Guest guest Posted July 26, 2003 Report Share Posted July 26, 2003 Dear Mukund, You are absolutely correct. Some scholars opine that Sarpa yoga is given if 3 malefics are in quadrants. However, if you want to strictly follow Parasara, this is wrong. Please refer to verse 8 of the chapter on Naabhasa yogas in BPHS. It says "kendratraya gataih saumyaih paapairvaa". The expression kendratraya means a "kendra trio" (trio of quadrants). The verse unambiguously says that benefics or malefics occupying a trio of quadrants form Maalaa and Sarpa yogas respectively. So, if there are two malefics in one kendra, another malefic in another kendra and other kendras have no malefics, then there is no sarpa yoga even though there are 3 malefics in [two] kendras. Parasara is very clear. I see no reason to contradict Parasara, unless there is an ambiguity in his teachings. That is not the case here. Regarding Sun being a benefic or a "paapa" (malefic), I request the learned to kindly refer to verse 8 in the chapter on Yoga Karakas in BPHS. The Sage clearly states whether Sun is paapa or not. Sanjay ji is absolutely right in the sense that Sun is not a malefic in dharmik matters. The original question to which he answered saying Sun was a benefic was related to prayers when Sun rose. Sun is a benefic planet for dharma (prayers, marriage etc). So, he is right in the limited context. But, the general status of Sun as a paapa is very clearly set in the verse I quoted. Chandrashakhar ji, to the best of my knowledge, nodes can cause Sarpa yoga. After all, nodes are the symbols of sarpa (serpant). May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha > Dear members:> > Sarpa yog is having malefics in THREE or more DISTINCT quadrants, not > having three malefics in A QUADRANT or TWO QUADRANTS.> > Mukund> > vedic astrology, "vikram_singhvi" > <vikram_singhvi> wrote:> > Respected Chandrasheharji,> > > > Sorry to interfere you here. I think we have to consider > > nodes also here otherwise only Sat and Mars will be left to > consider > > as Sun is not considered as Malefic but a Kroor Graha as Sanjayji > > also mentioned this in his recent mail.Hence the condition for > having > > a sarpa yoga(presence of having 3 or more malefic in the > quardrants) > > will never be satisfied if we don't take nodes into account.> > > > Thanks & regards> > > > Vikram> > > > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" > > <boxdel> wrote:> > > Dear Shunny,> > > I do not thnk you have Sarpa dosha. When papagrahas are > mentioned, > > I do not> > > think the nodes are included. Other Gurus might like to enlighten.> > > Chandrashekhar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Narasimharaoji, The reason I do not think rahu Ketu, is that they are Chayagrahas, if alone in a benefic sign they will give results according to the lord which would be benefic and not malefic per . And even though BPHS does mention them as Malefics vide shloka 11 Ch,3, in other shlokas indicating various qualities of Planets they do not find mention at all( these are shlokas 12,13,,16,1718,19,20,21,22,31 etc). As you are aware, the BPHS we have now comes from shlokas collected from different Panditaas by Pt. Jha and different editions have additional different shlokas.Another reason is that Sarpa, yoga forms part of nabhasa Yogas( more specifically dala yoga) and looking at the combinations of these yogas some are not possible if Rahu and ketu were meant to be considered Viz. Gola yoga. Of course, I could be wrong, but is it not interesting to see that For Planetary castes two different shlokas appear in BPHS 22 & again at shloka 41. Would a sage of the greatness of Parashara and hailed as one amongst 18 pravartakas of Jyotish forget what he said earlier? Chandrashekhar. Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net]Sunday, July 27, 2003 3:23 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Sarpa yoga definition (Re: Nagpanchmi and Sarpa Dosa) Dear Mukund, You are absolutely correct. Some scholars opine that Sarpa yoga is given if 3 malefics are in quadrants. However, if you want to strictly follow Parasara, this is wrong. Please refer to verse 8 of the chapter on Naabhasa yogas in BPHS. It says "kendratraya gataih saumyaih paapairvaa". The expression kendratraya means a "kendra trio" (trio of quadrants). The verse unambiguously says that benefics or malefics occupying a trio of quadrants form Maalaa and Sarpa yogas respectively. So, if there are two malefics in one kendra, another malefic in another kendra and other kendras have no malefics, then there is no sarpa yoga even though there are 3 malefics in [two] kendras. Parasara is very clear. I see no reason to contradict Parasara, unless there is an ambiguity in his teachings. That is not the case here. Regarding Sun being a benefic or a "paapa" (malefic), I request the learned to kindly refer to verse 8 in the chapter on Yoga Karakas in BPHS. The Sage clearly states whether Sun is paapa or not. Sanjay ji is absolutely right in the sense that Sun is not a malefic in dharmik matters. The original question to which he answered saying Sun was a benefic was related to prayers when Sun rose. Sun is a benefic planet for dharma (prayers, marriage etc). So, he is right in the limited context. But, the general status of Sun as a paapa is very clearly set in the verse I quoted. Chandrashakhar ji, to the best of my knowledge, nodes can cause Sarpa yoga. After all, nodes are the symbols of sarpa (serpant). May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha > Dear members:> > Sarpa yog is having malefics in THREE or more DISTINCT quadrants, not > having three malefics in A QUADRANT or TWO QUADRANTS.> > Mukund> > vedic astrology, "vikram_singhvi" > <vikram_singhvi> wrote:> > Respected Chandrasheharji,> > > > Sorry to interfere you here. I think we have to consider > > nodes also here otherwise only Sat and Mars will be left to > consider > > as Sun is not considered as Malefic but a Kroor Graha as Sanjayji > > also mentioned this in his recent mail.Hence the condition for > having > > a sarpa yoga(presence of having 3 or more malefic in the > quardrants) > > will never be satisfied if we don't take nodes into account.> > > > Thanks & regards> > > > Vikram> > > > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" > > <boxdel> wrote:> > > Dear Shunny,> > > I do not thnk you have Sarpa dosha. When papagrahas are > mentioned, > > I do not> > > think the nodes are included. Other Gurus might like to enlighten.> > > Chandrashekhar. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanjib_65biswas Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 If two malefic present in two kendra and in 3rd kendra 1 malefic with jupiter can we termed it as sarpa dosha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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