Wedding time - To Sanjayji

July 18, 2003

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sanjayji,

[Then the Kshatriyas must marry near sunrise or very early in the morning,

the sudra at sunset and the Vaisya at midnight.]

Rama was married to Sita during an evening muhurata.

Sri Ramacharitamanasa "Childhood"

311.3 At length the propitous day of the wedding arrived; it was the delightful

month of Aaghana and the beginning of the cold season. Having carefully examined

and determined the propitious nature of the planets. date, asterism, the

conjunction of the stars, the day of the week and the hour of the wedding.

311.4 The Creator despatched the note concerning the hour of the wedding

through Narada; it was the very same calculation that Janaka's astrolgers

had already made. When all the people heard of this event, they observed,

"Why, our astrologers are also so many Creators!".

312 The most auspicious and sacred hour before sunset (which is the time

when cows generally return home from pasture, and is marked by clouds of

dust raised by their hoofs) arrived; perceiving propitious omens, the Brahmans

sent owrd to Janaka

312.1 The King said to Shatananda, the family priest, "What is now the cause

of delay?" Shatananda then summoned the ministers who came equipped with

all that was auspicious.

312.2 Then sounded a number of conches, drums and tabors and other instruments

of music and festal vases and objects of good omen such as curds, turmeric

and blades of durva grass were displayed. Graceful women (whose husbands

were alive) sang songs and holy Brhamanas intoned Vedic texts.

312.4 "The hour has come" they said, "be pleased to start". At this the drums

gave a thundering beat and after consulting Vasistha hsi Guru and performing

the family rites, Dasharatha set out with a host of sages and holy men.

313.1 Seeing the auspiciousness of the hour, the gods rained down flowers

and sounded their drums. Shiva and Brahma and hosts of other deities moounted

their chariots in several groups

313.2 and came to see Rama's wedding............

Best regards

Swee

swee (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net

www.brihaspati.net

July 18, 2003

Dear friends,

Thanks a lot Swee Ji,for reminding me something which I was told long time back.

GODHULI(which is the time when cows generally return home from pasture, and is

marked by clouds of dust raised by their hoofs)which as per my understanding is

as good as abhijit Muharta.

With regards,

Jagmeet

July 19, 2003

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July 19, 2003

Dear Sanjayji,

As far as I know Ksahtriyas have the Varamala exchange in evening but

marriage takesplace around midnight.

If I may add, the muhurtas selected appear to be more region specific than

caste specific.In northern states the muhurtas selected are of night time while

in the southern parts they are for morning. There is a very sound behind this

based on situation in these parts in ancient times. However you may think

differently.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Sanjay Rath [daivagyna (AT) sify (DOT) com]Sent:

Saturday, July 19, 2003 3:07 PMvedic astrologySubject: RE:

[vedic astrology] Re: Wedding time - To Sanjayji

Jaya Guru Dear Swee Am I going wrong in the order. Pisces, Aries, Taurus, Gemini

- Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya & sudra. So it can mean Midday, Evening, Midnight

and Early morning respectively. Thanks for the correction. Point is all this is

so lost as our culture seems to be getting destroyed. Your reading of the Purana

is very good thing and helps us to correct the anomalies.

In fact I know about Brahmana and Bania marriages as I have attended many of

them. Kshatriya's may not be following their ancient code and hence we do not

know for sure but based on the evidence of what you give, this has to be

evening, and the order is as above. That dictum is clear.

Yours truly, Sanjay Rath Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

E-mail: srath (AT) srath (DOT) com srath (AT) vsnl (DOT) com daivagyna (AT) sify (DOT) com

Web: http://srath.com http://.org

----~om tat sat~--------------

Swee Chan [swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm]Sent:

Saturday, July 19, 2003 3:25 AMvedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Re: Wedding time - To SanjayjiJaya JagannathaDear

Sanjayji,[Then the Kshatriyas must marry near sunrise or very early in the

morning, the sudra at sunset and the Vaisya at midnight.]Rama was married to

Sita during an evening muhurata.Sri Ramacharitamanasa "Childhood"311.3 At

length the propitous day of the wedding arrived; it was the delightful month of

Aaghana and the beginning of the cold season. Having carefully examined and

determined the propitious nature of the planets. date, asterism, the

conjunction of the stars, the day of the week and the hour of the wedding.311.4

The Creator despatched the note concerning the hour of the wedding through

Narada; it was the very same calculation that Janaka's astrolgers had already

made. When all the people heard of this event, they observed, "Why, our

astrologers are also so many Creators!".312 The most auspicious and sacred hour

before sunset (which is the time when cows generally return home from pasture,

and is marked by clouds of dust raised by their hoofs) arrived; perceiving

propitious omens, the Brahmans sent owrd to Janaka312.1 The King said to

Shatananda, the family priest, "What is now the cause of delay?" Shatananda

then summoned the ministers who came equipped with all that was

auspicious.312.2 Then sounded a number of conches, drums and tabors and other

instruments of music and festal vases and objects of good omen such as curds,

turmeric and blades of durva grass were displayed. Graceful women (whose

husbands were alive) sang songs and holy Brhamanas intoned Vedic texts.312.4

"The hour has come" they said, "be pleased to start". At this the drums gave a

thundering beat and after consulting Vasistha hsi Guru and performing the

family rites, Dasharatha set out with a host of sages and holy men.313.1 Seeing

the auspiciousness of the hour, the gods rained down flowers and sounded their

drums. Shiva and Brahma and hosts of other deities moounted their chariots in

several groups313.2 and came to see Rama's wedding............Best

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July 20, 2003

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July 20, 2003

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Sanjayji,

It will take me more than a few minutes to type out on the subject of

Vivahaprsna and Marriage from the Narada Purana. I shall mail this directly to

you.

Best regards,

Swee

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Sanjay Rath wrote:

Jaya Guru

Dear Chandrasekharji

Perhaps you are

right. We should also bear in mind that the north India has suffered

much more and has had to change many of its customs etc based on the

need of the day. Traditions have been kept alive in the east (Bengal),

south and some parts of the west like say Maharashtra. That is why I

feel that there maybe some more authentic logic to this than just selecting

any muhurta. Although your point is well taken and it is too late to

alter anything as convenience is more important for people to ensure

attendance.

This thread has

little relevance as we cannot alter anything and choosing a muhurta

will again require all the rules of muhurta to be obeyed. Again in real

life/practise, the best muhurta is very illusive and at most times I

give only that which seems to be the most helpful for the activity.

Evening is the

best time to attend and the kings must have reserved this for themselves...perhaps

that could be a reason. After everyone dined and enjoyed their social

exchanges they must have decided to tie the knot. That poor pandit would

have very little say.

Chandrasekharji,

what I am looking for is any reference to the best times during a day

for certain activities. Any references will help. This can be used to

make a very disciplined life and will of great help to every person.

if you come across something in this regard, please mail me.

Yours truly,

Sanjay Rath

Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

E-mail: srath (AT) srath (DOT) com srath (AT) vsnl (DOT) com daivagyna (AT) sify (DOT) com

Web: http://srath.com http://.org

----~om tat sat~--------------

Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk]

Sunday, July 20, 2003 1:39 AM

vedic astrology

RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Wedding time - To Sanjayji

Dear Sanjayji,

As far as I know Ksahtriyas have the Varamala exchange

in evening but marriage takesplace around midnight.

If I may add, the muhurtas selected appear to be

more region specific than caste specific.In northern states the muhurtas

selected are of night time while in the southern parts they are for morning.

There is a very sound behind this based on situation in these parts in ancient

times. However you may think differently.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Sanjay Rath [daivagyna (AT) sify (DOT) com]

Saturday, July 19, 2003 3:07 PM

vedic astrology

RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Wedding time - To Sanjayji

Jaya Guru

Dear Swee

Am I going wrong

in the order. Pisces, Aries, Taurus, Gemini - Brahmana, Kshatriya,

Vaisya & sudra. So it can mean Midday, Evening, Midnight and Early

morning respectively. Thanks for the correction. Point is all this

is so lost as our culture seems to be getting destroyed. Your reading

of the Purana is very good thing and helps us to correct the anomalies.

In fact I know

about Brahmana and Bania marriages as I have attended many of them.

Kshatriya's may not be following their ancient code and hence we do

not know for sure but based on the evidence of what you give, this

has to be evening, and the order is as above. That dictum is clear.

Yours truly,

Sanjay Rath

Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

E-mail: srath (AT) srath (DOT) com srath (AT) vsnl (DOT) com daivagyna (AT) sify (DOT) com

Web: http://srath.com http://.org

----~om tat sat~--------------

Swee Chan [swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm]

Saturday, July 19, 2003 3:25 AM

vedic astrology

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Wedding time - To Sanjayji

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sanjayji,

[Then the Kshatriyas must marry near sunrise or very early in the morning,

the sudra at sunset and the Vaisya at midnight.]

Rama was married to Sita during an evening muhurata.

Sri Ramacharitamanasa "Childhood"

311.3 At length the propitous day of the wedding arrived; it was the delightful

month of Aaghana and the beginning of the cold season. Having carefully

examined and determined the propitious nature of the planets. date, asterism,

the conjunction of the stars, the day of the week and the hour of the

wedding.

311.4 The Creator despatched the note concerning the hour of the wedding

through Narada; it was the very same calculation that Janaka's astrolgers

had already made. When all the people heard of this event, they observed,

"Why, our astrologers are also so many Creators!".

312 The most auspicious and sacred hour before sunset (which is the time

when cows generally return home from pasture, and is marked by clouds

of dust raised by their hoofs) arrived; perceiving propitious omens, the

Brahmans sent owrd to Janaka

312.1 The King said to Shatananda, the family priest, "What is now the

cause of delay?" Shatananda then summoned the ministers who came equipped

with all that was auspicious.

312.2 Then sounded a number of conches, drums and tabors and other instruments

of music and festal vases and objects of good omen such as curds, turmeric

and blades of durva grass were displayed. Graceful women (whose husbands

were alive) sang songs and holy Brhamanas intoned Vedic texts.

312.4 "The hour has come" they said, "be pleased to start". At this the

drums gave a thundering beat and after consulting Vasistha hsi Guru and

performing the family rites, Dasharatha set out with a host of sages and

holy men.

313.1 Seeing the auspiciousness of the hour, the gods rained down flowers

and sounded their drums. Shiva and Brahma and hosts of other deities moounted

their chariots in several groups

313.2 and came to see Rama's wedding............

Best regards

Swee

swee (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net

www.brihaspati.net

|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||

July 20, 2003

Your reference to Muhurtas being fixed to suit the convenience of the persons,

reminds me of many a West Coast Shetties, coming to the Maharaj, and asking him

"Please fix a GOOD muhurtam on a SUNDAY at about NOON ". The maharaj has no

choice.

Sanjay Rath <daivagyna (AT) sify (DOT) com> wrote:

Jaya Guru Dear Chandrasekharji Perhaps you are right. We should also bear in

mind that the north India has suffered much more and has had to change many of

its customs etc based on the need of the day. Traditions have been kept alive

in the east (Bengal), south and some parts of the west like say Maharashtra.

That is why I feel that there maybe some more authentic logic to this than just

selecting any muhurta. Although your point is well taken and it is too late to

alter anything as convenience is more important for people to ensure

attendance. This thread has little relevance as we cannot alter anything and

choosing a muhurta will again require all the rules of muhurta to be obeyed.

Again in real life/practise, the best muhurta is very illusive and at most

times I give only that which seems to be the most helpful for the activity.

Evening is the best time to attend and the kings must have reserved this for

themselves...perhaps that could be a reason. After everyone dined and enjoyed

their social exchanges they must have decided to tie the knot. That poor pandit

would have very little say. Chandrasekharji, what I am looking for is any

reference to the best times during a day for certain activities. Any references

will help. This can be used to make a very disciplined life and will of great

help to every person. if you come across something in this regard, please mail

me.

Yours truly, Sanjay Rath Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

E-mail: srath (AT) srath (DOT) com srath (AT) vsnl (DOT) com daivagyna (AT) sify (DOT) com

Web: http://srath.com http://.org

----~om tat sat~--------------

Chandrashekhar Sharma

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