Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 Dear All... This is a very good question.... Because it keeps Astrology/Jyotish on a nice and simple level. And even though there are the traditionally, complex way of answering such questions, ie. Look at all the details of a person's chart, especially the Moon, for Memory, and 4th House, 4th House Lord, dasas periods and even transits... Still there is an even more simple way. For I've discovered, contained within the sentence structure of each question. Are all the details of the concern. So...'What is the solution for overcoming forgetfullness?' So, let's first think about forgetfullness. Most of the time when we ask about forgetfullness, we're meaning 'memory'. And the kind of sluggishness, or absent-mindedness, that either comes with age, or even for younger people... But, the Moon is the primary 'Signification' of memory... and what would 'forgetfullness' connate? I think of 'this' as a 'loss' quality for the Mind, and what Planet is the primary planet of loss? Saturn.... So, we should look to the Moon & Saturn... in many cases the two are intimately related... either in the same house, or aspecting each other... One time, I was taking care of an alzheimer's, man in my town, I was thinking... 'I wonder what is it in his chart that would account for him ending up with Alzheimers?' And immediately I thought what is Alzheimer's? But, loss ... and loss of ...memory... So, I thought ahhhh, that's Moon and....loss?, ahhh, Saturn... 'I wonder if he's got Saturn & Moon challenging each other in his chart?' And when I ran his chart, what did he have but Saturn & Moon together, in fact, within 1 degree of each other! Wow.... I bet this would be a great area of future Jyotish research... to look at 100, or 1000 individuals with Alzheiners and see if we can see a powerful, scientifically, significant, 'correlation' betweeen Moon & saturn! So, especially, if Saturn is the primary cause of 'Forgetfullness'.... then strengthening Saturn.... would be the Jyotish solution, of choice! It's a fascinating puzzle...to then find all the possible Saturn, remedys that we could come up with to Strengthen, Saturn... and correct 'forgetfullness'..... Mark Kincaid next time, we can reflect on what measures can be taken to strengthen Saturn! ---------- vedic astrology chelvy24 <chelvy24 > wrote: OM NAMAH SHIVAYA Respected Guruji & Jyotishas, Pranaams. What is the solution for overcoming forgetfullness? Is there any mantras for this problem. Request you to kindly let me know. Sincerely, Chelvy Harish Kumar ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click./l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/.8XolB/TM ---~-> Your use of is subject to Dear Mr. Kumar, You have to give your birth details for detailed evaluation. If you are a shiva bhaktha, daily you have chant shiva astothara and you can read rudram and chamakam and on mondays, you can do fasting and doing abhishekams to Lord shiva. Regards, Nagesh Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more! Click on India Promos <http://in.promos.> Sponsor Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Mark, If Moon is the significator for memory and Saturn, the significator for loss, wont the strengthening of Saturn cause greater memory loss?? or in other words, why would the strengthening of Saturn reverse the memory loss? Would you not want to strengthen Moon or Jupiter who is the significator for intelligence? regards Hari vedic astrology, "Mark Kincaid" <m.kincaid@m...> wrote: > Dear All... > > This is a very good question.... > > Because it keeps Astrology/Jyotish on a nice and simple level. > And even though there are the traditionally, complex way of answering such > questions, > ie. Look at all the details of a person's chart, especially the Moon, for > Memory, > and 4th House, 4th House Lord, dasas periods and even transits... > > Still there is an even more simple way. > > For I've discovered, contained within the sentence structure of each > question. > > Are all the details of the concern. > > So...'What is the solution for overcoming forgetfullness?' > > So, let's first think about forgetfullness. > > Most of the time when we ask about forgetfullness, we're meaning 'memory'. > > And the kind of sluggishness, or absent-mindedness, that either comes with > age, > or even for younger people... > > But, the Moon is the primary 'Signification' of memory... > > and what would 'forgetfullness' connate? > > I think of 'this' as a 'loss' quality for the Mind, > and what Planet is the primary planet of loss? > > Saturn.... > > So, we should look to the Moon & Saturn... > in many cases the two are intimately related... > either in the same house, or aspecting each other... > > One time, I was taking care of an alzheimer's, man in my town, > I was thinking... > 'I wonder what is it in his chart that would account for him ending up with > Alzheimers?' > > And immediately I thought what is Alzheimer's? > > But, loss ... and loss of ...memory... > > So, I thought ahhhh, that's Moon and....loss?, ahhh, Saturn... > > 'I wonder if he's got Saturn & Moon challenging each other in his chart?' > > And when I ran his chart, what did he have but Saturn & Moon together, in > fact, > within 1 degree of each other! > > Wow.... > > I bet this would be a great area of future Jyotish research... > to look at 100, or 1000 individuals with Alzheiners and see if we can see > a powerful, scientifically, significant, 'correlation' betweeen > Moon & saturn! > > So, especially, if Saturn is the primary cause of 'Forgetfullness'.... > then strengthening Saturn.... > > would be the Jyotish solution, of choice! > > It's a fascinating puzzle...to then find all the possible Saturn, remedys > that we could come up with to Strengthen, Saturn... > and correct 'forgetfullness'..... > > > Mark Kincaid > > > next time, we can reflect on what measures can be taken > to strengthen Saturn! > > > > ---------- > > vedic astrology > > > > > > chelvy24 chelvy24 wrote: > OM NAMAH SHIVAYA > > Respected Guruji & Jyotishas, > > Pranaams. > > What is the solution for overcoming forgetfullness? Is there any > mantras for this problem. > > Request you to kindly let me know. > > Sincerely, > > Chelvy Harish Kumar > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > > Dear Mr. Kumar, > > You have to give your birth details for detailed evaluation. If you are a > shiva bhaktha, daily you have chant shiva astothara and you can read rudram > and chamakam and on mondays, you can do fasting and doing abhishekams to > Lord shiva. > > Regards, > > Nagesh > > Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more! Click on India Promos > <http://in.promos.> > Sponsor > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service > <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 What we find with people who have stronger Saturns, ie. Saturns in their Own Homes, ie. Capricorn or Aquarius, or even Exalted in Libra... Saturn doens't become more malefic, generally... but represents more balance... and if other considerations are good, they tend to have a very settled, nature... and also memory!...is profound... Also, as you said, there can be other considerations as well, and even smallness of Moon could be indicative of a delicate, fragile and even 'forgetfullness'... So, in this case the Moon needs to be strengthened... Watching the Moon wax and wane every month will show you very clearly that the performances of our Moon's...ie... remembering, feeling, and even intuiton... are heightened...when the Moon is bigger! Also, practical experience shows...that most people are experiencing a variety of 'disfunctions' which are immediately improved by 'strenthening Saturn'... things like going to bed earlier, getting more rest, not straining, working so hard... to more complicated things like learning to meditate, doing Yaguas, for Saturn... and even, and one of my favorites...is watching the Sun & Planets themselves... See, Saturn represents timings, and cycles...and rhythms... and you can see a direct correlation between... Saturn grief! or Bliss... and how naturally disciplined or efforless one can abide with nature's rhythms... So, learning to be more in-tune with all the rhythms... like the Sun's cycle.. especially the Moon's monthly cycle...and all the rest... I believe,...strengthens... Saturn powerfully... One of the best things I've discovered in all my years studying Jyotish, was the 'Transits'... When you watch what Nature, herself is doing...it starts to occur to you... hey, if it's good enough for Nature,... I bet I'd get benefit from being more in-tune with those cycles... My most experience has been finding myself, effortlessly, being more in-tune with the Moon cycle... It represents the major cycle of rest and activity of our whole world... and allowing yourself to rest when the Moon is waning and being more outward and dynamic and planning accordingly, when the Moon is waxing! is a tremendous benefit of studying the transits... Try it for a couple of days or weeks... Go to bed a little earlier... Watch how much happier your body and mind's are when you get more regular rest... And watch the Moon's cycle... Right now it's starting to Wax... and it's getting bigger and bigger... enjoy lots of wonderful activities...over the next 10 -12 days.. and then notice that almost immediately when the Moon, crests, and then, starts to get smaller, you feel this automatic....settling, or inwardness 'thing' going on... Allowing yourself to be more in-tune with these 2 aspects of the Moon... will strengthen ...'balance' within yourself... and see if memory, and clarity of mind...is naturally stonger... but also notice that right now Mercury's also Retrograde, so don't confuse that...with 'forgetfulness'! take care Mark Kincaid ps... I create this daily, Transits...newsletter which goes out over the emails... if you'd like to receive a really cool, description of each day's transits! let me know at: m.kincaid (AT) mchsi (DOT) com ... and it's free... ---------- "onlyhari" <onlyhari > vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: VedicAstrol, from Mark, 8/29 re.... forgetfullness... Sat, Aug 30, 2003, 12:06 AM ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Mark, If Moon is the significator for memory and Saturn, the significator for loss, wont the strengthening of Saturn cause greater memory loss?? or in other words, why would the strengthening of Saturn reverse the memory loss? Would you not want to strengthen Moon or Jupiter who is the significator for intelligence? regards Hari vedic astrology, "Mark Kincaid" <m.kincaid@m...> wrote: > Dear All... > > This is a very good question.... > > Because it keeps Astrology/Jyotish on a nice and simple level. > And even though there are the traditionally, complex way of answering such > questions, > ie. Look at all the details of a person's chart, especially the Moon, for > Memory, > and 4th House, 4th House Lord, dasas periods and even transits... > > Still there is an even more simple way. > > For I've discovered, contained within the sentence structure of each > question. > > Are all the details of the concern. > > So...'What is the solution for overcoming forgetfullness?' > > So, let's first think about forgetfullness. > > Most of the time when we ask about forgetfullness, we're meaning 'memory'. > > And the kind of sluggishness, or absent-mindedness, that either comes with > age, > or even for younger people... > > But, the Moon is the primary 'Signification' of memory... > > and what would 'forgetfullness' connate? > > I think of 'this' as a 'loss' quality for the Mind, > and what Planet is the primary planet of loss? > > Saturn.... > > So, we should look to the Moon & Saturn... > in many cases the two are intimately related... > either in the same house, or aspecting each other... > > One time, I was taking care of an alzheimer's, man in my town, > I was thinking... > 'I wonder what is it in his chart that would account for him ending up with > Alzheimers?' > > And immediately I thought what is Alzheimer's? > > But, loss ... and loss of ...memory... > > So, I thought ahhhh, that's Moon and....loss?, ahhh, Saturn... > > 'I wonder if he's got Saturn & Moon challenging each other in his chart?' > > And when I ran his chart, what did he have but Saturn & Moon together, in > fact, > within 1 degree of each other! > > Wow.... > > I bet this would be a great area of future Jyotish research... > to look at 100, or 1000 individuals with Alzheiners and see if we can see > a powerful, scientifically, significant, 'correlation' betweeen > Moon & saturn! > > So, especially, if Saturn is the primary cause of 'Forgetfullness'.... > then strengthening Saturn.... > > would be the Jyotish solution, of choice! > > It's a fascinating puzzle...to then find all the possible Saturn, remedys > that we could come up with to Strengthen, Saturn... > and correct 'forgetfullness'..... > > > Mark Kincaid > > > next time, we can reflect on what measures can be taken > to strengthen Saturn! > > > > ---------- > > vedic astrology > > > > > > chelvy24 chelvy24 wrote: > OM NAMAH SHIVAYA > > Respected Guruji & Jyotishas, > > Pranaams. > > What is the solution for overcoming forgetfullness? Is there any > mantras for this problem. > > Request you to kindly let me know. > > Sincerely, > > Chelvy Harish Kumar > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > > Dear Mr. Kumar, > > You have to give your birth details for detailed evaluation. If you are a > shiva bhaktha, daily you have chant shiva astothara and you can read rudram > and chamakam and on mondays, you can do fasting and doing abhishekams to > Lord shiva. > > Regards, > > Nagesh > > Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more! Click on India Promos > <http://in.promos.> > Sponsor > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service > <> . Sponsor Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 OM Namo Narayanay, Please do not mind, but somehow, it is a bit inconvenient to me to read this type of layout of your mail, I will thus write in a standard manner: Dear All... This is a very good question.... Because it keeps Astrology/Jyotish on a nice and simple level. And even though there are the traditionally, complex way of answering such questions, ie. Look at all the details of a person's chart, especially the Moon, for Memory, and 4th House, 4th House Lord, dasas periods and even transits... Memory and condition of the mind goes into the 5th house, not 4th. It is for that reason that Satyacharya states that during the dashas of the lord of the 5th house when placed in 12th house a person may suffer from abberation of the mind, loss of memory, dementia etc. Karaka for 5th house is Guru, so when Guru is strong, a person will have immense memory. Chandra rules exaltation sign of Guru, so when Chandra is Strong she will also uplif Guru energy, and would seemingly seem to rule the memory, while the true memory lies within DHI, which is known as application of intelligence and falls into porfilio of GUru. Some Jyotisha texts state that Guru in Simhasan avasta will cause remembarance of 3 previous lives, indicating that such will be memory with so well placed guru. Shani as you indicated rules loss of memory but why? Because shani rules debilitation sign of Guru. So when Guru/Shani or Shani -Chandra or Shani badly placed in 5th house, a person will suffer loss of memory. The remedy lies in strenghtening Guru. How? It depends on the individual charts.. Best wishes Zoran Still there is an even more simple way. For I've discovered, contained within the sentence structure of each question. Are all the details of the concern. So...'What is the solution for overcoming forgetfullness?' So, let's first think about forgetfullness. Most of the time when we ask about forgetfullness, we're meaning 'memory'. And the kind of sluggishness, or absent-mindedness, that either comes with age, or even for younger people... But, the Moon is the primary 'Signification' of memory... and what would 'forgetfullness' connate? I think of 'this' as a 'loss' quality for the Mind, and what Planet is the primary planet of loss? Saturn.... So, we should look to the Moon & Saturn... in many cases the two are intimately related... either in the same house, or aspecting each other... One time, I was taking care of an alzheimer's, man in my town, I was thinking... 'I wonder what is it in his chart that would account for him ending up with Alzheimers?' And immediately I thought what is Alzheimer's? But, loss ... and loss of ...memory... So, I thought ahhhh, that's Moon and....loss?, ahhh, Saturn... 'I wonder if he's got Saturn & Moon challenging each other in his chart?' And when I ran his chart, what did he have but Saturn & Moon together, in fact, within 1 degree of each other! Wow.... I bet this would be a great area of future Jyotish research... to look at 100, or 1000 individuals with Alzheiners and see if we can see a powerful, scientifically, significant, 'correlation' betweeen Moon & saturn! So, especially, if Saturn is the primary cause of 'Forgetfullness'.... then strengthening Saturn.... would be the Jyotish solution, of choice! It's a fascinating puzzle...to then find all the possible Saturn, remedys that we could come up with to Strengthen, Saturn... and correct 'forgetfullness'..... Mark Kincaid next time, we can reflect on what measures can be taken to strengthen Saturn! ---------- vedic astrology chelvy24 <chelvy24 > wrote: OM NAMAH SHIVAYA Respected Guruji & Jyotishas, Pranaams. What is the solution for overcoming forgetfullness? Is there any mantras for this problem. Request you to kindly let me know. Sincerely, Chelvy Harish Kumar ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click./l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/.8XolB/TM ---~-> Your use of is subject to Dear Mr. Kumar, You have to give your birth details for detailed evaluation. If you are a shiva bhaktha, daily you have chant shiva astothara and you can read rudram and chamakam and on mondays, you can do fasting and doing abhishekams to Lord shiva. Regards, Nagesh Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more! Click on India Promos <http://in.promos.> Sponsor Terms of Service <> . Archives: vedic astrology Group info: vedic astrology/info.html Terms of Service .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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