Kasthuri Rangan vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer" <narayan@s...> wrote: > Om Gam Glaum Ganapathaye Vighnavinaashine Svaaha || > > Dear Rangan, > > You have listed the order incorrectly! > > The first Pada shows Dharma, the 2nd Artha, then Kaama and finally > Moksha. The easiest way to understand this is as follows: > > Dharma Trikona = 1, 5 & 9 > Artha Trikona = 2, 6 & 10 > Kaama Trikona = 3, 7 & 11 > Moksha Trikona = 4, 8 & 12 > > So just use the first house in each of the Trikona we get Dharma = 1, > Artha = 2, Kaama = 3 and Moksha = 4 and these correspond the the 4 > padas of a nakshatra. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards > Narayan > > > vedic astrology, rkrangan <rkrangan> > wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > Om Namo Narayanaya > > > > > > Dear Sushmita > > > > I have also started thinking seriously on this issue. My AK is > Mars. > > Infact, I have realised that in the past 4 months I have been drawn > > to an ancient Lord Subramanya Swamy (Muruga) temple which also > houses > > a separate sanctum sanctorum for Mars. I worship Lord Muruga and > Mars > > every Tuesday at this temple. But this doubt on worshipping AK has > > been lingering in my mind all along. > > > > I have no idea of the gems to be worn or not to be worn. > > > > Yes. The periods involving AK will teach a native important lessons > > in this life. Lessons will be of penal nature for mistakes in the > > past birth(s). > > > > I remember having read in the archives, that if the AK planet is in > > the 1st pada, it shows the soul longing for artha in this janma. AK > > in the 2nd pada indicates the soul's longing for dharma, 3rd pada > > indicates soul's longing for kaama and 4th pada for moksha. > > > > Let's wait for Guru's guidance. > > > > Best wishes > > R. Kasthuri Rangan > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Sushmita S > <sushmita34> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Ranjan, > > > > > > > > > I can't beleive this, from the last few weeks I have been > thinking > > on asking same question that you have asked. > > > > > > 1. I always wanted to ask if prime importance in life should be > > given to worshipping the AK. since it feels so logical to do so. > > > > > > 2. Also, it is said that one should not wear the stone of the AK, > > why, what is the logic behind it. > > > > > > 3. Also, the lessons of the AK are given primarily when during > > Mahadasha, antar or pratyantar. > > > > > > 4. Mr Ranjan, can you pls throw some light on the relationship of > > the pada and the AK. > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > Sushmita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ...... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya || Namaste Gurudev, All chaioters are not Sri Krishna, nor all chariot masters are Arjuna! ! ! Tell us the rulers that apply to ordinary persons like us. Regards & best wishes, Shailesh - Sanjay Rath vedic astrology Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:42 PM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post |brihaspatim varenyam| Dear Denis The master of the chariot is not as important as the one Who controls the reigns of the chariot. See the pada of the Moon. Although this also is not the final say but is more important. ~ om tat sat ~ Yours truly, Sanjay Rath --------------------------- H-5, B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India +91-674-2436871 http://srath.com --------------------------- Denis 1008 [denis1008 ]Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:37 PMvedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post When highly elaveted souls have AK in artha or kama part, what does it means ? Denis1008 - V.partha sarathy vedic astrology Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:37 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post Om Namah SHivayaDear kasturiYou wrote> I remember having read in the archives, that if the AK planet is in > the 1st pada, it shows the soul longing for artha in this janma. AK > in the 2nd pada indicates the soul's longing for dharma, 3rd pada > indicates soul's longing for kaama and 4th pada for moksha.> 1st pada-dharma2nd pada-artha3rd pada-kama4th pada-mokshaRegardsparthaom tat sat ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release Date: 5/6/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 While considering padas we have to calculate moon(nakshatra pada)or where Ak(Nakshatra Pada).I am really confused.If someone clarify?? Thanks Raji Shailesh Chadha <scc (AT) sindhu (DOT) biz> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya || Namaste Gurudev, All chaioters are not Sri Krishna, nor all chariot masters are Arjuna! ! ! Tell us the rulers that apply to ordinary persons like us. Regards & best wishes, Shailesh - Sanjay Rath vedic astrology Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:42 PM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post |brihaspatim varenyam| Dear Denis The master of the chariot is not as important as the one Who controls the reigns of the chariot. See the pada of the Moon. Although this also is not the final say but is more important. ~ om tat sat ~ Yours truly, Sanjay Rath --------------------------- H-5, B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India +91-674-2436871 http://srath.com --------------------------- Denis 1008 [denis1008 ]Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:37 PMvedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post When highly elaveted souls have AK in artha or kama part, what does it means ? Denis1008 - V.partha sarathy vedic astrology Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:37 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post Om Namah SHivayaDear kasturiYou wrote> I remember having read in the archives, that if the AK planet is in > the 1st pada, it shows the soul longing for artha in this janma. AK > in the 2nd pada indicates the soul's longing for dharma, 3rd pada > indicates soul's longing for kaama and 4th pada for moksha.> 1st pada-dharma2nd pada-artha3rd pada-kama4th pada-mokshaRegardsparthaom tat sat ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release Date: 5/6/2003Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Shaileshji, Allow me to interfere. I think Gurudev meant Moon as holding the reins, while AK is the master! Correct me if i am wrong. regards viswanadham vedic astrology, "Shailesh Chadha" <scc@s...> wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya || > > Namaste Gurudev, > > All chaioters are not Sri Krishna, nor all chariot masters are Arjuna! ! ! > > Tell us the rulers that apply to ordinary persons like us. > > Regards & best wishes, > > Shailesh > - > Sanjay Rath > vedic astrology > Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:42 PM > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post > > > > > |brihaspatim varenyam| > Dear Denis > The master of the chariot is not as important as the one Who controls the reigns of the chariot. > See the pada of the Moon. Although this also is not the final say but is more important. > ~ om tat sat ~ > Yours truly, > Sanjay Rath > --------------------------- > H-5, B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > +91-674-2436871 http://srath.com > --------------------------- > > Denis 1008 [denis1008] > Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:37 PM > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post > > > When highly elaveted souls have AK in artha or kama part, what does it means ? > > Denis1008 > - > V.partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:37 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post > > > Om Namah SHivaya > > Dear kasturi > You wrote > > > I remember having read in the archives, that if the AK planet is in > > the 1st pada, it shows the soul longing for artha in this janma. AK > > in the 2nd pada indicates the soul's longing for dharma, 3rd pada > > indicates soul's longing for kaama and 4th pada for moksha. > > > > 1st pada-dharma > 2nd pada-artha > 3rd pada-kama > 4th pada-moksha > > Regards > partha > om tat sat > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release 5/6/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya || Dear Vishwanadham, You are absolutely right - there was no doubt about it. But what I was asking was whether this rule applies universally? Because if one has a chaioter like Sri Krishna (Moon is Sri Krishna), then the master of the chariot - Arjuna - will have full faith in him and will gladly surrender the control to him. But is it possible in normal case of ordinary mortals - that the moon will ALWAYS be stronger than the AK? Or do we again have some rules for comparison of relative strengths? Remember, Gurudev also mentioned "Although this also is not the final say but is more important." Regards & best wishes, Shailesh - "vishwanatham" <vishwanatham <vedic astrology> Friday, May 30, 2003 1:12 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Shaileshji, > > Allow me to interfere. I think Gurudev meant Moon as holding the > reins, while AK is the master! > > Correct me if i am wrong. > > regards > viswanadham > > vedic astrology, "Shailesh Chadha" <scc@s...> > wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya || > > > > Namaste Gurudev, > > > > All chaioters are not Sri Krishna, nor all chariot masters are > Arjuna! ! ! > > > > Tell us the rulers that apply to ordinary persons like us. > > > > Regards & best wishes, > > > > Shailesh > > - > > Sanjay Rath > > vedic astrology > > Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:42 PM > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post > > > > > > > > > > |brihaspatim varenyam| > > Dear Denis > > The master of the chariot is not as important as the one Who > controls the reigns of the chariot. > > See the pada of the Moon. Although this also is not the final say > but is more important. > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Yours truly, > > Sanjay Rath > > --------------------------- > > H-5, B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > > +91-674-2436871 http://srath.com > > --------------------------- > > > > Denis 1008 [denis1008] > > Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:37 PM > > vedic astrology > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post > > > > > > When highly elaveted souls have AK in artha or kama part, what > does it means ? > > > > Denis1008 > > - > > V.partha sarathy > > vedic astrology > > Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:37 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post > > > > > > Om Namah SHivaya > > > > Dear kasturi > > You wrote > > > > > I remember having read in the archives, that if the AK planet > is in > > > the 1st pada, it shows the soul longing for artha in this > janma. AK > > > in the 2nd pada indicates the soul's longing for dharma, 3rd > pada > > > indicates soul's longing for kaama and 4th pada for moksha. > > > > > > > 1st pada-dharma > > 2nd pada-artha > > 3rd pada-kama > > 4th pada-moksha > > > > Regards > > partha > > om tat sat > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release 5/6/2003 > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release 5/6/2003 Attachment: (application/msword) Om Gurave Namah.doc [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2003 Report Share Posted June 1, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Shailesh Ji, It was Nara & Narayana (one and the same), we are speaking about! One shows the way to mortals like us to give full control to Bhagavan & surrender. The example case was for mortals only and it speaks about Dharma , Artha , Kama & Moksha. It was clarified that Moon's placement in the Nakshatra padas need to be reckoned, rather than the AK's placement, to decide on the focus of the individual. AK's ultimate objective is Moksha. Not that Moon is stronger (AK is the King of the horoscope) to AK, but it is in a way an obstacle in AK's path. i have a feeling that you know all these things. i post it anyway with a hope that it would help someone else. regards viswanadham vedic astrology, "Shailesh Chadha" <scc@s...> wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya || > > Dear Vishwanadham, > > You are absolutely right - there was no doubt about it. > > But what I was asking was whether this rule applies universally? > > Because if one has a chaioter like Sri Krishna (Moon is Sri Krishna), then > the master of the chariot - Arjuna - will have full faith in him and will > gladly surrender the control to him. > > But is it possible in normal case of ordinary mortals - that the moon will > ALWAYS be stronger than the AK? Or do we again have some rules for > comparison of relative strengths? > > Remember, Gurudev also mentioned "Although this also is not the final say > but is more important." > > Regards & best wishes, > > Shailesh > - > "vishwanatham" <vishwanatham@r...> > <vedic astrology> > Friday, May 30, 2003 1:12 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Shaileshji, > > > > Allow me to interfere. I think Gurudev meant Moon as holding the > > reins, while AK is the master! > > > > Correct me if i am wrong. > > > > regards > > viswanadham > > > > vedic astrology, "Shailesh Chadha" <scc@s...> > > wrote: > > > || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya || > > > > > > Namaste Gurudev, > > > > > > All chaioters are not Sri Krishna, nor all chariot masters are > > Arjuna! ! ! > > > > > > Tell us the rulers that apply to ordinary persons like us. > > > > > > Regards & best wishes, > > > > > > Shailesh > > > - > > > Sanjay Rath > > > vedic astrology > > > Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:42 PM > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |brihaspatim varenyam| > > > Dear Denis > > > The master of the chariot is not as important as the one Who > > controls the reigns of the chariot. > > > See the pada of the Moon. Although this also is not the final say > > but is more important. > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > Yours truly, > > > Sanjay Rath > > > --------------------------- > > > H-5, B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > > > +91-674-2436871 http://srath.com > > > --------------------------- > > > > > > Denis 1008 [denis1008] > > > Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:37 PM > > > vedic astrology > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post > > > > > > > > > When highly elaveted souls have AK in artha or kama part, what > > does it means ? > > > > > > Denis1008 > > > - > > > V.partha sarathy > > > vedic astrology > > > Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:37 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post > > > > > > > > > Om Namah SHivaya > > > > > > Dear kasturi > > > You wrote > > > > > > > I remember having read in the archives, that if the AK planet > > is in > > > > the 1st pada, it shows the soul longing for artha in this > > janma. AK > > > > in the 2nd pada indicates the soul's longing for dharma, 3rd > > pada > > > > indicates soul's longing for kaama and 4th pada for moksha. > > > > > > > > > > 1st pada-dharma > > > 2nd pada-artha > > > 3rd pada-kama > > > 4th pada-moksha > > > > > > Regards > > > partha > > > om tat sat > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release Date: 5/6/2003 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release 5/6/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2003 Report Share Posted June 1, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya || Dear Vishwanadham, Let us think about AK's ultimate objective - as you mentioned, it is moksha. And yes, the moon, representing desires of the 'mana' can create obstacles. So how does the individual gain moksha - only by overpowering these obstacles, isn't it? That would happen only if the 'longing for moksha' being stronger than the 'material desires'! In another thread, Sanjay ji has clarified that AK is significator of AATMA (self) and not AATMAA(soul). Thus, in a chart, we have several layers in an individual that make him/ her 'click': * Lagna, and influences on it, represent the physical being * Moon represents the 'mana' - desires, mental inclinations, etc. * Sun sigifies the soul - the 'aatmaa' * AK - signifies the accumulated karma/ prarabdha All these have to be in sync - aspiring for moksha - for an individual to achieve the ultimate goal of 'moksha', Ofcourse, the above is MY UNDERSTANDING - hopefully correct. And, although you give me credit for more knowledge than I possess - thanks for the compliment, all the same - I request for correction and guidance of Gurus. Regards & best wishes, Shailesh - "vishwanatham" <vishwanatham <vedic astrology> Sunday, June 01, 2003 6:35 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Shailesh Ji, > > It was Nara & Narayana (one and the same), we are speaking about! One > shows the way to mortals like us to give full control to Bhagavan & > surrender. > > The example case was for mortals only and it speaks about Dharma , > Artha , Kama & Moksha. It was clarified that Moon's placement in the > Nakshatra padas need to be reckoned, rather than the AK's placement, > to decide on the focus of the individual. AK's ultimate objective is > Moksha. > > Not that Moon is stronger (AK is the King of the horoscope) to AK, > but it is in a way an obstacle in AK's path. > > i have a feeling that you know all these things. i post it anyway > with a hope that it would help someone else. > > regards > viswanadham > > vedic astrology, "Shailesh Chadha" <scc@s...> > wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya || > > > > Dear Vishwanadham, > > > > You are absolutely right - there was no doubt about it. > > > > But what I was asking was whether this rule applies universally? > > > > Because if one has a chaioter like Sri Krishna (Moon is Sri > Krishna), then > > the master of the chariot - Arjuna - will have full faith in him > and will > > gladly surrender the control to him. > > > > But is it possible in normal case of ordinary mortals - that the > moon will > > ALWAYS be stronger than the AK? Or do we again have some rules for > > comparison of relative strengths? > > > > Remember, Gurudev also mentioned "Although this also is not the > final say > > but is more important." > > > > Regards & best wishes, > > > > Shailesh > > - > > "vishwanatham" <vishwanatham@r...> > > <vedic astrology> > > Friday, May 30, 2003 1:12 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > > Dear Shaileshji, > > > > > > Allow me to interfere. I think Gurudev meant Moon as holding the > > > reins, while AK is the master! > > > > > > Correct me if i am wrong. > > > > > > regards > > > viswanadham > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Shailesh Chadha" > <scc@s...> > > > wrote: > > > > || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya || > > > > > > > > Namaste Gurudev, > > > > > > > > All chaioters are not Sri Krishna, nor all chariot masters are > > > Arjuna! ! ! > > > > > > > > Tell us the rulers that apply to ordinary persons like us. > > > > > > > > Regards & best wishes, > > > > > > > > Shailesh > > > > - > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:42 PM > > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised > Post > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |brihaspatim varenyam| > > > > Dear Denis > > > > The master of the chariot is not as important as the one Who > > > controls the reigns of the chariot. > > > > See the pada of the Moon. Although this also is not the final > say > > > but is more important. > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > Yours truly, > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > --------------------------- > > > > H-5, B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > > > > +91-674-2436871 http://srath.com > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > > > > Denis 1008 [denis1008] > > > > Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:37 PM > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised > Post > > > > > > > > > > > > When highly elaveted souls have AK in artha or kama part, what > > > does it means ? > > > > > > > > Denis1008 > > > > - > > > > V.partha sarathy > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:37 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised > Post > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namah SHivaya > > > > > > > > Dear kasturi > > > > You wrote > > > > > > > > > I remember having read in the archives, that if the AK > planet > > > is in > > > > > the 1st pada, it shows the soul longing for artha in this > > > janma. AK > > > > > in the 2nd pada indicates the soul's longing for dharma, > 3rd > > > pada > > > > > indicates soul's longing for kaama and 4th pada for > moksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st pada-dharma > > > > 2nd pada-artha > > > > 3rd pada-kama > > > > 4th pada-moksha > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > partha > > > > om tat sat > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release Date: > 5/6/2003 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release 5/6/2003 > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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