Another view--some input

[Guest guest]

Hello Jay and other members:

 

Is there any way to invite Mr. Rohini Ranjan to this board. His

readings, writings and thinking related to Vedic astrology are the

most pragmatic I've ever seen. His writings exhude a certain

originality and freshnesh that just tickles the mind. Also, the great

thing about him is that he stays with the "original" priciples just

like Sanjay and PVR rather then invent "new" crap like the Systems

approach.

 

Mukund

 

vedic astrology, "J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:

> Dear list members,

>

> Today's morning email brought me among others one from the

old 'Jyotish list',

> that the Canadian astrologer Rohini Ranjan replied to ("subject:

Ashtakavarga

> useful tool or not").

> It is the second part that many may find interesting about

astrology in today's world.

>

> After some consideration I decided to share his mail with you (with

his permission),

> for the purpose of general information and view of just another

Vedic astrologer,

> who is not a member of this list.

>

> Kind regards

> Jay Weiss

>

> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

> I am really heartened by Shri Rao's message about ashtakavarga

being a

> useful tool. Statements from giants of his stature in modern

jyotish about a

> given technique or his endorsement of a software carry a lot of

weight in

> the modern quigmire that jyotish has become since its recent

revival mostly

> in and through the west (Praise the Lord Internet and pass on the

weed! I am

> sorry guys!!

>

> Truth be told, software produced in 80s and 90s some of which

simply died on

> the way, even though endorsed by Beacons of those times, died

because

> it was incorrect and inadequate BUT not necessarily unimportant!

Incorrect

> in simple baby algorithms like for shadbala, vimshopakbala.

calculation of

> longitudes! And when we get into more intricate things like dashaas

and

> Jaimini parameters on which even experts vary in opinions about how

to

> calculate, then we are entering a dark magical forest that is better

> illuminated by the words of Madame Rowlings with an active

imagination and

> all the jealousy surrounding her fame than someone as factual as

Einstein or

> Narlikar or maybe even by that Economist of the times, Allan

Greenspan who

> gets more immediate attention than Parashara or those consultants

who the

> software programmers were depending upon. I am sorry but if one

cannot get

> the simple phasic uchcha bala worked out in the first go or the

19th version

> for that matter, I wonder what else is going on!

>

> Jyotish of modern times, or even astrology in all its shades and

forms

> probably intensively touches the lives of a maximum of 100 million

in this

> world of 6.7 billions or more. Probably 100 times as many read their

> newspaper forecasts and move on to a cup of coffee at Tim Hortons or

> wherever -- GET real folks, they are NOT touched by astrology

regardless of

> what we think of their karma and spiritual elevation! Wake up to

the fact

> that t-h-a-t represents only about 2% of world's population. Even

if it were

> 10% -- half a billion, it would be an insignificant proportion of

the

> world's total current population! Astrology, in other words,

touches FAR

> less than 10% of humanity. Touches -- as in being significant

enough to

> actually change their lives or to make them e-v-e-n look at it

seriously.

> The statistics can be challenged to save face, but really something

that are

> for all of us astrologers to think about, and consider -- rightly or

> wrongly -- about the R-E-A-L impact of OUR love and life (One

thing no

> one will get an argument from me on is that we astrologers are one

dedicated

> bunch who really truly believe in what we believe in even if we

cannot

> prove it to others satisfactorily and that includes the guy

(strangely

> there have not been too many gals, other than K.N Saraswathy on the

jyotish

> scene but more on the western astrology side of things) who thinks

he has

> proved it to all for all times to come! Of course astrologers are

fully convinced, as

> individuals or as a collective group). Our 75 to 80 % claims of

success

> notwithstanding, some with the help of japa and yogic powers which

throw in yet

> another variable in the mix. The borscht tastes delicious and

fulfilling,

> but can it be sold as a written recipe, yet?

>

> None of us can entirely shed our biases of THIS lifetime and will

even

> justify those R-A-T-I-O-N-A-L-L-Y!

> But thanks to Ben and Charles and similar folks in cyber-reality,

we the

> minority (those who REALLY believe in astrology!) have this chance

to

> interact and progress, mostly individually. This is how it was

right from

> the beginning. Look at the very different and distinctive outlooks

expressed

> by Parashara, Varahamihira, Garga, Satya, Mukuna Vallabha, Kalidasa

(now he

> was one rebel!) and all others right through Raman, Seshadri Iyer

and KN Rao.

> What does it tell you? The facts are all there, but there is NO

ONE SINGLE

> INTERPRETATION, just a plethora of certificates and gurus and sub-

gurus by

> the dozen!

>

> The Hamilton project (cold, double blinded readings and test of

astrology) had

> attracted my attention and soul, but it did not last, because IMO

politics

> entered it and ruined the purpose. Who suffers in the end? Or

what??

>

> And everyone is right, of course!

>

> Jai Ram Ji ki!

>

> Rohiniranjan