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Om namah shivaya

 

Dear Anu

 

the second marriage is seen from the 2nd house, as it is the 8th from

the 7th(first marriage). It is also seen from 8th from first Ul.

here her first Ul is in Pisces, and thus libra would be the 2nd Ul.

But for fasting purposes she should fast on the lord of the first Ul

only. Here it is jupiter and thus it is Lord Sada Shiva on thursdays.

Regards

partha

om tat sat

 

 

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Anu,

> About chanting of mantra, chanting the lord's name has never hurt

anybody.

> About her problem from astrological point of view, there are two

ways to go about this. One is to treat 7th house as the house for

indication of marriage.There are some who think that second marriage

should be seen from the 6th house from the 7th house i.e. the 12th

house. Both the theories have their merits.

> In case of first , the marital happiness wrt spouse being seen from

the 7th house the reason is apparent.

> In second case the second spouse is treated the rival of first

spouse.

> I think the timing of the marriage should be based on the Planets

occupying the 7th, Lord of the 7th, planets aspecting the 7th and

planets having relationship with 7th, like the Karaka, sign

dispositor etc; to arrive at the probable Maha Antar dashas. Gochar

movements of Jupiter wrt to 7th house should be looked into for its

beneficial relation to the 7th or 1st house to get the narrower

timeframe within the Maha Antar period.

> I suppose the girl's 7th house is connected with saturn/Mercury

afflicted, given her first husband's inclinations.

> Find out which amongst Venus and Mars is benefic for her ascendant

and ask her to fast on its weekday+recite its mantra.

> I hope this should help.

> Chandrashekhar.

> -

> anukochhar

> vedic astrology

> Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:58 PM

> [vedic astrology] Uppada when the spouse is gay- for

chandrashekharji , vistiand everyone else - pl. respond.

>

>

> jai sri krishna,

>

> Dear chandrashekhar ji ,

> pranaam,

>

> i need to thank you for answering my query with regard to ketu

in the uppada.

>

> I have a very dear friend - we were together in college - just to

tell you that we go back a long way.

>

> she got married to a gay person who confessed this on the wedding

night itself and introduced her to his sexual partner of last 18

years- she divorced him after much mental anguish and trauma.She is

very intelligent and works as a psychiatrist- a line she chose to

pursue after her divorce.

>

> When I look at her chart- - for the purposes of second marriage-

do we consider 8th from the Ul or theuppada lagna itself since there

was no physical intimacy between the couple.All that I have been able

to learn is that one( even when one considers second marriage) is

supposed to fast on the day of the uppada lord- something that I have

have asked her to do.

> can she chant om namo narayana? since her uppada lord is jupiter

and she is seeking the blessings of narayana -for bringing her spouse

to her.Beyond that I'm not capable of saying anything- Just got stuck

at the uppada bit.I'm not very knowledgable- just astudent.

>

> looking forward to your guidance.

>

> regards,

> anu

>

> Her details - D. O. B. - 14th dec. 1964

> time20:50

> long-76E 25

>

> lat-30N 2

> -

> Visti Larsen

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:29 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re

upapada

>

>

> |Hare Rama Krishna|

> Dear Rani,

> 1. This time you figure out the answer. You need a place to

start? Whats the difference between Rasi and Navamsa? What should be

seen in Rasi and what in Navamsa?

> 2. Forget kendra's, but do look for similar signs/planets. i.e.

if Upapada is in scorpio then possibility of marrying an Aries Lagna

is also possible, as they are both lorded by Mars.

> Best wishes

> Visti

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> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:36 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada

>

>

> dear Visti,

>

> thanks! I've got two more questions:

>

> 1) do these rules also hold for the navamsa chart of each

person? as

> in, can we compare ULs etc of one person's navamsa chart to

the

> other person's navamsa chart? or is this only for the rashi

charts

> of each party?

>

> 2) also, one of my original questions was: is the UL/Lagna

> trine/conj. rule from the kendra/kona logic? as in the

gajakesari

> yoga (moon in kendra from jupiter makes the yoga, not just

> conjunct)?

>

> or is it just those *aspects* -- e.g., the conj. and trine.

am I

> making any sense?

>

> thanks very much!

>

> rani.

>

> vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

<vishnu@l...>

> wrote:

> > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > Dear Rao,

> > i. First see the stronger of the Upapada and its 7th.

> > ii. The spouses lagna will be in trines or joined the lord

of

> UL/7th, whichever is stronger.

> > iii. The planets in the equvalent trines/or joining the

lord, can

> moderate the specific lagna.

> > iv. You can use the same principle with Darapada and other

Arudha

> Padas.

> > v. Sometimes the spouses lagna doesn't match with the

Upapada,

> instead it matches with the Darapada. These marriages don't

last.

> >

> > Best wishes

> > Visti

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> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:14 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re

upapada

> >

> >

> > Dear Visti Ji,

> >

> > Can you please tell me the rules for Upapada matching

with the

> > spouses lagna.

> >

> > Also some references, where I can study more in detail

regarding

> this

> > topic.

> >

> > Thanks for your help in advance.

> >

> > Regards

> > Rao

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

> <vishnu@l...>

> > wrote:

> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > > Dear Rani,

> > > The Upapada shows the person we will choose to marry,

we will

> > choose no other, hence hopefully the Upapada matches with

the

> spouses

> > lagna, otherwise the marriage might not last, and the

marriage

> could

> > be considered as a mistake!

> > > Best wishes

> > > Visti

> > > ---

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> > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

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> > > vedic astrology

> > > Monday, June 23, 2003 11:50 PM

> > > [vedic astrology] arudha understanding re

upapada

> > >

> > >

> > > dear all, I was reading up on the files attached

here,

> > specifically

> > >

> > > the wonderful one on arudhapadas by Shri Sanjay Rath.

and I

> have

> > a

> > > question regarding this excellent article and the

Arudhas.

> > >

> > > please bear with me and correct me if I am wrong, but

if

> indeed

> > the

> > > Arudhas represent maya, and the upapada is the

*image* of

> the

> > > husband of the wife (whether it is the lagna or the

navamsa

> > chart)

> > > then why should we place so much importance on

upapada

> matching?

> > > should we not just match the 7th house and the lagna

of each

> > chart?

> > > Am I being stupid and missing something essential

regarding

> the

> > > arudha padas and their true importance?

> > >

> > > also, re the trine/opp -- the rule that states that --

is it

> > based

> > > on kendra/kona logic? if so, going from that, should

the

> square

> > also

> > > not apply?

> > >

> > > many thanks for listening.

> > >

> > > warm regards,

> > > rani.

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Om namah shivaya,

 

Chandrashekhar ji and partha ji,

 

Grateful for your prompt responses - however I feel that this is typical ctch 22

situation - The marriage was never consummated- pardon my putting it very

bluntly so how do we look at second marriage /or the second first marriage-

thae original UL or the 8th from it .wonder how I always end up getting stuck

at thse nuances.

 

thank you so much for your kind responses,

regards,

anu.

V.Partha sarathy

vedic astrology

Monday, June 30, 2003 9:59 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Uppada when the spouse -dear Anu

Om namah shivayaDear Anuthe second marriage is seen from the 2nd house, as it is

the 8th from the 7th(first marriage). It is also seen from 8th from first

Ul.here her first Ul is in Pisces, and thus libra would be the 2nd Ul.But for

fasting purposes she should fast on the lord of the first Ul only. Here it is

jupiter and thus it is Lord Sada Shiva on thursdays.Regardsparthaom tat sat---

In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel>

wrote:> Dear Anu,> About chanting of mantra, chanting the lord's name has never

hurt anybody.> About her problem from astrological point of view, there are two

ways to go about this. One is to treat 7th house as the house for indication of

marriage.There are some who think that second marriage should be seen from the

6th house from the 7th house i.e. the 12th house. Both the theories have their

merits.> In case of first , the marital happiness wrt spouse being seen from

the 7th house the reason is apparent.> In second case the second spouse is

treated the rival of first spouse.> I think the timing of the marriage should

be based on the Planets occupying the 7th, Lord of the 7th, planets aspecting

the 7th and planets having relationship with 7th, like the Karaka, sign

dispositor etc; to arrive at the probable Maha Antar dashas. Gochar movements

of Jupiter wrt to 7th house should be looked into for its beneficial relation

to the 7th or 1st house to get the narrower timeframe within the Maha Antar

period.> I suppose the girl's 7th house is connected with saturn/Mercury

afflicted, given her first husband's inclinations.> Find out which amongst

Venus and Mars is benefic for her ascendant and ask her to fast on its

weekday+recite its mantra.> I hope this should help.> Chandrashekhar.> -----

Original Message ----- > anukochhar > To:

vedic astrology > Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:58 PM>

[vedic astrology] Uppada when the spouse is gay- for chandrashekharji

, vistiand everyone else - pl. respond.> > > jai sri krishna,> > Dear

chandrashekhar ji ,> pranaam,> > i need to thank you for answering my

query with regard to ketu in the uppada.> > I have a very dear friend - we

were together in college - just to tell you that we go back a long way.> >

she got married to a gay person who confessed this on the wedding night itself

and introduced her to his sexual partner of last 18 years- she divorced him

after much mental anguish and trauma.She is very intelligent and works as a

psychiatrist- a line she chose to pursue after her divorce.> > When I look at

her chart- - for the purposes of second marriage- do we consider 8th from the Ul

or theuppada lagna itself since there was no physical intimacy between the

couple.All that I have been able to learn is that one( even when one considers

second marriage) is supposed to fast on the day of the uppada lord- something

that I have have asked her to do.> can she chant om namo narayana? since her

uppada lord is jupiter and she is seeking the blessings of narayana -for

bringing her spouse to her.Beyond that I'm not capable of saying anything- Just

got stuck at the uppada bit.I'm not very knowledgable- just astudent.> >

looking forward to your guidance.> > regards,> anu> > Her details - D. O.

B. - 14th dec. 1964> time20:50> long-76E 25> > lat-30N 2> -----

Original Message ----- > Visti Larsen > To:

vedic astrology > Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:29 AM>

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > >

|Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Rani,> 1. This time you figure out the

answer. You need a place to start? Whats the difference between Rasi and

Navamsa? What should be seen in Rasi and what in Navamsa?> 2. Forget

kendra's, but do look for similar signs/planets. i.e. if Upapada is in scorpio

then possibility of marrying an Aries Lagna is also possible, as they are both

lorded by Mars.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original

Message ----- > raindancer_1998 > To:

vedic astrology > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:36 PM>

[vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > >

dear Visti, > > thanks! I've got two more questions: > > 1) do

these rules also hold for the navamsa chart of each person? as > in, can

we compare ULs etc of one person's navamsa chart to the > other person's

navamsa chart? or is this only for the rashi charts > of each party? > >

2) also, one of my original questions was: is the UL/Lagna >

trine/conj. rule from the kendra/kona logic? as in the gajakesari > yoga

(moon in kendra from jupiter makes the yoga, not just > conjunct)? > >

or is it just those *aspects* -- e.g., the conj. and trine. am I >

making any sense? > > thanks very much!> > rani.> > --- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote:>

> |Hare Rama Krishna|> > Dear Rao,> > i. First see the stronger

of the Upapada and its 7th. > > ii. The spouses lagna will be in trines

or joined the lord of > UL/7th, whichever is stronger.> > iii. The

planets in the equvalent trines/or joining the lord, can > moderate the

specific lagna.> > iv. You can use the same principle with Darapada and

other Arudha > Padas.> > v. Sometimes the spouses lagna doesn't

match with the Upapada, > instead it matches with the Darapada. These

marriages don't last.> > > > Best wishes> > Visti> >

---> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> > Bhagavad

Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > iTRANS 99 Font:

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> Rao Nemani > > > > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:14 PM> > Subject:

[vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > > >

> Dear Visti Ji,> > > > Can you please tell me the rules for

Upapada matching with the > > spouses lagna. > > > > Also

some references, where I can study more in detail regarding > this >

> topic.> > > > Thanks for your help in advance.> > >

> Regards> > Rao> > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > <vishnu@l...> > >

wrote:> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > > Dear Rani,> > >

The Upapada shows the person we will choose to marry, we will > >

choose no other, hence hopefully the Upapada matches with the > spouses >

> lagna, otherwise the marriage might not last, and the marriage >

could > > be considered as a mistake!> > > Best wishes> >

> Visti> > > ---> > > Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> > > Bhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > > iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > > - >

> > raindancer_1998 > > > To:

vedic astrology > > > Monday, June 23, 2003

11:50 PM> > > [vedic astrology] arudha understanding re

upapada> > > > > > > > > dear all, I was reading up

on the files attached here, > > specifically > > > > >

> the wonderful one on arudhapadas by Shri Sanjay Rath. and I > have >

> a > > > question regarding this excellent article and the

Arudhas. > > > > > > please bear with me and correct me if I

am wrong, but if > indeed > > the > > > Arudhas

represent maya, and the upapada is the *image* of > the > > >

husband of the wife (whether it is the lagna or the navamsa > > chart)

> > > then why should we place so much importance on upapada >

matching? > > > should we not just match the 7th house and the lagna

of each > > chart? > > > Am I being stupid and missing

something essential regarding > the > > > arudha padas and

their true importance? > > > > > > also, re the trine/opp --

the rule that states that --is it > > based > > > on

kendra/kona logic? if so, going from that, should the > square > >

also > > > not apply? > > > > > > many thanks for

listening. > > > > > > warm regards, > > > rani.>

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Dear Anu

 

The second marriage is seen from 8th from first UL. That means Ul2

should be seen for the charecteristics and other related issues for

the second spouse.

regrds

partha

om tat sat

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "anukochhar"

<anukochhar11@s...> wrote:

> Om namah shivaya,

>

> Chandrashekhar ji and partha ji,

>

> Grateful for your prompt responses - however I feel that this is

typical ctch 22 situation - The marriage was never consummated-

pardon my putting it very bluntly so how do we look at second

marriage /or the second first marriage- thae original UL or the

8th from it .wonder how I always end up getting stuck at thse nuances.

>

> thank you so much for your kind responses,

> regards,

> anu.

> V.Partha sarathy

> vedic astrology

> Monday, June 30, 2003 9:59 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Uppada when the spouse -dear Anu

>

>

> Om namah shivaya

>

> Dear Anu

>

> the second marriage is seen from the 2nd house, as it is the 8th

from

> the 7th(first marriage). It is also seen from 8th from first Ul.

> here her first Ul is in Pisces, and thus libra would be the 2nd

Ul.

> But for fasting purposes she should fast on the lord of the first

Ul

> only. Here it is jupiter and thus it is Lord Sada Shiva on

thursdays.

> Regards

> partha

> om tat sat

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

> <boxdel> wrote:

> > Dear Anu,

> > About chanting of mantra, chanting the lord's name has never

hurt

> anybody.

> > About her problem from astrological point of view, there are

two

> ways to go about this. One is to treat 7th house as the house for

> indication of marriage.There are some who think that second

marriage

> should be seen from the 6th house from the 7th house i.e. the

12th

> house. Both the theories have their merits.

> > In case of first , the marital happiness wrt spouse being seen

from

> the 7th house the reason is apparent.

> > In second case the second spouse is treated the rival of first

> spouse.

> > I think the timing of the marriage should be based on the

Planets

> occupying the 7th, Lord of the 7th, planets aspecting the 7th and

> planets having relationship with 7th, like the Karaka, sign

> dispositor etc; to arrive at the probable Maha Antar dashas.

Gochar

> movements of Jupiter wrt to 7th house should be looked into for

its

> beneficial relation to the 7th or 1st house to get the narrower

> timeframe within the Maha Antar period.

> > I suppose the girl's 7th house is connected with saturn/Mercury

> afflicted, given her first husband's inclinations.

> > Find out which amongst Venus and Mars is benefic for her

ascendant

> and ask her to fast on its weekday+recite its mantra.

> > I hope this should help.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> > -

> > anukochhar

> > vedic astrology

> > Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:58 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Uppada when the spouse is gay- for

> chandrashekharji , vistiand everyone else - pl. respond.

> >

> >

> > jai sri krishna,

> >

> > Dear chandrashekhar ji ,

> > pranaam,

> >

> > i need to thank you for answering my query with regard to

ketu

> in the uppada.

> >

> > I have a very dear friend - we were together in college -

just to

> tell you that we go back a long way.

> >

> > she got married to a gay person who confessed this on the

wedding

> night itself and introduced her to his sexual partner of last 18

> years- she divorced him after much mental anguish and trauma.She

is

> very intelligent and works as a psychiatrist- a line she chose to

> pursue after her divorce.

> >

> > When I look at her chart- - for the purposes of second

marriage-

> do we consider 8th from the Ul or theuppada lagna itself since

there

> was no physical intimacy between the couple.All that I have been

able

> to learn is that one( even when one considers second marriage) is

> supposed to fast on the day of the uppada lord- something that I

have

> have asked her to do.

> > can she chant om namo narayana? since her uppada lord is

jupiter

> and she is seeking the blessings of narayana -for bringing her

spouse

> to her.Beyond that I'm not capable of saying anything- Just got

stuck

> at the uppada bit.I'm not very knowledgable- just astudent.

> >

> > looking forward to your guidance.

> >

> > regards,

> > anu

> >

> > Her details - D. O. B. - 14th dec. 1964

> > time20:50

> > long-76E 25

> >

> > lat-30N 2

> > -

> > Visti Larsen

> > vedic astrology

> > Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:29 AM

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> upapada

> >

> >

> > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > Dear Rani,

> > 1. This time you figure out the answer. You need a place to

> start? Whats the difference between Rasi and Navamsa? What should

be

> seen in Rasi and what in Navamsa?

> > 2. Forget kendra's, but do look for similar signs/planets.

i.e.

> if Upapada is in scorpio then possibility of marrying an Aries

Lagna

> is also possible, as they are both lorded by Mars.

> > Best wishes

> > Visti

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> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:36 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re

upapada

> >

> >

> > dear Visti,

> >

> > thanks! I've got two more questions:

> >

> > 1) do these rules also hold for the navamsa chart of each

> person? as

> > in, can we compare ULs etc of one person's navamsa chart

to

> the

> > other person's navamsa chart? or is this only for the

rashi

> charts

> > of each party?

> >

> > 2) also, one of my original questions was: is the

UL/Lagna

> > trine/conj. rule from the kendra/kona logic? as in the

> gajakesari

> > yoga (moon in kendra from jupiter makes the yoga, not

just

> > conjunct)?

> >

> > or is it just those *aspects* -- e.g., the conj. and

trine.

> am I

> > making any sense?

> >

> > thanks very much!

> >

> > rani.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

> <vishnu@l...>

> > wrote:

> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > > Dear Rao,

> > > i. First see the stronger of the Upapada and its 7th.

> > > ii. The spouses lagna will be in trines or joined the

lord

> of

> > UL/7th, whichever is stronger.

> > > iii. The planets in the equvalent trines/or joining the

> lord, can

> > moderate the specific lagna.

> > > iv. You can use the same principle with Darapada and

other

> Arudha

> > Padas.

> > > v. Sometimes the spouses lagna doesn't match with the

> Upapada,

> > instead it matches with the Darapada. These marriages

don't

> last.

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > > Visti

> > > ---

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> > >

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:14 PM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding

re

> upapada

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Visti Ji,

> > >

> > > Can you please tell me the rules for Upapada matching

> with the

> > > spouses lagna.

> > >

> > > Also some references, where I can study more in

detail

> regarding

> > this

> > > topic.

> > >

> > > Thanks for your help in advance.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Rao

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Visti

Larsen"

> > <vishnu@l...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > > > Dear Rani,

> > > > The Upapada shows the person we will choose to

marry,

> we will

> > > choose no other, hence hopefully the Upapada matches

with

> the

> > spouses

> > > lagna, otherwise the marriage might not last, and the

> marriage

> > could

> > > be considered as a mistake!

> > > > Best wishes

> > > > Visti

> > > > ---

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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> > > > raindancer_1998

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Monday, June 23, 2003 11:50 PM

> > > > [vedic astrology] arudha understanding

re

> upapada

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > dear all, I was reading up on the files attached

> here,

> > > specifically

> > > >

> > > > the wonderful one on arudhapadas by Shri Sanjay

Rath.

> and I

> > have

> > > a

> > > > question regarding this excellent article and the

> Arudhas.

> > > >

> > > > please bear with me and correct me if I am wrong,

but

> if

> > indeed

> > > the

> > > > Arudhas represent maya, and the upapada is the

> *image* of

> > the

> > > > husband of the wife (whether it is the lagna or

the

> navamsa

> > > chart)

> > > > then why should we place so much importance on

> upapada

> > matching?

> > > > should we not just match the 7th house and the

lagna

> of each

> > > chart?

> > > > Am I being stupid and missing something essential

> regarding

> > the

> > > > arudha padas and their true importance?

> > > >

> > > > also, re the trine/opp -- the rule that states

that --

> is it

> > > based

> > > > on kendra/kona logic? if so, going from that,

should

> the

> > square

> > > also

> > > > not apply?

> > > >

> > > > many thanks for listening.

> > > >

> > > > warm regards,

> > > > rani.

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Dear Anu,

If you have read my mail, you will find mention about Saturn-Marcury the enuchs.

So non consumation of marriage, was anyway indicated. For finding out the time

that her second marriage is likely to happen( if she has obtained divorce), I

have already given how to go about it. You can come to conclusion yourself. By

the way you have not indicated whether the 7th is conected with Saturn or

mercury.

Chandrashekhar.

----

 

 

Om namah shivaya,

 

Chandrashekhar ji and partha ji,

 

Grateful for your prompt responses - however I feel that this is typical ctch 22

situation - The marriage was never consummated- pardon my putting it very

bluntly so how do we look at second marriage /or the second first marriage-

thae original UL or the 8th from it .wonder how I always end up getting stuck

at thse nuances.

 

thank you so much for your kind responses,

regards,

anu.

V.Partha sarathy

vedic astrology

Monday, June 30, 2003 9:59 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Uppada when the spouse -dear Anu

Om namah shivayaDear Anuthe second marriage is seen from the 2nd house, as it is

the 8th from the 7th(first marriage). It is also seen from 8th from first

Ul.here her first Ul is in Pisces, and thus libra would be the 2nd Ul.But for

fasting purposes she should fast on the lord of the first Ul only. Here it is

jupiter and thus it is Lord Sada Shiva on thursdays.Regardsparthaom tat sat---

In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel>

wrote:> Dear Anu,> About chanting of mantra, chanting the lord's name has never

hurt anybody.> About her problem from astrological point of view, there are two

ways to go about this. One is to treat 7th house as the house for indication of

marriage.There are some who think that second marriage should be seen from the

6th house from the 7th house i.e. the 12th house. Both the theories have their

merits.> In case of first , the marital happiness wrt spouse being seen from

the 7th house the reason is apparent.> In second case the second spouse is

treated the rival of first spouse.> I think the timing of the marriage should

be based on the Planets occupying the 7th, Lord of the 7th, planets aspecting

the 7th and planets having relationship with 7th, like the Karaka, sign

dispositor etc; to arrive at the probable Maha Antar dashas. Gochar movements

of Jupiter wrt to 7th house should be looked into for its beneficial relation

to the 7th or 1st house to get the narrower timeframe within the Maha Antar

period.> I suppose the girl's 7th house is connected with saturn/Mercury

afflicted, given her first husband's inclinations.> Find out which amongst

Venus and Mars is benefic for her ascendant and ask her to fast on its

weekday+recite its mantra.> I hope this should help.> Chandrashekhar.> -----

Original Message ----- > anukochhar > To:

vedic astrology > Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:58 PM>

[vedic astrology] Uppada when the spouse is gay- for chandrashekharji

, vistiand everyone else - pl. respond.> > > jai sri krishna,> > Dear

chandrashekhar ji ,> pranaam,> > i need to thank you for answering my

query with regard to ketu in the uppada.> > I have a very dear friend - we

were together in college - just to tell you that we go back a long way.> >

she got married to a gay person who confessed this on the wedding night itself

and introduced her to his sexual partner of last 18 years- she divorced him

after much mental anguish and trauma.She is very intelligent and works as a

psychiatrist- a line she chose to pursue after her divorce.> > When I look at

her chart- - for the purposes of second marriage- do we consider 8th from the Ul

or theuppada lagna itself since there was no physical intimacy between the

couple.All that I have been able to learn is that one( even when one considers

second marriage) is supposed to fast on the day of the uppada lord- something

that I have have asked her to do.> can she chant om namo narayana? since her

uppada lord is jupiter and she is seeking the blessings of narayana -for

bringing her spouse to her.Beyond that I'm not capable of saying anything- Just

got stuck at the uppada bit.I'm not very knowledgable- just astudent.> >

looking forward to your guidance.> > regards,> anu> > Her details - D. O.

B. - 14th dec. 1964> time20:50> long-76E 25> > lat-30N 2> -----

Original Message ----- > Visti Larsen > To:

vedic astrology > Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:29 AM>

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > >

|Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Rani,> 1. This time you figure out the

answer. You need a place to start? Whats the difference between Rasi and

Navamsa? What should be seen in Rasi and what in Navamsa?> 2. Forget

kendra's, but do look for similar signs/planets. i.e. if Upapada is in scorpio

then possibility of marrying an Aries Lagna is also possible, as they are both

lorded by Mars.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original

Message ----- > raindancer_1998 > To:

vedic astrology > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:36 PM>

[vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > >

dear Visti, > > thanks! I've got two more questions: > > 1) do

these rules also hold for the navamsa chart of each person? as > in, can

we compare ULs etc of one person's navamsa chart to the > other person's

navamsa chart? or is this only for the rashi charts > of each party? > >

2) also, one of my original questions was: is the UL/Lagna >

trine/conj. rule from the kendra/kona logic? as in the gajakesari > yoga

(moon in kendra from jupiter makes the yoga, not just > conjunct)? > >

or is it just those *aspects* -- e.g., the conj. and trine. am I >

making any sense? > > thanks very much!> > rani.> > --- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote:>

> |Hare Rama Krishna|> > Dear Rao,> > i. First see the stronger

of the Upapada and its 7th. > > ii. The spouses lagna will be in trines

or joined the lord of > UL/7th, whichever is stronger.> > iii. The

planets in the equvalent trines/or joining the lord, can > moderate the

specific lagna.> > iv. You can use the same principle with Darapada and

other Arudha > Padas.> > v. Sometimes the spouses lagna doesn't

match with the Upapada, > instead it matches with the Darapada. These

marriages don't last.> > > > Best wishes> > Visti> >

---> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> > Bhagavad

Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > - >

> Rao Nemani > > > > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:14 PM> > Subject:

[vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > > >

> Dear Visti Ji,> > > > Can you please tell me the rules for

Upapada matching with the > > spouses lagna. > > > > Also

some references, where I can study more in detail regarding > this >

> topic.> > > > Thanks for your help in advance.> > >

> Regards> > Rao> > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > <vishnu@l...> > >

wrote:> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > > Dear Rani,> > >

The Upapada shows the person we will choose to marry, we will > >

choose no other, hence hopefully the Upapada matches with the > spouses >

> lagna, otherwise the marriage might not last, and the marriage >

could > > be considered as a mistake!> > > Best wishes> >

> Visti> > > ---> > > Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> > > Bhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > > iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > > - >

> > raindancer_1998 > > > To:

vedic astrology > > > Monday, June 23, 2003

11:50 PM> > > [vedic astrology] arudha understanding re

upapada> > > > > > > > > dear all, I was reading up

on the files attached here, > > specifically > > > > >

> the wonderful one on arudhapadas by Shri Sanjay Rath. and I > have >

> a > > > question regarding this excellent article and the

Arudhas. > > > > > > please bear with me and correct me if I

am wrong, but if > indeed > > the > > > Arudhas

represent maya, and the upapada is the *image* of > the > > >

husband of the wife (whether it is the lagna or the navamsa > > chart)

> > > then why should we place so much importance on upapada >

matching? > > > should we not just match the 7th house and the lagna

of each > > chart? > > > Am I being stupid and missing

something essential regarding > the > > > arudha padas and

their true importance? > > > > > > also, re the trine/opp --

the rule that states that --is it > > based > > > on

kendra/kona logic? if so, going from that, should the > square > >

also > > > not apply? > > > > > > many thanks for

listening. > > > > > > warm regards, > > > rani.>

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Jai sri Ram,

 

Dear chandrashekhar ji ,

 

pranaam,

 

Yes, The seventh house( idon't know how I forgot to mention it- I seem to be

writing all my mails in hurry and in order to make them short - skip so many

details) lord Sat. is in the 8th and 6th has a retro mercury- a neuter.

 

Jupiter at present is aspecting her Asc.- she has met someone very eligible and

so perfect for her- he is in the middle of a messy divorce- so things are

getting delayed here. her jupiter is retro in the natal chart.since mars is

responsible for court cases- and her asc. is cancer- I asked her to recite

hanuman chalisa and to fast on the uppada days.I hope I did the right thing -

the only thing is even if one is a fledgling as far jyotish goes - no matter

how hard you explain- people end up thinking that you are the biggest

astrologer born.Don't want to incur bad karma.Ijust pray for her happiness and

peace.

 

thak you for allthe effort and your replies.

 

sincere regards,

anu.

 

Chandrashekhar Sharma

vedic astrology

Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:04 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Uppada when the spouse -dear Anu

Dear Anu,

If you have read my mail, you will find mention about Saturn-Marcury the enuchs.

So non consumation of marriage, was anyway indicated. For finding out the time

that her second marriage is likely to happen( if she has obtained divorce), I

have already given how to go about it. You can come to conclusion yourself. By

the way you have not indicated whether the 7th is conected with Saturn or

mercury.

Chandrashekhar.

----

 

 

Om namah shivaya,

 

Chandrashekhar ji and partha ji,

 

Grateful for your prompt responses - however I feel that this is typical ctch 22

situation - The marriage was never consummated- pardon my putting it very

bluntly so how do we look at second marriage /or the second first marriage-

thae original UL or the 8th from it .wonder how I always end up getting stuck

at thse nuances.

 

thank you so much for your kind responses,

regards,

anu.

V.Partha sarathy

vedic astrology

Monday, June 30, 2003 9:59 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Uppada when the spouse -dear Anu

Om namah shivayaDear Anuthe second marriage is seen from the 2nd house, as it is

the 8th from the 7th(first marriage). It is also seen from 8th from first

Ul.here her first Ul is in Pisces, and thus libra would be the 2nd Ul.But for

fasting purposes she should fast on the lord of the first Ul only. Here it is

jupiter and thus it is Lord Sada Shiva on thursdays.Regardsparthaom tat sat---

In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel>

wrote:> Dear Anu,> About chanting of mantra, chanting the lord's name has never

hurt anybody.> About her problem from astrological point of view, there are two

ways to go about this. One is to treat 7th house as the house for indication of

marriage.There are some who think that second marriage should be seen from the

6th house from the 7th house i.e. the 12th house. Both the theories have their

merits.> In case of first , the marital happiness wrt spouse being seen from

the 7th house the reason is apparent.> In second case the second spouse is

treated the rival of first spouse.> I think the timing of the marriage should

be based on the Planets occupying the 7th, Lord of the 7th, planets aspecting

the 7th and planets having relationship with 7th, like the Karaka, sign

dispositor etc; to arrive at the probable Maha Antar dashas. Gochar movements

of Jupiter wrt to 7th house should be looked into for its beneficial relation

to the 7th or 1st house to get the narrower timeframe within the Maha Antar

period.> I suppose the girl's 7th house is connected with saturn/Mercury

afflicted, given her first husband's inclinations.> Find out which amongst

Venus and Mars is benefic for her ascendant and ask her to fast on its

weekday+recite its mantra.> I hope this should help.> Chandrashekhar.> -----

Original Message ----- > anukochhar > To:

vedic astrology > Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:58 PM>

[vedic astrology] Uppada when the spouse is gay- for chandrashekharji

, vistiand everyone else - pl. respond.> > > jai sri krishna,> > Dear

chandrashekhar ji ,> pranaam,> > i need to thank you for answering my

query with regard to ketu in the uppada.> > I have a very dear friend - we

were together in college - just to tell you that we go back a long way.> >

she got married to a gay person who confessed this on the wedding night itself

and introduced her to his sexual partner of last 18 years- she divorced him

after much mental anguish and trauma.She is very intelligent and works as a

psychiatrist- a line she chose to pursue after her divorce.> > When I look at

her chart- - for the purposes of second marriage- do we consider 8th from the Ul

or theuppada lagna itself since there was no physical intimacy between the

couple.All that I have been able to learn is that one( even when one considers

second marriage) is supposed to fast on the day of the uppada lord- something

that I have have asked her to do.> can she chant om namo narayana? since her

uppada lord is jupiter and she is seeking the blessings of narayana -for

bringing her spouse to her.Beyond that I'm not capable of saying anything- Just

got stuck at the uppada bit.I'm not very knowledgable- just astudent.> >

looking forward to your guidance.> > regards,> anu> > Her details - D. O.

B. - 14th dec. 1964> time20:50> long-76E 25> > lat-30N 2> -----

Original Message ----- > Visti Larsen > To:

vedic astrology > Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:29 AM>

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > >

|Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Rani,> 1. This time you figure out the

answer. You need a place to start? Whats the difference between Rasi and

Navamsa? What should be seen in Rasi and what in Navamsa?> 2. Forget

kendra's, but do look for similar signs/planets. i.e. if Upapada is in scorpio

then possibility of marrying an Aries Lagna is also possible, as they are both

lorded by Mars.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original

Message ----- > raindancer_1998 > To:

vedic astrology > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:36 PM>

[vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > >

dear Visti, > > thanks! I've got two more questions: > > 1) do

these rules also hold for the navamsa chart of each person? as > in, can

we compare ULs etc of one person's navamsa chart to the > other person's

navamsa chart? or is this only for the rashi charts > of each party? > >

2) also, one of my original questions was: is the UL/Lagna >

trine/conj. rule from the kendra/kona logic? as in the gajakesari > yoga

(moon in kendra from jupiter makes the yoga, not just > conjunct)? > >

or is it just those *aspects* -- e.g., the conj. and trine. am I >

making any sense? > > thanks very much!> > rani.> > --- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote:>

> |Hare Rama Krishna|> > Dear Rao,> > i. First see the stronger

of the Upapada and its 7th. > > ii. The spouses lagna will be in trines

or joined the lord of > UL/7th, whichever is stronger.> > iii. The

planets in the equvalent trines/or joining the lord, can > moderate the

specific lagna.> > iv. You can use the same principle with Darapada and

other Arudha > Padas.> > v. Sometimes the spouses lagna doesn't

match with the Upapada, > instead it matches with the Darapada. These

marriages don't last.> > > > Best wishes> > Visti> >

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> Rao Nemani > > > > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:14 PM> > Subject:

[vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > > >

> Dear Visti Ji,> > > > Can you please tell me the rules for

Upapada matching with the > > spouses lagna. > > > > Also

some references, where I can study more in detail regarding > this >

> topic.> > > > Thanks for your help in advance.> > >

> Regards> > Rao> > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > <vishnu@l...> > >

wrote:> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > > Dear Rani,> > >

The Upapada shows the person we will choose to marry, we will > >

choose no other, hence hopefully the Upapada matches with the > spouses >

> lagna, otherwise the marriage might not last, and the marriage >

could > > be considered as a mistake!> > > Best wishes> >

> Visti> > > ---> > > Sri Jagannath Center:

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http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > > iTRANS 99 Font:

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> > raindancer_1998 > > > To:

vedic astrology > > > Monday, June 23, 2003

11:50 PM> > > [vedic astrology] arudha understanding re

upapada> > > > > > > > > dear all, I was reading up

on the files attached here, > > specifically > > > > >

> the wonderful one on arudhapadas by Shri Sanjay Rath. and I > have >

> a > > > question regarding this excellent article and the

Arudhas. > > > > > > please bear with me and correct me if I

am wrong, but if > indeed > > the > > > Arudhas

represent maya, and the upapada is the *image* of > the > > >

husband of the wife (whether it is the lagna or the navamsa > > chart)

> > > then why should we place so much importance on upapada >

matching? > > > should we not just match the 7th house and the lagna

of each > > chart? > > > Am I being stupid and missing

something essential regarding > the > > > arudha padas and

their true importance? > > > > > > also, re the trine/opp --

the rule that states that --is it > > based > > > on

kendra/kona logic? if so, going from that, should the > square > >

also > > > not apply? > > > > > > many thanks for

listening. > > > > > > warm regards, > > > rani.>

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Dear Anu,

It never hurts anyone to recite the lord's name, so do not worry on that count.

If possible try to check her fiancee's horoscope to find out whether they are

compatible, so that your friend does not suffer.

I personally think, that as far as the intention is to help others one does not

attract bad karma. You have a helping nature and therefore do not feel awkward

if someone looks up to you, for helping one. Let us hope your friend finds

happiness.

Chandrashekhar.

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Jai sri Ram,

 

Dear chandrashekhar ji ,

 

pranaam,

 

Yes, The seventh house( idon't know how I forgot to mention it- I seem to be

writing all my mails in hurry and in order to make them short - skip so many

details) lord Sat. is in the 8th and 6th has a retro mercury- a neuter.

 

Jupiter at present is aspecting her Asc.- she has met someone very eligible and

so perfect for her- he is in the middle of a messy divorce- so things are

getting delayed here. her jupiter is retro in the natal chart.since mars is

responsible for court cases- and her asc. is cancer- I asked her to recite

hanuman chalisa and to fast on the uppada days.I hope I did the right thing -

the only thing is even if one is a fledgling as far jyotish goes - no matter

how hard you explain- people end up thinking that you are the biggest

astrologer born.Don't want to incur bad karma.Ijust pray for her happiness and

peace.

 

thak you for allthe effort and your replies.

 

sincere regards,

anu.

 

Chandrashekhar Sharma

vedic astrology

Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:04 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Uppada when the spouse -dear Anu

Dear Anu,

If you have read my mail, you will find mention about Saturn-Marcury the enuchs.

So non consumation of marriage, was anyway indicated. For finding out the time

that her second marriage is likely to happen( if she has obtained divorce), I

have already given how to go about it. You can come to conclusion yourself. By

the way you have not indicated whether the 7th is conected with Saturn or

mercury.

Chandrashekhar.

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Om namah shivaya,

 

Chandrashekhar ji and partha ji,

 

Grateful for your prompt responses - however I feel that this is typical ctch 22

situation - The marriage was never consummated- pardon my putting it very

bluntly so how do we look at second marriage /or the second first marriage-

thae original UL or the 8th from it .wonder how I always end up getting stuck

at thse nuances.

 

thank you so much for your kind responses,

regards,

anu.

V.Partha sarathy

vedic astrology

Monday, June 30, 2003 9:59 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Uppada when the spouse -dear Anu

Om namah shivayaDear Anuthe second marriage is seen from the 2nd house, as it is

the 8th from the 7th(first marriage). It is also seen from 8th from first

Ul.here her first Ul is in Pisces, and thus libra would be the 2nd Ul.But for

fasting purposes she should fast on the lord of the first Ul only. Here it is

jupiter and thus it is Lord Sada Shiva on thursdays.Regardsparthaom tat sat---

In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel>

wrote:> Dear Anu,> About chanting of mantra, chanting the lord's name has never

hurt anybody.> About her problem from astrological point of view, there are two

ways to go about this. One is to treat 7th house as the house for indication of

marriage.There are some who think that second marriage should be seen from the

6th house from the 7th house i.e. the 12th house. Both the theories have their

merits.> In case of first , the marital happiness wrt spouse being seen from

the 7th house the reason is apparent.> In second case the second spouse is

treated the rival of first spouse.> I think the timing of the marriage should

be based on the Planets occupying the 7th, Lord of the 7th, planets aspecting

the 7th and planets having relationship with 7th, like the Karaka, sign

dispositor etc; to arrive at the probable Maha Antar dashas. Gochar movements

of Jupiter wrt to 7th house should be looked into for its beneficial relation

to the 7th or 1st house to get the narrower timeframe within the Maha Antar

period.> I suppose the girl's 7th house is connected with saturn/Mercury

afflicted, given her first husband's inclinations.> Find out which amongst

Venus and Mars is benefic for her ascendant and ask her to fast on its

weekday+recite its mantra.> I hope this should help.> Chandrashekhar.> -----

Original Message ----- > anukochhar > To:

vedic astrology > Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:58 PM>

[vedic astrology] Uppada when the spouse is gay- for chandrashekharji

, vistiand everyone else - pl. respond.> > > jai sri krishna,> > Dear

chandrashekhar ji ,> pranaam,> > i need to thank you for answering my

query with regard to ketu in the uppada.> > I have a very dear friend - we

were together in college - just to tell you that we go back a long way.> >

she got married to a gay person who confessed this on the wedding night itself

and introduced her to his sexual partner of last 18 years- she divorced him

after much mental anguish and trauma.She is very intelligent and works as a

psychiatrist- a line she chose to pursue after her divorce.> > When I look at

her chart- - for the purposes of second marriage- do we consider 8th from the Ul

or theuppada lagna itself since there was no physical intimacy between the

couple.All that I have been able to learn is that one( even when one considers

second marriage) is supposed to fast on the day of the uppada lord- something

that I have have asked her to do.> can she chant om namo narayana? since her

uppada lord is jupiter and she is seeking the blessings of narayana -for

bringing her spouse to her.Beyond that I'm not capable of saying anything- Just

got stuck at the uppada bit.I'm not very knowledgable- just astudent.> >

looking forward to your guidance.> > regards,> anu> > Her details - D. O.

B. - 14th dec. 1964> time20:50> long-76E 25> > lat-30N 2> -----

Original Message ----- > Visti Larsen > To:

vedic astrology > Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:29 AM>

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > >

|Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Rani,> 1. This time you figure out the

answer. You need a place to start? Whats the difference between Rasi and

Navamsa? What should be seen in Rasi and what in Navamsa?> 2. Forget

kendra's, but do look for similar signs/planets. i.e. if Upapada is in scorpio

then possibility of marrying an Aries Lagna is also possible, as they are both

lorded by Mars.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original

Message ----- > raindancer_1998 > To:

vedic astrology > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:36 PM>

[vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > >

dear Visti, > > thanks! I've got two more questions: > > 1) do

these rules also hold for the navamsa chart of each person? as > in, can

we compare ULs etc of one person's navamsa chart to the > other person's

navamsa chart? or is this only for the rashi charts > of each party? > >

2) also, one of my original questions was: is the UL/Lagna >

trine/conj. rule from the kendra/kona logic? as in the gajakesari > yoga

(moon in kendra from jupiter makes the yoga, not just > conjunct)? > >

or is it just those *aspects* -- e.g., the conj. and trine. am I >

making any sense? > > thanks very much!> > rani.> > --- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote:>

> |Hare Rama Krishna|> > Dear Rao,> > i. First see the stronger

of the Upapada and its 7th. > > ii. The spouses lagna will be in trines

or joined the lord of > UL/7th, whichever is stronger.> > iii. The

planets in the equvalent trines/or joining the lord, can > moderate the

specific lagna.> > iv. You can use the same principle with Darapada and

other Arudha > Padas.> > v. Sometimes the spouses lagna doesn't

match with the Upapada, > instead it matches with the Darapada. These

marriages don't last.> > > > Best wishes> > Visti> >

---> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> > Bhagavad

Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > - >

> Rao Nemani > > > > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:14 PM> > Subject:

[vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > > >

> Dear Visti Ji,> > > > Can you please tell me the rules for

Upapada matching with the > > spouses lagna. > > > > Also

some references, where I can study more in detail regarding > this >

> topic.> > > > Thanks for your help in advance.> > >

> Regards> > Rao> > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > <vishnu@l...> > >

wrote:> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > > Dear Rani,> > >

The Upapada shows the person we will choose to marry, we will > >

choose no other, hence hopefully the Upapada matches with the > spouses >

> lagna, otherwise the marriage might not last, and the marriage >

could > > be considered as a mistake!> > > Best wishes> >

> Visti> > > ---> > > Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> > > Bhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > > iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > > - >

> > raindancer_1998 > > > To:

vedic astrology > > > Monday, June 23, 2003

11:50 PM> > > [vedic astrology] arudha understanding re

upapada> > > > > > > > > dear all, I was reading up

on the files attached here, > > specifically > > > > >

> the wonderful one on arudhapadas by Shri Sanjay Rath. and I > have >

> a > > > question regarding this excellent article and the

Arudhas. > > > > > > please bear with me and correct me if I

am wrong, but if > indeed > > the > > > Arudhas

represent maya, and the upapada is the *image* of > the > > >

husband of the wife (whether it is the lagna or the navamsa > > chart)

> > > then why should we place so much importance on upapada >

matching? > > > should we not just match the 7th house and the lagna

of each > > chart? > > > Am I being stupid and missing

something essential regarding > the > > > arudha padas and

their true importance? > > > > > > also, re the trine/opp --

the rule that states that --is it > > based > > > on

kendra/kona logic? if so, going from that, should the > square > >

also > > > not apply? > > > > > > many thanks for

listening. > > > > > > warm regards, > > > rani.>

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