Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 jai sri krishna, Dear chandrashekhar ji , pranaam, i need to thank you for answering my query with regard to ketu in the uppada. I have a very dear friend - we were together in college - just to tell you that we go back a long way. she got married to a gay person who confessed this on the wedding night itself and introduced her to his sexual partner of last 18 years- she divorced him after much mental anguish and trauma.She is very intelligent and works as a psychiatrist- a line she chose to pursue after her divorce. When I look at her chart- - for the purposes of second marriage- do we consider 8th from the Ul or theuppada lagna itself since there was no physical intimacy between the couple.All that I have been able to learn is that one( even when one considers second marriage) is supposed to fast on the day of the uppada lord- something that I have have asked her to do. can she chant om namo narayana? since her uppada lord is jupiter and she is seeking the blessings of narayana -for bringing her spouse to her.Beyond that I'm not capable of saying anything- Just got stuck at the uppada bit.I'm not very knowledgable- just astudent. looking forward to your guidance. regards, anu Her details - D. O. B. - 14th dec. 1964 time20:50 long-76E 25 lat-30N 2 - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:29 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Rani, 1. This time you figure out the answer. You need a place to start? Whats the difference between Rasi and Navamsa? What should be seen in Rasi and what in Navamsa? 2. Forget kendra's, but do look for similar signs/planets. i.e. if Upapada is in scorpio then possibility of marrying an Aries Lagna is also possible, as they are both lorded by Mars. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - raindancer_1998 vedic astrology Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:36 PM [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada dear Visti, thanks! I've got two more questions: 1) do these rules also hold for the navamsa chart of each person? as in, can we compare ULs etc of one person's navamsa chart to the other person's navamsa chart? or is this only for the rashi charts of each party? 2) also, one of my original questions was: is the UL/Lagna trine/conj. rule from the kendra/kona logic? as in the gajakesari yoga (moon in kendra from jupiter makes the yoga, not just conjunct)? or is it just those *aspects* -- e.g., the conj. and trine. am I making any sense? thanks very much!rani.vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Rao,> i. First see the stronger of the Upapada and its 7th. > ii. The spouses lagna will be in trines or joined the lord of UL/7th, whichever is stronger.> iii. The planets in the equvalent trines/or joining the lord, can moderate the specific lagna.> iv. You can use the same principle with Darapada and other Arudha Padas.> v. Sometimes the spouses lagna doesn't match with the Upapada, instead it matches with the Darapada. These marriages don't last.> > Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> - > Rao Nemani > > vedic astrology > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:14 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > Dear Visti Ji,> > Can you please tell me the rules for Upapada matching with the > spouses lagna. > > Also some references, where I can study more in detail regarding this > topic.> > Thanks for your help in advance.> > Regards> Rao> > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote:> > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > Dear Rani,> > The Upapada shows the person we will choose to marry, we will > choose no other, hence hopefully the Upapada matches with the spouses > lagna, otherwise the marriage might not last, and the marriage could > be considered as a mistake!> > Best wishes> > Visti> > ---> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > - > > raindancer_1998 > > vedic astrology > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:50 PM> > [vedic astrology] arudha understanding re upapada> > > > > > dear all, I was reading up on the files attached here, > specifically > > > > the wonderful one on arudhapadas by Shri Sanjay Rath. and I have > a > > question regarding this excellent article and the Arudhas. > > > > please bear with me and correct me if I am wrong, but if indeed > the > > Arudhas represent maya, and the upapada is the *image* of the > > husband of the wife (whether it is the lagna or the navamsa > chart) > > then why should we place so much importance on upapada matching? > > should we not just match the 7th house and the lagna of each > chart? > > Am I being stupid and missing something essential regarding the > > arudha padas and their true importance? > > > > also, re the trine/opp -- the rule that states that -- is it > based > > on kendra/kona logic? if so, going from that, should the square > also > > not apply? > > > > many thanks for listening. > > > > warm regards, > > rani.> > > > > > Groups Sponsor > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms of > Service.> > > Groups Sponsor > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ........ 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Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Dear Anu, About chanting of mantra, chanting the lord's name has never hurt anybody. About her problem from astrological point of view, there are two ways to go about this. One is to treat 7th house as the house for indication of marriage.There are some who think that second marriage should be seen from the 6th house from the 7th house i.e. the 12th house. Both the theories have their merits. In case of first , the marital happiness wrt spouse being seen from the 7th house the reason is apparent. In second case the second spouse is treated the rival of first spouse. I think the timing of the marriage should be based on the Planets occupying the 7th, Lord of the 7th, planets aspecting the 7th and planets having relationship with 7th, like the Karaka, sign dispositor etc; to arrive at the probable Maha Antar dashas. Gochar movements of Jupiter wrt to 7th house should be looked into for its beneficial relation to the 7th or 1st house to get the narrower timeframe within the Maha Antar period. I suppose the girl's 7th house is connected with saturn/Mercury afflicted, given her first husband's inclinations. Find out which amongst Venus and Mars is benefic for her ascendant and ask her to fast on its weekday+recite its mantra. I hope this should help. Chandrashekhar. - anukochhar vedic astrology Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:58 PM [vedic astrology] Uppada when the spouse is gay- for chandrashekharji , vistiand everyone else - pl. respond. jai sri krishna, Dear chandrashekhar ji , pranaam, i need to thank you for answering my query with regard to ketu in the uppada. I have a very dear friend - we were together in college - just to tell you that we go back a long way. she got married to a gay person who confessed this on the wedding night itself and introduced her to his sexual partner of last 18 years- she divorced him after much mental anguish and trauma.She is very intelligent and works as a psychiatrist- a line she chose to pursue after her divorce. When I look at her chart- - for the purposes of second marriage- do we consider 8th from the Ul or theuppada lagna itself since there was no physical intimacy between the couple.All that I have been able to learn is that one( even when one considers second marriage) is supposed to fast on the day of the uppada lord- something that I have have asked her to do. can she chant om namo narayana? since her uppada lord is jupiter and she is seeking the blessings of narayana -for bringing her spouse to her.Beyond that I'm not capable of saying anything- Just got stuck at the uppada bit.I'm not very knowledgable- just astudent. looking forward to your guidance. regards, anu Her details - D. O. B. - 14th dec. 1964 time20:50 long-76E 25 lat-30N 2 - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:29 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Rani, 1. This time you figure out the answer. You need a place to start? Whats the difference between Rasi and Navamsa? What should be seen in Rasi and what in Navamsa? 2. Forget kendra's, but do look for similar signs/planets. i.e. if Upapada is in scorpio then possibility of marrying an Aries Lagna is also possible, as they are both lorded by Mars. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - raindancer_1998 vedic astrology Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:36 PM [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada dear Visti, thanks! I've got two more questions: 1) do these rules also hold for the navamsa chart of each person? as in, can we compare ULs etc of one person's navamsa chart to the other person's navamsa chart? or is this only for the rashi charts of each party? 2) also, one of my original questions was: is the UL/Lagna trine/conj. rule from the kendra/kona logic? as in the gajakesari yoga (moon in kendra from jupiter makes the yoga, not just conjunct)? or is it just those *aspects* -- e.g., the conj. and trine. am I making any sense? thanks very much!rani.vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Rao,> i. First see the stronger of the Upapada and its 7th. > ii. The spouses lagna will be in trines or joined the lord of UL/7th, whichever is stronger.> iii. The planets in the equvalent trines/or joining the lord, can moderate the specific lagna.> iv. You can use the same principle with Darapada and other Arudha Padas.> v. Sometimes the spouses lagna doesn't match with the Upapada, instead it matches with the Darapada. These marriages don't last.> > Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> - > Rao Nemani > > vedic astrology > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:14 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > Dear Visti Ji,> > Can you please tell me the rules for Upapada matching with the > spouses lagna. > > Also some references, where I can study more in detail regarding this > topic.> > Thanks for your help in advance.> > Regards> Rao> > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote:> > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > Dear Rani,> > The Upapada shows the person we will choose to marry, we will > choose no other, hence hopefully the Upapada matches with the spouses > lagna, otherwise the marriage might not last, and the marriage could > be considered as a mistake!> > Best wishes> > Visti> > ---> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > - > > raindancer_1998 > > vedic astrology > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:50 PM> > [vedic astrology] arudha understanding re upapada> > > > > > dear all, I was reading up on the files attached here, > specifically > > > > the wonderful one on arudhapadas by Shri Sanjay Rath. and I have > a > > question regarding this excellent article and the Arudhas. > > > > please bear with me and correct me if I am wrong, but if indeed > the > > Arudhas represent maya, and the upapada is the *image* of the > > husband of the wife (whether it is the lagna or the navamsa > chart) > > then why should we place so much importance on upapada matching? > > should we not just match the 7th house and the lagna of each > chart? > > Am I being stupid and missing something essential regarding the > > arudha padas and their true importance? > > > > also, re the trine/opp -- the rule that states that -- is it > based > > on kendra/kona logic? if so, going from that, should the square > also > > not apply? > > > > many thanks for listening. > > > > warm regards, > > rani.> > > > > > Groups Sponsor > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms of > Service.> > > Groups Sponsor > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ........ 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