Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 shree rajiv ji, it will be hard to prove that astrology does not have any ref in veda as astrology is branch of astronomy .dayanad was a social reformer and he try to put end to social evil of so called pundit sucking blodd and money from poor at hardwar and other hindu matth. i am glad this topic is on as you know dayanad try to stop the idol worship too by snathna dharma . he has to criticise what was dominate aplace for money making business and jesus get mad at trader at jeruslem ttoo basically astrology point out that there is unity between us and the havenly bodies realising that unity we will find out we shoul harmonise with it. would you ignore the effect of moon on the tide of sea so why not on our mind and thougt we are 75% water too. please read carl sagan book candle in darkness his work is almost like dayanad swami but he refuse you agrree astorlogy is fraud. yes there are fraud astrologer. so may be astrologgy higher purpose is tomake us realise the tez of light not just see the light. also in book secret search of india paul burton has a chapter on written in star interesting. i have no interest in making someone to believe in or not in astrology just put my view here. thanks rajinder --- amolmandar <amolmandar wrote: > > Dear Rajeev NAmaste > > It is good that we agree on number of AVedas and > their names. Now > lets move ahead by building confidance. > > I wrote previous mail to avoid unnecesary debate > afterwards. Let it > be clear that I have some references but the problem > may arise that > on hindsight you may put it as astronomy and I may > not agree to it. > This may cause us to loose the point. So lets be > clear what > reference will be Astronomy and what will be > Astrology. In other > words, if you fix up domain of Astronomy it will be > good for me to > examine myself and then to decide to put them as > proof or not. > > > As far as as Jyotish is concerned,it is shastra of > Jyotish. Jyoti is > obtained from celestial bodies.The branch of Jyotish > in which we > study physical nature,such as its redius,color,its > distance from sun > or earth and its speed of rotation is > Astronomy.(right?) > > And the branch of jyotish in which its effect is > express and > accordingly prayer is given then it is not Astronmy > and hence can be > Astrology. Do you agree? Many say that basic of > Astrology is that > Celestial Bodies Affect Our Life(CBAOL). If > this(CBAOL) is > acknowledge in Vedas then it can be said that vedas > have reference > of Astrology. Do you agree with this? > > Lets first fix up line of demarcation between > Astronomy and > Astrology and then move ahead. But be assured that I > do have some > references of Astrology based on CBAOL, in Vedas. > > Thanks alot for your Time and Space. > > AmolMAndar > > vedic astrology, Rajeev Kumar > <satpath1> > wrote: > > Namaste Amolmandar Ji, > > > > Yes I also agree with you that there are 4 vedas > and these are > Rig,Yajur,Sam and Atharva. I have already told that > we have > references to astronomy in Vedas. Please give the > references and > after analysis of the same I will get back to you. > > > > Regards > > > > Rajeev > > > > amolmandar <amolmandar> wrote: > > Dear Rajeev Namaste > > > > Before we get into Good or Bad work and its > relation to God,I will > > try to show some reference of Jyotish and > Astrology in the Vedas. > > For that let me just know will you accept a sukta > or Shloka > > describing that the bodies present in the > Brahmanda do affect our > > life and we should pray for good effects from > them, as proof for > > reference of astrology in any of the four Vedas. > Why I am asking > > this is that I have some shlokas from Vedas > describing this. The > > reference of NAvagraha directly or indirectly in > the Veda will be > > acceptred by you as proof of Astrology in Vedas or > not? So if a > > shloka says that we should pray these hevenly > bodies and these > > bodies should give us Sukha and Shanti then that > should be more > than > > enough as proof or not. Or you want all shlokas > present in > > Astrological Granthas to be present in Vedas? Let > me know this > first > > and then I will produce for you more than one > proof of Jyotish > i.e. > > astrological and not astromonical reference in > Vedas. > > > > One last thing be very clear that Vedas means > 1)Rigveda 2) > Yajurveda > > 3)SamaVeda 4) Atharvaveda. > > > > If you agree on this, please let me know. > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > > > AmolMAndar > > > > > > vedic astrology, Rajeev > Kumar > <satpath1> > > wrote: > > > Namaste AmolMAndar Ji, > > > > > > If every work is work of God then are > adulteration, telling > lies , > > doing fraud with somebody etc. are also work of > God. If we accept > > this then God becomes an adulterator, lier etc. > > > > > > Vedic God does not expect the help of anybody > in doing his work > > because he is all powerful , omniscient. The God > which expects > help > > from anybody is not God but a humanbeing or a > fraud. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Rajeev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amolmandar <amolmandar> wrote: > > > Dear Rajeev Namaste > > > > > > Thanks for the wonderful link. > > > > > > >But here the Astrologers have taken the work of > God in their > > hand, > > > >is it not against Vedas and Gita ???? > > > > > > Dont you feel that every work is 'work' of God. > Why to single > out > > > Astrologers? Moreover, what is wrong in helping > God? > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > AmolMAndar > > > > > > vedic astrology, Rajeev > Kumar > > <satpath1> > > > wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > Astrology is it Vedic ? or we are using the > name Vedas just to > > > brand it as a Vedic science. > > > > > > > > I am of the view that Astrology is not > supported by Vedas . In > > > ManuSmriti it is written that whoever > disobeys/disregard Vedas > is > > an > > > athiest. So those books which are not in > accordance with Vedas > are > > > anti Vedic. > > > > > > > > I am sure that all people on this forum are > not blind and it > > is > > > for them only I am raising this question. > > > > > > > > I have following point to support my views > > > > > > > > Vedas , Gita talk at length about the > philosophy of KARMA > > (Action) > > > and says that you have right to do the action > only and result is > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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