Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Om Namah Shivaya Dear Visti He could be a criminal lawyer. With dasamsa lagna in virgo, mercury is in 7th, venus and moon in 2nd. With Dasamsa lagna in leo, sun is in lagna, Yamadharma raja Saturn is in 10th. Ketu and mars in 6th house. Court battles, earthy capricorn. I did not say that ketu is law, i said that ketu, sun and mars dominating the arthatrikona could indicate his profession as law,. regards partha om tat sat vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > |Hare Rama Krishna| > Dear Partha, > Jupiter is law, but Ketu is the protector of thieves. > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > - > V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:31 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-ragini > > > Om Namah Shivaya > > Dear Ragini > > Very sorry to see such case. Whenever such cases arrive, i feel that > there must be some curse opearting that is so very strong. > > I have just consulted a medical student, as to the differences > between twins. > > He says that there are few issues here > > a) The mother intake that goes to the kids inside gets divided. > b) Her internal structure may be such that the resources that she is > feeding herself may not reach one kid and go to another kid. > c) When the foetus gets divided, the "intelligence gets divided". He > further adds that this may mean that a twin might be exceedingly > brilliant at studies, whereas the other kid may be good at social > interactions. > d) So in this case it is apparent that the other twin has host of > degrees(not really normal). People these days dont have patience to > get so many degrees. > e) THe gap of one hour is not very normal, usually it is 10 to 20 > minutes. > > Now coming to the astrological part > even though i am not an expert in medical astrology, one thing is > clear that the time of birth recorded for both the twins is not > correct. > > The first twin should be born in gemini ascendant, so we need to take > the Tob back a few minutes. > His AL would fall in watery pisces with saturn and aspected by mars > from Virgo suggesting matibhramana yoga. > > The second twin's case , since he is a lawyer, his TOB should be 2 > minutes back, so that the dasamsa lagna would be LEO. and then Ketu , > mars and sun would be dominating the profession. which is law. > > Remedies:- The parents should try Mrityunaya mantra, and give the > teerth to the first kid. Give him a big emerald and wear it in little > finger. > > the presence of venus in 4th house in d-30 suggests that they should > do the same. > > More later as i need to study further. > regards > partha > om tat sat > > > > > vedic astrology, as saf <astro_learner> > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Members/Gurus, > > I recently came across two charts who look alike.I mean they are of > twins but there is whole lot of difference in their lives.The elder > one is retarded mentally and the younger one is brilliant .He is > brilliant in his studies.He has done Law , MBA , Engneering and is > now practicing law. > > I looked through the D-charts of both the brothers but failed to > site the affliction in the elder ones chart.Which D chart shows > affliction?His parents are getting old and are in a bad shape because > the tension of their son doesnt let them in peace.The younger one is > doing fine for the family but they are worried about the elder > one...what will happen to him after their death?Whether he will > regain consciousness if ever?I am really worried for them.Could the > respected Gurus shed light whether the elder one has a chance for him > in this life in repsect of his mental balance?He was born retarded > and hasnt developed this.The parents dont wish that their son should > live long since no one is going to take care of him after their death > or atleast they are worried so. > > I am just amazed inspite of exalted jupiter in the lagna with moon > in the seventh forming gaajkesari yoga how can the affliction be so > serious after moon is a karka for mind and jupiter and venus > aspecting it form good yogas with also chandra adhi yoga besides > other yogas in the chart. > > I pray to all the learned Gurus to help the mother of the native > who is in distress.All the suggestions for the restoration of mental > balance of the individual would be welcome and also if he cant get > cured what is the age of the native since the mother is really > worried for her son.Can the age be different for two brothers when > the rasi chart is going to be the same?atleast the age group I think > should be similar. > > Elder son- > > june 24 1967 > > 7:15 AM > > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Younger son - > > june 24 1967 > > 8:35 am > > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Regards, > > Ragini > > > > > > > > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > Terms of Service. 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Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 What can we expect of Law to do to the 'protector of thieves'?/thieves protector- spiritual planet/illusion, degeneration, lack of mother-nature instincts, deprivation of real-life desires../ I have one Sc Lagna with Jupiter and Ketu in first- I'd say, she doesn't tell truth /most of the time/ but doesn't reap expected consenquencies. Would you please comment on this? Also, she is in Rahu MD, would it bring both 'polarities' into the picture, what 'dynamic' would be expected, etc..I would appreciate your response. Thanks, Anna vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Partha,> Jupiter is law, but Ketu is the protector of thieves.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message ----- > V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:31 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-ragini> > > Om Namah Shivaya> > Dear Ragini> > Very sorry to see such case. Whenever such cases arrive, i feel that > there must be some curse opearting that is so very strong.> > I have just consulted a medical student, as to the differences > between twins.> > He says that there are few issues here> > a) The mother intake that goes to the kids inside gets divided.> b) Her internal structure may be such that the resources that she is > feeding herself may not reach one kid and go to another kid.> c) When the foetus gets divided, the "intelligence gets divided". He > further adds that this may mean that a twin might be exceedingly > brilliant at studies, whereas the other kid may be good at social > interactions.> d) So in this case it is apparent that the other twin has host of > degrees(not really normal). People these days dont have patience to > get so many degrees.> e) THe gap of one hour is not very normal, usually it is 10 to 20 > minutes.> > Now coming to the astrological part> even though i am not an expert in medical astrology, one thing is > clear that the time of birth recorded for both the twins is not > correct.> > The first twin should be born in gemini ascendant, so we need to take > the Tob back a few minutes.> His AL would fall in watery pisces with saturn and aspected by mars > from Virgo suggesting matibhramana yoga.> > The second twin's case , since he is a lawyer, his TOB should be 2 > minutes back, so that the dasamsa lagna would be LEO. and then Ketu , > mars and sun would be dominating the profession. which is law.> > Remedies:- The parents should try Mrityunaya mantra, and give the > teerth to the first kid. Give him a big emerald and wear it in little > finger.> > the presence of venus in 4th house in d-30 suggests that they should > do the same.> > More later as i need to study further.> regards> partha> om tat sat> > > > > vedic astrology, as saf <astro_learner> > wrote:> > > > > > Respected Members/Gurus,> > I recently came across two charts who look alike.I mean they are of > twins but there is whole lot of difference in their lives.The elder > one is retarded mentally and the younger one is brilliant .He is > brilliant in his studies.He has done Law , MBA , Engneering and is > now practicing law.> > I looked through the D-charts of both the brothers but failed to > site the affliction in the elder ones chart.Which D chart shows > affliction?His parents are getting old and are in a bad shape because > the tension of their son doesnt let them in peace.The younger one is > doing fine for the family but they are worried about the elder > one...what will happen to him after their death?Whether he will > regain consciousness if ever?I am really worried for them.Could the > respected Gurus shed light whether the elder one has a chance for him > in this life in repsect of his mental balance?He was born retarded > and hasnt developed this.The parents dont wish that their son should > live long since no one is going to take care of him after their death > or atleast they are worried so.> > I am just amazed inspite of exalted jupiter in the lagna with moon > in the seventh forming gaajkesari yoga how can the affliction be so > serious after moon is a karka for mind and jupiter and venus > aspecting it form good yogas with also chandra adhi yoga besides > other yogas in the chart.> > I pray to all the learned Gurus to help the mother of the native > who is in distress.All the suggestions for the restoration of mental > balance of the individual would be welcome and also if he cant get > cured what is the age of the native since the mother is really > worried for her son.Can the age be different for two brothers when > the rasi chart is going to be the same?atleast the age group I think > should be similar.> > Elder son-> > june 24 1967> > 7:15 AM> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Younger son -> > june 24 1967> > 8:35 am> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Regards,> > Ragini> > > > > > > > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!> > > Sponsor > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ........ 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Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Anna, I'm not sure i understand the question. The natives inner nature is seen from the lagna, whilst their tendency towards telling the truth is especially seen from 2nd house and if unoccupied; its lord. Try this; if the 2nd lord is in a movable navamsa, the native often breaks their promises.. opposite with fixed navamsa. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - j.b vedic astrology Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:27 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-visti Dear Visti, What can we expect of Law to do to the 'protector of thieves'?/thieves protector- spiritual planet/illusion, degeneration, lack of mother-nature instincts, deprivation of real-life desires../ I have one Sc Lagna with Jupiter and Ketu in first- I'd say, she doesn't tell truth /most of the time/ but doesn't reap expected consenquencies. Would you please comment on this? Also, she is in Rahu MD, would it bring both 'polarities' into the picture, what 'dynamic' would be expected, etc..I would appreciate your response. Thanks, Anna vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Partha,> Jupiter is law, but Ketu is the protector of thieves.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message ----- > V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:31 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-ragini> > > Om Namah Shivaya> > Dear Ragini> > Very sorry to see such case. Whenever such cases arrive, i feel that > there must be some curse opearting that is so very strong.> > I have just consulted a medical student, as to the differences > between twins.> > He says that there are few issues here> > a) The mother intake that goes to the kids inside gets divided.> b) Her internal structure may be such that the resources that she is > feeding herself may not reach one kid and go to another kid.> c) When the foetus gets divided, the "intelligence gets divided". He > further adds that this may mean that a twin might be exceedingly > brilliant at studies, whereas the other kid may be good at social > interactions.> d) So in this case it is apparent that the other twin has host of > degrees(not really normal). People these days dont have patience to > get so many degrees.> e) THe gap of one hour is not very normal, usually it is 10 to 20 > minutes.> > Now coming to the astrological part> even though i am not an expert in medical astrology, one thing is > clear that the time of birth recorded for both the twins is not > correct.> > The first twin should be born in gemini ascendant, so we need to take > the Tob back a few minutes.> His AL would fall in watery pisces with saturn and aspected by mars > from Virgo suggesting matibhramana yoga.> > The second twin's case , since he is a lawyer, his TOB should be 2 > minutes back, so that the dasamsa lagna would be LEO. and then Ketu , > mars and sun would be dominating the profession. which is law.> > Remedies:- The parents should try Mrityunaya mantra, and give the > teerth to the first kid. Give him a big emerald and wear it in little > finger.> > the presence of venus in 4th house in d-30 suggests that they should > do the same.> > More later as i need to study further.> regards> partha> om tat sat> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, as saf <astro_learner> > wrote:> > > > > > Respected Members/Gurus,> > I recently came across two charts who look alike.I mean they are of > twins but there is whole lot of difference in their lives.The elder > one is retarded mentally and the younger one is brilliant ..He is > brilliant in his studies.He has done Law , MBA , Engneering and is > now practicing law.> > I looked through the D-charts of both the brothers but failed to > site the affliction in the elder ones chart.Which D chart shows > affliction?His parents are getting old and are in a bad shape because > the tension of their son doesnt let them in peace.The younger one is > doing fine for the family but they are worried about the elder > one...what will happen to him after their death?Whether he will > regain consciousness if ever?I am really worried for them.Could the > respected Gurus shed light whether the elder one has a chance for him > in this life in repsect of his mental balance?He was born retarded > and hasnt developed this.The parents dont wish that their son should > live long since no one is going to take care of him after their death > or atleast they are worried so.> > I am just amazed inspite of exalted jupiter in the lagna with moon > in the seventh forming gaajkesari yoga how can the affliction be so > serious after moon is a karka for mind and jupiter and venus > aspecting it form good yogas with also chandra adhi yoga besides > other yogas in the chart.> > I pray to all the learned Gurus to help the mother of the native > who is in distress.All the suggestions for the restoration of mental > balance of the individual would be welcome and also if he cant get > cured what is the age of the native since the mother is really > worried for her son.Can the age be different for two brothers when > the rasi chart is going to be the same?atleast the age group I think > should be similar.> > Elder son-> > june 24 1967> > 7:15 AM> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Younger son -> > june 24 1967> > 8:35 am> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Regards,> > Ragini> > > > > > > > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!> > > Sponsor > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > .> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted June 22, 2003 Report Share Posted June 22, 2003 Dear Visti/Anna, Does the native have sambandha between Saturn and Moon in Natal chart? Chanderashekhar. ---- |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Anna, I'm not sure i understand the question. The natives inner nature is seen from the lagna, whilst their tendency towards telling the truth is especially seen from 2nd house and if unoccupied; its lord. Try this; if the 2nd lord is in a movable navamsa, the native often breaks their promises.. opposite with fixed navamsa. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - j.b vedic astrology Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:27 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-visti Dear Visti, What can we expect of Law to do to the 'protector of thieves'?/thieves protector- spiritual planet/illusion, degeneration, lack of mother-nature instincts, deprivation of real-life desires../ I have one Sc Lagna with Jupiter and Ketu in first- I'd say, she doesn't tell truth /most of the time/ but doesn't reap expected consenquencies. Would you please comment on this? Also, she is in Rahu MD, would it bring both 'polarities' into the picture, what 'dynamic' would be expected, etc..I would appreciate your response. Thanks, Anna vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Partha,> Jupiter is law, but Ketu is the protector of thieves.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message ----- > V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:31 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-ragini> > > Om Namah Shivaya> > Dear Ragini> > Very sorry to see such case. Whenever such cases arrive, i feel that > there must be some curse opearting that is so very strong.> > I have just consulted a medical student, as to the differences > between twins.> > He says that there are few issues here> > a) The mother intake that goes to the kids inside gets divided.> b) Her internal structure may be such that the resources that she is > feeding herself may not reach one kid and go to another kid.> c) When the foetus gets divided, the "intelligence gets divided". He > further adds that this may mean that a twin might be exceedingly > brilliant at studies, whereas the other kid may be good at social > interactions.> d) So in this case it is apparent that the other twin has host of > degrees(not really normal). People these days dont have patience to > get so many degrees.> e) THe gap of one hour is not very normal, usually it is 10 to 20 > minutes.> > Now coming to the astrological part> even though i am not an expert in medical astrology, one thing is > clear that the time of birth recorded for both the twins is not > correct.> > The first twin should be born in gemini ascendant, so we need to take > the Tob back a few minutes.> His AL would fall in watery pisces with saturn and aspected by mars > from Virgo suggesting matibhramana yoga.> > The second twin's case , since he is a lawyer, his TOB should be 2 > minutes back, so that the dasamsa lagna would be LEO. and then Ketu , > mars and sun would be dominating the profession. which is law.> > Remedies:- The parents should try Mrityunaya mantra, and give the > teerth to the first kid. Give him a big emerald and wear it in little > finger.> > the presence of venus in 4th house in d-30 suggests that they should > do the same.> > More later as i need to study further.> regards> partha> om tat sat> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, as saf <astro_learner> > wrote:> > > > > > Respected Members/Gurus,> > I recently came across two charts who look alike.I mean they are of > twins but there is whole lot of difference in their lives.The elder > one is retarded mentally and the younger one is brilliant ..He is > brilliant in his studies.He has done Law , MBA , Engneering and is > now practicing law.> > I looked through the D-charts of both the brothers but failed to > site the affliction in the elder ones chart.Which D chart shows > affliction?His parents are getting old and are in a bad shape because > the tension of their son doesnt let them in peace.The younger one is > doing fine for the family but they are worried about the elder > one...what will happen to him after their death?Whether he will > regain consciousness if ever?I am really worried for them.Could the > respected Gurus shed light whether the elder one has a chance for him > in this life in repsect of his mental balance?He was born retarded > and hasnt developed this.The parents dont wish that their son should > live long since no one is going to take care of him after their death > or atleast they are worried so.> > I am just amazed inspite of exalted jupiter in the lagna with moon > in the seventh forming gaajkesari yoga how can the affliction be so > serious after moon is a karka for mind and jupiter and venus > aspecting it form good yogas with also chandra adhi yoga besides > other yogas in the chart.> > I pray to all the learned Gurus to help the mother of the native > who is in distress.All the suggestions for the restoration of mental > balance of the individual would be welcome and also if he cant get > cured what is the age of the native since the mother is really > worried for her son.Can the age be different for two brothers when > the rasi chart is going to be the same?atleast the age group I think > should be similar.> > Elder son-> > june 24 1967> > 7:15 AM> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Younger son -> > june 24 1967> > 8:35 am> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Regards,> > Ragini> > > > > > > > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!> > > Sponsor > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > .> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted June 22, 2003 Report Share Posted June 22, 2003 this client's Sun and Mars are in third, oposite Moon and Saturn in 9th. Please explain sambandha btw Moon and Saturn, and how that manifest. Thanks. Also my question re this client wasn't whether she lies or not, she Does, a lot, but how Jupiter/Ketu in 1st fit there /btw- her second is fine, with unaflicted Venus in it- Lord of second, Jupiter-SC rising, is in 1st with Ketu, that I am suspicious maybe a 'kulprit' for here untustworthiness. AnnaChandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 ; Dear Visti/Anna, Does the native have sambandha between Saturn and Moon in Natal chart? Chanderashekhar. ---- |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Anna, I'm not sure i understand the question. The natives inner nature is seen from the lagna, whilst their tendency towards telling the truth is especially seen from 2nd house and if unoccupied; its lord. Try this; if the 2nd lord is in a movable navamsa, the native often breaks their promises.. opposite with fixed navamsa. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - j.b vedic astrology Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:27 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-visti Dear Visti, What can we expect of Law to do to the 'protector of thieves'?/thieves protector- spiritual planet/illusion, degeneration, lack of mother-nature instincts, deprivation of real-life desires../ I have one Sc Lagna with Jupiter and Ketu in first- I'd say, she doesn't tell truth /most of the time/ but doesn't reap expected consenquencies. Would you please comment on this? Also, she is in Rahu MD, would it bring both 'polarities' into the picture, what 'dynamic' would be expected, etc..I would appreciate your response. Thanks, Anna vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Partha,> Jupiter is law, but Ketu is the protector of thieves.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message ----- > V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:31 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-ragini> > > Om Namah Shivaya> > Dear Ragini> > Very sorry to see such case. Whenever such cases arrive, i feel that > there must be some curse opearting that is so very strong.> > I have just consulted a medical student, as to the differences > between twins.> > He says that there are few issues here> > a) The mother intake that goes to the kids inside gets divided.> b) Her internal structure may be such that the resources that she is > feeding herself may not reach one kid and go to another kid.> c) When the foetus gets divided, the "intelligence gets divided". He > further adds that this may mean that a twin might be exceedingly > brilliant at studies, whereas the other kid may be good at social > interactions.> d) So in this case it is apparent that the other twin has host of > degrees(not really normal). People these days dont have patience to > get so many degrees.> e) THe gap of one hour is not very normal, usually it is 10 to 20 > minutes.> > Now coming to the astrological part> even though i am not an expert in medical astrology, one thing is > clear that the time of birth recorded for both the twins is not > correct.> > The first twin should be born in gemini ascendant, so we need to take > the Tob back a few minutes.> His AL would fall in watery pisces with saturn and aspected by mars > from Virgo suggesting matibhramana yoga.> > The second twin's case , since he is a lawyer, his TOB should be 2 > minutes back, so that the dasamsa lagna would be LEO. and then Ketu , > mars and sun would be dominating the profession. which is law.> > Remedies:- The parents should try Mrityunaya mantra, and give the > teerth to the first kid. Give him a big emerald and wear it in little > finger.> > the presence of venus in 4th house in d-30 suggests that they should > do the same.> > More later as i need to study further.> regards> partha> om tat sat> > > > > vedic astrology, as saf <astro_learner> > wrote:> > > > > > Respected Members/Gurus,> > I recently came across two charts who look alike.I mean they are of > twins but there is whole lot of difference in their lives.The elder > one is retarded mentally and the younger one is brilliant .He is > brilliant in his studies.He has done Law , MBA , Engneering and is > now practicing law.> > I looked through the D-charts of both the brothers but failed to > site the affliction in the elder ones chart.Which D chart shows > affliction?His parents are getting old and are in a bad shape because > the tension of their son doesnt let them in peace.The younger one is > doing fine for the family but they are worried about the elder > one...what will happen to him after their death?Whether he will > regain consciousness if ever?I am really worried for them.Could the > respected Gurus shed light whether the elder one has a chance for him > in this life in repsect of his mental balance?He was born retarded > and hasnt developed this.The parents dont wish that their son should > live long since no one is going to take care of him after their death > or atleast they are worried so.> > I am just amazed inspite of exalted jupiter in the lagna with moon > in the seventh forming gaajkesari yoga how can the affliction be so > serious after moon is a karka for mind and jupiter and venus > aspecting it form good yogas with also chandra adhi yoga besides > other yogas in the chart.> > I pray to all the learned Gurus to help the mother of the native > who is in distress.All the suggestions for the restoration of mental > balance of the individual would be welcome and also if he cant get > cured what is the age of the native since the mother is really > worried for her son.Can the age be different for two brothers when > the rasi chart is going to be the same?atleast the age group I think > should be similar.> > Elder son-> > june 24 1967> > 7:15 AM> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Younger son -> > june 24 1967> > 8:35 am> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Regards,> > Ragini> > > > > > > > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!> > > Sponsor > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ........ 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Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 Dear Anna, Sun Sat aspect in 3/9 axis would suggest lack of Pitru sukha. More so as here Sun is lord of the 10th placed in 3rd. Jataka may have hot and cold relations with father. Her concept of religion would be somewhat different from normal and changes are also indicated as Sat and Moon conjoin.The conjunction of 4th and 9th lords aspected by 5th lord would protect from excesses in this regard. Problems of health in the region of waist are indicated as Saturn and mars aspect 6th house/ some bleeding could also be involved. Jupiter with Ketu is not bad in Scorpio, one being in friend's Rasi and lord of 5th posited in Lagna and other being in exaltation. May be given to irrational fits of anger. She may also have difficulties wrt progeny. Over all the lady may be a very capable lady profession wise. Tendency to spend on things of vanity would also be indicated as lord of 12th is in 2nd house. Rahu Mahadasha could give relocation and in last degrees of Taurus in transit could elevate her. She should also guard wrt to her relations with opposite sex, specially elderly gents during this time of transit. At least this what I think on the basis of available data(Navamsha lacking). Let me know , how far I am off the mark. Chandrashekhar. ---- Dear Chanderashekar, this client's Sun and Mars are in third, oposite Moon and Saturn in 9th. Please explain sambandha btw Moon and Saturn, and how that manifest. Thanks. Also my question re this client wasn't whether she lies or not, she Does, a lot, but how Jupiter/Ketu in 1st fit there /btw- her second is fine, with unaflicted Venus in it- Lord of second, Jupiter-SC rising, is in 1st with Ketu, that I am suspicious maybe a 'kulprit' for here untustworthiness. AnnaChandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Visti/Anna, Does the native have sambandha between Saturn and Moon in Natal chart? Chanderashekhar. ---- |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Anna, I'm not sure i understand the question. The natives inner nature is seen from the lagna, whilst their tendency towards telling the truth is especially seen from 2nd house and if unoccupied; its lord. Try this; if the 2nd lord is in a movable navamsa, the native often breaks their promises.. opposite with fixed navamsa. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - j.b vedic astrology Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:27 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-visti Dear Visti, What can we expect of Law to do to the 'protector of thieves'?/thieves protector- spiritual planet/illusion, degeneration, lack of mother-nature instincts, deprivation of real-life desires../ I have one Sc Lagna with Jupiter and Ketu in first- I'd say, she doesn't tell truth /most of the time/ but doesn't reap expected consenquencies. Would you please comment on this? Also, she is in Rahu MD, would it bring both 'polarities' into the picture, what 'dynamic' would be expected, etc..I would appreciate your response. Thanks, Anna vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Partha,> Jupiter is law, but Ketu is the protector of thieves.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message ----- > V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:31 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-ragini> > > Om Namah Shivaya> > Dear Ragini> > Very sorry to see such case. Whenever such cases arrive, i feel that > there must be some curse opearting that is so very strong.> > I have just consulted a medical student, as to the differences > between twins.> > He says that there are few issues here> > a) The mother intake that goes to the kids inside gets divided.> b) Her internal structure may be such that the resources that she is > feeding herself may not reach one kid and go to another kid.> c) When the foetus gets divided, the "intelligence gets divided". He > further adds that this may mean that a twin might be exceedingly > brilliant at studies, whereas the other kid may be good at social > interactions.> d) So in this case it is apparent that the other twin has host of > degrees(not really normal). People these days dont have patience to > get so many degrees.> e) THe gap of one hour is not very normal, usually it is 10 to 20 > minutes.> > Now coming to the astrological part> even though i am not an expert in medical astrology, one thing is > clear that the time of birth recorded for both the twins is not > correct.> > The first twin should be born in gemini ascendant, so we need to take > the Tob back a few minutes.> His AL would fall in watery pisces with saturn and aspected by mars > from Virgo suggesting matibhramana yoga.> > The second twin's case , since he is a lawyer, his TOB should be 2 > minutes back, so that the dasamsa lagna would be LEO. and then Ketu , > mars and sun would be dominating the profession. which is law.> > Remedies:- The parents should try Mrityunaya mantra, and give the > teerth to the first kid. Give him a big emerald and wear it in little > finger.> > the presence of venus in 4th house in d-30 suggests that they should > do the same.> > More later as i need to study further.> regards> partha> om tat sat> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, as saf <astro_learner> > wrote:> > > > > > Respected Members/Gurus,> > I recently came across two charts who look alike.I mean they are of > twins but there is whole lot of difference in their lives.The elder > one is retarded mentally and the younger one is brilliant ..He is > brilliant in his studies.He has done Law , MBA , Engneering and is > now practicing law.> > I looked through the D-charts of both the brothers but failed to > site the affliction in the elder ones chart.Which D chart shows > affliction?His parents are getting old and are in a bad shape because > the tension of their son doesnt let them in peace.The younger one is > doing fine for the family but they are worried about the elder > one...what will happen to him after their death?Whether he will > regain consciousness if ever?I am really worried for them.Could the > respected Gurus shed light whether the elder one has a chance for him > in this life in repsect of his mental balance?He was born retarded > and hasnt developed this.The parents dont wish that their son should > live long since no one is going to take care of him after their death > or atleast they are worried so.> > I am just amazed inspite of exalted jupiter in the lagna with moon > in the seventh forming gaajkesari yoga how can the affliction be so > serious after moon is a karka for mind and jupiter and venus > aspecting it form good yogas with also chandra adhi yoga besides > other yogas in the chart.> > I pray to all the learned Gurus to help the mother of the native > who is in distress.All the suggestions for the restoration of mental > balance of the individual would be welcome and also if he cant get > cured what is the age of the native since the mother is really > worried for her son.Can the age be different for two brothers when > the rasi chart is going to be the same?atleast the age group I think > should be similar.> > Elder son-> > june 24 1967> > 7:15 AM> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Younger son -> > june 24 1967> > 8:35 am> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Regards,> > Ragini> > > > > > > > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!> > > Sponsor > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > .> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 Jaya JagannathDear Visti, In Sri Rama's chart 2nd lord Sun is in Movable Rasi and Navamsa and hence your theory of breaking promise doesnot hold good. Btw Promises are seen from 10th house... What you say on that? Best Wishes Sarajit - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Sunday, June 22, 2003 6:12 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-visti |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Anna, I'm not sure i understand the question. The natives inner nature is seen from the lagna, whilst their tendency towards telling the truth is especially seen from 2nd house and if unoccupied; its lord. Try this; if the 2nd lord is in a movable navamsa, the native often breaks their promises.. opposite with fixed navamsa. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - j.b vedic astrology Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:27 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-visti Dear Visti, What can we expect of Law to do to the 'protector of thieves'?/thieves protector- spiritual planet/illusion, degeneration, lack of mother-nature instincts, deprivation of real-life desires../ I have one Sc Lagna with Jupiter and Ketu in first- I'd say, she doesn't tell truth /most of the time/ but doesn't reap expected consenquencies. Would you please comment on this? Also, she is in Rahu MD, would it bring both 'polarities' into the picture, what 'dynamic' would be expected, etc..I would appreciate your response. Thanks, Anna vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Partha,> Jupiter is law, but Ketu is the protector of thieves.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message ----- > V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:31 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-ragini> > > Om Namah Shivaya> > Dear Ragini> > Very sorry to see such case. Whenever such cases arrive, i feel that > there must be some curse opearting that is so very strong.> > I have just consulted a medical student, as to the differences > between twins.> > He says that there are few issues here> > a) The mother intake that goes to the kids inside gets divided.> b) Her internal structure may be such that the resources that she is > feeding herself may not reach one kid and go to another kid.> c) When the foetus gets divided, the "intelligence gets divided". He > further adds that this may mean that a twin might be exceedingly > brilliant at studies, whereas the other kid may be good at social > interactions.> d) So in this case it is apparent that the other twin has host of > degrees(not really normal). People these days dont have patience to > get so many degrees.> e) THe gap of one hour is not very normal, usually it is 10 to 20 > minutes.> > Now coming to the astrological part> even though i am not an expert in medical astrology, one thing is > clear that the time of birth recorded for both the twins is not > correct.> > The first twin should be born in gemini ascendant, so we need to take > the Tob back a few minutes.> His AL would fall in watery pisces with saturn and aspected by mars > from Virgo suggesting matibhramana yoga.> > The second twin's case , since he is a lawyer, his TOB should be 2 > minutes back, so that the dasamsa lagna would be LEO. and then Ketu , > mars and sun would be dominating the profession. which is law.> > Remedies:- The parents should try Mrityunaya mantra, and give the > teerth to the first kid. Give him a big emerald and wear it in little > finger.> > the presence of venus in 4th house in d-30 suggests that they should > do the same.> > More later as i need to study further.> regards> partha> om tat sat> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, as saf <astro_learner> > wrote:> > > > > > Respected Members/Gurus,> > I recently came across two charts who look alike.I mean they are of > twins but there is whole lot of difference in their lives.The elder > one is retarded mentally and the younger one is brilliant ..He is > brilliant in his studies.He has done Law , MBA , Engneering and is > now practicing law.> > I looked through the D-charts of both the brothers but failed to > site the affliction in the elder ones chart.Which D chart shows > affliction?His parents are getting old and are in a bad shape because > the tension of their son doesnt let them in peace.The younger one is > doing fine for the family but they are worried about the elder > one...what will happen to him after their death?Whether he will > regain consciousness if ever?I am really worried for them.Could the > respected Gurus shed light whether the elder one has a chance for him > in this life in repsect of his mental balance?He was born retarded > and hasnt developed this.The parents dont wish that their son should > live long since no one is going to take care of him after their death > or atleast they are worried so.> > I am just amazed inspite of exalted jupiter in the lagna with moon > in the seventh forming gaajkesari yoga how can the affliction be so > serious after moon is a karka for mind and jupiter and venus > aspecting it form good yogas with also chandra adhi yoga besides > other yogas in the chart.> > I pray to all the learned Gurus to help the mother of the native > who is in distress.All the suggestions for the restoration of mental > balance of the individual would be welcome and also if he cant get > cured what is the age of the native since the mother is really > worried for her son.Can the age be different for two brothers when > the rasi chart is going to be the same?atleast the age group I think > should be similar.> > Elder son-> > june 24 1967> > 7:15 AM> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Younger son -> > june 24 1967> > 8:35 am> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Regards,> > Ragini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2003 Report Share Posted June 25, 2003 |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Sarajit, The dictum comes from Vyankatesh Sharma, not me. An Exalted and Vargottama 2nd lord is highly condussive towards good, logical speech as well as knowledge about the vedas. The native will speak as if God himself had ordained it. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Sarajit Poddar vedic astrology Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:37 AM Fw: [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-visti Jaya JagannathDear Visti, In Sri Rama's chart 2nd lord Sun is in Movable Rasi and Navamsa and hence your theory of breaking promise doesnot hold good. Btw Promises are seen from 10th house... What you say on that? Best Wishes Sarajit - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Sunday, June 22, 2003 6:12 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-visti |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Anna, I'm not sure i understand the question. The natives inner nature is seen from the lagna, whilst their tendency towards telling the truth is especially seen from 2nd house and if unoccupied; its lord. Try this; if the 2nd lord is in a movable navamsa, the native often breaks their promises.. opposite with fixed navamsa. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - j.b vedic astrology Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:27 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-visti Dear Visti, What can we expect of Law to do to the 'protector of thieves'?/thieves protector- spiritual planet/illusion, degeneration, lack of mother-nature instincts, deprivation of real-life desires../ I have one Sc Lagna with Jupiter and Ketu in first- I'd say, she doesn't tell truth /most of the time/ but doesn't reap expected consenquencies. Would you please comment on this? Also, she is in Rahu MD, would it bring both 'polarities' into the picture, what 'dynamic' would be expected, etc..I would appreciate your response. Thanks, Anna vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Partha,> Jupiter is law, but Ketu is the protector of thieves.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message ----- > V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:31 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-ragini> > > Om Namah Shivaya> > Dear Ragini> > Very sorry to see such case. Whenever such cases arrive, i feel that > there must be some curse opearting that is so very strong.> > I have just consulted a medical student, as to the differences > between twins.> > He says that there are few issues here> > a) The mother intake that goes to the kids inside gets divided.> b) Her internal structure may be such that the resources that she is > feeding herself may not reach one kid and go to another kid.> c) When the foetus gets divided, the "intelligence gets divided". He > further adds that this may mean that a twin might be exceedingly > brilliant at studies, whereas the other kid may be good at social > interactions.> d) So in this case it is apparent that the other twin has host of > degrees(not really normal). People these days dont have patience to > get so many degrees.> e) THe gap of one hour is not very normal, usually it is 10 to 20 > minutes.> > Now coming to the astrological part> even though i am not an expert in medical astrology, one thing is > clear that the time of birth recorded for both the twins is not > correct.> > The first twin should be born in gemini ascendant, so we need to take > the Tob back a few minutes.> His AL would fall in watery pisces with saturn and aspected by mars > from Virgo suggesting matibhramana yoga.> > The second twin's case , since he is a lawyer, his TOB should be 2 > minutes back, so that the dasamsa lagna would be LEO. and then Ketu , > mars and sun would be dominating the profession. which is law.> > Remedies:- The parents should try Mrityunaya mantra, and give the > teerth to the first kid. Give him a big emerald and wear it in little > finger.> > the presence of venus in 4th house in d-30 suggests that they should > do the same.> > More later as i need to study further.> regards> partha> om tat sat> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, as saf <astro_learner> > wrote:> > > > > > Respected Members/Gurus,> > I recently came across two charts who look alike.I mean they are of > twins but there is whole lot of difference in their lives.The elder > one is retarded mentally and the younger one is brilliant ..He is > brilliant in his studies.He has done Law , MBA , Engneering and is > now practicing law.> > I looked through the D-charts of both the brothers but failed to > site the affliction in the elder ones chart.Which D chart shows > affliction?His parents are getting old and are in a bad shape because > the tension of their son doesnt let them in peace.The younger one is > doing fine for the family but they are worried about the elder > one...what will happen to him after their death?Whether he will > regain consciousness if ever?I am really worried for them.Could the > respected Gurus shed light whether the elder one has a chance for him > in this life in repsect of his mental balance?He was born retarded > and hasnt developed this.The parents dont wish that their son should > live long since no one is going to take care of him after their death > or atleast they are worried so.> > I am just amazed inspite of exalted jupiter in the lagna with moon > in the seventh forming gaajkesari yoga how can the affliction be so > serious after moon is a karka for mind and jupiter and venus > aspecting it form good yogas with also chandra adhi yoga besides > other yogas in the chart.> > I pray to all the learned Gurus to help the mother of the native > who is in distress.All the suggestions for the restoration of mental > balance of the individual would be welcome and also if he cant get > cured what is the age of the native since the mother is really > worried for her son.Can the age be different for two brothers when > the rasi chart is going to be the same?atleast the age group I think > should be similar.> > Elder son-> > june 24 1967> > 7:15 AM> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Younger son -> > june 24 1967> > 8:35 am> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Regards,> > RaginiArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ 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Guest guest Posted June 25, 2003 Report Share Posted June 25, 2003 Jaya Jagannath Dear Visti, Even if it were your principle, I wouldnot mind accepting it, if it fulfilled the test conditions in the time tested horoscopes. Why I asked the question I did, was to find out if there are other qualifying factors. As of what I have been taught was, the nature of one speech can be known from the planets associating and aspecting the 2nd lord. The most truthful among planets is the DevaGuru Brhaspati and if Jupiter associates or aspects the 2nd lord, without any -ve factor, the person shall always be truthful. Saturn is the greatest liar, Moon- Sweet and soothing, Rahu- Shocking and deceiving, Mars- Aggressive etc. However holding promises are different things from the nature of the talk or truthfulness. Promises are governed by the 10th house and the lord should be strongly placed for the person to hold his promises. Like in Sri Rama's case, exalted Mars and in Sanjayji's case Jupiter causing hamsa mahapurusha yoga. Dare not think that I question your knowledge, when I invite your views and comments... lol... otherwise I have to explicitly mention this with all my mails. Bottomline is that I trust your erudition. Best Wishes Sarajit - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:14 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-visti |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Sarajit, The dictum comes from Vyankatesh Sharma, not me. An Exalted and Vargottama 2nd lord is highly condussive towards good, logical speech as well as knowledge about the vedas. The native will speak as if God himself had ordained it. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Sarajit Poddar vedic astrology Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:37 AM Fw: [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-visti Jaya JagannathDear Visti, In Sri Rama's chart 2nd lord Sun is in Movable Rasi and Navamsa and hence your theory of breaking promise doesnot hold good. Btw Promises are seen from 10th house... What you say on that? Best Wishes Sarajit - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Sunday, June 22, 2003 6:12 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-visti |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Anna, I'm not sure i understand the question. The natives inner nature is seen from the lagna, whilst their tendency towards telling the truth is especially seen from 2nd house and if unoccupied; its lord. Try this; if the 2nd lord is in a movable navamsa, the native often breaks their promises.. opposite with fixed navamsa. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - j.b vedic astrology Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:27 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-visti Dear Visti, What can we expect of Law to do to the 'protector of thieves'?/thieves protector- spiritual planet/illusion, degeneration, lack of mother-nature instincts, deprivation of real-life desires../ I have one Sc Lagna with Jupiter and Ketu in first- I'd say, she doesn't tell truth /most of the time/ but doesn't reap expected consenquencies. Would you please comment on this? Also, she is in Rahu MD, would it bring both 'polarities' into the picture, what 'dynamic' would be expected, etc..I would appreciate your response. Thanks, Anna vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Partha,> Jupiter is law, but Ketu is the protector of thieves.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message ----- > V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:31 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-ragini> > > Om Namah Shivaya> > Dear Ragini> > Very sorry to see such case. Whenever such cases arrive, i feel that > there must be some curse opearting that is so very strong.> > I have just consulted a medical student, as to the differences > between twins.> > He says that there are few issues here> > a) The mother intake that goes to the kids inside gets divided.> b) Her internal structure may be such that the resources that she is > feeding herself may not reach one kid and go to another kid.> c) When the foetus gets divided, the "intelligence gets divided". He > further adds that this may mean that a twin might be exceedingly > brilliant at studies, whereas the other kid may be good at social > interactions.> d) So in this case it is apparent that the other twin has host of > degrees(not really normal). People these days dont have patience to > get so many degrees.> e) THe gap of one hour is not very normal, usually it is 10 to 20 > minutes.> > Now coming to the astrological part> even though i am not an expert in medical astrology, one thing is > clear that the time of birth recorded for both the twins is not > correct.> > The first twin should be born in gemini ascendant, so we need to take > the Tob back a few minutes.> His AL would fall in watery pisces with saturn and aspected by mars > from Virgo suggesting matibhramana yoga.> > The second twin's case , since he is a lawyer, his TOB should be 2 > minutes back, so that the dasamsa lagna would be LEO. and then Ketu , > mars and sun would be dominating the profession. which is law.> > Remedies:- The parents should try Mrityunaya mantra, and give the > teerth to the first kid. Give him a big emerald and wear it in little > finger.> > the presence of venus in 4th house in d-30 suggests that they should > do the same.> > More later as i need to study further.> regards> partha> om tat sat> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, as saf <astro_learner> > wrote:> > > > > > Respected Members/Gurus,> > I recently came across two charts who look alike.I mean they are of > twins but there is whole lot of difference in their lives.The elder > one is retarded mentally and the younger one is brilliant ..He is > brilliant in his studies.He has done Law , MBA , Engneering and is > now practicing law.> > I looked through the D-charts of both the brothers but failed to > site the affliction in the elder ones chart.Which D chart shows > affliction?His parents are getting old and are in a bad shape because > the tension of their son doesnt let them in peace.The younger one is > doing fine for the family but they are worried about the elder > one...what will happen to him after their death?Whether he will > regain consciousness if ever?I am really worried for them.Could the > respected Gurus shed light whether the elder one has a chance for him > in this life in repsect of his mental balance?He was born retarded > and hasnt developed this.The parents dont wish that their son should > live long since no one is going to take care of him after their death > or atleast they are worried so.> > I am just amazed inspite of exalted jupiter in the lagna with moon > in the seventh forming gaajkesari yoga how can the affliction be so > serious after moon is a karka for mind and jupiter and venus > aspecting it form good yogas with also chandra adhi yoga besides > other yogas in the chart.> > I pray to all the learned Gurus to help the mother of the native > who is in distress.All the suggestions for the restoration of mental > balance of the individual would be welcome and also if he cant get > cured what is the age of the native since the mother is really > worried for her son.Can the age be different for two brothers when > the rasi chart is going to be the same?atleast the age group I think > should be similar.> > Elder son-> > june 24 1967> > 7:15 AM> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Younger son -> > june 24 1967> > 8:35 am> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Regards,> > RaginiArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ 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Guest guest Posted June 25, 2003 Report Share Posted June 25, 2003 |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Sarajit, Namaste. Comments below. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Sarajit Poddar vedic astrology Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:06 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Twin brothers-visti Jaya Jagannath Dear Visti, Even if it were your principle, I wouldnot mind accepting it, if it fulfilled the test conditions in the time tested horoscopes. Why I asked the question I did, was to find out if there are other qualifying factors. Visti: ok. As of what I have been taught was, the nature of one speech can be known from the planets associating and aspecting the 2nd lord. The most truthful among planets is the DevaGuru Brhaspati and if Jupiter associates or aspects the 2nd lord, without any -ve factor, the person shall always be truthful. Saturn is the greatest liar, Moon- Sweet and soothing, Rahu- Shocking and deceiving, Mars- Aggressive etc. Visti: Nature of speech is different yes. However do clarify - can't planets in the 2nd house also change this? However holding promises are different things from the nature of the talk or truthfulness. Promises are governed by the 10th house and the lord should be strongly placed for the person to hold his promises. Like in Sri Rama's case, exalted Mars and in Sanjayji's case Jupiter causing hamsa mahapurusha yoga. Visti: One thing is keeping the promises one makes, i.e. protecting the words that come out of the mouthe (9th from 2nd - 10th), another is whether what we say wavors like the wind changes - i.e. will we say one thing one day and another thing the next day. This should be the propper definition and promises may not be the right word, just as you said - 10th houses indicates ones promises. Dare not think that I question your knowledge, when I invite your views and comments... lol... otherwise I have to explicitly mention this with all my mails. Bottomline is that I trust your erudition. Visti: Best Wishes Sarajit - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:14 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-visti |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Sarajit, The dictum comes from Vyankatesh Sharma, not me. An Exalted and Vargottama 2nd lord is highly condussive towards good, logical speech as well as knowledge about the vedas. The native will speak as if God himself had ordained it. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Sarajit Poddar vedic astrology Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:37 AM Fw: [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-visti Jaya JagannathDear Visti, In Sri Rama's chart 2nd lord Sun is in Movable Rasi and Navamsa and hence your theory of breaking promise doesnot hold good. Btw Promises are seen from 10th house... What you say on that? Best Wishes Sarajit - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Sunday, June 22, 2003 6:12 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-visti |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Anna, I'm not sure i understand the question. The natives inner nature is seen from the lagna, whilst their tendency towards telling the truth is especially seen from 2nd house and if unoccupied; its lord. Try this; if the 2nd lord is in a movable navamsa, the native often breaks their promises.. opposite with fixed navamsa. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - j.b vedic astrology Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:27 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-visti Dear Visti, What can we expect of Law to do to the 'protector of thieves'?/thieves protector- spiritual planet/illusion, degeneration, lack of mother-nature instincts, deprivation of real-life desires../ I have one Sc Lagna with Jupiter and Ketu in first- I'd say, she doesn't tell truth /most of the time/ but doesn't reap expected consenquencies. Would you please comment on this? Also, she is in Rahu MD, would it bring both 'polarities' into the picture, what 'dynamic' would be expected, etc..I would appreciate your response. Thanks, Anna vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Partha,> Jupiter is law, but Ketu is the protector of thieves.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message ----- > V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:31 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: twin brothers-ragini> > > Om Namah Shivaya> > Dear Ragini> > Very sorry to see such case. Whenever such cases arrive, i feel that > there must be some curse opearting that is so very strong.> > I have just consulted a medical student, as to the differences > between twins.> > He says that there are few issues here> > a) The mother intake that goes to the kids inside gets divided.> b) Her internal structure may be such that the resources that she is > feeding herself may not reach one kid and go to another kid.> c) When the foetus gets divided, the "intelligence gets divided". He > further adds that this may mean that a twin might be exceedingly > brilliant at studies, whereas the other kid may be good at social > interactions.> d) So in this case it is apparent that the other twin has host of > degrees(not really normal). People these days dont have patience to > get so many degrees.> e) THe gap of one hour is not very normal, usually it is 10 to 20 > minutes.> > Now coming to the astrological part> even though i am not an expert in medical astrology, one thing is > clear that the time of birth recorded for both the twins is not > correct.> > The first twin should be born in gemini ascendant, so we need to take > the Tob back a few minutes.> His AL would fall in watery pisces with saturn and aspected by mars > from Virgo suggesting matibhramana yoga.> > The second twin's case , since he is a lawyer, his TOB should be 2 > minutes back, so that the dasamsa lagna would be LEO. and then Ketu , > mars and sun would be dominating the profession. which is law.> > Remedies:- The parents should try Mrityunaya mantra, and give the > teerth to the first kid. Give him a big emerald and wear it in little > finger.> > the presence of venus in 4th house in d-30 suggests that they should > do the same.> > More later as i need to study further.> regards> partha> om tat sat> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, as saf <astro_learner> > wrote:> > > > > > Respected Members/Gurus,> > I recently came across two charts who look alike.I mean they are of > twins but there is whole lot of difference in their lives.The elder > one is retarded mentally and the younger one is brilliant ..He is > brilliant in his studies.He has done Law , MBA , Engneering and is > now practicing law.> > I looked through the D-charts of both the brothers but failed to > site the affliction in the elder ones chart.Which D chart shows > affliction?His parents are getting old and are in a bad shape because > the tension of their son doesnt let them in peace.The younger one is > doing fine for the family but they are worried about the elder > one...what will happen to him after their death?Whether he will > regain consciousness if ever?I am really worried for them.Could the > respected Gurus shed light whether the elder one has a chance for him > in this life in repsect of his mental balance?He was born retarded > and hasnt developed this.The parents dont wish that their son should > live long since no one is going to take care of him after their death > or atleast they are worried so.> > I am just amazed inspite of exalted jupiter in the lagna with moon > in the seventh forming gaajkesari yoga how can the affliction be so > serious after moon is a karka for mind and jupiter and venus > aspecting it form good yogas with also chandra adhi yoga besides > other yogas in the chart.> > I pray to all the learned Gurus to help the mother of the native > who is in distress.All the suggestions for the restoration of mental > balance of the individual would be welcome and also if he cant get > cured what is the age of the native since the mother is really > worried for her son.Can the age be different for two brothers when > the rasi chart is going to be the same?atleast the age group I think > should be similar.> > Elder son-> > june 24 1967> > 7:15 AM> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Younger son -> > june 24 1967> > 8:35 am> > Latitude: 30° 22' N > > Longitude: 75° 53' E > > Regards,> > RaginiArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ 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