pukraj? gem stones-Anna

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Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Anna,

j.b wrote:

Dear Swee,

 

I've received many contradicting suggestion re stone. I am Cn L/Sc

Moon, and am in AK Moon MD- I do wear pearl, but haven't noticed any effect.

Swee: Positive effects maybe be brief during Moon's maha and antardasas:

10 months during Mo/Mo, 1 month during Mars, Rahu, Saturn etc PD's. Must

have been atrying time for you regarding marriage, child and monetary constraints).

Moon is also your Yogada, hence stay on with the Moonstone (Read up on Vedic

Remedies in Astrology-Sanjay Rath who recommends that Moonstone is to be

installed for Moon's debility. I wear a bracelet on my left and watching

it over the years, it is becoming more and more opalescent blue! The downside

is, real Adularia (Moonstone) can be much costlier than Pearl. Sorry for

that.

Upaya: Gift of Pearl to a student studying to be a Priest. 2nd from debilitated

Moon is Badhak with Mercury in Sg. Even better, sponsor a student through

his 10 year Brahmanic studies in the Gurukulam. (Gurus may verify).

 

1/Second stone suggested to me is Yellow Saphire, /or Citrine/-Lord

of 6th and 9th in 9th House/In Saturn nakstra and oposite Saturn in 3rd/

- Jup is on Lagna in AL and UL, and in 4th H in navasma, Sc. Sounds pretty

safe choice. So, now I have 2ct YS and 5ct Citrine, beautiful stones, however,

not only that I don't have impression they work well for me, but I doubt

they are bad for me. Off and on- not sure still. Would you please comment

on this, and suggest the appropriate one.

Swee: Seems okay, as Saturn opposes Jupiter and can cause his debility. Jupiter

is in own, hence I wouldn't consider Amethyst. Saturn and Moon are in conflict.

Moon in Saturn's nakshatra indicates activities of the 7th and 8th (refer

also to Sanjay Rath's tapes "Nakshatras" from the Bava Conference, London

2001; well worth the investment).

The main thing I would to point out here is, if you do not feel an immediate

attractiong towards a gemstone as soon as you lay eyes on it or get good

vibes from it, most likely it is not suitable for you. I have Jupiter in

parivatana with Mercury and I have a faceted 70+ carat Citrine by my headboard.

 

2/Mars is YK in 4th, and I'll be in Mars MD soon, but I learned not

to wear Coral, because Mars is in 8th fromAL/and UL/

Swee: A fierce planet in the 8th from AL is okay. But Mars is not a Yogada

in your chart, even though it maybe your YK. In Jataka Paritaka/Brihat Jataka?,

it states that Mars in the 4th during its period destroys assets etc. (Bang

goes your chances of getting alimony.)

I have Mars in Taurus. To quell Mars' impulsiveness, the activity is in martial

arts and in the sign of Venus, it would be in the artistic form, hence Arica

Tai Chi. (short form Tai Chi represents Mars' impatience, I suppose, but

a more difficult style to achieve as it requires precision in all the movements).

Also helps to strengthen kidneys, the Chi (kundalini) and peace of mind.

Try it, you'll love it. :-)

3/Personally, I like Blue Saph and Diamonds, but they are the worst

stones for me/Venus badakhesh in 6th/ I love Violet, Black, Burgundy, Ametist...etc-

I am surprised that my 'inner-self' doesn't know what's good for me- otherwise

/food, company, choices../ I respect a lot my 'inner' inclinations or repulsions..However,

Here it obviously doesn't work.

 

I am thinking that Ju in Sa Naksh. gives Sa results, as /my favourite

in colours and other things/ Sa in Moon Naks..appears diferently..

Just a hypotesis..

Swee: Hypothesis is correct, though I don't really know the direction you

may be going towards. Rahu maybe in your mooltrikona in 8th from lagna, in

which case, if Ghatika lagna is there, he may as well be mahayogada in your

chart. Chances of inheritance to be got if you are to install the gemstone?

Who knows. Rahu is so opposed to spirituality. So which direction are you

heading utilising colours for both Saturn and Rahu?

Jupiter's gem can help strengthen your solar plexus, the result of which

manifests in the violet colour in the throat chakra.

You might as well forget Jupiter's dasa as Rahu has to come before it, which

is after your Mars main.Though both Saturn and Jupiter can cause a potential

rajayoga, it is not until those periods come in. As for Saturn main, it come

only after Jupiter.

Basic Q seems to be: Why did my sense fail here?

 

Swee: Simple. I have done quite a few charts of people with debilitated Moon.

They tend to over melodramatise their thoughts and for people they like,

it takes them a while to realise that they have made the wrong choice when

it comes to their own judgements because of their pre-conceived notions.

But can psychologically punish them if they've let you down. Or hatred with

such repulsion. (An extremist where this area is concerned). Here comes Saturn's

nakshatra during Moon's period! Saturn can mar Moon's clarity. On your Narayan

dasa, have you managed to work it out? Your Sun has to be in Capricorn bearing

all calcs. Then begin your dasa with Capricorn which should bring you currently

into your Badhakesh period. So it is all about You, career etc and all movable

signs (rasi drishti) Not much fun, there where 6th house matters are concern

wrt to finances, litigations, health concerns etc.I am certain you have been

practising daily meditations with good clean diet?

I would greatly appreciate your comments and suggestions , stone wise

and otherwise..what upayas would be, instead /for mars dosha, above mentioned

afflictions../

Swee: Kuja Dosha nullifies after the age of 26. Though as an after thought

regarding your martian concerns I wonder if you were born during the dark

half of the Moon during Kishna Ekadasi? So Moon becomes a malefic too? Ouch!

Hope my above pre-empting is the correct prognosis. Don't ask for

more as I loathe to spend too long on a chart. Sanjayji says we should be

able to give a quick snap shot within the minute. ......sigh, if only keyboards

were like the piano, how much faster we can type as we speak ;-) .

Thank you very much.

Anna

You're welcome.

Swee

swee (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net

www.brihaspati.net

Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote:

Jaya

Jagannatha

Dear Neeraj

Neeraj Gupta wrote:

Om Namah Shivaya

As the lagna is pisces, and the lagna lord is Jupiter.

So, the stone for jupiter is Yellow Sapphire. Now as

Jupiter is placed in 8th house. I doubt a bit, whether

the stone should be prescribed or not.

In earlier reference taken from this list, I was told that a yogkarak planet, if

debiliated or weakly placed can be recommended (e.g. Mars for leo and hence red

coral can be recommended)

So, I am also curious to know, that as Lagnesh is placed in 8th House (Duthanas)

and also jupiter is lord of 10th house. Can the Yellow Sapphire recommended in

this condition? I request senior members / Gurus to throw light on

this situation.

regards,

Neeraj Gupta

As we know the Lagna lord always protects. If you are recommending a life

gemstone for the Lagan Lord this is fine. But if you are trying to recommend

for a yoga to happen. Arudha Lagna is in Taurus, and is aspected also by rasi

dristhi. Jupiter is also 6th from AL and in enemy's house/sign will face

misfortunes etc. As Venus denotes the Brahmin, it is perhaps better to perform

purifactory rites and give dakshina of white silk and gold. Then feed Brahmanas

after this. Depending on where Mars is placed, my preference would be Red Coral.

Of course this is dependent on what type of yogas it creates in this particular

chart (including all the vargas), hence you will expect good material results

during its antardasa.

BTW, as for the preference to Yellow Sapphire and not Yellow Topaz, check in the

archives for discussions regarding the two. :-) Best wishes,

Swee

swee (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net

www.brihaspati.net

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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It will take sometime till I properly understand, but this post has been really

useful. I am glad that you confirm my life-long beleif, that what attracts me

is good for me /men excluded/ Black and violet, orange and green a bit, I wear

all life-still alive..I never liked yellow stomes, coral either /nor those who

were making presents to me/. Encouraged by your words, I'll experiment with

stones/two days each/ At least would be funny.Yesterday I saw gorgeous smoky

quarz/gold, small whites.. necklace, I fell in love immediately..

Guess what will happen tomorrow? Thanks a lot for that and post in general, I

seemed to need exactly this type of analysis..

 

Thank you,

AnnaSwee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote:

Jaya JagannathaDear Anna,j.b wrote:> Dear Swee,> > I've received many

contradicting suggestion re stone. I am Cn L/Sc > Moon, and am in AK Moon MD- I

do wear pearl, but haven't noticed any > effect.Swee: Positive effects maybe be

brief during Moon's maha and antardasas: 10 months during Mo/Mo, 1 month during

Mars, Rahu, Saturn etc PD's. Must have been atrying time for you regarding

marriage, child and monetary constraints). Moon is also your Yogada, hence stay

on with the Moonstone (Read up on Vedic Remedies in Astrology-Sanjay Rath who

recommends that Moonstone is to be installed for Moon's debility. I wear a

bracelet on my left and watching it over the years, it is becoming more and

more opalescent blue! The downside is, real Adularia (Moonstone) can be much

costlier than Pearl. Sorry for

that.Upaya: Gift of Pearl to a student studying to be a Priest. 2nd from

debilitated Moon is Badhak with Mercury in Sg. Even better, sponsor a student

through his 10 year Brahmanic studies in the Gurukulam. (Gurus may verify).>

1/Second stone suggested to me is Yellow Saphire, /or Citrine/-Lord of > 6th

and 9th in 9th House/In Saturn nakstra and oposite Saturn in 3rd/ > - Jup is on

Lagna in AL and UL, and in 4th H in navasma, Sc. Sounds > pretty safe choice.

So, now I have 2ct YS and 5ct Citrine, beautiful > stones, however, not only

that I don't have impression they work well > for me, but I doubt they are bad

for me. Off and on- not sure still. > Would you please comment on this, and

suggest the appropriate one.Swee: Seems okay, as Saturn opposes Jupiter and can

cause his debility. Jupiter is in own, hence I wouldn't consider Amethyst.

Saturn and Moon are in conflict. Moon in Saturn's nakshatra

indicates activities of the 7th and 8th (refer also to Sanjay Rath's tapes

"Nakshatras" from the Bava Conference, London 2001; well worth the

investment).The main thing I would to point out here is, if you do not feel an

immediate attractiong towards a gemstone as soon as you lay eyes on it or get

good vibes from it, most likely it is not suitable for you. I have Jupiter in

parivatana with Mercury and I have a faceted 70+ carat Citrine by my headboard.

> 2/Mars is YK in 4th, and I'll be in Mars MD soon, but I learned not > to wear

Coral, because Mars is in 8th fromAL/and UL/ Swee: A fierce planet in the 8th

from AL is okay. But Mars is not a Yogada in your chart, even though it maybe

your YK. In Jataka Paritaka/Brihat Jataka?, it states that Mars in the 4th

during its period destroys assets etc. (Bang goes your chances of getting

alimony.)I have Mars in Taurus. To quell Mars' impulsiveness, the activity is

in

martial arts and in the sign of Venus, it would be in the artistic form, hence

Arica Tai Chi. (short form Tai Chi represents Mars' impatience, I suppose, but

a more difficult style to achieve as it requires precision in all the

movements). Also helps to strengthen kidneys, the Chi (kundalini) and peace of

mind. Try it, you'll love it. :-)> 3/Personally, I like Blue Saph and Diamonds,

but they are the worst > stones for me/Venus badakhesh in 6th/ I love Violet,

Black, Burgundy, > Ametist...etc- I am surprised that my 'inner-self' doesn't

know what's > good for me- otherwise /food, company, choices../ I respect a lot

my > 'inner' inclinations or repulsions..However, Here it obviously doesn't >

work.> > I am thinking that Ju in Sa Naksh. gives Sa results, as /my favourite

> in colours and other things/ Sa in Moon Naks..appears diferently..> Just a

hypotesis..Swee: Hypothesis is

correct, though I don't really know the direction you may be going towards. Rahu

maybe in your mooltrikona in 8th from lagna, in which case, if Ghatika lagna is

there, he may as well be mahayogada in your chart. Chances of inheritance to be

got if you are to install the gemstone? Who knows. Rahu is so opposed to

spirituality. So which direction are you heading utilising colours for both

Saturn and Rahu?Jupiter's gem can help strengthen your solar plexus, the result

of which manifests in the violet colour in the throat chakra.You might as well

forget Jupiter's dasa as Rahu has to come before it, which is after your Mars

main.Though both Saturn and Jupiter can cause a potential rajayoga, it is not

until those periods come in. As for Saturn main, it come only after Jupiter.>

Basic Q seems to be: Why did my sense fail here?> > Swee: Simple. I have done

quite a few charts of people with > debilitated Moon. They

tend to over melodramatise their thoughts and > for people they like, it takes

them a while to realise that they have > made the wrong choice when it comes to

their own judgements because of > their pre-conceived notions. But can

psychologically punish them if > they've let you down. Or hatred with such

repulsion. (An extremist > where this area is concerned). Here comes Saturn's

nakshatra during > Moon's period! Saturn can mar Moon's clarity. On your

Narayan dasa, > have you managed to work it out? Your Sun has to be in

Capricorn > bearing all calcs. Then begin your dasa with Capricorn which should

> bring you currently into your Badhakesh period. So it is all about > You,

career etc and all movable signs (rasi drishti) Not much fun, > there where 6th

house matters are concern wrt to finances, > litigations, health concerns etc.I

am certain you have been practising > daily meditations with

good clean diet?> I would greatly appreciate your comments and suggestions ,

stone wise > and otherwise..what upayas would be, instead /for mars dosha,

above > mentioned afflictions../Swee: Kuja Dosha nullifies after the age of 26.

Though as an after thought regarding your martian concerns I wonder if you were

born during the dark half of the Moon during Kishna Ekadasi? So Moon becomes a

malefic too? Ouch!> Hope my above pre-empting is the correct prognosis. Don't

ask for > more as I loathe to spend too long on a chart. Sanjayji says we

should > be able to give a quick snap shot within the minute. ......sigh, if >

only keyboards were like the piano, how much faster we can type as we > speak

;-) .> Thank you very much.> AnnaYou're

welcome.Sweeswee (AT) brihaspati (DOT) netwww.brihaspati.net>> Swee Chan wrote:>> Jaya

Jagannatha>> Dear Neeraj>> Neeraj Gupta wrote:> Om Namah Shivaya>>>As the lagna

is pisces, and the lagna lord is Jupiter.>>So, the stone for jupiter is Yellow

Sapphire. Now as>>Jupiter is placed in 8th house. I doubt a bit, whether>>the

stone should be prescribed or not.>>In earlier reference taken from this list,

I was told that a yogkarak planet, if debiliated or weakly placed can be

recommended (e.g. Mars for leo and hence red coral can be recommended)>>So, I

am also curious to know, that as Lagnesh is placed in 8th House (Duthanas) and

also jupiter is lord of 10th house. Can the Yellow Sapphire recommended in this

condition? >>I request senior members / Gurus to throw light on>>this

situation.>>>>regards,>>>>Neeraj Gupta>>>>As we know the Lagna lord always

protects. If you are recommending a life

gemstone for the Lagan Lord this is fine. But if you are trying to recommend for

a yoga to happen. Arudha Lagna is in Taurus, and is aspected also by rasi

dristhi. Jupiter is also 6th from AL and in enemy's house/sign will face

misfortunes etc. As Venus denotes the Brahmin, it is perhaps better to perform

purifactory rites and give dakshina of white silk and gold. Then feed Brahmanas

after this. Depending on where Mars is placed, my preference would be Red Coral.

Of course this is dependent on what type of yogas it creates in this particular

chart (including all the vargas), hence you will expect good material results

during its antardasa.>>>>BTW, as for the preference to Yellow Sapphire and not

Yellow Topaz, check in the archives for discussions regarding the two. :-)

>>>>Best wishes,>>Swee>>swee (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net >>www.brihaspati.net >> >>>>>

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