Rajeev

April 5, 2003

I have read about you, if I quote what you have written about you -

"I am an astrologer but NOT a vedic astrologer. I am a Uranian astrologer and

use dials and 45 degree graphs. I dont deal much with houses and signs except

Asc and MC. I lay a great emphasis on the aspects that too the 8th harmonic."

Your practicing method is far away from vedic astrology. You do not deal with

houses and signs much, you use tropical zodiac, and most of all, you believe in

"New Age Astrology" which uses a new ayanamsa 12 degrees away from Lahiri, which

says Ketu is the most important planet which boosts anything it aspects/joins.

There were great logical and healthy debate in the list of "New age astrology",

where, at last, the list owner moderated the list that all messages will need

his permission to be published. So now, questions and confusions regarding his

new system is not publishing, only so positive comments and appreciations are

publishing there. A poll was created and the latest result was,

"Believe in his system = 8""Do not believe in his system = 67"

In that point the list owner deleted the poll with destroying the poll result.

And now the list has been moderated, the confusions and questions asked are not

publishing there.

The list owner was also banned from other lists for his all strange ideas, like

there is 7 degree difference between Rahu - Ketu, they can be 6th - 8th from

each other, etc etc. That 'astrologer' could not even support his ayanamsa and

method logically in other lists, he could not even prove or answer about his

methods.

In fact this is a total waste of time to argue on this. People like you and that

list owner change all the basic things of Vedic astrology for the sake of 'New

age astrology'.

I wonder if you even read the name of this list - "VEDIC ASTROLOGY". So, this is

not a place to discuss THAT "ASTROLOGY" which does not deal with signs and

houses much, and use tropical ayanamsas and believe that Rahu Ketu is 6th - 8th

from each other.

I know very well how far western astrology can go with it's prediction ability

and other merits. To western astrology, a prediction is only a "possibility".

Huh? That's a very good way to avoid blames when you make a wrong prediction.

Becaue the predictions are only possibilites. I do not know then what is the

point of predicting? Everything has possibilities, like "He may die today", "I

can buy a car next year" etc etc. So WHY predicting?

Western astrologers like you are very cunning in their practices. Surprisingly,

they 'never' make wrong predictions. Like, a western astrologer may tell his

client that he may face an accident next weak, so he advised him to be cautious

in driving. So, if the client faces accident, then the prediction came true -

so, credit of the western astrologer. And, if he does not face accident, then

it is the credit of the western astrologer, too; Because only for his advice

the client was cautious so he did not do accident! Thus, western astrology and

astrologers are safe in both ends. Excellent!

Vedic astrologers accept their limitations of predicting ability and making

mistakes. They accept that when they tell about "possibility" then they say it

because they are not sure, that is their limitation that they are not sure

always. They accept it. And they tells, "The chart is confirm what it will do,

but we say 'not sure' because WE are not sure to READ it confirmly, but the

CHART is sure what it will do." Vedic astrologers do not say that predictions

are possibilities, so that they can avoid the blaim easily.

So, I request you, that when you do not believe in vedic astrology principles,

and think that you are far more knowledgeable than the ancient sages to show

thumb to their established rules, and when you think you can develop new

principles of new age astrology, then you should not waste your time posting in

this list. The members of this list respects ancient vedic astrology, they have

no interest for such "new age astrology" which deals with Rahu - Ketu being 6th

- 8th fro each other. You can discuss and develop your new age ideas in some

other list where you will find many people like you who want to develop new age

astrology.

- Deepak

PS. I am a member of that list of "New age astrology". For my convenient, I used

to read the posts from the net, and did not set my option to deliver messages to

my mailbox. Surprisingly, recently, my membership options are getting changed by

the list owner everyday, to deliver the posts directly to my mailbox, which

creates a mail flood in my account. It is just, that each day I change the

option to, "Do not deliver me messages, I will read the messages from the site"

and soon, the same day, the list owner changes the option to deliver all

messages to my inbox. Nice respect for the members, huh?

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April 5, 2003

I think Rajeev is different from Tarun Chopra, who owns the NAastrology list -

Rajeev is the Uranian, and Tarun is the New Ayanamsa guy.

Sateesh.

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- Deepak Singh

vedic astrology

Saturday, April 05, 2003 6:19 PM

[vedic astrology] Rajeev

Rajeev,I do not know how to start or proceed. But I do not understand why are

you here when you trickily disrespect a very important branch of vedic