Sri Rudram/Chamakam

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Sarajit Poddar

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Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:01 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] SADE SATHI & Sri Rudram/Chamakam

Jaya JagannathDear Jyotisha,

 

Please find attahced the Sanskrit as well as english transliteration of the

Chamaka Prasna with proper intonation. You need to install the fonts I am

attaching, to see the text properly.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

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Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Saturday, April 26, 2003 3:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] SADE SATHI & Sri Rudram/Chamakam

Jaya Jagannath

Dear Sridhar,

 

A well thought and comprehensive mail. I appreciate your concern that the

innocent might be mislead. But I wonder, what are your fears!!! Its is

thoroughly understood by most of us that the vedic chants are to be recited the

exact intonations passed down by the maharishis themselves. But tell me, how

many of us do all the Gayatris and other mantras with the correct intonations

and let them alone, how many of us even correctly pronounce each and each

syllable of the mantras. There are many who don't and you would agree with me

on that. But, my Jyotish Guru, Pt. Sanjay Rath says that the prasiddha mantras

have the nature of self-correction. In one of the mails Narasimha has showed,

how his daughter, picked up the correct Brhaspati mantra. I have enough

experiences of the same. We know that, we are born with some limitations and we

cannot master the mantras from the first time of recitation, however with

continuous recitations, we reach near the exact ones. For that matter, we

master everything with persistence and patience as we are not born with it.

 

You said, that the chanting of the 3rd Anuvaka of the Chamaka prasna is of

little appeal. Probably you have not experienced the same. This is a prescribed

remedy and according to the Vedic Remedies in Astrology by Pt. Sanjaya Rath.

This anuvaka has tremendous potential to cool down the evil effects of the

Sani. To pacify all the ekadas rudras, the 3rd anuvaka can be recited 11 times.

My own younger brother was passing through a very troubled time and he started

chanting this mantra 11 times as suggested and that too without following the

intonations as given in Yajurveda and he is extremely benefitted. I saw there

are many others who got benefitted out of it. This is easier to remember one

anuvaka and chant it 11 times, than remembering all the 11 anuvakas and thus is

a more practical remedy for the people suffering with kantaka Sani or Sade Sati.

Try this and it shall work for you too.

 

I think I am lucky enough to got in touch with one such person who can teach me

the correct intonation of the vedic mantras. Its difficult, however I myself

try to follow the correct pronunciation and intonation. However, thats not the

only way. Taking the lords name should be a pleasing experience and one need

not be afraid of the rage. We have learnt to love god and not to fear him. More

than that Shiva is our guru, who takes us to the right path, then why shall we

be afraid. Taking his name with full faith shall lead us to the right path.

Then why should we be afraid of.

 

I would like to know such people, who has made veda as something for bed time

reading. A source of knowledge which is as pure as Vedas can only be

comprehended, when studied seriously and with lots of patience and persistence.

Anyway, I am yet to come accross such people in this list. Citing references

shall be a great help.

 

You are right, there could be incorrect transliterations in the websites and

books from the sources mentioned by you could be more appropiate. I have one

from the Ramakrsna Mission and it looks pretty good and matches the recited

versions I have by the pandits from Tirupati. So I guess they would be correct.

I guess, yours is a very valid suggestion in this regard. For that matter, the

one given at the puja.net is not a very correct transliteration. You might

refer to sanskrit.gde.to for the most authentic sanskrit texts on the web,

which has many committed contributers and proof-readers.

 

Thanks a lot for the translaotion on the Rudram. Can you please give me some

link for the translations of the Chamakam?

 

Before I end, just a minute correction, Shiva Panchakshara is Namah Sivaya or

Namassivaya. What you mentioned as Aum Namah Sivaya is Shiva Shadakshara.

 

I would like to comment on your horsocope. However, I would like to see your own analysis first.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit Poddar

 

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Sridar Pootheri

vedic astrology

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Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:54 AM

[vedic astrology] SADE SATHI & Sri Rudram/Chamakam

Dear Members of the List,

Namasthe. Of late, I see a lot of concerns about Sade Sathi and Chamakam being

prescribed as remedy for it. In principle, I agree with this. After patiently

watching the list for a while, thought of honestly expressing what I feel about

its implications, as no one in the list has cautioned the innocent.

First, chanting Chamakam without chanting Sri Rudram (or Namakam) before that

does not make sense. That too chanting just the third Anuvakam of Chamakam has

very little appeal. Come on, take a look at the meaning of that Anuvakam and

for that matter the entire Chamakam and of course, Sri Rudram.

See for example,

http://www.mypurohith.com/Rituals/Namakam1.asp

and ofcourse, as someone already pointed

http://www.puja.net/Pages/YagyaGroup/Pages/Events/Shivaratri03/rudra_translation.htm

Chanting Sri Rudram and Chamakam is perhaps the most ancient Vedic way of

praying to Lord Siva. In fact, more than the meanings/interpretations, it is a

MANTRA that must be chanted in the exact same chanda (or metre) as it is being

chanted by sages and even Devas for all these thousands of years. There is

absolutely no room for compromise in this, folks.

I don't mean to offend anyone. But I cannot stand seeing a set of people

discussing in a tone that "Vedas could make a good bed time reading". NO.

Kindly give them the due respect that they deserve, after all.

It is so rare to get this Human birth. Each of us would like to lead a happy

life. But have brought with us some past Karma (good/bad). When the Grand

Master goes to settle the score with at most Dharma, it is very little that we

humans can do going upstream to change. (By the way, imagine what chaos this

world would be, if there is no one to keep the score of past Karma.) Instead of

learning to cope and emerge out with minimum or no injury, please do not play

with fire and get into more problems by kindling the wrath of Rudra (kAlagni).

However,

Vrikshasyamula Sekena Shakhahpusyanti Vaiyatha |

Shive Rudre Japatprete prita Yevasya Devatah ||

(Suta Samhita)

By watering the tree at the base of the trunk all the parts of the tree

including branches, leaves, fruits etc are strengthened. In the same way, by

worshipping Lord Siva alone, all Devas will be pleased and one will get both

the earthly and heavenly benefits including liberation. So, regularly chanting

Sri Rudram and Chamakam (ie., praying to Siva) certainly would help the

individual - whether during Sade Sathe or not.

So, I suggest the following :

Start with reading some books written by great Gurus to help you focus well on

Siva. Luckily a couple of them are available online for free :

1. http://www.thedivinelifesociety.org/download/lordsiva.htm

2. http://www.himalayanacademy.com/books/dws/

Carefully with all devotion, learn the correct pronunciation of each and every

sound in Sri Rudram and Chamakam from a qualified Guru and then regularly chant

them. In this modern age it is quite hard to find a decent person (it is adharma

to change someone to learn Veda, so you need a less greedy person, who can spend

time teaching you) who chants these ancient treasures without any mistakes, let

alone the problem of those who are living in countries outside the holy land of

India. Further, even if you find such a person, he may not be willing to teach

you - for reasons that you are not born in the high caste of brahmin, etc.,

For that matter, I am one such unfortunate. I live in California, USA and the

Priests in this area simply refused to teach me, as I am not a brahmin by

birth. Luckily several years ago, I had bought from Atlanta Hindu Temple a tape

of this Chanting released by Chinmaya Mission. But due to ignorance (this

happens a lot in this info age) I did not hear it. I digged it out, played it

everyday and followed it with books.

Again, there is some complexity of getting hold of a script that is with the

least number of mistakes, typos, etc., if you cannot read Devanagari. One has

to find books published by institutions like Chinmaya Mission, Ramakrishna

Mutt, where they employ selfless Gurus to do the time consuming proof-readings

the transliterations. The reason I am saying this is because, a lot of us have

already ran into several websites that have published these classics in

transliterated form. I don't mean to under mean them, but would like to caution

the average innocent person not to be mislead even a little.

When you learn it yourself, it is almost certain that you will chant imperfectly

in the beginnings. Unfortunately, that is the fact of life : to make a right

judgement one needs experience and you get the valuable experience only by

making several judgements, of course, wrongly. :-)

But the merciful Siva won't punish you for that, if you do it with atmost

devotion, surrender, put all efforts to correct your mistakes, progressively

improve, etc., Ah ! that is the key - at most DEVOTION and SURRENDER.

In fact, Hinduism is a way of life and it is only by practicing devotion one can

progress spiritually. In particular, you will find an ocean of change in you, as

you regularly chant Sri Rudram and Chamakam with at most devotion and surrender.

Wait a minute. Is this transformation is not what the Grand Master, the

Universal Task Master and Teacher, Sri Sanischara Maharaj wants you to under go

? Yes ! You are learning the lessons and undergoing the transformation - but in

a very pleasant, permanent way. You did not take a short cut ! You took a time

tested and well respected path and you deserve the real rewards.

Nevertheless, all these could be too complicated to some people in this fast

world. A simple solution to such people is to chant the holy Siva Panchakshara

- Aum NamahShivaya, which is embedded in the center of Sri Rudram, as manytimes

as you can - but with at most devotion. Or else, choose some other easy sloka or

mantra to please Sanischaran or Sada Siva.

Sarve Janaah Sukhino Bhavanthu

Warm Regards,

Sridar K Pootheri

PS:

My Sade Sathi has started recently ! I am already jobless for the past 21

months. If anyone cares to shed some light, it would be really helpful.

My birth details :

Time: 4:19 pm (rectified by Yogi Karve Guruji); Date Sept 12, 1966; Place: Madras 80E17, 13N04

Yes, I have my Lord of Lagna Saturn in Retro in 11th from AL; so what ?! Not

sure from when my Exalted Jupiter will kick in Hamsa Yoga. My Debelitated Mars

(though neecha is bhanga) should be getting all His attention. Not sure from

the so called Raja Yoga due to this Mars will show its signs.

Venus MahaDasa had been very disappointing, depressing and emotionally costly.

Hoping that my Sun Maha Dasa starting from July 30th changes my life. My 5L in

D10 is Exalted Sun - His Maha dasha should bring some change in job. But when

and of what sort ?!

 

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