2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:24 PM

[vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hi,

1. How exactly to use the various dbalas of planets in prediction? If, for

example, Su is in Li for a Cp native, it'll be low on sthanabala but high in

digbala. What I'm interested in knowing is which bala affects what facet?

Visti: You must meditate on every Bala. The Dig Bala as you would have

noticed, only finds its strength in 4 directions, similar to the 4 goals of

life: Dharma (1st), Artha(10th), Kaama (7th) and Moksha (4th). The Dig Bala

strength will show how eagerly the native persues a certain Ayana/Goal in life.

Now you try to figure out what the Sthana Bala means.

2. Does the marana karaka sthana principle has any exceptions. If a planet is in

mks but in its own house, exaltation/debilitation, friendly/inimical house, etc.

do we need to modify the results? And if yes, how?

Visti: Yes this has been indicated in the past.. Did you know that the Gyana

Mudra enhances memory? The Gyana Mudra is formed by holding the tips of thumb

and index finger together. The Gurus practice this during meditation, or whilst

learning... or atleast they SHOULD! Sishyas are advised the same.

Yes if a planet is in Marana Karaka Sthana and in exaltation or joined the

planet lording the exaltation sign, the evil effects are removed. If it happens

in own sign, the evils will come but the native comes out flying.

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

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February 23, 2003

Jaya Jagannath

Dear Rama,

The six fold strength (shadbala) and their use:

Kalaja or Temporal - For finding the best time an activity to be performed.

Select the time governed by the planet having high kala bala.

Chesta or Motional- When you are doing some shifts or change in the way of life,

this bala will direct you to the planet which will show the changes coming.

Uchhaja or Exaltaional - For acheivements and sucess in endeavors. Generally

used for all the activites.

Dik or Directional - When checking which direction is prosperous for you.

Ayana or Declination - The directions of life

Sthana or Positional - The place which shall suit you.

These are few thoughts.... you can explore more on the meaning of the names of

the different balas. The results of the planets are not only given during the

dasa, but also in various other ways. If you are staying in a direction ruled

by the planet which has very low dik bala, you might face difficulties and

obstructions.

I am yet to find out more on this topic. Probably some day Gurudev writes on the

use of this. Most authors have used this to check the results of a dasa. I am

very sure that there are much more than this.

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Ramapriya D

Monday, February 24, 2003 12:24 AM

[vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hi,

1. How exactly to use the various dbalas of planets in prediction? If, for

example, Su is in Li for a Cp native, it'll be low on sthanabala but high in

digbala. What I'm interested in knowing is which bala affects what facet?

2. Does the marana karaka sthana principle has any exceptions. If a planet is in

mks but in its own house, exaltation/debilitation, friendly/inimical house, etc.

do we need to modify the results? And if yes, how?

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

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February 23, 2003

Dear Visti,

About Gyan mudra is it not the middle finger and thumb?

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:11 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Ramapriya,

Comments below.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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Ramapriya D

Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:24 PM

[vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hi,

1. How exactly to use the various dbalas of planets in prediction? If, for

example, Su is in Li for a Cp native, it'll be low on sthanabala but high in

digbala. What I'm interested in knowing is which bala affects what facet?

Visti: You must meditate on every Bala. The Dig Bala as you would have

noticed, only finds its strength in 4 directions, similar to the 4 goals of

life: Dharma (1st), Artha(10th), Kaama (7th) and Moksha (4th). The Dig Bala

strength will show how eagerly the native persues a certain Ayana/Goal in life.

Now you try to figure out what the Sthana Bala means.

2. Does the marana karaka sthana principle has any exceptions. If a planet is in

mks but in its own house, exaltation/debilitation, friendly/inimical house, etc.

do we need to modify the results? And if yes, how?

Visti: Yes this has been indicated in the past.. Did you know that the Gyana

Mudra enhances memory? The Gyana Mudra is formed by holding the tips of thumb

and index finger together. The Gurus practice this during meditation, or whilst

learning... or atleast they SHOULD! Sishyas are advised the same.

Yes if a planet is in Marana Karaka Sthana and in exaltation or joined the

planet lording the exaltation sign, the evil effects are removed. If it happens

in own sign, the evils will come but the native comes out flying.

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

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February 23, 2003

Hare Rama Krsna

My GOD! No!

We never let middle finger and thumb touch, unless we add ring finger..

otherwise ill health will follow.

Middle finger is the Vayu Tattwa, overlorded by Shani...

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Chandrashekhar

Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:44 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Dear Visti,

About Gyan mudra is it not the middle finger and thumb?

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:11 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Ramapriya,

Comments below.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Ramapriya D

Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:24 PM

[vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hi,

1. How exactly to use the various dbalas of planets in prediction? If, for

example, Su is in Li for a Cp native, it'll be low on sthanabala but high in

digbala. What I'm interested in knowing is which bala affects what facet?

Visti: You must meditate on every Bala. The Dig Bala as you would have

noticed, only finds its strength in 4 directions, similar to the 4 goals of

life: Dharma (1st), Artha(10th), Kaama (7th) and Moksha (4th). The Dig Bala

strength will show how eagerly the native persues a certain Ayana/Goal in life.

Now you try to figure out what the Sthana Bala means.

2. Does the marana karaka sthana principle has any exceptions. If a planet is in

mks but in its own house, exaltation/debilitation, friendly/inimical house, etc.

do we need to modify the results? And if yes, how?

Visti: Yes this has been indicated in the past.. Did you know that the Gyana

Mudra enhances memory? The Gyana Mudra is formed by holding the tips of thumb

and index finger together. The Gurus practice this during meditation, or whilst

learning... or atleast they SHOULD! Sishyas are advised the same.

Yes if a planet is in Marana Karaka Sthana and in exaltation or joined the

planet lording the exaltation sign, the evil effects are removed. If it happens

in own sign, the evils will come but the native comes out flying.

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

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February 23, 2003

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Dear Sarajit,

Namaste.

Wow, some very interesting thoughts here.

-

Sarajit Poddar

Sunday, February 23, 2003 6:13 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Jaya Jagannath

Dear Rama,

The six fold strength (shadbala) and their use:

Kalaja or Temporal - For finding the best time an activity to be performed.

Select the time governed by the planet having high kala bala.

You mean the month day etc. having kalabala? this will be automatically similar

to birth date, time etc. What about someoen born in a flawed time i.e.

Gandanta?

Chesta or Motional- When you are doing some shifts or change in the way of life,

this bala will direct you to the planet which will show the changes coming.

Uchhaja or Exaltaional - For acheivements and sucess in endeavors. Generally

used for all the activites. Dik or Directional - When checking which direction

is prosperous for you.

Here you mean the scheme of Lagna-East, 1öth North etc? What about the houses which are not kendras?

Ayana or Declination - The directions of life

Not sure how to use this one.

Sthana or Positional - The place which shall suit you.

Sthana Bala is for planets in the houses. Now how do you relate this to places?

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies:

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839

These are few thoughts.... you can explore more on the meaning of the names of

the different balas. The results of the planets are not only given during the

dasa, but also in various other ways. If you are staying in a direction ruled

by the planet which has very low dik bala, you might face difficulties and

obstructions.

I am yet to find out more on this topic. Probably some day Gurudev writes on the

use of this. Most authors have used this to check the results of a dasa. I am

very sure that there are much more than this.

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Ramapriya D

Monday, February 24, 2003 12:24 AM

[vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hi,

1. How exactly to use the various dbalas of planets in prediction? If, for

example, Su is in Li for a Cp native, it'll be low on sthanabala but high in

digbala. What I'm interested in knowing is which bala affects what facet?

2. Does the marana karaka sthana principle has any exceptions. If a planet is in

mks but in its own house, exaltation/debilitation, friendly/inimical house, etc.

do we need to modify the results? And if yes, how?

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

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February 23, 2003

Jaya Jagannath

Dear Gauranga,

For kalabala, you can find the planet who has the highest kala-bala, you can

understake activities ruled by the year lorded by that planet, or you can

consider the Hora, Lagna of the rasis owned by the planet. The idea is check

the time ruled by the planet having the said planet having highest Kala bala.

For Dik Bala, each planets rule 8 directions, you can fiind the directions ruled

by the planet having good dik-bala. That direction from the birth place shall be

good for the native.

As of sthana-bala. This shows the position or place, which will give a boost to

the image or status. Some positions could be a priest in the temple or a

administrative head in the temple, signified by Jup or Sun. We can also see

what cimstances would be good for the native, such as a social party or a

gathering of intellectuals.

I am open to ideas from all. It shall be nice to see how it works in the horoscopes.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

-

Gauranga Das

Monday, February 24, 2003 4:54 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Dear Sarajit,

Namaste.

Wow, some very interesting thoughts here.

-

Sarajit Poddar

Sunday, February 23, 2003 6:13 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Jaya Jagannath

Dear Rama,

The six fold strength (shadbala) and their use:

Kalaja or Temporal - For finding the best time an activity to be performed.

Select the time governed by the planet having high kala bala.

You mean the month day etc. having kalabala? this will be automatically similar

to birth date, time etc. What about someoen born in a flawed time i.e.

Gandanta?

Chesta or Motional- When you are doing some shifts or change in the way of life,

this bala will direct you to the planet which will show the changes coming.

Uchhaja or Exaltaional - For acheivements and sucess in endeavors. Generally

used for all the activites. Dik or Directional - When checking which direction

is prosperous for you.

Here you mean the scheme of Lagna-East, 1öth North etc? What about the houses which are not kendras?

Ayana or Declination - The directions of life

Not sure how to use this one.

Sthana or Positional - The place which shall suit you.

Sthana Bala is for planets in the houses. Now how do you relate this to places?

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies:

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839

These are few thoughts.... you can explore more on the meaning of the names of

the different balas. The results of the planets are not only given during the

dasa, but also in various other ways. If you are staying in a direction ruled

by the planet which has very low dik bala, you might face difficulties and

obstructions.

I am yet to find out more on this topic. Probably some day Gurudev writes on the

use of this. Most authors have used this to check the results of a dasa. I am

very sure that there are much more than this.

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Ramapriya D

Monday, February 24, 2003 12:24 AM

[vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hi,

1. How exactly to use the various dbalas of planets in prediction? If, for

example, Su is in Li for a Cp native, it'll be low on sthanabala but high in

digbala. What I'm interested in knowing is which bala affects what facet?

2. Does the marana karaka sthana principle has any exceptions. If a planet is in

mks but in its own house, exaltation/debilitation, friendly/inimical house, etc.

do we need to modify the results? And if yes, how?

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

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February 24, 2003

Dear Visti,

Have you read Swee's post? She states( and on good authority)"

In Padma Purana (Sattvic), it is stated that by muttering mantras with the help

of a rudraksa mala for thousands of lakhs of crores and hundreds of lakhs of

crores (times) one gets religious merit. the berry (rudraksa) should touch the

middle finger. Then in the proper order, one should mutter, moving one’s hand,

again and again, touching the central bead of the mala. (Visti, what do you say

to this? The middle finger= Vayu Tattwa)"

I too remember sanjayji telling in a post that Index finger is not to be used in meditation.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Monday, February 24, 2003 1:18 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

My GOD! No!

We never let middle finger and thumb touch, unless we add ring finger..

otherwise ill health will follow.

Middle finger is the Vayu Tattwa, overlorded by Shani...

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Chandrashekhar

Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:44 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Dear Visti,

About Gyan mudra is it not the middle finger and thumb?

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:11 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Ramapriya,

Comments below.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Ramapriya D

Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:24 PM

[vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hi,

1. How exactly to use the various dbalas of planets in prediction? If, for

example, Su is in Li for a Cp native, it'll be low on sthanabala but high in

digbala. What I'm interested in knowing is which bala affects what facet?

Visti: You must meditate on every Bala. The Dig Bala as you would have

noticed, only finds its strength in 4 directions, similar to the 4 goals of

life: Dharma (1st), Artha(10th), Kaama (7th) and Moksha (4th). The Dig Bala

strength will show how eagerly the native persues a certain Ayana/Goal in life.

Now you try to figure out what the Sthana Bala means.

2. Does the marana karaka sthana principle has any exceptions. If a planet is in

mks but in its own house, exaltation/debilitation, friendly/inimical house, etc.

do we need to modify the results? And if yes, how?

Visti: Yes this has been indicated in the past.. Did you know that the Gyana

Mudra enhances memory? The Gyana Mudra is formed by holding the tips of thumb

and index finger together. The Gurus practice this during meditation, or whilst

learning... or atleast they SHOULD! Sishyas are advised the same.

Yes if a planet is in Marana Karaka Sthana and in exaltation or joined the

planet lording the exaltation sign, the evil effects are removed. If it happens

in own sign, the evils will come but the native comes out flying.

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

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February 24, 2003

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Chandrashekhar Ji,

Rolling of Rosary beads between thumb and Anamika (Ring finger ) is the best one

as the beads are touching the thumb enhances final emancipation and Anamika

finger enhances mental peace.

I hope this helps.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Visti,

Have you read Swee's post? She states( and on good authority)" In Padma Purana

(Sattvic), it is stated that by muttering mantras with the help of a rudraksa

mala for thousands of lakhs of crores and hundreds of lakhs of crores (times)

one gets religious merit. the berry (rudraksa) should touch the middle finger.

Then in the proper order, one should mutter, moving one’s hand, again and

again, touching the central bead of the mala. (Visti, what do you say to this?

The middle finger= Vayu Tattwa)"

I too remember sanjayji telling in a post that Index finger is not to be used in meditation.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Monday, February 24, 2003 1:18 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

My GOD! No!

We never let middle finger and thumb touch, unless we add ring finger..

otherwise ill health will follow.

Middle finger is the Vayu Tattwa, overlorded by Shani...

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Chandrashekhar

Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:44 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Dear Visti,

About Gyan mudra is it not the middle finger and thumb?

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:11 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Ramapriya,

Comments below.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Ramapriya D

Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:24 PM

[vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hi,

1. How exactly to use the various dbalas of planets in prediction? If, for

example, Su is in Li for a Cp native, it'll be low on sthanabala but high in

digbala. What I'm interested in knowing is which bala affects what facet?

Visti: You must meditate on every Bala. The Dig Bala as you would have

noticed, only finds its strength in 4 directions, similar to the 4 goals of

life: Dharma (1st), Artha(10th), Kaama (7th) and Moksha (4th). The Dig Bala

strength will show how eagerly the native persues a certain Ayana/Goal in life.

Now you try to figure out what the Sthana Bala means.

2. Does the marana karaka sthana principle has any exceptions. If a planet is in

mks but in its own house, exaltation/debilitation, friendly/inimical house, etc.

do we need to modify the results? And if yes, how?

Visti: Yes this has been indicated in the past.. Did you know that the Gyana

Mudra enhances memory? The Gyana Mudra is formed by holding the tips of thumb

and index finger together. The Gurus practice this during meditation, or whilst

learning... or atleast they SHOULD! Sishyas are advised the same.

Yes if a planet is in Marana Karaka Sthana and in exaltation or joined the

planet lording the exaltation sign, the evil effects are removed. If it happens

in own sign, the evils will come but the native comes out flying.

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

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February 25, 2003

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Chandrashekhar,

I said nothing about touching the Maala.

Study the images of Dakshinamurty, Vishnu, Vyasa, etc. All will have be using

the Gyana or Vyakha Mudra, showing that worshipping them will give knowledge.

The use of Mala is slightly different.

You can study any book on Mudras to understand this.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Chandrashekhar

Monday, February 24, 2003 8:49 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Dear Visti,

Have you read Swee's post? She states( and on good authority)" In Padma Purana

(Sattvic), it is stated that by muttering mantras with the help of a rudraksa

mala for thousands of lakhs of crores and hundreds of lakhs of crores (times)

one gets religious merit. the berry (rudraksa) should touch the middle finger.

Then in the proper order, one should mutter, moving one’s hand, again and

again, touching the central bead of the mala. (Visti, what do you say to this?

The middle finger= Vayu Tattwa)"

I too remember sanjayji telling in a post that Index finger is not to be used in meditation.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Monday, February 24, 2003 1:18 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

My GOD! No!

We never let middle finger and thumb touch, unless we add ring finger..

otherwise ill health will follow.

Middle finger is the Vayu Tattwa, overlorded by Shani...

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Chandrashekhar

Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:44 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Dear Visti,

About Gyan mudra is it not the middle finger and thumb?

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:11 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Ramapriya,

Comments below.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Ramapriya D

Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:24 PM

[vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hi,

1.. How exactly to use the various dbalas of planets in prediction? If, for

example, Su is in Li for a Cp native, it'll be low on sthanabala but high in

digbala. What I'm interested in knowing is which bala affects what facet?

Visti: You must meditate on every Bala. The Dig Bala as you would have

noticed, only finds its strength in 4 directions, similar to the 4 goals of

life: Dharma (1st), Artha(10th), Kaama (7th) and Moksha (4th). The Dig Bala

strength will show how eagerly the native persues a certain Ayana/Goal in life.

Now you try to figure out what the Sthana Bala means.

2.. Does the marana karaka sthana principle has any exceptions. If a planet is

in mks but in its own house, exaltation/debilitation, friendly/inimical house,

etc. do we need to modify the results? And if yes, how?

Visti: Yes this has been indicated in the past.. Did you know that the Gyana

Mudra enhances memory? The Gyana Mudra is formed by holding the tips of thumb

and index finger together. The Gurus practice this during meditation, or whilst

learning... or atleast they SHOULD! Sishyas are advised the same.

Yes if a planet is in Marana Karaka Sthana and in exaltation or joined the

planet lording the exaltation sign, the evil effects are removed. If it happens

in own sign, the evils will come but the native comes out flying.

Warm regards,

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Dear Ramdas,

Thank you for your enlightening response. I had seen a post by swee which

mentions that per Padma-Purana Middle finger and thumb have to touch the rosary

beads, hence the query. Could I know your opinion about this?

Chandrashekhar.

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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Chandrashekhar Ji, Rolling of Rosary beads between thumb and Anamika (Ring

finger ) is the best one as the beads are touching the thumb enhances final

emancipation and Anamika finger enhances mental peace. I hope this helps. With

best regards, Ramadas Rao. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Visti,

Have you read Swee's post? She states( and on good authority)" In Padma Purana

(Sattvic), it is stated that by muttering mantras with the help of a rudraksa

mala for thousands of lakhs of crores and hundreds of lakhs of crores (times)

one gets religious merit. the berry (rudraksa) should touch the middle finger.

Then in the proper order, one should mutter, moving one’s hand, again and

again, touching the central bead of the mala. (Visti, what do you say to this?

The middle finger= Vayu Tattwa)"

I too remember sanjayji telling in a post that Index finger is not to be used in meditation.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Monday, February 24, 2003 1:18 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

My GOD! No!

We never let middle finger and thumb touch, unless we add ring finger..

otherwise ill health will follow.

Middle finger is the Vayu Tattwa, overlorded by Shani...

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:44 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Dear Visti,

About Gyan mudra is it not the middle finger and thumb?

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:11 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Ramapriya,

Comments below.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Ramapriya D

Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:24 PM

[vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hi,

1. How exactly to use the various dbalas of planets in prediction? If, for

example, Su is in Li for a Cp native, it'll be low on sthanabala but high in

digbala. What I'm interested in knowing is which bala affects what facet?

Visti: You must meditate on every Bala. The Dig Bala as you would have

noticed, only finds its strength in 4 directions, similar to the 4 goals of

life: Dharma (1st), Artha(10th), Kaama (7th) and Moksha (4th). The Dig Bala

strength will show how eagerly the native persues a certain Ayana/Goal in life.

Now you try to figure out what the Sthana Bala means.

2. Does the marana karaka sthana principle has any exceptions. If a planet is in

mks but in its own house, exaltation/debilitation, friendly/inimical house, etc.

do we need to modify the results? And if yes, how?

Visti: Yes this has been indicated in the past.. Did you know that the Gyana

Mudra enhances memory? The Gyana Mudra is formed by holding the tips of thumb

and index finger together. The Gurus practice this during meditation, or whilst

learning... or atleast they SHOULD! Sishyas are advised the same.

Yes if a planet is in Marana Karaka Sthana and in exaltation or joined the

planet lording the exaltation sign, the evil effects are removed. If it happens

in own sign, the evils will come but the native comes out flying.

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

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Dear Visti,

Thank you for pointing out the difference between mudras for Tapa and that for

holding rosary beads. Should I take this to mean that rosary beads touching

middle finger would eliminate the ill health effects. Also I would like your

opinion on what Sanjayji had also said in one of his posts about not using

index finger for meditation. I would like to know more about mudras hence the

query.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:39 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Chandrashekhar,

I said nothing about touching the Maala.

Study the images of Dakshinamurty, Vishnu, Vyasa, etc. All will have be using

the Gyana or Vyakha Mudra, showing that worshipping them will give knowledge.

The use of Mala is slightly different.

You can study any book on Mudras to understand this.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

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Chandrashekhar

Monday, February 24, 2003 8:49 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Dear Visti,

Have you read Swee's post? She states( and on good authority)" In Padma Purana

(Sattvic), it is stated that by muttering mantras with the help of a rudraksa

mala for thousands of lakhs of crores and hundreds of lakhs of crores (times)

one gets religious merit. the berry (rudraksa) should touch the middle finger.

Then in the proper order, one should mutter, moving one’s hand, again and

again, touching the central bead of the mala. (Visti, what do you say to this?

The middle finger= Vayu Tattwa)"

I too remember sanjayji telling in a post that Index finger is not to be used in meditation.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Monday, February 24, 2003 1:18 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

My GOD! No!

We never let middle finger and thumb touch, unless we add ring finger..

otherwise ill health will follow.

Middle finger is the Vayu Tattwa, overlorded by Shani...

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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Chandrashekhar

Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:44 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Dear Visti,

About Gyan mudra is it not the middle finger and thumb?

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:11 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Ramapriya,

Comments below.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Ramapriya D

Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:24 PM

[vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hi,

1.. How exactly to use the various dbalas of planets in prediction? If, for

example, Su is in Li for a Cp native, it'll be low on sthanabala but high in

digbala. What I'm interested in knowing is which bala affects what facet?

Visti: You must meditate on every Bala. The Dig Bala as you would have

noticed, only finds its strength in 4 directions, similar to the 4 goals of

life: Dharma (1st), Artha(10th), Kaama (7th) and Moksha (4th). The Dig Bala

strength will show how eagerly the native persues a certain Ayana/Goal in life.

Now you try to figure out what the Sthana Bala means.

2.. Does the marana karaka sthana principle has any exceptions. If a planet is

in mks but in its own house, exaltation/debilitation, friendly/inimical house,

etc. do we need to modify the results? And if yes, how?

Visti: Yes this has been indicated in the past.. Did you know that the Gyana

Mudra enhances memory? The Gyana Mudra is formed by holding the tips of thumb

and index finger together. The Gurus practice this during meditation, or whilst

learning... or atleast they SHOULD! Sishyas are advised the same.

Yes if a planet is in Marana Karaka Sthana and in exaltation or joined the

planet lording the exaltation sign, the evil effects are removed. If it happens

in own sign, the evils will come but the native comes out flying.

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Chandrashekhar,

You will have to qoute the post, as Sanjay has explicitly taught me the Gyana

Mudra, and to meditate using it.

I do however not know much about Mudras, mainly because i have not taken a

thorough interest in understanding it, however i have found that certain mudras

tend to ignite certain muscles, which may enhance certain parts of the brain.

Maybe in the future we can give a detailed description and basis for using Mudras.

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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:36 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Dear Visti,

Thank you for pointing out the difference between mudras for Tapa and that for

holding rosary beads. Should I take this to mean that rosary beads touching

middle finger would eliminate the ill health effects. Also I would like your

opinion on what Sanjayji had also said in one of his posts about not using

index finger for meditation. I would like to know more about mudras hence the

query.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:39 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Chandrashekhar,

I said nothing about touching the Maala.

Study the images of Dakshinamurty, Vishnu, Vyasa, etc. All will have be using

the Gyana or Vyakha Mudra, showing that worshipping them will give knowledge.

The use of Mala is slightly different.

You can study any book on Mudras to understand this.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Chandrashekhar

Monday, February 24, 2003 8:49 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Dear Visti,

Have you read Swee's post? She states( and on good authority)" In Padma Purana

(Sattvic), it is stated that by muttering mantras with the help of a rudraksa

mala for thousands of lakhs of crores and hundreds of lakhs of crores (times)

one gets religious merit. the berry (rudraksa) should touch the middle finger.

Then in the proper order, one should mutter, moving one’s hand, again and

again, touching the central bead of the mala. (Visti, what do you say to this?

The middle finger= Vayu Tattwa)"

I too remember sanjayji telling in a post that Index finger is not to be used in meditation.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Monday, February 24, 2003 1:18 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

My GOD! No!

We never let middle finger and thumb touch, unless we add ring finger..

otherwise ill health will follow.

Middle finger is the Vayu Tattwa, overlorded by Shani...

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Chandrashekhar

Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:44 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Dear Visti,

About Gyan mudra is it not the middle finger and thumb?

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:11 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Ramapriya,

Comments below.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Ramapriya D

Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:24 PM

[vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hi,

1.. How exactly to use the various dbalas of planets in prediction? If, for

example, Su is in Li for a Cp native, it'll be low on sthanabala but high in

digbala. What I'm interested in knowing is which bala affects what facet?

Visti: You must meditate on every Bala. The Dig Bala as you would have

noticed, only finds its strength in 4 directions, similar to the 4 goals of

life: Dharma (1st), Artha(10th), Kaama (7th) and Moksha (4th). The Dig Bala

strength will show how eagerly the native persues a certain Ayana/Goal in life.

Now you try to figure out what the Sthana Bala means.

2.. Does the marana karaka sthana principle has any exceptions. If a planet is

in mks but in its own house, exaltation/debilitation, friendly/inimical house,

etc. do we need to modify the results? And if yes, how?

Visti: Yes this has been indicated in the past.. Did you know that the Gyana

Mudra enhances memory? The Gyana Mudra is formed by holding the tips of thumb

and index finger together. The Gurus practice this during meditation, or whilst

learning... or atleast they SHOULD! Sishyas are advised the same.

Yes if a planet is in Marana Karaka Sthana and in exaltation or joined the

planet lording the exaltation sign, the evil effects are removed. If it happens

in own sign, the evils will come but the native comes out flying.

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

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` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Chandrashekhar Ji,

The Mantras for wealth and happiness can be used for counting through beads

which can roll between Thumb and Madhyama (Middle finger ).

I hope this helps.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Ramdas,

Thank you for your enlightening response. I had seen a post by swee which

mentions that per Padma-Purana Middle finger and thumb have to touch the rosary

beads, hence the query. Could I know your opinion about this?

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ramadas Rao

Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Chandrashekhar Ji, Rolling of Rosary beads between thumb and Anamika (Ring

finger ) is the best one as the beads are touching the thumb enhances final

emancipation and Anamika finger enhances mental peace. I hope this helps. With

best regards, Ramadas Rao. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Visti,

Have you read Swee's post? She states( and on good authority)" In Padma Purana

(Sattvic), it is stated that by muttering mantras with the help of a rudraksa

mala for thousands of lakhs of crores and hundreds of lakhs of crores (times)

one gets religious merit. the berry (rudraksa) should touch the middle finger.

Then in the proper order, one should mutter, moving one’s hand, again and

again, touching the central bead of the mala. (Visti, what do you say to this?

The middle finger= Vayu Tattwa)"

I too remember sanjayji telling in a post that Index finger is not to be used in meditation.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Monday, February 24, 2003 1:18 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

My GOD! No!

We never let middle finger and thumb touch, unless we add ring finger..

otherwise ill health will follow.

Middle finger is the Vayu Tattwa, overlorded by Shani...

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:44 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Dear Visti,

About Gyan mudra is it not the middle finger and thumb?

Chandrashekhar.

-

Visti Larsen

Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:11 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Ramapriya,

Comments below.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Ramapriya D

Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:24 PM

[vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hi,

1. How exactly to use the various dbalas of planets in prediction? If, for

example, Su is in Li for a Cp native, it'll be low on sthanabala but high in

digbala. What I'm interested in knowing is which bala affects what facet?

Visti: You must meditate on every Bala. The Dig Bala as you would have

noticed, only finds its strength in 4 directions, similar to the 4 goals of

life: Dharma (1st), Artha(10th), Kaama (7th) and Moksha (4th). The Dig Bala

strength will show how eagerly the native persues a certain Ayana/Goal in life.

Now you try to figure out what the Sthana Bala means.

2. Does the marana karaka sthana principle has any exceptions. If a planet is in

mks but in its own house, exaltation/debilitation, friendly/inimical house, etc.

do we need to modify the results? And if yes, how?

Visti: Yes this has been indicated in the past.. Did you know that the Gyana

Mudra enhances memory? The Gyana Mudra is formed by holding the tips of thumb

and index finger together. The Gurus practice this during meditation, or whilst

learning... or atleast they SHOULD! Sishyas are advised the same.

Yes if a planet is in Marana Karaka Sthana and in exaltation or joined the

planet lording the exaltation sign, the evil effects are removed. If it happens

in own sign, the evils will come but the native comes out flying.

Warm regards,

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Purana (Sattvic), it is stated that

by muttering mantras with the help of a rudraksa mala for thousands of

lakhs of crores and hundreds of lakhs of crores (times) one gets religious

merit. the berry (rudraksa) should touch the middle finger. Then in the proper

order, one should mutter, moving one’s hand, again and again, touching the

central bead of the mala. (Visti, what do you say to this? The middle finger=

Vayu Tattwa)"

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of planets in prediction? If, for example, Su is in Li for a Cp native, it'll

be low on sthanabala but high in digbala. What I'm interested in knowing is

which bala affects what facet?

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You must meditate on every Bala. The Dig Bala as you would have noticed, only

finds its strength in 4 directions, similar to the 4 goals of life: Dharma

(1st), Artha(10th), Kaama (7th) and Moksha (4th). The Dig Bala strength will

show how eagerly the native persues a certain Ayana/Goal in life. Now you try

to figure out what the Sthana Bala means.

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principle has any exceptions. If a planet is in mks but in its own house,

exaltation/debilitation, friendly/inimical house, etc. do we need to modify the

results? And if yes, how?

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Yes this has been indicated in the past.. Did you know that the Gyana Mudra

enhances memory? The Gyana Mudra is formed by holding the tips of thumb and

index finger together. The Gurus practice this during meditation, or whilst learning...

or atleast they SHOULD! Sishyas are advised the same.

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in Marana Karaka Sthana and in exaltation or joined the planet lording the

exaltation sign, the evil effects are removed. If it happens in own sign, the

evils will come but the native comes out flying.

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hamsa om soham

Dear Chandrashekar,

There is a small but important difference here.

In the gyana mudra, we don't actively use the index finger. It is exactly the

opposite. All the fingers are straight....except for the index finger (ego)

which is lowered/bent. Thus, we get gyana (para vidya) by removing our

ahamkara.

ajit

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Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Dear Visti,

Thank you for pointing out the difference between mudras for Tapa and that for

holding rosary beads. Should I take this to mean that rosary beads touching

middle finger would eliminate the ill health effects. Also I would like your

opinion on what Sanjayji had also said in one of his posts about not using

index finger for meditation. I would like to know more about mudras hence the

query.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

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Visti Larsen

Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:39 PM

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Chandrashekhar,

I said nothing about touching the Maala.

Study the images of Dakshinamurty, Vishnu, Vyasa, etc. All will have be using

the Gyana or Vyakha Mudra, showing that worshipping them will give knowledge.

The use of Mala is slightly different.

You can study any book on Mudras to understand this.

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Monday, February 24, 2003 8:49 PM

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Dear Visti,

Have you read Swee's post? She states( and on good authority)" In Padma Purana

(Sattvic), it is stated that by muttering mantras with the help of a rudraksa

mala for thousands of lakhs of crores and hundreds of lakhs of crores (times)

one gets religious merit. the berry (rudraksa) should touch the middle finger.

Then in the proper order, one should mutter, moving one’s hand, again and

again, touching the central bead of the mala. (Visti, what do you say to this?

The middle finger= Vayu Tattwa)"

I too remember sanjayji telling in a post that Index finger is not to be used in meditation.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

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Visti Larsen

Monday, February 24, 2003 1:18 AM

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Hare Rama Krsna

My GOD! No!

We never let middle finger and thumb touch, unless we add ring finger..

otherwise ill health will follow.

Middle finger is the Vayu Tattwa, overlorded by Shani...

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Chandrashekhar

Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:44 PM

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Dear Visti,

About Gyan mudra is it not the middle finger and thumb?

Chandrashekhar.

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Visti Larsen

Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:11 PM

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Ramapriya,

Comments below.

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Ramapriya D

Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:24 PM

[vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

Hi,

1.. How exactly to use the various dbalas of planets in prediction? If, for

example, Su is in Li for a Cp native, it'll be low on sthanabala but high in

digbala. What I'm interested in knowing is which bala affects what facet?

Visti: You must meditate on every Bala. The Dig Bala as you would have

noticed, only finds its strength in 4 directions, similar to the 4 goals of

life: Dharma (1st), Artha(10th), Kaama (7th) and Moksha (4th). The Dig Bala

strength will show how eagerly the native persues a certain Ayana/Goal in life.

Now you try to figure out what the Sthana Bala means.

2.. Does the marana karaka sthana principle has any exceptions. If a planet is

in mks but in its own house, exaltation/debilitation, friendly/inimical house,

etc. do we need to modify the results? And if yes, how?

Visti: Yes this has been indicated in the past.. Did you know that the Gyana

Mudra enhances memory? The Gyana Mudra is formed by holding the tips of thumb

and index finger together. The Gurus practice this during meditation, or whilst

learning... or atleast they SHOULD! Sishyas are advised the same.

Yes if a planet is in Marana Karaka Sthana and in exaltation or joined the

planet lording the exaltation sign, the evil effects are removed. If it happens

in own sign, the evils will come but the native comes out flying.

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

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SARVAM GYANANANDMAYAM JAGAT

AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

Respected Visti,Swee,Chandrasekar and others,

Discussions were interesting and has forced me to type a few words. Mudras are

no doubt symbolic. Chin Mudra/Gyan Mudra is the result of self realisation. "

Aham Brahmasmi" is the Mahavakya which is expressed through this Mudra. Why is

this self reaslisation so illusive? It is because of the Ahamkar which is

represented by the index finger called Tarjani. What is the use of this Ahamkar

(Maya peeta) in the holy Vrindavan of Atman (Satya peeta). Initially the index

finger should be placed in the root of the Thumb which is verily the

Shivalinga/Guru. This placement of Index finger at the feet of Guru/Lord

resembles the Saranagathi/Surrender priniciple. When the realisation

flowers/unfolds the index finger is slowly but surely raised to the height of

the Thumb. Thus Gyan Mudra is the result of Self realisation.

Rosary & Japa: Mind is Sabda Sagara/ocean of sounds. Every thought is a sound.

That is why the placement of moon (representative of mind) at the time of birth

is considered to pick up that particular sound to which it is originally

related. From the realm of sound/sabdha to the para state of silence/nisabdha

travel/pilgrimage is to be undertaken. Scriptures provide the various

carriers(planes/trains/boats/buses) otherwise known as Mantras which enable one

to be transported. Saturn is embodiment of concentration and meditation. It is

considered as the Govardhana/mountain (mountains indicate one has to climb/do

hard labour). With an intention to do parikrama/come around this holy

mountain, as an intial step, we place a garland and then do the parikrama.

Similarly the rosary is placed on the Middle finger/Madhyama (which represents

Saturn) and japa/parikrama is commenced. Here again the index finger (Indra)

is not required (it was the lord SreeKrishna who taught us the basic fact that

God never demands unlike the demi officials like Indra).

Self realisation does not limit its meaning to I AM GOD. It extends/engulfs

everything. Darshana of myself (SU DARSHANA) in all and all others in

myself.. In short VISHWA ROOPA.

Unless this Ahamkar is cut asunder the real meaning of self realisation "AHAM

BRAHMASMI" does not dawn. It is for this we don't use this index finger either

for the purpose of Japa (means to realisation) and for the results of Japa -

Gyan Mudra!

Astrologically yours,

p.s.ramanarayanan

>"Chandrashekhar"

>vedic astrology >

>Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus >Wed, 26 Feb 2003

00:06:55 +0530 > >Dear Visti, >Thank you for pointing out the difference between

mudras for Tapa and that for holding rosary beads. Should I take this to mean

that rosary beads touching middle finger would eliminate the ill health

effects. Also I would like your opinion on what Sanjayji had also said in one

of his posts about not using index finger for meditation. I would like to know

more about mudras hence the query. >Regards, >Chandrashekhar. > ----- Original

Message ----- > Visti Larsen > vedic astrology >

Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:39 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs

for Visti and gurus > > > Hare Rama Krsna >

>

> > Dear Chandrashekhar, > I said nothing about touching the Maala. > Study the

images of Dakshinamurty, Vishnu, Vyasa, etc. All will have be using the Gyana

or Vyakha Mudra, showing that worshipping them will give knowledge. > The use

of Mala is slightly different. > > You can study any book on Mudras to

understand this. > > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org >

iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > ----- Original Message

----- > Chandrashekhar > vedic astrology > Sent:

Monday, February 24, 2003 8:49 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for

Visti and gurus > > > Dear Visti, > Have you read Swee's post? She states( and

on good authority)" > In Padma Purana (Sattvic), it is stated that by muttering

mantras with the help of a rudraksa mala for thousands of lakhs of crores and

hundreds of lakhs of crores (times) one gets religious merit. the berry

(rudraksa) should touch the middle finger. Then in the proper order, one should

mutter, moving one's hand, again and again, touching the central bead of the

mala. (Visti, what do you say to this? The middle finger= Vayu Tattwa)" > > I

too remember sanjayji telling in a post that Index finger is not to be used in

meditation. > > Regards, > > Chandrashekhar. > > - >

Visti Larsen > vedic astrology > Monday,

February 24, 2003 1:18 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and

gurus > > > Hare Rama Krsna >

>-------- > >

My GOD! No! > We never let middle finger and thumb touch, unless we add ring

finger.. otherwise ill health will follow. > > Middle finger is the Vayu

Tattwa, overlorded by Shani... > > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Sri Jagannath

Center: http://.org > Bhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > - >

Chandrashekhar > vedic astrology > Sunday, February

23, 2003 7:44 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus > >

> Dear Visti, > About Gyan mudra is it not the middle finger and thumb? >

Chandrashekhar. > - > Visti Larsen > To:

vedic astrology > Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:11 PM >

Re: [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus > > > Hare Rama Krsna >

>---- > > Dear

Ramapriya, > Comments below. > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org >

iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > ----- Original Message

----- > Ramapriya D > vedic astrology > Sunday,

February 23, 2003 5:24 PM > [vedic astrology] 2 Qs for Visti and gurus

> > > Hi, > > 1.. How exactly to use the various dbalas of planets in

prediction? If, for example, Su is in Li for a Cp native, it'll be low on

sthanabala but high in digbala. What I'm interested in knowing is which bala

affects what facet? > > Visti: You must meditate on every Bala. The Dig Bala as

you would have noticed, only finds its strength in 4 directions, similar to the

4 goals of life: Dharma (1st), Artha(10th), Kaama (7th) and Moksha (4th). The

Dig Bala strength will show how eagerly the native persues a certain Ayana/Goal

in life. Now you try to figure out what the Sthana Bala means. > > 2.. Does the

marana karaka sthana principle has any exceptions. If a planet is in mks but in

its own house, exaltation/debilitation, friendly/inimical house, etc. do we need

to modify the results? And if yes, how? > > Visti: Yes this has been indicated

in the past.. Did you know that the Gyana Mudra enhances memory? The Gyana

Mudra is formed by holding the tips of thumb and index finger together. The

Gurus practice this during meditation, or whilst learning... or atleast they

SHOULD! Sishyas are advised the same. > > Yes if a planet is in Marana Karaka

Sthana and in exaltation or joined the planet lording the exaltation sign, the

evil effects are removed. If it happens in own sign, the evils will come but

the native comes out flying. > > Warm regards, > > Ramapriya > hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com >

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SARVAM GYANANDAMAYAMA JAGAT

AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

It is felt that the last para in the previous post needs further explanation.

GYAN MUDRA: Tip of the Index finger touching the Tip of Thumb. This is the

result of realisation. Therefore a Sadhak should not practice in this manner.

Instead he can place the index finger at the root of thumb. That is why it was

stated that the index finger is not required for means of realisation.

When the aim/goal is loss of 'I-ness' where is the need for Ahamkar!

In the Lotus feet of Jagannatha,

p.s.ramanarayanan.

>"P.S. RAMANARAYANAN"

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