Guest guest Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 Om namah shivaya Dear Anu the second marriage is seen from the 2nd house, as it is the 8th from the 7th(first marriage). It is also seen from 8th from first Ul. here her first Ul is in Pisces, and thus libra would be the 2nd Ul. But for fasting purposes she should fast on the lord of the first Ul only. Here it is jupiter and thus it is Lord Sada Shiva on thursdays. Regards partha om tat sat vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Anu, > About chanting of mantra, chanting the lord's name has never hurt anybody. > About her problem from astrological point of view, there are two ways to go about this. One is to treat 7th house as the house for indication of marriage.There are some who think that second marriage should be seen from the 6th house from the 7th house i.e. the 12th house. Both the theories have their merits. > In case of first , the marital happiness wrt spouse being seen from the 7th house the reason is apparent. > In second case the second spouse is treated the rival of first spouse. > I think the timing of the marriage should be based on the Planets occupying the 7th, Lord of the 7th, planets aspecting the 7th and planets having relationship with 7th, like the Karaka, sign dispositor etc; to arrive at the probable Maha Antar dashas. Gochar movements of Jupiter wrt to 7th house should be looked into for its beneficial relation to the 7th or 1st house to get the narrower timeframe within the Maha Antar period. > I suppose the girl's 7th house is connected with saturn/Mercury afflicted, given her first husband's inclinations. > Find out which amongst Venus and Mars is benefic for her ascendant and ask her to fast on its weekday+recite its mantra. > I hope this should help. > Chandrashekhar. > - > anukochhar > vedic astrology > Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:58 PM > [vedic astrology] Uppada when the spouse is gay- for chandrashekharji , vistiand everyone else - pl. respond. > > > jai sri krishna, > > Dear chandrashekhar ji , > pranaam, > > i need to thank you for answering my query with regard to ketu in the uppada. > > I have a very dear friend - we were together in college - just to tell you that we go back a long way. > > she got married to a gay person who confessed this on the wedding night itself and introduced her to his sexual partner of last 18 years- she divorced him after much mental anguish and trauma.She is very intelligent and works as a psychiatrist- a line she chose to pursue after her divorce. > > When I look at her chart- - for the purposes of second marriage- do we consider 8th from the Ul or theuppada lagna itself since there was no physical intimacy between the couple.All that I have been able to learn is that one( even when one considers second marriage) is supposed to fast on the day of the uppada lord- something that I have have asked her to do. > can she chant om namo narayana? since her uppada lord is jupiter and she is seeking the blessings of narayana -for bringing her spouse to her.Beyond that I'm not capable of saying anything- Just got stuck at the uppada bit.I'm not very knowledgable- just astudent. > > looking forward to your guidance. > > regards, > anu > > Her details - D. O. B. - 14th dec. 1964 > time20:50 > long-76E 25 > > lat-30N 2 > - > Visti Larsen > vedic astrology > Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:29 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada > > > |Hare Rama Krishna| > Dear Rani, > 1. This time you figure out the answer. You need a place to start? Whats the difference between Rasi and Navamsa? What should be seen in Rasi and what in Navamsa? > 2. Forget kendra's, but do look for similar signs/planets. i.e. if Upapada is in scorpio then possibility of marrying an Aries Lagna is also possible, as they are both lorded by Mars. > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > - > raindancer_1998 > vedic astrology > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:36 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada > > > dear Visti, > > thanks! I've got two more questions: > > 1) do these rules also hold for the navamsa chart of each person? as > in, can we compare ULs etc of one person's navamsa chart to the > other person's navamsa chart? or is this only for the rashi charts > of each party? > > 2) also, one of my original questions was: is the UL/Lagna > trine/conj. rule from the kendra/kona logic? as in the gajakesari > yoga (moon in kendra from jupiter makes the yoga, not just > conjunct)? > > or is it just those *aspects* -- e.g., the conj. and trine. am I > making any sense? > > thanks very much! > > rani. > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krishna| > > Dear Rao, > > i. First see the stronger of the Upapada and its 7th. > > ii. The spouses lagna will be in trines or joined the lord of > UL/7th, whichever is stronger. > > iii. The planets in the equvalent trines/or joining the lord, can > moderate the specific lagna. > > iv. You can use the same principle with Darapada and other Arudha > Padas. > > v. Sometimes the spouses lagna doesn't match with the Upapada, > instead it matches with the Darapada. These marriages don't last. > > > > Best wishes > > Visti > > --- > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > > - > > Rao Nemani > > > > vedic astrology > > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:14 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada > > > > > > Dear Visti Ji, > > > > Can you please tell me the rules for Upapada matching with the > > spouses lagna. > > > > Also some references, where I can study more in detail regarding > this > > topic. > > > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > > > Regards > > Rao > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > <vishnu@l...> > > wrote: > > > |Hare Rama Krishna| > > > Dear Rani, > > > The Upapada shows the person we will choose to marry, we will > > choose no other, hence hopefully the Upapada matches with the > spouses > > lagna, otherwise the marriage might not last, and the marriage > could > > be considered as a mistake! > > > Best wishes > > > Visti > > > --- > > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > > > - > > > raindancer_1998 > > > vedic astrology > > > Monday, June 23, 2003 11:50 PM > > > [vedic astrology] arudha understanding re upapada > > > > > > > > > dear all, I was reading up on the files attached here, > > specifically > > > > > > the wonderful one on arudhapadas by Shri Sanjay Rath. and I > have > > a > > > question regarding this excellent article and the Arudhas. > > > > > > please bear with me and correct me if I am wrong, but if > indeed > > the > > > Arudhas represent maya, and the upapada is the *image* of > the > > > husband of the wife (whether it is the lagna or the navamsa > > chart) > > > then why should we place so much importance on upapada > matching? > > > should we not just match the 7th house and the lagna of each > > chart? > > > Am I being stupid and missing something essential regarding > the > > > arudha padas and their true importance? > > > > > > also, re the trine/opp -- the rule that states that -- is it > > based > > > on kendra/kona logic? if so, going from that, should the > square > > also > > > not apply? > > > > > > many thanks for listening. > > > > > > warm regards, > > > rani. > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 Om namah shivaya, Chandrashekhar ji and partha ji, Grateful for your prompt responses - however I feel that this is typical ctch 22 situation - The marriage was never consummated- pardon my putting it very bluntly so how do we look at second marriage /or the second first marriage- thae original UL or the 8th from it .wonder how I always end up getting stuck at thse nuances. thank you so much for your kind responses, regards, anu. V.Partha sarathy vedic astrology Monday, June 30, 2003 9:59 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Uppada when the spouse -dear Anu Om namah shivayaDear Anuthe second marriage is seen from the 2nd house, as it is the 8th from the 7th(first marriage). It is also seen from 8th from first Ul.here her first Ul is in Pisces, and thus libra would be the 2nd Ul.But for fasting purposes she should fast on the lord of the first Ul only. Here it is jupiter and thus it is Lord Sada Shiva on thursdays.Regardsparthaom tat sat--- In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Anu,> About chanting of mantra, chanting the lord's name has never hurt anybody.> About her problem from astrological point of view, there are two ways to go about this. One is to treat 7th house as the house for indication of marriage.There are some who think that second marriage should be seen from the 6th house from the 7th house i.e. the 12th house. Both the theories have their merits.> In case of first , the marital happiness wrt spouse being seen from the 7th house the reason is apparent.> In second case the second spouse is treated the rival of first spouse.> I think the timing of the marriage should be based on the Planets occupying the 7th, Lord of the 7th, planets aspecting the 7th and planets having relationship with 7th, like the Karaka, sign dispositor etc; to arrive at the probable Maha Antar dashas. Gochar movements of Jupiter wrt to 7th house should be looked into for its beneficial relation to the 7th or 1st house to get the narrower timeframe within the Maha Antar period.> I suppose the girl's 7th house is connected with saturn/Mercury afflicted, given her first husband's inclinations.> Find out which amongst Venus and Mars is benefic for her ascendant and ask her to fast on its weekday+recite its mantra.> I hope this should help.> Chandrashekhar.> ----- Original Message ----- > anukochhar > To: vedic astrology > Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:58 PM> [vedic astrology] Uppada when the spouse is gay- for chandrashekharji , vistiand everyone else - pl. respond.> > > jai sri krishna,> > Dear chandrashekhar ji ,> pranaam,> > i need to thank you for answering my query with regard to ketu in the uppada.> > I have a very dear friend - we were together in college - just to tell you that we go back a long way.> > she got married to a gay person who confessed this on the wedding night itself and introduced her to his sexual partner of last 18 years- she divorced him after much mental anguish and trauma.She is very intelligent and works as a psychiatrist- a line she chose to pursue after her divorce.> > When I look at her chart- - for the purposes of second marriage- do we consider 8th from the Ul or theuppada lagna itself since there was no physical intimacy between the couple.All that I have been able to learn is that one( even when one considers second marriage) is supposed to fast on the day of the uppada lord- something that I have have asked her to do.> can she chant om namo narayana? since her uppada lord is jupiter and she is seeking the blessings of narayana -for bringing her spouse to her.Beyond that I'm not capable of saying anything- Just got stuck at the uppada bit.I'm not very knowledgable- just astudent.> > looking forward to your guidance.> > regards,> anu> > Her details - D. O. B. - 14th dec. 1964> time20:50> long-76E 25> > lat-30N 2> ----- Original Message ----- > Visti Larsen > To: vedic astrology > Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:29 AM> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Rani,> 1. This time you figure out the answer. You need a place to start? Whats the difference between Rasi and Navamsa? What should be seen in Rasi and what in Navamsa?> 2. Forget kendra's, but do look for similar signs/planets. i.e. if Upapada is in scorpio then possibility of marrying an Aries Lagna is also possible, as they are both lorded by Mars.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message ----- > raindancer_1998 > To: vedic astrology > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:36 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > dear Visti, > > thanks! I've got two more questions: > > 1) do these rules also hold for the navamsa chart of each person? as > in, can we compare ULs etc of one person's navamsa chart to the > other person's navamsa chart? or is this only for the rashi charts > of each party? > > 2) also, one of my original questions was: is the UL/Lagna > trine/conj. rule from the kendra/kona logic? as in the gajakesari > yoga (moon in kendra from jupiter makes the yoga, not just > conjunct)? > > or is it just those *aspects* -- e.g., the conj. and trine. am I > making any sense? > > thanks very much!> > rani.> > --- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote:> > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > Dear Rao,> > i. First see the stronger of the Upapada and its 7th. > > ii. The spouses lagna will be in trines or joined the lord of > UL/7th, whichever is stronger.> > iii. The planets in the equvalent trines/or joining the lord, can > moderate the specific lagna.> > iv. You can use the same principle with Darapada and other Arudha > Padas.> > v. Sometimes the spouses lagna doesn't match with the Upapada, > instead it matches with the Darapada. These marriages don't last.> > > > Best wishes> > Visti> > ---> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > - > > Rao Nemani > > > > vedic astrology > > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:14 PM> > Subject: [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > > > > Dear Visti Ji,> > > > Can you please tell me the rules for Upapada matching with the > > spouses lagna. > > > > Also some references, where I can study more in detail regarding > this > > topic.> > > > Thanks for your help in advance.> > > > Regards> > Rao> > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > <vishnu@l...> > > wrote:> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > > Dear Rani,> > > The Upapada shows the person we will choose to marry, we will > > choose no other, hence hopefully the Upapada matches with the > spouses > > lagna, otherwise the marriage might not last, and the marriage > could > > be considered as a mistake!> > > Best wishes> > > Visti> > > ---> > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > > - > > > raindancer_1998 > > > To: vedic astrology > > > Monday, June 23, 2003 11:50 PM> > > [vedic astrology] arudha understanding re upapada> > > > > > > > > dear all, I was reading up on the files attached here, > > specifically > > > > > > the wonderful one on arudhapadas by Shri Sanjay Rath. and I > have > > a > > > question regarding this excellent article and the Arudhas. > > > > > > please bear with me and correct me if I am wrong, but if > indeed > > the > > > Arudhas represent maya, and the upapada is the *image* of > the > > > husband of the wife (whether it is the lagna or the navamsa > > chart) > > > then why should we place so much importance on upapada > matching? > > > should we not just match the 7th house and the lagna of each > > chart? > > > Am I being stupid and missing something essential regarding > the > > > arudha padas and their true importance? > > > > > > also, re the trine/opp -- the rule that states that --is it > > based > > > on kendra/kona logic? if so, going from that, should the > square > > also > > > not apply? > > > > > > many thanks for listening. > > > > > > warm regards, > > > rani.> > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > ........ 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Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 Om namah shivaya Dear Anu The second marriage is seen from 8th from first UL. That means Ul2 should be seen for the charecteristics and other related issues for the second spouse. regrds partha om tat sat vedic astrology, "anukochhar" <anukochhar11@s...> wrote: > Om namah shivaya, > > Chandrashekhar ji and partha ji, > > Grateful for your prompt responses - however I feel that this is typical ctch 22 situation - The marriage was never consummated- pardon my putting it very bluntly so how do we look at second marriage /or the second first marriage- thae original UL or the 8th from it .wonder how I always end up getting stuck at thse nuances. > > thank you so much for your kind responses, > regards, > anu. > V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Monday, June 30, 2003 9:59 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Uppada when the spouse -dear Anu > > > Om namah shivaya > > Dear Anu > > the second marriage is seen from the 2nd house, as it is the 8th from > the 7th(first marriage). It is also seen from 8th from first Ul. > here her first Ul is in Pisces, and thus libra would be the 2nd Ul. > But for fasting purposes she should fast on the lord of the first Ul > only. Here it is jupiter and thus it is Lord Sada Shiva on thursdays. > Regards > partha > om tat sat > > > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" > <boxdel> wrote: > > Dear Anu, > > About chanting of mantra, chanting the lord's name has never hurt > anybody. > > About her problem from astrological point of view, there are two > ways to go about this. One is to treat 7th house as the house for > indication of marriage.There are some who think that second marriage > should be seen from the 6th house from the 7th house i.e. the 12th > house. Both the theories have their merits. > > In case of first , the marital happiness wrt spouse being seen from > the 7th house the reason is apparent. > > In second case the second spouse is treated the rival of first > spouse. > > I think the timing of the marriage should be based on the Planets > occupying the 7th, Lord of the 7th, planets aspecting the 7th and > planets having relationship with 7th, like the Karaka, sign > dispositor etc; to arrive at the probable Maha Antar dashas. Gochar > movements of Jupiter wrt to 7th house should be looked into for its > beneficial relation to the 7th or 1st house to get the narrower > timeframe within the Maha Antar period. > > I suppose the girl's 7th house is connected with saturn/Mercury > afflicted, given her first husband's inclinations. > > Find out which amongst Venus and Mars is benefic for her ascendant > and ask her to fast on its weekday+recite its mantra. > > I hope this should help. > > Chandrashekhar. > > - > > anukochhar > > vedic astrology > > Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:58 PM > > [vedic astrology] Uppada when the spouse is gay- for > chandrashekharji , vistiand everyone else - pl. respond. > > > > > > jai sri krishna, > > > > Dear chandrashekhar ji , > > pranaam, > > > > i need to thank you for answering my query with regard to ketu > in the uppada. > > > > I have a very dear friend - we were together in college - just to > tell you that we go back a long way. > > > > she got married to a gay person who confessed this on the wedding > night itself and introduced her to his sexual partner of last 18 > years- she divorced him after much mental anguish and trauma.She is > very intelligent and works as a psychiatrist- a line she chose to > pursue after her divorce. > > > > When I look at her chart- - for the purposes of second marriage- > do we consider 8th from the Ul or theuppada lagna itself since there > was no physical intimacy between the couple.All that I have been able > to learn is that one( even when one considers second marriage) is > supposed to fast on the day of the uppada lord- something that I have > have asked her to do. > > can she chant om namo narayana? since her uppada lord is jupiter > and she is seeking the blessings of narayana -for bringing her spouse > to her.Beyond that I'm not capable of saying anything- Just got stuck > at the uppada bit.I'm not very knowledgable- just astudent. > > > > looking forward to your guidance. > > > > regards, > > anu > > > > Her details - D. O. B. - 14th dec. 1964 > > time20:50 > > long-76E 25 > > > > lat-30N 2 > > - > > Visti Larsen > > vedic astrology > > Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:29 AM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re > upapada > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krishna| > > Dear Rani, > > 1. This time you figure out the answer. You need a place to > start? Whats the difference between Rasi and Navamsa? What should be > seen in Rasi and what in Navamsa? > > 2. Forget kendra's, but do look for similar signs/planets. i.e. > if Upapada is in scorpio then possibility of marrying an Aries Lagna > is also possible, as they are both lorded by Mars. > > Best wishes > > Visti > > --- > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > > - > > raindancer_1998 > > vedic astrology > > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:36 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada > > > > > > dear Visti, > > > > thanks! I've got two more questions: > > > > 1) do these rules also hold for the navamsa chart of each > person? as > > in, can we compare ULs etc of one person's navamsa chart to > the > > other person's navamsa chart? or is this only for the rashi > charts > > of each party? > > > > 2) also, one of my original questions was: is the UL/Lagna > > trine/conj. rule from the kendra/kona logic? as in the > gajakesari > > yoga (moon in kendra from jupiter makes the yoga, not just > > conjunct)? > > > > or is it just those *aspects* -- e.g., the conj. and trine. > am I > > making any sense? > > > > thanks very much! > > > > rani. > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > <vishnu@l...> > > wrote: > > > |Hare Rama Krishna| > > > Dear Rao, > > > i. First see the stronger of the Upapada and its 7th. > > > ii. The spouses lagna will be in trines or joined the lord > of > > UL/7th, whichever is stronger. > > > iii. The planets in the equvalent trines/or joining the > lord, can > > moderate the specific lagna. > > > iv. You can use the same principle with Darapada and other > Arudha > > Padas. > > > v. Sometimes the spouses lagna doesn't match with the > Upapada, > > instead it matches with the Darapada. These marriages don't > last. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Visti > > > --- > > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > > > - > > > Rao Nemani > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:14 PM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re > upapada > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti Ji, > > > > > > Can you please tell me the rules for Upapada matching > with the > > > spouses lagna. > > > > > > Also some references, where I can study more in detail > regarding > > this > > > topic. > > > > > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > > > > > Regards > > > Rao > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > > <vishnu@l...> > > > wrote: > > > > |Hare Rama Krishna| > > > > Dear Rani, > > > > The Upapada shows the person we will choose to marry, > we will > > > choose no other, hence hopefully the Upapada matches with > the > > spouses > > > lagna, otherwise the marriage might not last, and the > marriage > > could > > > be considered as a mistake! > > > > Best wishes > > > > Visti > > > > --- > > > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > > > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > > > > - > > > > raindancer_1998 > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Monday, June 23, 2003 11:50 PM > > > > [vedic astrology] arudha understanding re > upapada > > > > > > > > > > > > dear all, I was reading up on the files attached > here, > > > specifically > > > > > > > > the wonderful one on arudhapadas by Shri Sanjay Rath. > and I > > have > > > a > > > > question regarding this excellent article and the > Arudhas. > > > > > > > > please bear with me and correct me if I am wrong, but > if > > indeed > > > the > > > > Arudhas represent maya, and the upapada is the > *image* of > > the > > > > husband of the wife (whether it is the lagna or the > navamsa > > > chart) > > > > then why should we place so much importance on > upapada > > matching? > > > > should we not just match the 7th house and the lagna > of each > > > chart? > > > > Am I being stupid and missing something essential > regarding > > the > > > > arudha padas and their true importance? > > > > > > > > also, re the trine/opp -- the rule that states that -- > is it > > > based > > > > on kendra/kona logic? if so, going from that, should > the > > square > > > also > > > > not apply? > > > > > > > > many thanks for listening. > > > > > > > > warm regards, > > > > rani. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic- astrology > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Terms > of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 Dear Anu, If you have read my mail, you will find mention about Saturn-Marcury the enuchs. So non consumation of marriage, was anyway indicated. For finding out the time that her second marriage is likely to happen( if she has obtained divorce), I have already given how to go about it. You can come to conclusion yourself. By the way you have not indicated whether the 7th is conected with Saturn or mercury. Chandrashekhar. ---- Om namah shivaya, Chandrashekhar ji and partha ji, Grateful for your prompt responses - however I feel that this is typical ctch 22 situation - The marriage was never consummated- pardon my putting it very bluntly so how do we look at second marriage /or the second first marriage- thae original UL or the 8th from it .wonder how I always end up getting stuck at thse nuances. thank you so much for your kind responses, regards, anu. V.Partha sarathy vedic astrology Monday, June 30, 2003 9:59 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Uppada when the spouse -dear Anu Om namah shivayaDear Anuthe second marriage is seen from the 2nd house, as it is the 8th from the 7th(first marriage). It is also seen from 8th from first Ul.here her first Ul is in Pisces, and thus libra would be the 2nd Ul.But for fasting purposes she should fast on the lord of the first Ul only. Here it is jupiter and thus it is Lord Sada Shiva on thursdays.Regardsparthaom tat sat--- In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Anu,> About chanting of mantra, chanting the lord's name has never hurt anybody.> About her problem from astrological point of view, there are two ways to go about this. One is to treat 7th house as the house for indication of marriage.There are some who think that second marriage should be seen from the 6th house from the 7th house i.e. the 12th house. Both the theories have their merits.> In case of first , the marital happiness wrt spouse being seen from the 7th house the reason is apparent.> In second case the second spouse is treated the rival of first spouse.> I think the timing of the marriage should be based on the Planets occupying the 7th, Lord of the 7th, planets aspecting the 7th and planets having relationship with 7th, like the Karaka, sign dispositor etc; to arrive at the probable Maha Antar dashas. Gochar movements of Jupiter wrt to 7th house should be looked into for its beneficial relation to the 7th or 1st house to get the narrower timeframe within the Maha Antar period.> I suppose the girl's 7th house is connected with saturn/Mercury afflicted, given her first husband's inclinations.> Find out which amongst Venus and Mars is benefic for her ascendant and ask her to fast on its weekday+recite its mantra.> I hope this should help.> Chandrashekhar.> ----- Original Message ----- > anukochhar > To: vedic astrology > Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:58 PM> [vedic astrology] Uppada when the spouse is gay- for chandrashekharji , vistiand everyone else - pl. respond.> > > jai sri krishna,> > Dear chandrashekhar ji ,> pranaam,> > i need to thank you for answering my query with regard to ketu in the uppada.> > I have a very dear friend - we were together in college - just to tell you that we go back a long way.> > she got married to a gay person who confessed this on the wedding night itself and introduced her to his sexual partner of last 18 years- she divorced him after much mental anguish and trauma.She is very intelligent and works as a psychiatrist- a line she chose to pursue after her divorce.> > When I look at her chart- - for the purposes of second marriage- do we consider 8th from the Ul or theuppada lagna itself since there was no physical intimacy between the couple.All that I have been able to learn is that one( even when one considers second marriage) is supposed to fast on the day of the uppada lord- something that I have have asked her to do.> can she chant om namo narayana? since her uppada lord is jupiter and she is seeking the blessings of narayana -for bringing her spouse to her.Beyond that I'm not capable of saying anything- Just got stuck at the uppada bit.I'm not very knowledgable- just astudent.> > looking forward to your guidance.> > regards,> anu> > Her details - D. O. B. - 14th dec. 1964> time20:50> long-76E 25> > lat-30N 2> ----- Original Message ----- > Visti Larsen > To: vedic astrology > Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:29 AM> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Rani,> 1. This time you figure out the answer. You need a place to start? Whats the difference between Rasi and Navamsa? What should be seen in Rasi and what in Navamsa?> 2. Forget kendra's, but do look for similar signs/planets. i.e. if Upapada is in scorpio then possibility of marrying an Aries Lagna is also possible, as they are both lorded by Mars.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message ----- > raindancer_1998 > To: vedic astrology > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:36 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > dear Visti, > > thanks! I've got two more questions: > > 1) do these rules also hold for the navamsa chart of each person? as > in, can we compare ULs etc of one person's navamsa chart to the > other person's navamsa chart? or is this only for the rashi charts > of each party? > > 2) also, one of my original questions was: is the UL/Lagna > trine/conj. rule from the kendra/kona logic? as in the gajakesari > yoga (moon in kendra from jupiter makes the yoga, not just > conjunct)? > > or is it just those *aspects* -- e.g., the conj. and trine. am I > making any sense? > > thanks very much!> > rani.> > --- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote:> > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > Dear Rao,> > i. First see the stronger of the Upapada and its 7th. > > ii. The spouses lagna will be in trines or joined the lord of > UL/7th, whichever is stronger.> > iii. The planets in the equvalent trines/or joining the lord, can > moderate the specific lagna.> > iv. You can use the same principle with Darapada and other Arudha > Padas.> > v. Sometimes the spouses lagna doesn't match with the Upapada, > instead it matches with the Darapada. These marriages don't last.> > > > Best wishes> > Visti> > ---> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > - > > Rao Nemani > > > > vedic astrology > > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:14 PM> > Subject: [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > > > > Dear Visti Ji,> > > > Can you please tell me the rules for Upapada matching with the > > spouses lagna. > > > > Also some references, where I can study more in detail regarding > this > > topic.> > > > Thanks for your help in advance.> > > > Regards> > Rao> > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > <vishnu@l...> > > wrote:> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > > Dear Rani,> > > The Upapada shows the person we will choose to marry, we will > > choose no other, hence hopefully the Upapada matches with the > spouses > > lagna, otherwise the marriage might not last, and the marriage > could > > be considered as a mistake!> > > Best wishes> > > Visti> > > ---> > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > > - > > > raindancer_1998 > > > To: vedic astrology > > > Monday, June 23, 2003 11:50 PM> > > [vedic astrology] arudha understanding re upapada> > > > > > > > > dear all, I was reading up on the files attached here, > > specifically > > > > > > the wonderful one on arudhapadas by Shri Sanjay Rath. and I > have > > a > > > question regarding this excellent article and the Arudhas. > > > > > > please bear with me and correct me if I am wrong, but if > indeed > > the > > > Arudhas represent maya, and the upapada is the *image* of > the > > > husband of the wife (whether it is the lagna or the navamsa > > chart) > > > then why should we place so much importance on upapada > matching? > > > should we not just match the 7th house and the lagna of each > > chart? > > > Am I being stupid and missing something essential regarding > the > > > arudha padas and their true importance? > > > > > > also, re the trine/opp -- the rule that states that --is it > > based > > > on kendra/kona logic? if so, going from that, should the > square > > also > > > not apply? > > > > > > many thanks for listening. > > > > > > warm regards, > > > rani.> > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > ........ 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Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Jai sri Ram, Dear chandrashekhar ji , pranaam, Yes, The seventh house( idon't know how I forgot to mention it- I seem to be writing all my mails in hurry and in order to make them short - skip so many details) lord Sat. is in the 8th and 6th has a retro mercury- a neuter. Jupiter at present is aspecting her Asc.- she has met someone very eligible and so perfect for her- he is in the middle of a messy divorce- so things are getting delayed here. her jupiter is retro in the natal chart.since mars is responsible for court cases- and her asc. is cancer- I asked her to recite hanuman chalisa and to fast on the uppada days.I hope I did the right thing - the only thing is even if one is a fledgling as far jyotish goes - no matter how hard you explain- people end up thinking that you are the biggest astrologer born.Don't want to incur bad karma.Ijust pray for her happiness and peace. thak you for allthe effort and your replies. sincere regards, anu. Chandrashekhar Sharma vedic astrology Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:04 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Uppada when the spouse -dear Anu Dear Anu, If you have read my mail, you will find mention about Saturn-Marcury the enuchs. So non consumation of marriage, was anyway indicated. For finding out the time that her second marriage is likely to happen( if she has obtained divorce), I have already given how to go about it. You can come to conclusion yourself. By the way you have not indicated whether the 7th is conected with Saturn or mercury. Chandrashekhar. ---- Om namah shivaya, Chandrashekhar ji and partha ji, Grateful for your prompt responses - however I feel that this is typical ctch 22 situation - The marriage was never consummated- pardon my putting it very bluntly so how do we look at second marriage /or the second first marriage- thae original UL or the 8th from it .wonder how I always end up getting stuck at thse nuances. thank you so much for your kind responses, regards, anu. V.Partha sarathy vedic astrology Monday, June 30, 2003 9:59 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Uppada when the spouse -dear Anu Om namah shivayaDear Anuthe second marriage is seen from the 2nd house, as it is the 8th from the 7th(first marriage). It is also seen from 8th from first Ul.here her first Ul is in Pisces, and thus libra would be the 2nd Ul.But for fasting purposes she should fast on the lord of the first Ul only. Here it is jupiter and thus it is Lord Sada Shiva on thursdays.Regardsparthaom tat sat--- In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Anu,> About chanting of mantra, chanting the lord's name has never hurt anybody.> About her problem from astrological point of view, there are two ways to go about this. One is to treat 7th house as the house for indication of marriage.There are some who think that second marriage should be seen from the 6th house from the 7th house i.e. the 12th house. Both the theories have their merits.> In case of first , the marital happiness wrt spouse being seen from the 7th house the reason is apparent.> In second case the second spouse is treated the rival of first spouse.> I think the timing of the marriage should be based on the Planets occupying the 7th, Lord of the 7th, planets aspecting the 7th and planets having relationship with 7th, like the Karaka, sign dispositor etc; to arrive at the probable Maha Antar dashas. Gochar movements of Jupiter wrt to 7th house should be looked into for its beneficial relation to the 7th or 1st house to get the narrower timeframe within the Maha Antar period.> I suppose the girl's 7th house is connected with saturn/Mercury afflicted, given her first husband's inclinations.> Find out which amongst Venus and Mars is benefic for her ascendant and ask her to fast on its weekday+recite its mantra.> I hope this should help.> Chandrashekhar.> ----- Original Message ----- > anukochhar > To: vedic astrology > Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:58 PM> [vedic astrology] Uppada when the spouse is gay- for chandrashekharji , vistiand everyone else - pl. respond.> > > jai sri krishna,> > Dear chandrashekhar ji ,> pranaam,> > i need to thank you for answering my query with regard to ketu in the uppada.> > I have a very dear friend - we were together in college - just to tell you that we go back a long way.> > she got married to a gay person who confessed this on the wedding night itself and introduced her to his sexual partner of last 18 years- she divorced him after much mental anguish and trauma.She is very intelligent and works as a psychiatrist- a line she chose to pursue after her divorce.> > When I look at her chart- - for the purposes of second marriage- do we consider 8th from the Ul or theuppada lagna itself since there was no physical intimacy between the couple.All that I have been able to learn is that one( even when one considers second marriage) is supposed to fast on the day of the uppada lord- something that I have have asked her to do.> can she chant om namo narayana? since her uppada lord is jupiter and she is seeking the blessings of narayana -for bringing her spouse to her.Beyond that I'm not capable of saying anything- Just got stuck at the uppada bit.I'm not very knowledgable- just astudent.> > looking forward to your guidance.> > regards,> anu> > Her details - D. O. B. - 14th dec. 1964> time20:50> long-76E 25> > lat-30N 2> ----- Original Message ----- > Visti Larsen > To: vedic astrology > Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:29 AM> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Rani,> 1. This time you figure out the answer. You need a place to start? Whats the difference between Rasi and Navamsa? What should be seen in Rasi and what in Navamsa?> 2. Forget kendra's, but do look for similar signs/planets. i.e. if Upapada is in scorpio then possibility of marrying an Aries Lagna is also possible, as they are both lorded by Mars.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message ----- > raindancer_1998 > To: vedic astrology > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:36 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > dear Visti, > > thanks! I've got two more questions: > > 1) do these rules also hold for the navamsa chart of each person? as > in, can we compare ULs etc of one person's navamsa chart to the > other person's navamsa chart? or is this only for the rashi charts > of each party? > > 2) also, one of my original questions was: is the UL/Lagna > trine/conj. rule from the kendra/kona logic? as in the gajakesari > yoga (moon in kendra from jupiter makes the yoga, not just > conjunct)? > > or is it just those *aspects* -- e.g., the conj. and trine. am I > making any sense? > > thanks very much!> > rani.> > --- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote:> > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > Dear Rao,> > i. First see the stronger of the Upapada and its 7th. > > ii. The spouses lagna will be in trines or joined the lord of > UL/7th, whichever is stronger.> > iii. The planets in the equvalent trines/or joining the lord, can > moderate the specific lagna.> > iv. You can use the same principle with Darapada and other Arudha > Padas.> > v. Sometimes the spouses lagna doesn't match with the Upapada, > instead it matches with the Darapada. These marriages don't last.> > > > Best wishes> > Visti> > ---> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > - > > Rao Nemani > > > > vedic astrology > > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:14 PM> > Subject: [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > > > > Dear Visti Ji,> > > > Can you please tell me the rules for Upapada matching with the > > spouses lagna. > > > > Also some references, where I can study more in detail regarding > this > > topic.> > > > Thanks for your help in advance.> > > > Regards> > Rao> > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > <vishnu@l...> > > wrote:> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > > Dear Rani,> > > The Upapada shows the person we will choose to marry, we will > > choose no other, hence hopefully the Upapada matches with the > spouses > > lagna, otherwise the marriage might not last, and the marriage > could > > be considered as a mistake!> > > Best wishes> > > Visti> > > ---> > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > > - > > > raindancer_1998 > > > To: vedic astrology > > > Monday, June 23, 2003 11:50 PM> > > [vedic astrology] arudha understanding re upapada> > > > > > > > > dear all, I was reading up on the files attached here, > > specifically > > > > > > the wonderful one on arudhapadas by Shri Sanjay Rath. and I > have > > a > > > question regarding this excellent article and the Arudhas. > > > > > > please bear with me and correct me if I am wrong, but if > indeed > > the > > > Arudhas represent maya, and the upapada is the *image* of > the > > > husband of the wife (whether it is the lagna or the navamsa > > chart) > > > then why should we place so much importance on upapada > matching? > > > should we not just match the 7th house and the lagna of each > > chart? > > > Am I being stupid and missing something essential regarding > the > > > arudha padas and their true importance? > > > > > > also, re the trine/opp -- the rule that states that --is it > > based > > > on kendra/kona logic? if so, going from that, should the > square > > also > > > not apply? > > > > > > many thanks for listening. > > > > > > warm regards, > > > rani.> > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > ........ 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Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Dear Anu, It never hurts anyone to recite the lord's name, so do not worry on that count. If possible try to check her fiancee's horoscope to find out whether they are compatible, so that your friend does not suffer. I personally think, that as far as the intention is to help others one does not attract bad karma. You have a helping nature and therefore do not feel awkward if someone looks up to you, for helping one. Let us hope your friend finds happiness. Chandrashekhar. ---- Jai sri Ram, Dear chandrashekhar ji , pranaam, Yes, The seventh house( idon't know how I forgot to mention it- I seem to be writing all my mails in hurry and in order to make them short - skip so many details) lord Sat. is in the 8th and 6th has a retro mercury- a neuter. Jupiter at present is aspecting her Asc.- she has met someone very eligible and so perfect for her- he is in the middle of a messy divorce- so things are getting delayed here. her jupiter is retro in the natal chart.since mars is responsible for court cases- and her asc. is cancer- I asked her to recite hanuman chalisa and to fast on the uppada days.I hope I did the right thing - the only thing is even if one is a fledgling as far jyotish goes - no matter how hard you explain- people end up thinking that you are the biggest astrologer born.Don't want to incur bad karma.Ijust pray for her happiness and peace. thak you for allthe effort and your replies. sincere regards, anu. Chandrashekhar Sharma vedic astrology Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:04 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Uppada when the spouse -dear Anu Dear Anu, If you have read my mail, you will find mention about Saturn-Marcury the enuchs. So non consumation of marriage, was anyway indicated. For finding out the time that her second marriage is likely to happen( if she has obtained divorce), I have already given how to go about it. You can come to conclusion yourself. By the way you have not indicated whether the 7th is conected with Saturn or mercury. Chandrashekhar. ---- Om namah shivaya, Chandrashekhar ji and partha ji, Grateful for your prompt responses - however I feel that this is typical ctch 22 situation - The marriage was never consummated- pardon my putting it very bluntly so how do we look at second marriage /or the second first marriage- thae original UL or the 8th from it .wonder how I always end up getting stuck at thse nuances. thank you so much for your kind responses, regards, anu. V.Partha sarathy vedic astrology Monday, June 30, 2003 9:59 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Uppada when the spouse -dear Anu Om namah shivayaDear Anuthe second marriage is seen from the 2nd house, as it is the 8th from the 7th(first marriage). It is also seen from 8th from first Ul.here her first Ul is in Pisces, and thus libra would be the 2nd Ul.But for fasting purposes she should fast on the lord of the first Ul only. Here it is jupiter and thus it is Lord Sada Shiva on thursdays.Regardsparthaom tat sat--- In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Anu,> About chanting of mantra, chanting the lord's name has never hurt anybody.> About her problem from astrological point of view, there are two ways to go about this. One is to treat 7th house as the house for indication of marriage.There are some who think that second marriage should be seen from the 6th house from the 7th house i.e. the 12th house. Both the theories have their merits.> In case of first , the marital happiness wrt spouse being seen from the 7th house the reason is apparent.> In second case the second spouse is treated the rival of first spouse.> I think the timing of the marriage should be based on the Planets occupying the 7th, Lord of the 7th, planets aspecting the 7th and planets having relationship with 7th, like the Karaka, sign dispositor etc; to arrive at the probable Maha Antar dashas. Gochar movements of Jupiter wrt to 7th house should be looked into for its beneficial relation to the 7th or 1st house to get the narrower timeframe within the Maha Antar period.> I suppose the girl's 7th house is connected with saturn/Mercury afflicted, given her first husband's inclinations.> Find out which amongst Venus and Mars is benefic for her ascendant and ask her to fast on its weekday+recite its mantra.> I hope this should help.> Chandrashekhar.> ----- Original Message ----- > anukochhar > To: vedic astrology > Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:58 PM> [vedic astrology] Uppada when the spouse is gay- for chandrashekharji , vistiand everyone else - pl. respond.> > > jai sri krishna,> > Dear chandrashekhar ji ,> pranaam,> > i need to thank you for answering my query with regard to ketu in the uppada.> > I have a very dear friend - we were together in college - just to tell you that we go back a long way.> > she got married to a gay person who confessed this on the wedding night itself and introduced her to his sexual partner of last 18 years- she divorced him after much mental anguish and trauma.She is very intelligent and works as a psychiatrist- a line she chose to pursue after her divorce.> > When I look at her chart- - for the purposes of second marriage- do we consider 8th from the Ul or theuppada lagna itself since there was no physical intimacy between the couple.All that I have been able to learn is that one( even when one considers second marriage) is supposed to fast on the day of the uppada lord- something that I have have asked her to do.> can she chant om namo narayana? since her uppada lord is jupiter and she is seeking the blessings of narayana -for bringing her spouse to her.Beyond that I'm not capable of saying anything- Just got stuck at the uppada bit.I'm not very knowledgable- just astudent.> > looking forward to your guidance.> > regards,> anu> > Her details - D. O. B. - 14th dec. 1964> time20:50> long-76E 25> > lat-30N 2> ----- Original Message ----- > Visti Larsen > To: vedic astrology > Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:29 AM> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Rani,> 1. This time you figure out the answer. You need a place to start? Whats the difference between Rasi and Navamsa? What should be seen in Rasi and what in Navamsa?> 2. Forget kendra's, but do look for similar signs/planets. i.e. if Upapada is in scorpio then possibility of marrying an Aries Lagna is also possible, as they are both lorded by Mars.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message ----- > raindancer_1998 > To: vedic astrology > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:36 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > dear Visti, > > thanks! I've got two more questions: > > 1) do these rules also hold for the navamsa chart of each person? as > in, can we compare ULs etc of one person's navamsa chart to the > other person's navamsa chart? or is this only for the rashi charts > of each party? > > 2) also, one of my original questions was: is the UL/Lagna > trine/conj. rule from the kendra/kona logic? as in the gajakesari > yoga (moon in kendra from jupiter makes the yoga, not just > conjunct)? > > or is it just those *aspects* -- e.g., the conj. and trine. am I > making any sense? > > thanks very much!> > rani.> > --- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > wrote:> > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > Dear Rao,> > i. First see the stronger of the Upapada and its 7th. > > ii. The spouses lagna will be in trines or joined the lord of > UL/7th, whichever is stronger.> > iii. The planets in the equvalent trines/or joining the lord, can > moderate the specific lagna.> > iv. You can use the same principle with Darapada and other Arudha > Padas.> > v. Sometimes the spouses lagna doesn't match with the Upapada, > instead it matches with the Darapada. These marriages don't last.> > > > Best wishes> > Visti> > ---> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > - > > Rao Nemani > > > > vedic astrology > > Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:14 PM> > Subject: [vedic astrology] Re: arudha understanding re upapada> > > > > > Dear Visti Ji,> > > > Can you please tell me the rules for Upapada matching with the > > spouses lagna. > > > > Also some references, where I can study more in detail regarding > this > > topic.> > > > Thanks for your help in advance.> > > > Regards> > Rao> > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > <vishnu@l...> > > wrote:> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > > Dear Rani,> > > The Upapada shows the person we will choose to marry, we will > > choose no other, hence hopefully the Upapada matches with the > spouses > > lagna, otherwise the marriage might not last, and the marriage > could > > be considered as a mistake!> > > Best wishes> > > Visti> > > ---> > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > > - > > > raindancer_1998 > > > To: vedic astrology > > > Monday, June 23, 2003 11:50 PM> > > [vedic astrology] arudha understanding re upapada> > > > > > > > > dear all, I was reading up on the files attached here, > > specifically > > > > > > the wonderful one on arudhapadas by Shri Sanjay Rath. and I > have > > a > > > question regarding this excellent article and the Arudhas. > > > > > > please bear with me and correct me if I am wrong, but if > indeed > > the > > > Arudhas represent maya, and the upapada is the *image* of > the > > > husband of the wife (whether it is the lagna or the navamsa > > chart) > > > then why should we place so much importance on upapada > matching? > > > should we not just match the 7th house and the lagna of each > > chart? > > > Am I being stupid and missing something essential regarding > the > > > arudha padas and their true importance? > > > > > > also, re the trine/opp -- the rule that states that --is it > > based > > > on kendra/kona logic? if so, going from that, should the > square > > also > > > not apply? > > > > > > many thanks for listening. > > > > > > warm regards, > > > rani.> > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > ........ 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