Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 I recently came across two charts who look alike.I mean they are of twins but there is whole lot of difference in their lives.The elder one is retarded mentally and the younger one is brilliant .He is brilliant in his studies.He has done Law , MBA , Engneering and is now practicing law.I looked through the D-charts of both the brothers but failed to site the affliction in the elder ones chart.Which D chart shows affliction?His parents are getting old and are in a bad shape because the tension of their son doesnt let them in peace.The younger one is doing fine for the family but they are worried about the elder one...what will happen to him after their death?Whether he will regain consciousness if ever?I am really worried for them.Could the respected Gurus shed light whether the elder one has a chance for him in this life in repsect of his mental balance?He was born retarded and hasnt developed this.The parents dont wish that their son should live long since no one is going to take care of him after their death or atleast they are worried so. I am just amazed inspite of exalted jupiter in the lagna with moon in the seventh forming gaajkesari yoga how can the affliction be so serious after moon is a karka for mind and jupiter and venus aspecting it form good yogas with also chandra adhi yoga besides other yogas in the chart. I pray to all the learned Gurus to help the mother of the native who is in distress.All the suggestions for the restoration of mental balance of the individual would be welcome and also if he cant get cured what is the age of the native since the mother is really worried for her son.Can the age be different for two brothers when the rasi chart is going to be the same?atleast the age group I think should be similar. Elder son-june 24 19677:15 AMLatitude: 30° 22' N Longitude: 75° 53' E Younger son -june 24 19678:35 amLatitude: 30° 22' N Longitude: 75° 53' E Regards,Ragini SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Ragini, If possible, can you send the charts of the parents? Any other siblings? regards Hari vedic astrology, as saf <astro_learner> wrote: > > > Respected Members/Gurus, > I recently came across two charts who look alike.I mean they are of twins but there is whole lot of difference in their lives.The elder one is retarded mentally and the younger one is brilliant .He is brilliant in his studies.He has done Law , MBA , Engneering and is now practicing law. > I looked through the D-charts of both the brothers but failed to site the affliction in the elder ones chart.Which D chart shows affliction?His parents are getting old and are in a bad shape because the tension of their son doesnt let them in peace.The younger one is doing fine for the family but they are worried about the elder one...what will happen to him after their death?Whether he will regain consciousness if ever?I am really worried for them.Could the respected Gurus shed light whether the elder one has a chance for him in this life in repsect of his mental balance?He was born retarded and hasnt developed this.The parents dont wish that their son should live long since no one is going to take care of him after their death or atleast they are worried so. > I am just amazed inspite of exalted jupiter in the lagna with moon in the seventh forming gaajkesari yoga how can the affliction be so serious after moon is a karka for mind and jupiter and venus aspecting it form good yogas with also chandra adhi yoga besides other yogas in the chart. > I pray to all the learned Gurus to help the mother of the native who is in distress.All the suggestions for the restoration of mental balance of the individual would be welcome and also if he cant get cured what is the age of the native since the mother is really worried for her son.Can the age be different for two brothers when the rasi chart is going to be the same?atleast the age group I think should be similar. > Elder son- > june 24 1967 > 7:15 AM > Latitude: 30° 22' N > Longitude: 75° 53' E > Younger son - > june 24 1967 > 8:35 am > Latitude: 30° 22' N > Longitude: 75° 53' E > Regards, > Ragini > > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 Here is the birth chart of the elder sister.she is a doctor . 8-nov-1964 3-15 PM Latitude: 30° 42' N 74° 47' E I would be grateful if someone could help. Regards Ragini onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---Dear Ragini,If possible, can you send the charts of the parents? Any other siblings?regardsHari--- In vedic astrology, as saf <astro_learner> wrote:> > > Respected Members/Gurus,> I recently came across two charts who look alike.I mean they are of twins but there is whole lot of difference in their lives.The elder one is retarded mentally and the younger one is brilliant .He is brilliant in his studies.He has done Law , MBA , Engneering and is now practicing law.> I looked through the D-charts of both the brothers but failed to site the affliction in the elder ones chart.Which D chart shows affliction?His parents are getting old and are in a bad shape because the tension of their son doesnt let them in peace.The younger one is doing fine for the family but they are worried about the elder one...what will happen to him after their death?Whether he will regain consciousness if ever?I am really worried for them.Could the respected Gurus shed light whether the elder one has a chance for him in this life in repsect of his mental balance?He was born retarded and hasnt developed this.The parents dont wish that their son should live long since no one is going to take care of him after their death or atleast they are worried so.> I am just amazed inspite of exalted jupiter in the lagna with moon in the seventh forming gaajkesari yoga how can the affliction be so serious after moon is a karka for mind and jupiter and venus aspecting it form good yogas with also chandra adhi yoga besides other yogas in the chart.> I pray to all the learned Gurus to help the mother of the native who is in distress.All the suggestions for the restoration of mental balance of the individual would be welcome and also if he cant get cured what is the age of the native since the mother is really worried for her son.Can the age be different for two brothers when the rasi chart is going to be the same?atleast the age group I think should be similar.> Elder son-> june 24 1967> 7:15 AM> Latitude: 30° 22' N > Longitude: 75° 53' E > Younger son -> june 24 1967> 8:35 am> Latitude: 30° 22' N > Longitude: 75° 53' E > Regards,> Ragini> > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Om Sreem Suragurave Brihaspataye Namah Namaste Ragini, > Respected Members/Gurus,> I recently came across two charts who look alike.I mean they are of twins but there is whole lot of difference in their lives.The elder one is retarded mentally and the younger one is brilliant .He is brilliant in his studies.He has done Law , MBA , Engneering and is now practicing law.> I looked through the D-charts of both the brothers but failed to site the affliction in the elder ones chart.Which D chart shows affliction?His parents are getting old and are in a bad shape because the tension of their son doesnt let them in peace.The younger one is doing fine for the family but they are worried about the elder one...what will happen to him after their death?Whether he will regain consciousness if ever?I am really worried for them.Could the respected Gurus shed light whether the elder one has a chance for him in this life in repsect of his mental balance?He was born retarded and hasnt developed this.The parents dont wish that their son should live long since no one is going to take care of him after their death or atleast they are worried so.> I am just amazed inspite of exalted jupiter in the lagna with moon in the seventh forming gaajkesari yoga how can the affliction be so serious after moon is a karka for mind and jupiter and venus aspecting it form good yogas with also chandra adhi yoga besides other yogas in the chart.> I pray to all the learned Gurus to help the mother of the native who is in distress.All the suggestions for the restoration of mental balance of the individual would be welcome and also if he cant get cured what is the age of the native since the mother is really worried for her son.Can the age be different for two brothers when the rasi chart is going to be the same?atleast the age group I think should be similar.> Elder son-> june 24 1967> 7:15 AM> Latitude: 30° 22' N > Longitude: 75° 53' E > Younger son -> june 24 1967> 8:35 am> Latitude: 30° 22' N > Longitude: 75° 53' E > Regards,> Ragini Just a few observations: Pranapada lagna described by Parasara shows the life energy present in one. Pranapada means "base of the lifeforce". In the first chart, not only is lagna is in the early degrees of Cancer, but Pranapada lagna is in Gandanta. It is in the first degree of Aries. Secondly, the strength of lagna lord is very important for intelligence and overall well-being. In the first chart, Moon is in Ghora (terrible) nadi, while Moon moved to Prabhaa (glow) nadi by the time the second child was born. Trimsamsa shows the weakness in constitution. It is a negative chart. Exalted Moon occupies D-30 lagna. It is evil for lagna lord of rasi chart (who represents the essence of a person) to occupy Trimsamsa lagna. He shows some problems related to fluids (because he is in a sign owned by Venus in D-30) in the head. Another variation of D-30 shows the punishment to sins (please refer to "Shashtyamsa like Trimsamsa" in commercial JHora). In this D-30 of the elder twin, lagna lord of rasi chart (Moon) is in Marana Karaka sthana (death-causing station), while lagna is afflictged by Ketu. D-27 is the chart of inherent strengths and weaknesses. Lagna lord of rasi chart is placed in marana karaka sthana in this chart too. Overall, not only is lagna Moon in Nidra avastha (sleeping state, as per Sayanaadi avasthas), but he is in marana karaka sthana in the charts showing punishment to past sins and inherent strengths and weaknesses. But, had Pranapada lagna been somewhere else instead of the Gandanta, things would've been far better. To me, that's the key. The younger twin's PPL is in the 11th degree of Taurus. Even though lagna is the same, horalagna is different. So longevities can be different. Please calculate them using the standard rules. But, until Sun's Ashtottari dasa during 2024-2030, I don't see a fatal period for the elder twin. Sun is with Rahu in Aq, in the 7th house in D-30 (shashtyamsa like D-30). Ketu is with exalted Jupiter in D-60 and occupies Brahmamsa (Brahma = birth or rebirth). Ketu's Moola dasa runs till 2008. There is some potential in this dasa for being cured. Jupiter's antardasa in 2005-06 offers the best hope. Jupiter and Ketu occupy A9 in D-60. They represent the dharma he followed in last life. During 2005-06, a spiritual master with past life connection may bless him out of his troubles. The chance is not great, but this is the only period of hope I see. Ask the parents to keep praying until then. Tell the mother to just keep praying to Shiva with Mahamrityunjaya mantram everyday (11 times everyday) until then. I advise them to undertake a 11-day Rudrabhishekam starting at 9:50 am (IST) on 18th August 2005 and going on till 28th August 2005. They will find a spiritual guru by then who will help them with the Rudrabhishekam. Within a year from the Rudrabhishekam, there may be an accident (perhaps in November 2005-January 2006) which may cure the native. I sincerely pray that the prayers of his parents be answered. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Namaste Ragini, I forgot to mention something very important. When one gets an advice from an astrologer, it is important to offer dakshina in order to receive the maximum benefit from the advice. Please pass on my advice to the parents of the twins and request them to donate a small amount that they can easily afford at a Shiva temple in my name (P.V.R. Narasimha Rao). It will keep them free from karmic debt and also they will benefit from my advice to the fullest. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > Ketu is with exalted Jupiter in D-60 and occupies Brahmamsa (Brahma = birth or rebirth). Ketu's Moola dasa runs till 2008. There is some potential in this dasa for being cured. Jupiter's antardasa in 2005-06 offers the best hope. Jupiter and Ketu occupy A9 in D-60. They represent the dharma he followed in last life. During 2005-06, a spiritual master with past life connection may bless him out of his troubles. The chance is not great, but this is the only period of hope I see.> > Ask the parents to keep praying until then. Tell the mother to just keep praying to Shiva with Mahamrityunjaya mantram everyday (11 times everyday) until then. I advise them to undertake a 11-day Rudrabhishekam starting at 9:50 am (IST) on 18th August 2005 and going on till 28th August 2005. They will find a spiritual guru by then who will help them with the Rudrabhishekam. Within a year from the Rudrabhishekam, there may be an accident (perhaps in November 2005-January 2006) which may cure the native.> > I sincerely pray that the prayers of his parents be answered.> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Naramsimha, Call it intuition or otherwise but I was expecting you to come out of seclusion and answer this toughest of tough cases! In my foolish overenthusiasm, I had submitted my humble attempt to analyse the case! Nevertheless, I felt the lagna would make a major difference in this case but who is to know about pranapada lagna? The name itself can be connected to the life's breath or the energy of the individual in short? Secondly I had concentrated on the "physical" plane of activities viz., health and education. It is indeed an eyeopener to consider higher planes of activities for attempting cases of this type. Narasimha, in your book you have said if the method of three pairs give different results and Moon be in lagna or 7th, then the Moon + Saturn pair must be taken as the basis. Add to this, the fleeting observation that twins generally die in similar circumstances and I must ask the question why do you feel the lagna + hora lagna will make a difference in this case? The predictions given by you are, for want of any other word, simply amazing. In this case, we can only pray and hope the almighty will shower divine grace on the parents and the twins. regards Hari vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Thanks much for this analysis- it will take certainly more time for me, to study this chart as per your directions. However, I can see right away obstacles to my understaning: I neither use nor am I familiar with concepts I highlighted bellow Pranapada lagna described by Parasara shows the life energy present in one. Pranapada means "base of the lifeforce". 1. (A) How do I get this, obviously important Lagna? Would you please jot down some instruction, please? -next, can you suggest any reading available on this In the first chart, not only is lagna is in the early degrees of 2. (A) I've met, though rarely, that 'maturity concept apllies to lagna degree- haven's seen this explicitly stated as in your post here. It is disadvantage, like with any other planet to occupy early degrees of the sign /0-5/- How would that be understood? Please elaborate on this Secondly, the strength of lagna lord is very important for intelligence and overall well-being. In the first chart, Moon is in Ghora (terrible) nadi, while Moon moved to Prabhaa (glow) nadi by the time the second child was born. (A) Narasimha, please guide here: on various Moon nadi, reading, how do we go about finding each of them /I suppose there are more than 2 nadi position/mentioned above/ All in all crucial things seem to be 'terra incognita', unless you provide more info. I can sense mental enjoyment at the prospect of exploring this further. Thanks, Anna SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 dear pvr ji, namaste, an enlightening analysis indeed. whenever you find time, can you plz enlighten more on the nadis, and how to use it? regards jk - Narasimha P.V.R. Rao vedic astrology Friday, June 20, 2003 9:42 PM [vedic astrology] Re: TWIN BROTHERS/ONE IN DISTRESS..GURUS PLS RESPOND!! Om Sreem Suragurave Brihaspataye Namah Namaste Ragini, > Respected Members/Gurus,> I recently came across two charts who look alike.I mean they are of twins but there is whole lot of difference in their lives.The elder one is retarded mentally and the younger one is brilliant .He is brilliant in his studies.He has done Law , MBA , Engneering and is now practicing law.> I looked through the D-charts of both the brothers but failed to site the affliction in the elder ones chart.Which D chart shows affliction?His parents are getting old and are in a bad shape because the tension of their son doesnt let them in peace.The younger one is doing fine for the family but they are worried about the elder one...what will happen to him after their death?Whether he will regain consciousness if ever?I am really worried for them.Could the respected Gurus shed light whether the elder one has a chance for him in this life in repsect of his mental balance?He was born retarded and hasnt developed this.The parents dont wish that their son should live long since no one is going to take care of him after their death or atleast they are worried so.> I am just amazed inspite of exalted jupiter in the lagna with moon in the seventh forming gaajkesari yoga how can the affliction be so serious after moon is a karka for mind and jupiter and venus aspecting it form good yogas with also chandra adhi yoga besides other yogas in the chart.> I pray to all the learned Gurus to help the mother of the native who is in distress.All the suggestions for the restoration of mental balance of the individual would be welcome and also if he cant get cured what is the age of the native since the mother is really worried for her son.Can the age be different for two brothers when the rasi chart is going to be the same?atleast the age group I think should be similar.> Elder son-> june 24 1967> 7:15 AM> Latitude: 30° 22' N > Longitude: 75° 53' E > Younger son -> june 24 1967> 8:35 am> Latitude: 30° 22' N > Longitude: 75° 53' E > Regards,> Ragini Just a few observations: Pranapada lagna described by Parasara shows the life energy present in one. Pranapada means "base of the lifeforce". In the first chart, not only is lagna is in the early degrees of Cancer, but Pranapada lagna is in Gandanta. It is in the first degree of Aries. Secondly, the strength of lagna lord is very important for intelligence and overall well-being. In the first chart, Moon is in Ghora (terrible) nadi, while Moon moved to Prabhaa (glow) nadi by the time the second child was born. Trimsamsa shows the weakness in constitution. It is a negative chart. Exalted Moon occupies D-30 lagna. It is evil for lagna lord of rasi chart (who represents the essence of a person) to occupy Trimsamsa lagna. He shows some problems related to fluids (because he is in a sign owned by Venus in D-30) in the head. Another variation of D-30 shows the punishment to sins (please refer to "Shashtyamsa like Trimsamsa" in commercial JHora). In this D-30 of the elder twin, lagna lord of rasi chart (Moon) is in Marana Karaka sthana (death-causing station), while lagna is afflictged by Ketu. D-27 is the chart of inherent strengths and weaknesses. Lagna lord of rasi chart is placed in marana karaka sthana in this chart too. Overall, not only is lagna Moon in Nidra avastha (sleeping state, as per Sayanaadi avasthas), but he is in marana karaka sthana in the charts showing punishment to past sins and inherent strengths and weaknesses. But, had Pranapada lagna been somewhere else instead of the Gandanta, things would've been far better. To me, that's the key. The younger twin's PPL is in the 11th degree of Taurus. Even though lagna is the same, horalagna is different. So longevities can be different. Please calculate them using the standard rules. But, until Sun's Ashtottari dasa during 2024-2030, I don't see a fatal period for the elder twin. Sun is with Rahu in Aq, in the 7th house in D-30 (shashtyamsa like D-30). Ketu is with exalted Jupiter in D-60 and occupies Brahmamsa (Brahma = birth or rebirth). Ketu's Moola dasa runs till 2008. There is some potential in this dasa for being cured. Jupiter's antardasa in 2005-06 offers the best hope. Jupiter and Ketu occupy A9 in D-60. They represent the dharma he followed in last life. During 2005-06, a spiritual master with past life connection may bless him out of his troubles. The chance is not great, but this is the only period of hope I see. Ask the parents to keep praying until then. Tell the mother to just keep praying to Shiva with Mahamrityunjaya mantram everyday (11 times everyday) until then. I advise them to undertake a 11-day Rudrabhishekam starting at 9:50 am (IST) on 18th August 2005 and going on till 28th August 2005. They will find a spiritual guru by then who will help them with the Rudrabhishekam. Within a year from the Rudrabhishekam, there may be an accident (perhaps in November 2005-January 2006) which may cure the native. I sincerely pray that the prayers of his parents be answered. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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