Sadesati

April 9, 2003

Dear Sushmita,

With the blessings of Guru Sri Sanjay Rath, Guru Sri Narsimha Rao and

others, I have tried to answer some of your queries to the best of my

knowledge.

> 1. Is every Sadesati real bad.

No. I have seen some charts of famous personalities where they have

come to power during Sadesati. In every article that I have read on

Sadesati they usually say that whether Sade Sati would be good or bad

depends on the positioning of Saturn and the aspects it receives in

the native's lagna chart.

> 2. Which is the worst one, the first 2 and half or the last.

If Sadesati is going to be bad for a native then what I have heard is

that the first 2.5 years are the worst whereas the following 5 years

are comparatively better.

> 3. Sat in 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is Sadesati, does it

start as soon as it enters the sign or say somewhere I read that a

learned astrologer called Mr. Katwe has said that it starts at 45 deg

before the position of the longitude of natal moon.

I have read this concept somewhere too. But I don't know if this is

the true.

> 4. Can sadesati be applied to natal Lagna, Sun lagna and Arudha

lagna also. If yes is their a comparision scale.

Don't know. I would love to hear what Gurujis have to say about this.

> 5. Most imp, what is the most effective remedial measure to ward

off the evils of sadesati.

There are two categories of remedies that you can perform to ward-off

the bad effects associated with Sadesati - Spiritual/Devotional and

Tantric.

In my personal opinion, I would never recommend somebody to go for

tantric remedies for Sadesati (for example, keeping a horse shoe ring

in the house or keeping a Shani Yantra in the house, et al). I always

prefer and recommend purely devotional/spiritual remedies such as -

Going to temple every saturday and reciting Hanuman Chalisa, reciting

Vishnu Sahasra Namam every Saturday (if not everyday), fasting on

saturdays, et al.

> 6. As saturn is the karma signifactor, does it mean that during

each sadesati it teaches us some specific lessons, do the lessons

relate to the bhavas or is there some esoteric meaning to it all.

You got it right. Saturn is not evil. It is a teacher who knows how

to punish a notorious student. It teaches us not to do bad. During

its transit through 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon it teaches us

that we have to pay for whatever bad karma we did in the past. It

teaches us a very important lesson of life that for every action

(especially bad ones) there is a reaction.

> 7. To judge the effects of Sadesati, how do we co-relate and

ascertain Ashtakvarga in its transit.

I have heard people say that whether the sadesati would be severely

bad or not can be seen from the bindus that Saturn has contributed to

the rashi from which it is transiting in Ashtakvarga. If Saturn has

contributed less than 4 bindus to the rashi from which it is

transiting, then that transit is going to be pretty bad. But I am

sure, Gurujis would have further to say in this matter.

Namaste.

Rageshwari.

vedic astrology, Sushmita S <sushmita34>

wrote:

>

> Dear Learned members,

>

> Just saw some posts on the transit of Saturn, although I am not

running SadeSati, could someone answer a few queries here re this

dreaded transit. Although I am sure, this same query might have been

asked numerous times, but I couldn't find any lessons on this in the

archives.

>

> 1. Is every Sadesati real bad.

>

> 2. Which is the worst one, the first 2 and half or the last.

>

> 3. Sat in 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is Sadesati, does it

start as soon as it enters the sign or say somewhere I read that a

learned astrologer called Mr. Katwe has said that it starts at 45 deg

before the position of the longitude of natal moon.

>

> 4. Can sadesati be applied to natal Lagna, Sun lagna and Arudha

lagna also. If yes is their a comparision scale.

>

> 5. Most imp, what is the most effective remedial measure to ward

off the evils of sadesati.

>

> 6. As saturn is the karma signifactor, does it mean that during

each sadesati it teaches us some specific lessons, do the lessons

relate to the bhavas or is there some esoteric meaning to it all.

>

> 7. To judge the effects of Sadesati, how do we co-relate and

ascertain Ashtakvarga in its transit.

>

> Thanks in advance, hope I am not disturbing any ongoing

discussions. Oh, just wanted to try my hand at answering partially

one post by a gentleman, re new job, do we have to look at the 5th

lord dasha/antar/pratyantar in D10 chart of the native.

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Sushmita

>

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April 9, 2003

Dear Rageshwari,

Can you please tell me, the Sadesati will happen only on Saturn

Mahadasa or any other Antar / Pratyantar Dasa as well. Please give

an example.

Regards

Rao

vedic astrology, "rageshwari75"

<rageshwari75> wrote:

> Dear Sushmita,

>

> With the blessings of Guru Sri Sanjay Rath, Guru Sri Narsimha Rao

and

> others, I have tried to answer some of your queries to the best of

my

> knowledge.

>

> > 1. Is every Sadesati real bad.

>

> No. I have seen some charts of famous personalities where they have

> come to power during Sadesati. In every article that I have read on

> Sadesati they usually say that whether Sade Sati would be good or

bad

> depends on the positioning of Saturn and the aspects it receives in

> the native's lagna chart.

>

> > 2. Which is the worst one, the first 2 and half or the last.

>

> If Sadesati is going to be bad for a native then what I have heard

is

> that the first 2.5 years are the worst whereas the following 5

years

> are comparatively better.

>

> > 3. Sat in 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is Sadesati, does it

> start as soon as it enters the sign or say somewhere I read that a

> learned astrologer called Mr. Katwe has said that it starts at 45

deg

> before the position of the longitude of natal moon.

>

> I have read this concept somewhere too. But I don't know if this is

> the true.

>

> > 4. Can sadesati be applied to natal Lagna, Sun lagna and Arudha

> lagna also. If yes is their a comparision scale.

>

> Don't know. I would love to hear what Gurujis have to say about

this.

>

> > 5. Most imp, what is the most effective remedial measure to ward

> off the evils of sadesati.

>

> There are two categories of remedies that you can perform to ward-

off

> the bad effects associated with Sadesati - Spiritual/Devotional and

> Tantric.

>

> In my personal opinion, I would never recommend somebody to go for

> tantric remedies for Sadesati (for example, keeping a horse shoe

ring

> in the house or keeping a Shani Yantra in the house, et al). I

always

> prefer and recommend purely devotional/spiritual remedies such as -

> Going to temple every saturday and reciting Hanuman Chalisa,

reciting

> Vishnu Sahasra Namam every Saturday (if not everyday), fasting on

> saturdays, et al.

>

> > 6. As saturn is the karma signifactor, does it mean that during

> each sadesati it teaches us some specific lessons, do the lessons

> relate to the bhavas or is there some esoteric meaning to it all.

>

> You got it right. Saturn is not evil. It is a teacher who knows how

> to punish a notorious student. It teaches us not to do bad. During

> its transit through 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon it teaches us

> that we have to pay for whatever bad karma we did in the past. It

> teaches us a very important lesson of life that for every action

> (especially bad ones) there is a reaction.

>

> > 7. To judge the effects of Sadesati, how do we co-relate and

> ascertain Ashtakvarga in its transit.

>

> I have heard people say that whether the sadesati would be severely

> bad or not can be seen from the bindus that Saturn has contributed

to

> the rashi from which it is transiting in Ashtakvarga. If Saturn has

> contributed less than 4 bindus to the rashi from which it is

> transiting, then that transit is going to be pretty bad. But I am

> sure, Gurujis would have further to say in this matter.

>

> Namaste.

>

> Rageshwari.

>

> vedic astrology, Sushmita S

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Learned members,

> >

> > Just saw some posts on the transit of Saturn, although I am not

> running SadeSati, could someone answer a few queries here re this

> dreaded transit. Although I am sure, this same query might have

been

> asked numerous times, but I couldn't find any lessons on this in

the

> archives.

> >

> > 1. Is every Sadesati real bad.

> >

> > 2. Which is the worst one, the first 2 and half or the last.

> >

> > 3. Sat in 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is Sadesati, does it

> start as soon as it enters the sign or say somewhere I read that a

> learned astrologer called Mr. Katwe has said that it starts at 45

deg

> before the position of the longitude of natal moon.

> >

> > 4. Can sadesati be applied to natal Lagna, Sun lagna and Arudha

> lagna also. If yes is their a comparision scale.

> >

> > 5. Most imp, what is the most effective remedial measure to ward

> off the evils of sadesati.

> >

> > 6. As saturn is the karma signifactor, does it mean that during

> each sadesati it teaches us some specific lessons, do the lessons

> relate to the bhavas or is there some esoteric meaning to it all.

> >

> > 7. To judge the effects of Sadesati, how do we co-relate and

> ascertain Ashtakvarga in its transit.

> >

> > Thanks in advance, hope I am not disturbing any ongoing

> discussions. Oh, just wanted to try my hand at answering partially

> one post by a gentleman, re new job, do we have to look at the 5th

> lord dasha/antar/pratyantar in D10 chart of the native.

> >

> > Warm regards,

> >

> > Sushmita

> >

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April 9, 2003

Dear Rao,

I don't know answer to your question. Fortunately, Gurujis might

comment on this.

Namaste.

Rageshwari.

vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" <raonemani>

wrote:

> Dear Rageshwari,

>

> Can you please tell me, the Sadesati will happen only on Saturn

> Mahadasa or any other Antar / Pratyantar Dasa as well. Please give

> an example.

>

> Regards

> Rao

> vedic astrology, "rageshwari75"

> <rageshwari75> wrote:

> > Dear Sushmita,

> >

> > With the blessings of Guru Sri Sanjay Rath, Guru Sri Narsimha Rao

> and

> > others, I have tried to answer some of your queries to the best

of

> my

> > knowledge.

> >

> > > 1. Is every Sadesati real bad.

> >

> > No. I have seen some charts of famous personalities where they

have

> > come to power during Sadesati. In every article that I have read

on

> > Sadesati they usually say that whether Sade Sati would be good or

> bad

> > depends on the positioning of Saturn and the aspects it receives

in

> > the native's lagna chart.

> >

> > > 2. Which is the worst one, the first 2 and half or the last.

> >

> > If Sadesati is going to be bad for a native then what I have

heard

> is

> > that the first 2.5 years are the worst whereas the following 5

> years

> > are comparatively better.

> >

> > > 3. Sat in 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is Sadesati, does

it

> > start as soon as it enters the sign or say somewhere I read that

a

> > learned astrologer called Mr. Katwe has said that it starts at 45

> deg

> > before the position of the longitude of natal moon.

> >

> > I have read this concept somewhere too. But I don't know if this

is

> > the true.

> >

> > > 4. Can sadesati be applied to natal Lagna, Sun lagna and Arudha

> > lagna also. If yes is their a comparision scale.

> >

> > Don't know. I would love to hear what Gurujis have to say about

> this.

> >

> > > 5. Most imp, what is the most effective remedial measure to

ward

> > off the evils of sadesati.

> >

> > There are two categories of remedies that you can perform to ward-

> off

> > the bad effects associated with Sadesati - Spiritual/Devotional

and

> > Tantric.

> >

> > In my personal opinion, I would never recommend somebody to go

for

> > tantric remedies for Sadesati (for example, keeping a horse shoe

> ring

> > in the house or keeping a Shani Yantra in the house, et al). I

> always

> > prefer and recommend purely devotional/spiritual remedies such

as -

> > Going to temple every saturday and reciting Hanuman Chalisa,

> reciting

> > Vishnu Sahasra Namam every Saturday (if not everyday), fasting on

> > saturdays, et al.

> >

> > > 6. As saturn is the karma signifactor, does it mean that during

> > each sadesati it teaches us some specific lessons, do the lessons

> > relate to the bhavas or is there some esoteric meaning to it all.

> >

> > You got it right. Saturn is not evil. It is a teacher who knows

how

> > to punish a notorious student. It teaches us not to do bad.

During

> > its transit through 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon it teaches

us

> > that we have to pay for whatever bad karma we did in the past. It

> > teaches us a very important lesson of life that for every action

> > (especially bad ones) there is a reaction.

> >

> > > 7. To judge the effects of Sadesati, how do we co-relate and

> > ascertain Ashtakvarga in its transit.

> >

> > I have heard people say that whether the sadesati would be

severely

> > bad or not can be seen from the bindus that Saturn has

contributed

> to

> > the rashi from which it is transiting in Ashtakvarga. If Saturn

has

> > contributed less than 4 bindus to the rashi from which it is

> > transiting, then that transit is going to be pretty bad. But I am

> > sure, Gurujis would have further to say in this matter.

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > Rageshwari.

> >

> > vedic astrology, Sushmita S

> <sushmita34>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Learned members,

> > >

> > > Just saw some posts on the transit of Saturn, although I am not

> > running SadeSati, could someone answer a few queries here re this

> > dreaded transit. Although I am sure, this same query might have

> been

> > asked numerous times, but I couldn't find any lessons on this in

> the

> > archives.

> > >

> > > 1. Is every Sadesati real bad.

> > >

> > > 2. Which is the worst one, the first 2 and half or the last.

> > >

> > > 3. Sat in 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is Sadesati, does

it

> > start as soon as it enters the sign or say somewhere I read that

a

> > learned astrologer called Mr. Katwe has said that it starts at 45

> deg

> > before the position of the longitude of natal moon.

> > >

> > > 4. Can sadesati be applied to natal Lagna, Sun lagna and Arudha

> > lagna also. If yes is their a comparision scale.

> > >

> > > 5. Most imp, what is the most effective remedial measure to

ward

> > off the evils of sadesati.

> > >

> > > 6. As saturn is the karma signifactor, does it mean that during

> > each sadesati it teaches us some specific lessons, do the lessons

> > relate to the bhavas or is there some esoteric meaning to it all.

> > >

> > > 7. To judge the effects of Sadesati, how do we co-relate and

> > ascertain Ashtakvarga in its transit.

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance, hope I am not disturbing any ongoing

> > discussions. Oh, just wanted to try my hand at answering

partially

> > one post by a gentleman, re new job, do we have to look at the

5th

> > lord dasha/antar/pratyantar in D10 chart of the native.

> > >

> > > Warm regards,

> > >

> > > Sushmita

> > >

> > > Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more

April 9, 2003

Om Gurave Namah

Om Namo Narayanaya

Dear Rao

The occurence of Sade Sathi has nothing to do with any Maha dasa or

any sub-dasas in operation. It only refers to the period of 7- 1/2

years during which Saturn will transit 12th, 1st and 2nd from Natal

Moon.

On the other hand, if the Maha dasa or sub-dasas are favourable and

depending on placement of natal Saturn, one can reckon the intensity

of Sade Sathi period for a native.

The archives carry some interesting posts on Sade Sathi. You may like

to refer to them.

Reciting Sri Vishnu Sahasranamam, Worshipping Lord Ayyappan (Sri

Dharma Sastha) of Sabarimala (in Kerala), Sri Hanuman and Sri

Saniswaran (Thirunallar in Tamil Nadu) are common but powerful

remedies to live through Sade Sathi. Reciting Rudram-Chamakam and/or

Narayana Kavacham are also very powerful remedies for Sade Sathi.

Offering black dhoti to Lord Saniswaran on Saturday is also a good

remedy.

I believe there is an ancient Saniswaran temple somewhere in

Maharashtra, a visit to which also lessens the impact of Sade Sathi.

At the end of Sade Sathi, believe me, every native would have learnt

a lot in this life and he/she would literally begin to like Lord

Saniswaran. Saturn is undoubtedly a good teacher.

Best wishes

R. Kasthuri Rangan

April 9, 2003

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Just a few thoughts to add to others' brilliant responses.

-

Sushmita S

vedic astrology

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 2:18 PM

[vedic astrology] Sadesati

Dear Learned members,

Just saw some posts on the transit of Saturn, although I am not running

SadeSati, could someone answer a few queries here re this dreaded transit.

Although I am sure, this same query might have been asked numerous times, but I

couldn't find any lessons on this in the archives.

1. Is every Sadesati real bad.

The responsibility of Saturn's transit is to activate the bad karma in the

houses, so usually some suffering may be expected. Life in the material world

is not heavenly, after all. But if Saturn is a functional benefic, like for

Taurus or Libra Lagna, of course he may also activate Raja yogas, as we should

not forget that the Moon is responsible for maintianing the Raja-yogas.

The level of suffering should be decided on the basis of antal placements and

Astakavargas. Also I would like to draw your attention to the Avasthas of natal

Saturn.

2. Which is the worst one, the first 2 and half or the last.

Depends on chart, and the sign being sisrsodaya or pristhodaya.

3. Sat in 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is Sadesati, does it start as soon

as it enters the sign or say somewhere I read that a learned astrologer called

Mr. Katwe has said that it starts at 45 deg before the position of the longitude

of natal moon.

Usually taken to start when it enters, but will strengthen as it approaches

certain angular distances. However this can be analysed on the basis of Varga

transits as far as I'm concerned, not angular aspectls like orbs.

4. Can sadesati be applied to natal Lagna, Sun lagna and Arudha lagna also. If

yes is their a comparision scale.

To some extent it will affect any hose it transits. The tradition links it to

the Moon most strongly because the mind is the element through which we

experience suffering. So mental suffering is usually more troublesome then

physical (Sun or Lagna) or the loss in reputation (AL or GL).

5. Most imp, what is the most effective remedial measure to ward off the evils of sadesati.

As I have stated previously, I would recommend Vishnu Sahasranaama chanted every

morning, coupled with Sri Suktam. I have the first on my website, the second one

still needs to be typed up. Any volunteers who can type it up in Devanagari and

translit 99 font please contact mem in private. These two stotras, along wioth

Purusha Suktam, are the best Sattvic, in fact, transcendental remedial

measures. Plus feeding the brahmins is also highly recommended.

6. As saturn is the karma signifactor, does it mean that during each sadesati it

teaches us some specific lessons, do the lessons relate to the bhavas or is

there some esoteric meaning to it all.

Definitely, the meaning of Saturn in the chart is very deep. Rahu nad Ketu are

also usually taken as karmic ondes, but ntheir effects are usually either too

subtle or too gross (accidents etc.) to be able to leanr from them. However

Saturn usually gives prolongated suffering, which gives us time to think what

we should learn from it. So Saturn's position should be studied in all

divisional charts right from D-60. The perspectives to study it from are: Bhava

placement, Chara Karakatwa and yogas in which it takes part.

7. To judge the effects of Sadesati, how do we co-relate and ascertain

Ashtakvarga in its transit.

If Bhinnastakavarga of Saturn in the respective houses of Rasi or Varga charts

that it transits are high, the malefic effect is taken to be less. But actually

for transits I thin Sarvatobhadra Chakra and the whole Nakshatra-based

concenption would give much more accurate results, as far as I thin. I still

have to work this out, as I will teach this from September in the 4th year of

my Jyotish school in Hungary.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies:

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839

Thanks in advance, hope I am not disturbing any ongoing discussions. Oh, just

wanted to try my hand at answering partially one post by a gentleman, re new

job, do we have to look at the 5th lord dasha/antar/pratyantar in D10 chart of

the native.

Warm regards,

Sushmita

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Dear Sushmita,

Here are my views / answers on Sade-sati.

-

Sushmita S

vedic astrology

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 5:48 PM

[vedic astrology] Sadesati

Dear Learned members,

Just saw some posts on the transit of Saturn, although I am not running

SadeSati, could someone answer a few queries here re this dreaded transit.

Although I am sure, this same query might have been asked numerous times, but I

couldn't find any lessons on this in the archives.

1. Is every Sadesati real bad.

Sade-sati period is generally very bad in terms of punishment. A lot depends on

other factors also like dasa of planets, ashtakvarga of houses (12th, 1st, 2nd

from Moon). This period of Saturn is to punish the native for the bad-karmas of

his previous birth. If at the time of marriage, the boy or girl is running

sade-sati, they will be blessed with the child late.

2. Which is the worst one, the first 2 and half or the last.

Transit Saturn in the 12th from Moon gives problems related to marriage-life,

chnge in residence, in the lagna to health / self, danger from accidents and in

the 2nd to wealth / finance, danger from government action. The more you're

attached to, the worst it will be.

3. Sat in 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is Sadesati, does it start as soon

as it enters the sign or say somewhere I read that a learned astrologer called

Mr. Katwe has said that it starts at 45 deg before the position of the longitude

of natal moon.

It wll start preparing for the stage as soon the sade-sati starts.

4. Can sadesati be applied to natal Lagna, Sun lagna and Arudha lagna also. If

yes is their a comparision scale.

Sade-Sati can only be applied when Saturn transit the lagna and not when 12th or

2nd from lagna. It's terrible in AL. I don't think Sade-Sati can be linked with

Sun.

5. Most imp, what is the most effective remedial measure to ward off the evils of sadesati.

When Saturn is in 12th from Moon:

Worship Sri Kali Ma in addition to the Graha Manta of Saturn

When Saturn is with Moon:

Worship Sri hanuman in addition to the Beeja Mantra of Saturn

When Saturn is in 2nd from Moon

Worship Sri Krishna as well as Saturn

Also, remember when Goddess Durga killed Mahishasur demon, she is called

"Mahishasur-Mardini". It is this particular form of Durga that Saturn is

terrible scared of. Thus, worshipping Goddess Durga in this form will

definately remove all the problems given by Saturn.

6. As saturn is the karma signifactor, does it mean that during each sadesati it

teaches us some specific lessons, do the lessons relate to the bhavas or is

there some esoteric meaning to it all.

Yes, the role of Sade-sati is to teach the native the lesson of detachment. The

more we're attached to our karmas and its results, the more severe will be this

period. Since, all this period relates to Moon (mind), it gives more of mental

problems rather than physical.

7. To judge the effects of Sadesati, how do we co-relate and ascertain

Ashtakvarga in its transit.

If the house occupied by Saturn is having 28 or more than 28 bindus, the

negative effects of Saturn will be less. It also depends on how many bindus

Saturn has contributed there.

Thanks in advance, hope I am not disturbing any ongoing discussions. Oh, just

wanted to try my hand at answering partially one post by a gentleman, re new

job, do we have to look at the 5th lord dasha/antar/pratyantar in D10 chart of

the native.

Regarding new job, if he is changing the job, there must be some involvment of

lagna lord with 8H/8L, if he is resigning. If he is getting better position,

see GL with 5H/5L. If more financial prospects, see HL.

Warm regards,

Sushmita

Gopal Krishan Doda

Om Krishana Guru

April 9, 2003

Illuminating discussion. But, 4 points in AV for Sat is not bad. Average for Sat

is 3.25, Sat gives results even with 2 points.

Anybody can help me obtain the books of Late Sh Katwe, noted Marathi astrologer.

Praveen Kumar (Mumbai)

-

rageshwari75

vedic astrology

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 6:54 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Sadesati

Dear Sushmita,With the blessings of Guru Sri Sanjay Rath, Guru Sri Narsimha Rao

and others, I have tried to answer some of your queries to the best of my

knowledge.> 1. Is every Sadesati real bad.No. I have seen some charts of famous

personalities where they have come to power during Sadesati. In every article

that I have read on Sadesati they usually say that whether Sade Sati would be

good or bad depends on the positioning of Saturn and the aspects it receives in

the native's lagna chart.> 2. Which is the worst one, the first 2 and half or

the last.If Sadesati is going to be bad for a native then what I have heard is

that the first 2.5 years are the worst whereas the following 5 years are

comparatively better.> 3. Sat in 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is Sadesati,

does it start as soon as it enters the sign or say somewhere I read that a

learned astrologer called Mr. Katwe has said that it starts at 45 deg before

the position of the longitude of natal moon.I have read this concept somewhere

too. But I don't know if this is the true.> 4. Can sadesati be applied to natal

Lagna, Sun lagna and Arudha lagna also. If yes is their a comparision

scale.Don't know. I would love to hear what Gurujis have to say about this.> 5.

Most imp, what is the most effective remedial measure to ward off the evils of

sadesati.There are two categories of remedies that you can perform to ward-off

the bad effects associated with Sadesati - Spiritual/Devotional and Tantric.In

my personal opinion, I would never recommend somebody to go for tantric

remedies for Sadesati (for example, keeping a horse shoe ring in the house or

keeping a Shani Yantra in the house, et al). I always prefer and recommend

purely devotional/spiritual remedies such as - Going to temple every saturday

and reciting Hanuman Chalisa, reciting Vishnu Sahasra Namam every Saturday (if

not everyday), fasting on saturdays, et al.> 6. As saturn is the karma

signifactor, does it mean that during each sadesati it teaches us some specific

lessons, do the lessons relate to the bhavas or is there some esoteric meaning

to it all.You got it right. Saturn is not evil. It is a teacher who knows how

to punish a notorious student. It teaches us not to do bad. During its transit

through 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon it teaches us that we have to pay for

whatever bad karma we did in the past. It teaches us a very important lesson of

life that for every action (especially bad ones) there is a reaction.> 7. To

judge the effects of Sadesati, how do we co-relate and ascertain Ashtakvarga in

its transit.I have heard people say that whether the sadesati would be severely

bad or not can be seen from the bindus that Saturn has contributed to the rashi

from which it is transiting in Ashtakvarga. If Saturn has contributed less than

4 bindus to the rashi from which it is transiting, then that transit is going

to be pretty bad. But I am sure, Gurujis would have further to say in this

matter.

April 9, 2003

NamasShivaaya!

Dear PraveenKumar,

I thought there were no fractional numbers in AshtakaVarga. You say

Avg 3.25 points for Saturn? Could you please tell me how to determine

the AVG points for planets in AV?

Best Regards,

-Suresh.

vedic astrology, "Praveen Kumar"

<chunnu2001@v...> wrote:

> Illuminating discussion. But, 4 points in AV for Sat is not bad.

Average for Sat is 3.25, Sat gives results even with 2 points.

>

> Anybody can help me obtain the books of Late Sh Katwe, noted

Marathi astrologer.

>

> Praveen Kumar (Mumbai)

> -

> rageshwari75

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, April 09, 2003 6:54 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Sadesati

>

> Dear Sushmita,

>

> With the blessings of Guru Sri Sanjay Rath, Guru Sri Narsimha Rao

and

> others, I have tried to answer some of your queries to the best

of my

> knowledge.

>

> > 1. Is every Sadesati real bad.

>

> No. I have seen some charts of famous personalities where they

have

> come to power during Sadesati. In every article that I have read

on

> Sadesati they usually say that whether Sade Sati would be good or

bad

> depends on the positioning of Saturn and the aspects it receives

in

> the native's lagna chart.

>

> > 2. Which is the worst one, the first 2 and half or the last.

>

> If Sadesati is going to be bad for a native then what I have

heard is

> that the first 2.5 years are the worst whereas the following 5

years

> are comparatively better.

>

> > 3. Sat in 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is Sadesati, does

it

> start as soon as it enters the sign or say somewhere I read that

a

> learned astrologer called Mr. Katwe has said that it starts at 45

deg

> before the position of the longitude of natal moon.

>

> I have read this concept somewhere too. But I don't know if this

is

> the true.

>

> > 4. Can sadesati be applied to natal Lagna, Sun lagna and Arudha

> lagna also. If yes is their a comparision scale.

>

> Don't know. I would love to hear what Gurujis have to say about

this.

>

> > 5. Most imp, what is the most effective remedial measure to

ward

> off the evils of sadesati.

>

> There are two categories of remedies that you can perform to ward-

off

> the bad effects associated with Sadesati - Spiritual/Devotional

and

> Tantric.

>

> In my personal opinion, I would never recommend somebody to go

for

> tantric remedies for Sadesati (for example, keeping a horse shoe

ring

> in the house or keeping a Shani Yantra in the house, et al). I

always

> prefer and recommend purely devotional/spiritual remedies such

as -

> Going to temple every saturday and reciting Hanuman Chalisa,

reciting

> Vishnu Sahasra Namam every Saturday (if not everyday), fasting on

> saturdays, et al.

>

> > 6. As saturn is the karma signifactor, does it mean that during

> each sadesati it teaches us some specific lessons, do the lessons

> relate to the bhavas or is there some esoteric meaning to it all.

>

> You got it right. Saturn is not evil. It is a teacher who knows

how

> to punish a notorious student. It teaches us not to do bad.

During

> its transit through 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon it teaches

us

> that we have to pay for whatever bad karma we did in the past. It

> teaches us a very important lesson of life that for every action

> (especially bad ones) there is a reaction.

>

> > 7. To judge the effects of Sadesati, how do we co-relate and

> ascertain Ashtakvarga in its transit.

>

> I have heard people say that whether the sadesati would be

severely

> bad or not can be seen from the bindus that Saturn has

contributed to

> the rashi from which it is transiting in Ashtakvarga. If Saturn

has

> contributed less than 4 bindus to the rashi from which it is

> transiting, then that transit is going to be pretty bad. But I am

> sure, Gurujis would have further to say in this matter.

April 10, 2003

Dear Mr. Gopal,

Thanks so much for your reply, also many thanks to Raageshwari and

others also.

I had one more query on your answer re remedial measures.

> 5. Most imp, what is the most effective remedial measure to ward

off the evils of sadesati.

>

> When Saturn is in 12th from Moon:

>

> Worship Sri Kali Ma in addition to the Graha Manta of Saturn

>

> When Saturn is with Moon:

>

> Worship Sri hanuman in addition to the Beeja Mantra of Saturn

>

> When Saturn is in 2nd from Moon

>

> Worship Sri Krishna as well as Saturn

>

> Also, remember when Goddess Durga killed Mahishasur demon, she is

called "Mahishasur-Mardini". It is this particular form of Durga that

Saturn is terrible scared of. Thus, worshipping Goddess Durga in this

form will definately remove all the problems given by Saturn.

Sushmita: How exactly does one worship Mahishasur-Mardini, should one

go to her temple, are you from bombay, would you know where this

temple is in bombay. I really was surprised at the detail of Saturn

in different houses and respective remedial measures.

6. As saturn is the karma signifactor, does it mean that during

each sadesati it teaches us some specific lessons, do the lessons

relate to the bhavas or is there some esoteric meaning to it all.

>

> Yes, the role of Sade-sati is to teach the native the lesson of

detachment. The more we're attached to our karmas and its results,

the more severe will be this period. Since, all this period relates

to Moon (mind), it gives more of mental problems rather than

physical.

Sushmita: So, I was right, I was also thinking that detachment or

patience would be the lesson Shani Devta wants to teach us.

Warm regards,

Sushmita.

April 10, 2003

Dear Rageshwari,

Thanks so much for your reply, very illuminating.

I have been thinking on your reply on remedial measures, am not

trying to question your authority, but just a thought from my end,

well you had mentioned that tantric remedies might not be

appropriate. U see I am not a learned scholar, still I was thinking

that tantric remedies was prescribed by our ancient rishis, correct

me here pls if I am wrong, so if they prescribed these remedies

thinking that it is not possible for lay man to recite tough mantras,

there might be a reason for their prescribtion.

Could you throw more light on this stream of thoughts and on

different tantric remedies.

Pls do keep in mind that I am not questioning your authority.

Cheers and warm regards,

Sushmita

> > > > 5. Most imp, what is the most effective remedial measure to

> ward

> > > off the evils of sadesati.

> > >

> > > There are two categories of remedies that you can perform to

ward-

> > off

> > > the bad effects associated with Sadesati - Spiritual/Devotional

> and

> > > Tantric.

> > >

> > > In my personal opinion, I would never recommend somebody to go

> for

> > > tantric remedies for Sadesati (for example, keeping a horse

shoe

> > ring

> > > in the house or keeping a Shani Yantra in the house, et al). I

> > always

> > > prefer and recommend purely devotional/spiritual remedies such

> as -

> > > Going to temple every saturday and reciting Hanuman Chalisa,

> > reciting

> > > Vishnu Sahasra Namam every Saturday (if not everyday), fasting

on

> > > saturdays, et al.

> > >

April 10, 2003

Dear Gauranga,

Thanks for the extremely illuminating reply.

I have few more doubts which I add below at the respective places.

>

> 1. Is every Sadesati real bad.

>

> The responsibility of Saturn's transit is to activate the bad

karma in the houses, so usually some suffering may be expected. Life

in the material world is not heavenly, after all. But if Saturn is a

functional benefic, like for Taurus or Libra Lagna, of course he may

also activate Raja yogas, as we should not forget that the Moon is

responsible for maintianing the Raja-yogas.

>

> The level of suffering should be decided on the basis of antal

placements and Astakavargas. Also I would like to draw your attention

to the Avasthas of natal Saturn.

>

> 2. Which is the worst one, the first 2 and half or the last.

>

> Depends on chart, and the sign being sisrsodaya or pristhodaya.

Sushmita: Which sign should we look at, the Moon sign ? or all the 3

signs.

3. Sat in 12th, 1st and 2nd from natal moon is Sadesati, does it

start as soon as it enters the sign or say somewhere I read that a

learned astrologer called Mr. Katwe has said that it starts at 45 deg

before the position of the longitude of natal moon.

>

> Usually taken to start when it enters, but will strengthen as it

approaches certain angular distances. However this can be analysed on

the basis of Varga transits as far as I'm concerned, not angular

aspectls like orbs.

>

> 4. Can sadesati be applied to natal Lagna, Sun lagna and Arudha

lagna also. If yes is their a comparision scale.

>

> To some extent it will affect any hose it transits. The tradition

links it to the Moon most strongly because the mind is the element

through which we experience suffering. So mental suffering is usually

more troublesome then physical (Sun or Lagna) or the loss in

reputation (AL or GL).

Sushmita: Thanks for this reply, but then does it mean that in its 30

yr cycle it would be giving bad results in most of the places, taking

into consideration transit effects, sadesati, 8th and 4th Saturn, and

then AL, GL, and on other thoughts how much savings can the dasha

periods do when evil transits of Saturn are operating.

> 5. Most imp, what is the most effective remedial measure to ward

off the evils of sadesati.

>

> As I have stated previously, I would recommend Vishnu

Sahasranaama chanted every morning, coupled with Sri Suktam. I have

the first on my website, the second one still needs to be typed up.

Any volunteers who can type it up in Devanagari and translit 99 font

please contact mem in private. These two stotras, along wioth Purusha

Suktam, are the best Sattvic, in fact, transcendental remedial

measures. Plus feeding the brahmins is also highly recommended.

Sushmita : Gaurangaji, it would be real nice if you could have the

above mentioned mantras on your website, if I could type sanskrit I

would be of help but alas my lack of that skill and schedules don't

permit me, I hope many kind people from this list would come forward

for this noble task.

Another query comes to my mind here, what if a westerner is going

through the sadesati, she/he would not be able to recite the mantras,

how can we help such a native. I mean for vedic astrology to grow

into a global science spreading across continents, can we have some

form of effective remedies which anyone can do irrespective of

caste , creed and background.

> 6. As saturn is the karma signifactor, does it mean that during

each sadesati it teaches us some specific lessons, do the lessons

relate to the bhavas or is there some esoteric meaning to it all.

>

> Definitely, the meaning of Saturn in the chart is very deep. Rahu

nad Ketu are also usually taken as karmic ondes, but ntheir effects

are usually either too subtle or too gross (accidents etc.) to be

able to leanr from them. However Saturn usually gives prolongated

suffering, which gives us time to think what we should learn from it.

So Saturn's position should be studied in all divisional charts right

from D-60. The perspectives to study it from are: Bhava placement,

Chara Karakatwa and yogas in which it takes part.

Sushmita: Sir, does it also mean that one needs to look at all

Divisional charts, I presume one would be then running Sadesati in

say D-10, although she/he might not be running sadesati in D-1.

Furthering on this thought process, I presume one would be running

sadesati in several areas of one's life at any point of time.

I also do understand that other considerations that you have

mentioned are to be taken into account. I would like to ask a favor

here, can you expand on how exactly to interpret the diff Avasthas to

sadesati, Vedhas and all the other imp points that you have mentioned

in this article of yours with any example chart, it really would help

beginners like me to learn the science systematically and learning

how to see several points all at the same time. Theory with example

really helps the theory to seep in the mind.

Thanks for your post and also in advance for your article.

Many thanks to others who have contributed and whom I have not named

here.

Warm Regards,

Sushmita

> 7. To judge the effects of Sadesati, how do we co-relate and

ascertain Ashtakvarga in its transit.

>

> If Bhinnastakavarga of Saturn in the respective houses of Rasi or

Varga charts that it transits are high, the malefic effect is taken

to be less. But actually for transits I thin Sarvatobhadra Chakra and

the whole Nakshatra-based concenption would give much more accurate

results, as far as I thin. I still have to work this out, as I will

teach this from September in the 4th year of my Jyotish school in

Hungary.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> gauranga@b...

> Jyotish Remedies:

> WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> Phone:+36-309-140-839

>

April 10, 2003

1)In general, what is/are the ways (remedy) to lessen affliction by natal

Saturn?2)Should I recite the beeja mantra of Saturn?3)What are the other ways

to remedy affliction of Saturn in natal kundali? (I have no temple nearby my

city.)4)From what site I can get english text/audio of mantras used to lessen

saturn's affliction?

Thanks in advance and regardsS.

vedic astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...> wrote:>

JAYA JAGANNATHA!> > Just a few thoughts to add to others' brilliant responses.>

- > Sushmita S > To:

vedic astrology > Wednesday, April 09, 2003 2:18 PM>

[vedic astrology] Sadesati> > > Dear Learned members,> > Just saw

some posts on the transit of Saturn, although I am not running SadeSati, could

someone answer a few queries here re this dreaded transit. Although I am sure,

this same query might have been asked numerous times, but I couldn't find any

lessons on this in the archives.> > 1. Is every Sadesati real bad.> > The

responsibility of Saturn's transit is to activate the bad karma in the houses,

so usually some suffering may be expected. Life in the material world is not

heavenly, after all. But if Saturn is a functional benefic, like for Taurus or

Libra Lagna, of course he may also activate Raja yogas, as we should not forget

that the Moon is responsible for maintianing the Raja-yogas. > > The level of

suffering should be decided on the basis of antal placements and Astakavargas.

Also I would like to draw your attention to the Avasthas of natal Saturn. > >

2. Which is the worst one, the first 2 and half or the last. > > Depends on

chart, and the sign being sisrsodaya or pristhodaya. > > 3. Sat in 12th, 1st

and 2nd from natal moon is Sadesati, does it start as soon as it enters the

sign or say somewhere I read that a learned astrologer called Mr. Katwe has

said that it starts at 45 deg before the position of the longitude of natal

moon.> > Usually taken to start when it enters, but will strengthen as it

approaches certain angular distances. However this can be analysed on the basis

of Varga transits as far as I'm concerned, not angular aspectls like orbs. > >

4. Can sadesati be applied to natal Lagna, Sun lagna and Arudha lagna also. If

yes is their a comparision scale.> > To some extent it will affect any hose

it transits. The tradition links it to the Moon most strongly because the mind

is the element through which we experience suffering. So mental suffering is

usually more troublesome then physical (Sun or Lagna) or the loss in reputation

(AL or GL). > > 5. Most imp, what is the most effective remedial measure to

ward off the evils of sadesati.> > As I have stated previously, I would

recommend Vishnu Sahasranaama chanted every morning, coupled with Sri Suktam. I

have the first on my website, the second one still needs to be typed up. Any

volunteers who can type it up in Devanagari and translit 99 font please contact

mem in private. These two stotras, along wioth Purusha Suktam, are the best

Sattvic, in fact, transcendental remedial measures. Plus feeding the brahmins

is also highly recommended. > > 6. As saturn is the karma signifactor, does

it mean that during each sadesati it teaches us some specific lessons, do the

lessons relate to the bhavas or is there some esoteric meaning to it all.> >

Definitely, the meaning of Saturn in the chart is very deep. Rahu nad Ketu are

also usually taken as karmic ondes, but ntheir effects are usually either too

subtle or too gross (accidents etc.) to be able to leanr from them. However

Saturn usually gives prolongated suffering, which gives us time to think what

we should learn from it. So Saturn's position should be studied in all

divisional charts right from D-60. The perspectives to study it from are: Bhava

placement, Chara Karakatwa and yogas in which it takes part.> > 7. To judge

the effects of Sadesati, how do we co-relate and ascertain Ashtakvarga in its

transit.> > If Bhinnastakavarga of Saturn in the respective houses of Rasi or

Varga charts that it transits are high, the malefic effect is taken to be less.

But actually for transits I thin Sarvatobhadra Chakra and the whole

Nakshatra-based concenption would give much more accurate results, as far as I

thin. I still have to work this out, as I will teach this from September in the

4th year of my Jyotish school in Hungary.> > Yours,> > Gauranga Das Vedic

Astrologer> gauranga@b...> Jyotish Remedies:>

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET> Phone:+36-309-140-839> > > > > > > > > Thanks in

advance, hope I am not disturbing any ongoing discussions. Oh, just wanted to

try my hand at answering partially one post by a gentleman, re new job, do we

have to look at the 5th lord dasha/antar/pratyantar in D10 chart of the

native.> > Warm regards,> > Sushmita> > > > > > > >

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April 10, 2003

Om Krishana Guru

Dear Sushmita,

Here are my views

> Sushmita: How exactly does one worship Mahishasur-Mardini, should one

> go to her temple, are you from bombay, would you know where this

> temple is in bombay. I really was surprised at the detail of Saturn

> in different houses and respective remedial measures.

Sanjay sir has given detailed explanation regarding mantras under

mantrashastra in his famous book "Vedic Remedies in Astrology". The number

of words, alphabets in the mantra, way of worshipping etc everything is

given there. Please refer the book and before starting any mantra, check the

mantra with your respective Guru. As I'm also a student of astrology like

you, I cannot suggest any kind of complete remedial measure.

I'm basically from Sonipat (Haryana) and just few months back, I've shifted

to Delhi. So, I've no idea about any temple of Bombay. The one which I like

is "Vaishno Devi Mandir" in Katra (Jammu).

Gopal Krishan Doda

Om Krishana Guru

April 10, 2003

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Dear Sushmita,

Namaste.

>

> Sushmita: Which sign should we look at, the Moon sign ? or all the 3

> signs.

I guess all 3 signs should be checked, and thus you will get specific

tendencies during Saturn's transit in the 3 signs. Of course the most

determinant is the nature of the Moon's sign.

>

> Sushmita: Thanks for this reply, but then does it mean that in its 30

> yr cycle it would be giving bad results in most of the places, taking

> into consideration transit effects, sadesati, 8th and 4th Saturn, and

> then AL, GL, and on other thoughts how much savings can the dasha

> periods do when evil transits of Saturn are operating.

Yes, some way or other, usually Saturn gives sorrow. Honestly, did you have

any day in your life when you were absolutely free from suffeing? No. Maybe

you just didn't notice it. Or the happiness was much greater than the sorrow

for that one day. But this is the nature of the material world, as Krishna

says. sukha-duhkha follow each other endlessly. For example yesterday

evening I ate a lot of Lasagne, which was very tasty (offered to Krishna)

but I ate too much, so I was feeling uncomfortable after it, and it was

difficult to res and wase up early in the morning. So in this way for every

enjoyment, you must accept some suffering as well. Therefore Saturn always

reminds us not to take too much effort to be happy here in the material

world, rather give up our attachments and surrender to Krishna.

>

> Sushmita : Gaurangaji, it would be real nice if you could have the

> above mentioned mantras on your website, if I could type sanskrit I

> would be of help but alas my lack of that skill and schedules don't

> permit me, I hope many kind people from this list would come forward

> for this noble task.

Yes, Vishnu Sahasranaama is already downloadable, but for Sri suktam I need

some more help.

I give one version here, but the Sanskrit is far from perfection.

SRI SUKTAM

Om Hiranya Varnam Harineem

Survanam Rajatas Rajam

Chandraam Hiranmayim

LakshmeEm Jatavedo Mamaavaha

Sloka 1

O all-knowing fire-god (Agni), would you kindly propitiate Mahalakshmi, the

Goddess of prosperity, one whose body has the golden color; one who is

decked with gold and silver garlands; one whose sari is yellow colored and

one Whose face is like the full moon and whose eyes bless humanity with

soothing grace. O Jata Veda, the fire-god, kindly tell Her of our

supplications.

Taamma Aavaha Jaatavedo

LakshmeEm Ananpagammineem

Yasyaam Hiranmyam Vindeyam

Gaam-Asvam Purusham-Aham

Sloka 2

O, Agni, the great fire-god, with the blessings of Mahalakshmi, wealth and

prosperity, gold and cattle, horses and useful animals, family and children

and every type of prosperity will come to me. By the arrival of Goddess

Lakshmi in my home, the prosperity will be imperishable. Health, friends,

knowledge, everlasting peace and finally freedom -- all these types of

wealth will be mine by the arrival of the Universal Mother, Lakshmi, into my

home.

Aswa-Poorvaam Ratha-MadhyaAm

Hastinaada Prabhodineem

Sriyam Deveem-Upahvahe

Sreemaa Devirjushataam

Sloka 3

That Goddess Lakshmi in whose procession the celestial horses and the divine

chariots are used, as the elephants roar the OM sound which pleases that

Goddess. She being Gajalakshmi or Lakshmi Who is worshiped by the elephants.

O Agni, I am invoking that power, the spouse of Vishnu. May I attain Her

grace.

Kaamsosmkitaam Hiranya PraakaaraamAardraam

Jvalenteem Truptaam Tarpayantim

Padmastitaam PadmavarnaAm

Taamihopahvaye Sriyam

Sloka 4

One Who is sitting on the blossomed thousand-petalled lotus; one whose body

has the color of the lotus; may that great Goddess. The compassionate,

radiant, ever-smiling, fulfiller of all the desires of Her votaries, hear my

prayers. I invoke that Mother, Mahalakshmi of golden color.

Candraamprabhassaam Yasasaajvalantim

Sriyamloke Devajustamudharam

Tam Padmineemim Saranamaham

Prapadye Alakshmeerye

Nasyatam twaam vrine

Sloka 5

I invoke Mahalakshmi Who shines like the full moon and like lightening. Her

fame is all-pervading. Denizens of heaven constantly worship Her. She is

minificent. Her benevolent hands are like lotuses. I take refuge in Her

lotus feet. Let Her destroy my poverty forever. O Mother Mahalakshmi, I take

shelter at Your lotus feet.

Aadityavarne TapasodhijaatoO

Vanaspatistava Vrikshothabilvaha

Tasya Phalaani Tapassaanudantu

Maayaantaraayaastcha Baahyaa Alakshmehim

Sloka 6

O Universal Mother, shining like the sun, it is through Your penance that

the holiest trees of Bilva and Tulasi are born. They symbolize the tree of

life. The fruit of that tree of life removes our poverty from both within

and without. In other words, bless us with inner light and outer

independence and abundance.

Upaitumaam Devasakhaha

Keertishtcha Maninaa Saham

Praddour-booto smit rastresmin

Keerthimrudhim dadaatume

Sloka 7

O Devi, the great Goddess, with Your blessings let Kubera, the treasurer of

the gods; his friend, Manibhadra, the protector of wealth, and Keerti, the

goddess of fame who was the daughter of Daksha Prajapati.

Ksutipaasaamalaam JyesthaAm

Alakshreem naasayaamyaham

Abhootimasamriddhim cha

Sarvadh Nirmuda me grihaat

Sloka 8

That goddess of hunger and thirst, one who is reduced to a skeleton; I would

like the death of the goddess of poverty. O Mahalakshmi, may You kindly

drive away any fear of poverty and inauspiciousness from my home. In other

words, bless me always with abundance and joy.

Gandhadvaraam duradharshaam

Nitya Pushtaam Karishineem

Eesvareehim sarvabhoottaanaam

Taamihopahvaye Sriyam

Sloka 9

I invoke that supreme Goddess Lakshmi to dwell in my home forever. She is

the supreme power of protection and Goddess of all the universes and cosmic

elements. She is Mother Earth, the bestower of great contentment. Her

blessings are bringing us the fragrance of the sandalwood paste. May that

Ishwari be ever present in me.

Manashaha-Kaamamaakootim

Vaachasatya masheemahi

Pashoonam Roopamanasya

Mayi Sreesrayataam Yasaha

Sloka 10

May Mahalakshmi fulfill all my desires. May I attain perfection. May my

words come true. May I be bestowed with cattle, wealth, food, milk and honey

to share with all. May that Sri Devi come to my home in the form of undying

fame.

Kardhamena Prajaabhuttaa Mayi

Sambhava Kardhamam

Sriyam Vaasayame KuleE

Maataram Padma maalineem

Sloka 11

We are the progeny of our forefather, Sage Kardama, who is one of the sons

of Goddess Lakshmi. We invoke that Sage Kardama to install in his family the

Universal Mother, Mahalakshmi, who is decked with the garland of lotuses. So

be it.

Apahasrujantu Snigdhaani Chikleeta

Vasa Me Gruhe

Nicha deveem MaatarahamM Sriyam

Vaasaya Me Kule

Sloka 12

We invoke another son of Lakshmi named Chikleeta. May he dwell in our home

and may his mother, Mahalakshmi, dwell in our family.

Ardraam Pushkarineem Pushtim

Pingalaam Padmamalineem

Chandramm Hirnamayeem LakshmeEm

Jaatavedo Mamaavaha

Sloka 13

O Agni, may You propitiate Mahalakshmi, the destroyer of demons but merciful

to Her devotees, abode of auspiciousness, bestower of total protection,

extraordinarily beautiful, bedecked with valuable ornaments, shining like a

thousand suns; may that Hiranmayi, the golden colored Goddess, be pleased

with us.

Ardraam Yah-Karineem yastiIm

Survarnaam Hemamaalineem

Sooruyamm Hirnamayeem LakshmeEm

Jaatavedo Mamaavaha

Sloka 14

O Agni, the fire-god, I once again pray unto you to invoke the presence of

the Lakshmi Devi with us. The Mother Who is merciful blessings with Her

lotus hand. May that yellow-clad, lotus-garlanded, moon-faced Goddess shower

Her choicest cup of blessings upon us.

Taama Aavaah JaatavedoO

Lakshmmeemanapa-gamineem

Yasyam Hiranyam Prabhootam Gaavo

Daasyoshvam Vindeyam Purushanaham

Sloka 15

O Agni, please pray to that Lakshmi that we should be blessed with

inexhaustible wealth. May that wealth bring that greatest joy and peace

along with all material comforts of cows, servants, horses, family and good

children, and the highest of all, freedom.

Om Mahalakshmyai cha Vidmahe Vishnu

Patnyaicha Dhimahi

Taano LakshmihiprachodayaAta

Om Shanti Shanti Shantihi

Sloka 16

Let that Mahalakshmi be invoked on Whom I meditate upon, Who is the consort

of Lord Vishnu, the Supreme Mother. Let peace prevail everywhere.

> Another query comes to my mind here, what if a westerner is going

> through the sadesati, she/he would not be able to recite the mantras,

> how can we help such a native. I mean for vedic astrology to grow

> into a global science spreading across continents, can we have some

> form of effective remedies which anyone can do irrespective of

> caste , creed and background.

Well, I'm not really in favor of westernizing things. If we practice Vedic

astrology, we are supposed to accept Vedic philosophy, culture and

religiousness, so we can advice worship according to Vedic standards. Of

course this requires proper understanding and guidance from a Guru. If we

want to advise worship of Devatas based on the chart, then we can do it

according to the native's culture, i.e. christianity etc. however this would

require a deeper knowledge of that religious tradition.

> Sushmita: Sir, does it also mean that one needs to look at all

> Divisional charts, I presume one would be then running Sadesati in

> say D-10, although she/he might not be running sadesati in D-1.

> Furthering on this thought process, I presume one would be running

> sadesati in several areas of one's life at any point of time.

> I also do understand that other considerations that you have

> mentioned are to be taken into account. I would like to ask a favor

> here, can you expand on how exactly to interpret the diff Avasthas to

> sadesati, Vedhas and all the other imp points that you have mentioned

> in this article of yours with any example chart, it really would help

> beginners like me to learn the science systematically and learning

> how to see several points all at the same time. Theory with example

> really helps the theory to seep in the mind.

Primary rule is to consider Sade-sathi in Rasi. D-charts are always

subordinate to Rashi. So a Saturn'transit over the Moon in a D-chart alone

will not give such a stroneg effect. As for the rest of the factors, yes,

I'm willing to take up an example chart analysis. Please give your chart or

a chart of your choice.

> Thanks for your post and also in advance for your article.

> Many thanks to others who have contributed and whom I have not named

> here.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

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April 10, 2003

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Dear Shankar,

Namaste.

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Shankar

vedic astrology

Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:39 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Sadesati

Dear Gaurangaji, Rageshwariji and others,I have following questions regarding

Saturn. Please help me:

1)In general, what is/are the ways (remedy) to lessen affliction by natal Saturn?

2)Should I recite the beeja mantra of Saturn?3)What are the other ways to remedy

affliction of Saturn in natal kundali? (I have no temple nearby my city.)4)From

what site I can get english text/audio of mantras used to lessen saturn's

affliction?

www.vedamantram.com has Sri Suktam. It's 3.26 MB. www.svtemple.org has Vishnu

Sahasranaam audio. It's 1.9 MB.