Guest guest Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Jay and Ramadas, Pranaams to you both. With due respect to your opinions, I must however state that I have not found this double transit to work always. A case in point is my own case where Ju & Sa have already transited through the 7th house of Ta with Mo MD running at that time. Marriage did not happen then nor looks likely to happen in the near future. Based on my discussions with Sarajit, I rewrite the double transit principle as follows:- "The double transit of Ju-Sa affecting 7th house or 7th lord can give marriage but the converse is not true." In the cases I have examined, I found that transit effect of Ju on UL or 2nd from UL is more reliable. This however is only my humble observation. As per COVA (if I understand correctly), transit Sa's influence on 7th house or 7th lord will delay the event of marriage unless it be lagna or 7th lord. regards Hari vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay > > om namo näräyaëäya > Dear Jay, > You are correct.I have checked by using this double transit method > and is giving good results. > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, > Ramadas Rao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 Dear Hari, As in many other issues, we lack reliable statistical ´data to "prove" which is working and which is not. K.N.Rao students came up with the 'double transit' as a research result. In my original mail I simply provided the article - not my opinion nor experience. Maybe using both and judging by the outcome over a period of time will give some more stable guidelines. Kind regards Jay Weiss - "onlyhari" <onlyhari <vedic astrology> Monday, September 29, 2003 9:05 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Dear Jay and Ramadas, > > Pranaams to you both. > > With due respect to your opinions, I must however state that I have > not found this double transit to work always. A case in point is my > own case where Ju & Sa have already transited through the 7th house > of Ta with Mo MD running at that time. Marriage did not happen then > nor looks likely to happen in the near future. > > Based on my discussions with Sarajit, I rewrite the double transit > principle as follows:- > > "The double transit of Ju-Sa affecting 7th house or 7th lord can > give marriage but the converse is not true." > > In the cases I have examined, I found that transit effect of Ju on > UL or 2nd from UL is more reliable. This however is only my humble > observation. As per COVA (if I understand correctly), transit Sa's > influence on 7th house or 7th lord will delay the event of marriage > unless it be lagna or 7th lord. > > regards > Hari > > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao > <ramadasrao> wrote: > > > > ` nmae naray[ay > > > > om namo näräyaëäya > > Dear Jay, > > You are correct.I have checked by using this double transit method > > and is giving good results. > > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Hari, I have seen the double transits working but if the natal planets are Vakra,then we have to see the transits in a different view.Also your view about Guru transitting UL is also works out.But according to me transit Shani should also aspect UL Lord as Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Jay and Ramadas,Pranaams to you both.With due respect to your opinions, I must however state that I have not found this double transit to work always. A case in point is my own case where Ju & Sa have already transited through the 7th house of Ta with Mo MD running at that time. Marriage did not happen then nor looks likely to happen in the near future.Based on my discussions with Sarajit, I rewrite the double transit principle as follows:-"The double transit of Ju-Sa affecting 7th house or 7th lord can give marriage but the converse is not true."In the cases I have examined, I found that transit effect of Ju on UL or 2nd from UL is more reliable. This however is only my humble observation. As per COVA (if I understand correctly), transit Sa's influence on 7th house or 7th lord will delay the event of marriage unless it be lagna or 7th lord.regardsHarivedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay> > om namo näräyaëäya> Dear Jay,> You are correct.I have checked by using this double transit method > and is giving good results.> With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,> Ramadas Rao.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Arial;color:navy">|| Jaya Jagannath || Dear Ramadas, Arial;color:navy"> Arial;color:navy">You said “Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen” Does this mean that all the actions in this world should be influenced by Saturn or rather agreed by Saturn? We have different karakas for that while literally mean doers or who bring about those actions. Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:12 AM To: vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas "Sanskrit 99";color:black">` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, font-family:"URW Palladio IT";color:black">om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| "Sanskrit 99";color:black">tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. color:black">tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Hari, I have seen the double transits working but if the natal planets are Vakra,then we have to see the transits in a different view.Also your view about Guru transitting UL is also works out.But according to me transit Shani should also aspect UL Lord as Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao. onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Jay and Ramadas, Pranaams to you both. With due respect to your opinions, I must however state that I have not found this double transit to work always. A case in point is my own case where Ju & Sa have already transited through the 7th house of Ta with Mo MD running at that time. Marriage did not happen then nor looks likely to happen in the near future. Based on my discussions with Sarajit, I rewrite the double transit principle as follows:- "The double transit of Ju-Sa affecting 7th house or 7th lord can give marriage but the converse is not true." In the cases I have examined, I found that transit effect of Ju on UL or 2nd from UL is more reliable. This however is only my humble observation. As per COVA (if I understand correctly), transit Sa's influence on 7th house or 7th lord will delay the event of marriage unless it be lagna or 7th lord. regards Hari vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay > > om namo näräyaëäya > Dear Jay, > You are correct.I have checked by using this double transit method > and is giving good results. > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, > Ramadas Rao. To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your bold">profile. Archives: vedic astrology To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Sarajit, Marriage is a Dharma related activity and to Shani is also a planet who makes a person follow in Dharmic ways.You know that Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a policeman.Nobody or no actions will be performed without his permission.Now Gurucan bless the native for getting married and the marriage will be fixed on such and such date.But as long as Shani does not approve it,the marriage date can be postponed or some other incidents will happen so as to postpone the marriage.As per my knowledge,I have seen a lot charts and they agree on this theory but there may be exceptions which I have to study. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, You said “Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen” Does this mean that all the actions in this world should be influenced by Saturn or rather agreed by Saturn? We have different karakas for that while literally mean doers or who bring about those actions. Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:12 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Hari, I have seen the double transits working but if the natal planets are Vakra,then we have to see the transits in a different view.Also your view about Guru transitting UL is also works out.But according to me transit Shani should also aspect UL Lord as Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Jay and Ramadas,Pranaams to you both.With due respect to your opinions, I must however state that I have not found this double transit to work always. A case in point is my own case where Ju & Sa have already transited through the 7th house of Ta with Mo MD running at that time. Marriage did not happen then nor looks likely to happen in the near future.Based on my discussions with Sarajit, I rewrite the double transit principle as follows:-"The double transit of Ju-Sa affecting 7th house or 7th lord can give marriage but the converse is not true."In the cases I have examined, I found that transit effect of Ju on UL or 2nd from UL is more reliable. This however is only my humble observation. As per COVA (if I understand correctly), transit Sa's influence on 7th house or 7th lord will delay the event of marriage unless it be lagna or 7th lord.regardsHari New">vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay> > om namo näräyaëäya> Dear Jay,> You are correct.I have checked by using this double transit method > and is giving good results.> With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,> Ramadas Rao.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your profile. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Shri Ramadas, Thank you for educating me in this double transit matter. Now you said "...if the natal planets are Vakra,then we have to see the transits in a different view...." May I know how you interpret the double transit if either Ju or Sa or both are retrograde in the natal chart? regards Hari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Arial">|| Jaya Jagannath || Dear Ramadas, Namaste Arial"> Arial">You said “ "Palatino Linotype";color:blue">Shani "Palatino Linotype";color:blue"> is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a policeman” What is the relationship of Shani getting Uccha in Tula Rasi and his controlling the world like a policeman? Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit font-family:Verdana"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Tahoma">Wednesday, October 01, 2003 font-family:Tahoma">2:33 PM To: vedic astrology RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas "Sanskrit 99";color:black">` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, font-family:"URW Palladio IT";color:black">om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| "Sanskrit 99";color:black">tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. color:black">tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Sarajit, Marriage is a Dharma related activity and to Shani is also a planet who makes a person follow in Dharmic ways.You know that Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a policeman.Nobody or no actions will be performed without his permission.Now Gurucan bless the native for getting married and the marriage will be fixed on such and such date.But as long as Shani does not approve it,the marriage date can be postponed or some other incidents will happen so as to postpone the marriage.As per my knowledge,I have seen a lot charts and they agree on this theory but there may be exceptions which I have to study. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao. Sarajit Poddar font-style:italic"> <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:navy">|| Jaya Jagannath || Dear Ramadas, mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:navy"> mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:navy">You said “Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen” Does this mean that all the actions in this world should be influenced by Saturn or rather agreed by Saturn? We have different karakas for that while literally mean doers or who bring about those actions. Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:12 AM To: vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas "Sanskrit 99";color:black">` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, font-family:"URW Palladio IT";color:black">om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| "Sanskrit 99";color:black">tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. color:black">tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Hari, I have seen the double transits working but if the natal planets are Vakra,then we have to see the transits in a different view.Also your view about Guru transitting UL is also works out.But according to me transit Shani should also aspect UL Lord as Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao. onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Jay and Ramadas, Pranaams to you both. With due respect to your opinions, I must however state that I have not found this double transit to work always. A case in point is my own case where Ju & Sa have already transited through the 7th house of Ta with Mo MD running at that time. Marriage did not happen then nor looks likely to happen in the near future. Based on my discussions with Sarajit, I rewrite the double transit principle as follows:- "The double transit of Ju-Sa affecting 7th house or 7th lord can give marriage but the converse is not true." In the cases I have examined, I found that transit effect of Ju on UL or 2nd from UL is more reliable. This however is only my humble observation. As per COVA (if I understand correctly), transit Sa's influence on 7th house or 7th lord will delay the event of marriage unless it be lagna or 7th lord. regards Hari --- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay > > om namo näräyaëäya > Dear Jay, > You are correct.I have checked by using this double transit method > and is giving good results. > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, > Ramadas Rao. To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your bold">profile. Archives: vedic astrology To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrology To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your bold">profile. color:#003399;font-weight:bold"> Archives: vedic astrology To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Sarajit, Now we know Tula means balance and Shani wants to balance our lives.Now when a person works,he expects the result in form of wealth and Shukra represnts wealth as the deity is Godess Lakshmi.Tula is the Moola Trikona Sthana of Shukra and is the Uccha Sthana of Shani thereby depicting for every Karma we do, it will be payed as per the intensity of karma.Due to this Karma Karakattwa of Shani ,he controls all the karmas which we do everyday.Even the smallest Karma we do is through him only.Unless he sanctions the Karma,nobody will be able to do any Karma and hence no wealth.That is why Isaid Shani controls the world like a policeman.Because of Shani's Uccha position in Tula,all the activities are balanced,otherwise everywhere there will be no rule and everybody tries to act as per his own thinking.If in any place or in anybody's life some evil activities happen, first he will come and see who is wrong and who is right and then the results are given by him.If the country's ruling is not upto the mark,he will take actions so that the ruling will improve and even if the ruling id not ok,then that government will fall and make chance to another government to improve the ruling.This is what is happening in the world.If you closely watch Shani's movement connected to each country's Moon sign or Lagna,you may be able to find out what is happening and what will be result etc. These are my views and still I am doing some studies in this aspect also. Everybody Shani is a malefic planet and his sadesathi gives a lot of troubles etc.Why this is like this ? Actually Shani is not malefic but he is the controlloer and corrector of Karmas in the world and due to one's bad Karmas in his previous life,one suffers which I can say is the punishment given by Shani to correct him/her to improve his/her lifestyle in this life.So if one follows the path of Dharma,truth,helping nature,respecting each other,Shani will respect such natives and he gives mental happiness and wealth so that the native lives happily and help others also.Shani is considered as a Lame and during Shani's sadesathi,if one sends his hard earned money as donation to orphanage,leprosy Ashrams or Old age Ashrams ( Vriddhashramas ),then about 75% of Shani's evil effects will be reduced. I hope this helps you. With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao. Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, Namaste You said “Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a policeman” What is the relationship of Shani getting Uccha in Tula Rasi and his controlling the world like a policeman? Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:33 PM bold">vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Sarajit, Marriage is a Dharma related activity and to Shani is also a planet who makes a person follow in Dharmic ways.You know that Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a policeman.Nobody or no actions will be performed without his permission.Now Gurucan bless the native for getting married and the marriage will be fixed on such and such date.But as long as Shani does not approve it,the marriage date can be postponed or some other incidents will happen so as to postpone the marriage.As per my knowledge,I have seen a lot charts and they agree on this theory but there may be exceptions which I have to study. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, You said “Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen” Does this mean that all the actions in this world should be influenced by Saturn or rather agreed by Saturn? We have different karakas for that while literally mean doers or who bring about those actions. Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:12 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Hari, I have seen the double transits working but if the natal planets are Vakra,then we have to see the transits in a different view.Also your view about Guru transitting UL is also works out.But according to me transit Shani should also aspect UL Lord as Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Jay and Ramadas,Pranaams to you both.With due respect to your opinions, I must however state that I have not found this double transit to work always. A case in point is my own case where Ju & Sa have already transited through the 7th house of Ta with Mo MD running at that time. Marriage did not happen then nor looks likely to happen in the near future.Based on my discussions with Sarajit, I rewrite the double transit principle as follows:-"The double transit of Ju-Sa affecting 7th house or 7th lord can give marriage but the converse is not true."In the cases I have examined, I found that transit effect of Ju on UL or 2nd from UL is more reliable. This however is only my humble observation. As per COVA (if I understand correctly), transit Sa's influence on 7th house or 7th lord will delay the event of marriage unless it be lagna or 7th lord.regardsHari New'">vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay> > om namo näräyaëäya> Dear Jay,> You are correct.I have checked by using this double transit method > and is giving good results.> With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,> Ramadas Rao.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your profile. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted October 5, 2003 Report Share Posted October 5, 2003 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">|| Jaya Jagannath || Dear Ramadas, Namaste 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts on Shani’s exaltation in font-family:Arial;color:navy">Tula color:navy">. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Best Wishes 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Sarajit 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Friday, October 03, 2003 2:07 PM To: vedic astrology RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas "Sanskrit 99";color:black">` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, font-family:"URW Palladio IT";color:black">om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| "Sanskrit 99";color:black">tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. color:black">tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Sarajit, Now we know Tula means balance and Shani wants to balance our lives.Now when a person works,he expects the result in form of wealth and Shukra represnts wealth as the deity is Godess Lakshmi.Tula is the Moola Trikona Sthana of Shukra and is the Uccha Sthana of Shani thereby depicting for every Karma we do, it will be payed as per the intensity of karma.Due to this Karma Karakattwa of Shani ,he controls all the karmas which we do everyday.Even the smallest Karma we do is through him only.Unless he sanctions the Karma,nobody will be able to do any Karma and hence no wealth.That is why Isaid Shani controls the world like a policeman.Because of Shani's Uccha position in Tula,all the activities are balanced,otherwise everywhere there will be no rule and everybody tries to act as per his own thinking.If in any place or in anybody's life some evil activities happen, first he will come and see who is wrong and who is right and then the results are given by him.If the country's ruling is not upto the mark,he will take actions so that the ruling will improve and even if the ruling id not ok,then that government will fall and make chance to another government to improve the ruling.This is what is happening in the world.If you closely watch Shani's movement connected to each country's Moon sign or Lagna,you may be able to find out what is happening and what will be result etc. These are my views and still I am doing some studies in this aspect also. Everybody Shani is a malefic planet and his sadesathi gives a lot of troubles etc.Why this is like this ? Actually Shani is not malefic but he is the controlloer and corrector of Karmas in the world and due to one's bad Karmas in his previous life,one suffers which I can say is the punishment given by Shani to correct him/her to improve his/her lifestyle in this life.So if one follows the path of Dharma,truth,helping nature,respecting each other,Shani will respect such natives and he gives mental happiness and wealth so that the native lives happily and help others also.Shani is considered as a Lame and during Shani's sadesathi,if one sends his hard earned money as donation to orphanage,leprosy Ashrams or Old age Ashrams ( Vriddhashramas ),then about 75% of Shani's evil effects will be reduced. I hope this helps you. With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao. Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: mso-bidi-font-family:Arial">|| Jaya Jagannath || Dear Ramadas, Namaste mso-bidi-font-family:Arial"> mso-bidi-font-family:Arial">You said “ "Palatino Linotype";color:blue">Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a policeman” What is the relationship of Shani getting Uccha in Tula Rasi and his controlling the world like a policeman? Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:33 PM To: vedic astrology RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas "Sanskrit 99";color:black">` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, font-family:"URW Palladio IT";color:black">om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| "Sanskrit 99";color:black">tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. color:black">tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Sarajit, Marriage is a Dharma related activity and to Shani is also a planet who makes a person follow in Dharmic ways.You know that Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a policeman.Nobody or no actions will be performed without his permission.Now Gurucan bless the native for getting married and the marriage will be fixed on such and such date.But as long as Shani does not approve it,the marriage date can be postponed or some other incidents will happen so as to postpone the marriage.As per my knowledge,I have seen a lot charts and they agree on this theory but there may be exceptions which I have to study. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao. Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:navy">|| Jaya Jagannath || Dear Ramadas, mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:navy"> mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:navy">You said “Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen” Does this mean that all the actions in this world should be influenced by Saturn or rather agreed by Saturn? We have different karakas for that while literally mean doers or who bring about those actions. Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:12 AM To: vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas "Sanskrit 99";color:black">` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, font-family:"URW Palladio IT";color:black">om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| "Sanskrit 99";color:black">tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. color:black">tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Hari, I have seen the double transits working but if the natal planets are Vakra,then we have to see the transits in a different view.Also your view about Guru transitting UL is also works out.But according to me transit Shani should also aspect UL Lord as Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao. onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Jay and Ramadas, Pranaams to you both. With due respect to your opinions, I must however state that I have not found this double transit to work always. A case in point is my own case where Ju & Sa have already transited through the 7th house of Ta with Mo MD running at that time. Marriage did not happen then nor looks likely to happen in the near future. Based on my discussions with Sarajit, I rewrite the double transit principle as follows:- "The double transit of Ju-Sa affecting 7th house or 7th lord can give marriage but the converse is not true." In the cases I have examined, I found that transit effect of Ju on UL or 2nd from UL is more reliable. This however is only my humble observation. As per COVA (if I understand correctly), transit Sa's influence on 7th house or 7th lord will delay the event of marriage unless it be lagna or 7th lord. regards Hari vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay > > om namo näräyaëäya > Dear Jay, > You are correct.I have checked by using this double transit method > and is giving good results. > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, > Ramadas Rao. To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your bold">profile. 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Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 om namo näräyaëäya Dear Sarajit, You are most welcome. With Sahstaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, Namaste Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts on Shani’s exaltation in Tula. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Friday, October 03, 2003 2:07 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Sarajit, Now we know Tula means balance and Shani wants to balance our lives.Now when a person works,he expects the result in form of wealth and Shukra represnts wealth as the deity is Godess Lakshmi.Tula is the Moola Trikona Sthana of Shukra and is the Uccha Sthana of Shani thereby depicting for every Karma we do, it will be payed as per the intensity of karma.Due to this Karma Karakattwa of Shani ,he controls all the karmas which we do everyday.Even the smallest Karma we do is through him only.Unless he sanctions the Karma,nobody will be able to do any Karma and hence no wealth.That is why Isaid Shani controls the world like a policeman.Because of Shani's Uccha position in Tula,all the activities are balanced,otherwise everywhere there will be no rule and everybody tries to act as per his own thinking.If in any place or in anybody's life some evil activities happen, first he will come and see who is wrong and who is right and then the results are given by him.If the country's ruling is not upto the mark,he will take actions so that the ruling will improve and even if the ruling id not ok,then that government will fall and make chance to another government to improve the ruling.This is what is happening in the world.If you closely watch Shani's movement connected to each country's Moon sign or Lagna,you may be able to find out what is happening and what will be result etc. These are my views and still I am doing some studies in this aspect also. Everybody Shani is a malefic planet and his sadesathi gives a lot of troubles etc.Why this is like this ? Actually Shani is not malefic but he is the controlloer and corrector of Karmas in the world and due to one's bad Karmas in his previous life,one suffers which I can say is the punishment given by Shani to correct him/her to improve his/her lifestyle in this life.So if one follows the path of Dharma,truth,helping nature,respecting each other,Shani will respect such natives and he gives mental happiness and wealth so that the native lives happily and help others also.Shani is considered as a Lame and during Shani's sadesathi,if one sends his hard earned money as donation to orphanage,leprosy Ashrams or Old age Ashrams ( Vriddhashramas ),then about 75% of Shani's evil effects will be reduced. I hope this helps you. With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao. Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, Namaste You said “Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a policeman” What is the relationship of Shani getting Uccha in Tula Rasi and his controlling the world like a policeman? Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:33 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Sarajit, Marriage is a Dharma related activity and to Shani is also a planet who makes a person follow in Dharmic ways.You know that Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a policeman.Nobody or no actions will be performed without his permission.Now Gurucan bless the native for getting married and the marriage will be fixed on such and such date.But as long as Shani does not approve it,the marriage date can be postponed or some other incidents will happen so as to postpone the marriage.As per my knowledge,I have seen a lot charts and they agree on this theory but there may be exceptions which I have to study. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, You said “Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen” Does this mean that all the actions in this world should be influenced by Saturn or rather agreed by Saturn? We have different karakas for that while literally mean doers or who bring about those actions. Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:12 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Hari, I have seen the double transits working but if the natal planets are Vakra,then we have to see the transits in a different view.Also your view about Guru transitting UL is also works out.But according to me transit Shani should also aspect UL Lord as Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Jay and Ramadas,Pranaams to you both.With due respect to your opinions, I must however state that I have not found this double transit to work always. A case in point is my own case where Ju & Sa have already transited through the 7th house of Ta with Mo MD running at that time. Marriage did not happen then nor looks likely to happen in the near future.Based on my discussions with Sarajit, I rewrite the double transit principle as follows:-"The double transit of Ju-Sa affecting 7th house or 7th lord can give marriage but the converse is not true."In the cases I have examined, I found that transit effect of Ju on UL or 2nd from UL is more reliable. This however is only my humble observation. As per COVA (if I understand correctly), transit Sa's influence on 7th house or 7th lord will delay the event of marriage unless it be lagna or 7th lord.regardsHari New">vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay> > om namo näräyaëäya> Dear Jay,> You are correct.I have checked by using this double transit method > and is giving good results.> With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,> Ramadas Rao.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your profile. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Dear Randasraoji, I remember having read that those with Saturn in Tula (probably in lagna), are those tapaswis who could not get moksha as some deeds were left to be done in the previous birth. They get the Saturn in exaltation in order to finish their Karma and get moksha. Have you read something on similar lines? Regards, Chandrashekhar. Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in]Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:18 PMvedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` nmae naray[ay om namo näräyaëäya Dear Sarajit, You are most welcome. With Sahstaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, Namaste Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts on Shani’s exaltation in Tula. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Friday, October 03, 2003 2:07 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Sarajit, Now we know Tula means balance and Shani wants to balance our lives.Now when a person works,he expects the result in form of wealth and Shukra represnts wealth as the deity is Godess Lakshmi.Tula is the Moola Trikona Sthana of Shukra and is the Uccha Sthana of Shani thereby depicting for every Karma we do, it will be payed as per the intensity of karma.Due to this Karma Karakattwa of Shani ,he controls all the karmas which we do everyday.Even the smallest Karma we do is through him only.Unless he sanctions the Karma,nobody will be able to do any Karma and hence no wealth.That is why Isaid Shani controls the world like a policeman.Because of Shani's Uccha position in Tula,all the activities are balanced,otherwise everywhere there will be no rule and everybody tries to act as per his own thinking.If in any place or in anybody's life some evil activities happen, first he will come and see who is wrong and who is right and then the results are given by him.If the country's ruling is not upto the mark,he will take actions so that the ruling will improve and even if the ruling id not ok,then that government will fall and make chance to another government to improve the ruling.This is what is happening in the world.If you closely watch Shani's movement connected to each country's Moon sign or Lagna,you may be able to find out what is happening and what will be result etc. These are my views and still I am doing some studies in this aspect also. Everybody Shani is a malefic planet and his sadesathi gives a lot of troubles etc.Why this is like this ? Actually Shani is not malefic but he is the controlloer and corrector of Karmas in the world and due to one's bad Karmas in his previous life,one suffers which I can say is the punishment given by Shani to correct him/her to improve his/her lifestyle in this life.So if one follows the path of Dharma,truth,helping nature,respecting each other,Shani will respect such natives and he gives mental happiness and wealth so that the native lives happily and help others also.Shani is considered as a Lame and during Shani's sadesathi,if one sends his hard earned money as donation to orphanage,leprosy Ashrams or Old age Ashrams ( Vriddhashramas ),then about 75% of Shani's evil effects will be reduced. I hope this helps you. With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao. Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, Namaste You said “Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a policeman” What is the relationship of Shani getting Uccha in Tula Rasi and his controlling the world like a policeman? Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:33 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Sarajit, Marriage is a Dharma related activity and to Shani is also a planet who makes a person follow in Dharmic ways.You know that Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a policeman.Nobody or no actions will be performed without his permission.Now Gurucan bless the native for getting married and the marriage will be fixed on such and such date.But as long as Shani does not approve it,the marriage date can be postponed or some other incidents will happen so as to postpone the marriage.As per my knowledge,I have seen a lot charts and they agree on this theory but there may be exceptions which I have to study. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, You said “Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen” Does this mean that all the actions in this world should be influenced by Saturn or rather agreed by Saturn? We have different karakas for that while literally mean doers or who bring about those actions. Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:12 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Hari, I have seen the double transits working but if the natal planets are Vakra,then we have to see the transits in a different view.Also your view about Guru transitting UL is also works out.But according to me transit Shani should also aspect UL Lord as Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Jay and Ramadas,Pranaams to you both.With due respect to your opinions, I must however state that I have not found this double transit to work always. A case in point is my own case where Ju & Sa have already transited through the 7th house of Ta with Mo MD running at that time. Marriage did not happen then nor looks likely to happen in the near future.Based on my discussions with Sarajit, I rewrite the double transit principle as follows:-"The double transit of Ju-Sa affecting 7th house or 7th lord can give marriage but the converse is not true."In the cases I have examined, I found that transit effect of Ju on UL or 2nd from UL is more reliable. This however is only my humble observation. As per COVA (if I understand correctly), transit Sa's influence on 7th house or 7th lord will delay the event of marriage unless it be lagna or 7th lord.regardsHari--- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay> > om namo näräyaëäya> Dear Jay,> You are correct.I have checked by using this double transit method > and is giving good results.> With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,> Ramadas Rao.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your profile. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Hi All, The houses 2, 7, 11 need to be looked into for timing marriage. Dasa-bhukti-Antharam of Planets/lords in 2, 7, 11 help in timing of the event. The planets in these houses hold a greater signification as to the lord of these houses in ascertaining marriage. Occurence of marriage during the tenure of Sadesathi is considered auspicious and augurs a happy married life. Subjects in the star of Saturn are generally prone to late marriage. This is how I was taught by my guru. Learned members, clarify regards, N. Anand Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk]Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:25 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas Dear Randasraoji, I remember having read that those with Saturn in Tula (probably in lagna), are those tapaswis who could not get moksha as some deeds were left to be done in the previous birth. They get the Saturn in exaltation in order to finish their Karma and get moksha. Have you read something on similar lines? Regards, Chandrashekhar. Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in]Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:18 PMvedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` nmae naray[ay om namo näräyaëäya Dear Sarajit, You are most welcome. With Sahstaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, Namaste Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts on Shani's exaltation in Tula. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Friday, October 03, 2003 2:07 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak...mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Sarajit, Now we know Tula means balance and Shani wants to balance our lives.Now when a person works,he expects the result in form of wealth and Shukra represnts wealth as the deity is Godess Lakshmi.Tula is the Moola Trikona Sthana of Shukra and is the Uccha Sthana of Shani thereby depicting for every Karma we do, it will be payed as per the intensity of karma.Due to this Karma Karakattwa of Shani ,he controls all the karmas which we do everyday.Even the smallest Karma we do is through him only.Unless he sanctions the Karma,nobody will be able to do any Karma and hence no wealth.That is why Isaid Shani controls the world like a policeman.Because of Shani's Uccha position in Tula,all the activities are balanced,otherwise everywhere there will be no rule and everybody tries to act as per his own thinking.If in any place or in anybody's life some evil activities happen, first he will come and see who is wrong and who is right and then the results are given by him.If the country's ruling is not upto the mark,he will take actions so that the ruling will improve and even if the ruling id not ok,then that government will fall and make chance to another government to improve the ruling.This is what is happening in the world.If you closely watch Shani's movement connected to each country's Moon sign or Lagna,you may be able to find out what is happening and what will be result etc. These are my views and still I am doing some studies in this aspect also. Everybody Shani is a malefic planet and his sadesathi gives a lot of troubles etc.Why this is like this ? Actually Shani is not malefic but he is the controlloer and corrector of Karmas in the world and due to one's bad Karmas in his previous life,one suffers which I can say is the punishment given by Shani to correct him/her to improve his/her lifestyle in this life.So if one follows the path of Dharma,truth,helping nature,respecting each other,Shani will respect such natives and he gives mental happiness and wealth so that the native lives happily and help others also.Shani is considered as a Lame and during Shani's sadesathi,if one sends his hard earned money as donation to orphanage,leprosy Ashrams or Old age Ashrams ( Vriddhashramas ),then about 75% of Shani's evil effects will be reduced. I hope this helps you. With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao. Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, Namaste You said "Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a policeman" What is the relationship of Shani getting Uccha in Tula Rasi and his controlling the world like a policeman? Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:33 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak...mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Sarajit, Marriage is a Dharma related activity and to Shani is also a planet who makes a person follow in Dharmic ways.You know that Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a policeman.Nobody or no actions will be performed without his permission.Now Gurucan bless the native for getting married and the marriage will be fixed on such and such date.But as long as Shani does not approve it,the marriage date can be postponed or some other incidents will happen so as to postpone the marriage.As per my knowledge,I have seen a lot charts and they agree on this theory but there may be exceptions which I have to study. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, You said "Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen" Does this mean that all the actions in this world should be influenced by Saturn or rather agreed by Saturn? We have different karakas for that while literally mean doers or who bring about those actions. Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:12 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak...mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Hari, I have seen the double transits working but if the natal planets are Vakra,then we have to see the transits in a different view.Also your view about Guru transitting UL is also works out.But according to me transit Shani should also aspect UL Lord as Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Jay and Ramadas,Pranaams to you both.With due respect to your opinions, I must however state that I have not found this double transit to work always. A case in point is my own case where Ju & Sa have already transited through the 7th house of Ta with Mo MD running at that time. Marriage did not happen then nor looks likely to happen in the near future.Based on my discussions with Sarajit, I rewrite the double transit principle as follows:-"The double transit of Ju-Sa affecting 7th house or 7th lord can give marriage but the converse is not true."In the cases I have examined, I found that transit effect of Ju on UL or 2nd from UL is more reliable. This however is only my humble observation. As per COVA (if I understand correctly), transit Sa's influence on 7th house or 7th lord will delay the event of marriage unless it be lagna or 7th lord.regardsHari--- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay> > om namo näräyaëäya> Dear Jay,> You are correct.I have checked by using this double transit method > and is giving good results.> With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,> Ramadas Rao.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your profile. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 om namo näräyaëäya Dear Chandrashekharji, Yes, you are correct but in their charts,Ketu should be in 12th from Karakamsha Lagna or AK.Then only all their Karmas will end will attain Salvation or Moksha.Somewhere I read even Guru in 12th either in Swakshetra or Moola trikona or exalted to AK also gives Moksha and this has to be confirmed. I hope this helps you. With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Randasraoji, I remember having read that those with Saturn in Tula (probably in lagna), are those tapaswis who could not get moksha as some deeds were left to be done in the previous birth. They get the Saturn in exaltation in order to finish their Karma and get moksha. Have you read something on similar lines? Regards, Chandrashekhar. Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in]Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:18 PMvedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` nmae naray[ay om namo näräyaëäya Dear Sarajit, You are most welcome. With Sahstaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, Namaste Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts on Shani’s exaltation in Tula. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Friday, October 03, 2003 2:07 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Sarajit, Now we know Tula means balance and Shani wants to balance our lives.Now when a person works,he expects the result in form of wealth and Shukra represnts wealth as the deity is Godess Lakshmi.Tula is the Moola Trikona Sthana of Shukra and is the Uccha Sthana of Shani thereby depicting for every Karma we do, it will be payed as per the intensity of karma.Due to this Karma Karakattwa of Shani ,he controls all the karmas which we do everyday.Even the smallest Karma we do is through him only.Unless he sanctions the Karma,nobody will be able to do any Karma and hence no wealth.That is why Isaid Shani controls the world like a policeman.Because of Shani's Uccha position in Tula,all the activities are balanced,otherwise everywhere there will be no rule and everybody tries to act as per his own thinking.If in any place or in anybody's life some evil activities happen, first he will come and see who is wrong and who is right and then the results are given by him.If the country's ruling is not upto the mark,he will take actions so that the ruling will improve and even if the ruling id not ok,then that government will fall and make chance to another government to improve the ruling.This is what is happening in the world.If you closely watch Shani's movement connected to each country's Moon sign or Lagna,you may be able to find out what is happening and what will be result etc. These are my views and still I am doing some studies in this aspect also. Everybody Shani is a malefic planet and his sadesathi gives a lot of troubles etc.Why this is like this ? Actually Shani is not malefic but he is the controlloer and corrector of Karmas in the world and due to one's bad Karmas in his previous life,one suffers which I can say is the punishment given by Shani to correct him/her to improve his/her lifestyle in this life.So if one follows the path of Dharma,truth,helping nature,respecting each other,Shani will respect such natives and he gives mental happiness and wealth so that the native lives happily and help others also.Shani is considered as a Lame and during Shani's sadesathi,if one sends his hard earned money as donation to orphanage,leprosy Ashrams or Old age Ashrams ( Vriddhashramas ),then about 75% of Shani's evil effects will be reduced. I hope this helps you. With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao. Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, Namaste You said “Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a policeman” What is the relationship of Shani getting Uccha in Tula Rasi and his controlling the world like a policeman? Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:33 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Sarajit, Marriage is a Dharma related activity and to Shani is also a planet who makes a person follow in Dharmic ways.You know that Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a policeman.Nobody or no actions will be performed without his permission.Now Gurucan bless the native for getting married and the marriage will be fixed on such and such date.But as long as Shani does not approve it,the marriage date can be postponed or some other incidents will happen so as to postpone the marriage.As per my knowledge,I have seen a lot charts and they agree on this theory but there may be exceptions which I have to study. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, You said “Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen” Does this mean that all the actions in this world should be influenced by Saturn or rather agreed by Saturn? We have different karakas for that while literally mean doers or who bring about those actions. Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:12 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Hari, I have seen the double transits working but if the natal planets are Vakra,then we have to see the transits in a different view.Also your view about Guru transitting UL is also works out.But according to me transit Shani should also aspect UL Lord as Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Jay and Ramadas,Pranaams to you both.With due respect to your opinions, I must however state that I have not found this double transit to work always. A case in point is my own case where Ju & Sa have already transited through the 7th house of Ta with Mo MD running at that time. Marriage did not happen then nor looks likely to happen in the near future.Based on my discussions with Sarajit, I rewrite the double transit principle as follows:-"The double transit of Ju-Sa affecting 7th house or 7th lord can give marriage but the converse is not true."In the cases I have examined, I found that transit effect of Ju on UL or 2nd from UL is more reliable. This however is only my humble observation. As per COVA (if I understand correctly), transit Sa's influence on 7th house or 7th lord will delay the event of marriage unless it be lagna or 7th lord.regardsHarivedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay> > om namo näräyaëäya> Dear Jay,> You are correct.I have checked by using this double transit method > and is giving good results.> With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,> Ramadas Rao.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your profile. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your partner online. 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Guest guest Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 Dear Ramdasji, I remember that Guru if in Karakamsha which is pisces, leads one to moksha.I think merely Ketu being in 12th does not,by itself, give moksha but indicates capacity to attain moksha if the Jataka does his Karma accoring to Dharma.Though this is my personal opinion. Your valuable comments are always useful. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in]Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 11:47 PMvedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` nmae naray[ay om namo näräyaëäya Dear Chandrashekharji, Yes, you are correct but in their charts,Ketu should be in 12th from Karakamsha Lagna or AK.Then only all their Karmas will end will attain Salvation or Moksha.Somewhere I read even Guru in 12th either in Swakshetra or Moola trikona or exalted to AK also gives Moksha and this has to be confirmed. I hope this helps you. With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Randasraoji, I remember having read that those with Saturn in Tula (probably in lagna), are those tapaswis who could not get moksha as some deeds were left to be done in the previous birth. They get the Saturn in exaltation in order to finish their Karma and get moksha. Have you read something on similar lines? Regards, Chandrashekhar. Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in]Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:18 PMvedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` nmae naray[ay om namo näräyaëäya Dear Sarajit, You are most welcome. With Sahstaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, Namaste Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts on Shani’s exaltation in Tula. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Friday, October 03, 2003 2:07 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Sarajit, Now we know Tula means balance and Shani wants to balance our lives.Now when a person works,he expects the result in form of wealth and Shukra represnts wealth as the deity is Godess Lakshmi.Tula is the Moola Trikona Sthana of Shukra and is the Uccha Sthana of Shani thereby depicting for every Karma we do, it will be payed as per the intensity of karma.Due to this Karma Karakattwa of Shani ,he controls all the karmas which we do everyday.Even the smallest Karma we do is through him only.Unless he sanctions the Karma,nobody will be able to do any Karma and hence no wealth.That is why Isaid Shani controls the world like a policeman.Because of Shani's Uccha position in Tula,all the activities are balanced,otherwise everywhere there will be no rule and everybody tries to act as per his own thinking.If in any place or in anybody's life some evil activities happen, first he will come and see who is wrong and who is right and then the results are given by him.If the country's ruling is not upto the mark,he will take actions so that the ruling will improve and even if the ruling id not ok,then that government will fall and make chance to another government to improve the ruling.This is what is happening in the world.If you closely watch Shani's movement connected to each country's Moon sign or Lagna,you may be able to find out what is happening and what will be result etc. These are my views and still I am doing some studies in this aspect also. Everybody Shani is a malefic planet and his sadesathi gives a lot of troubles etc.Why this is like this ? Actually Shani is not malefic but he is the controlloer and corrector of Karmas in the world and due to one's bad Karmas in his previous life,one suffers which I can say is the punishment given by Shani to correct him/her to improve his/her lifestyle in this life.So if one follows the path of Dharma,truth,helping nature,respecting each other,Shani will respect such natives and he gives mental happiness and wealth so that the native lives happily and help others also.Shani is considered as a Lame and during Shani's sadesathi,if one sends his hard earned money as donation to orphanage,leprosy Ashrams or Old age Ashrams ( Vriddhashramas ),then about 75% of Shani's evil effects will be reduced. I hope this helps you. With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao. Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, Namaste You said “Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a policeman” What is the relationship of Shani getting Uccha in Tula Rasi and his controlling the world like a policeman? Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:33 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Sarajit, Marriage is a Dharma related activity and to Shani is also a planet who makes a person follow in Dharmic ways.You know that Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a policeman.Nobody or no actions will be performed without his permission.Now Gurucan bless the native for getting married and the marriage will be fixed on such and such date.But as long as Shani does not approve it,the marriage date can be postponed or some other incidents will happen so as to postpone the marriage.As per my knowledge,I have seen a lot charts and they agree on this theory but there may be exceptions which I have to study. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas, You said “Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen” Does this mean that all the actions in this world should be influenced by Saturn or rather agreed by Saturn? We have different karakas for that while literally mean doers or who bring about those actions. Please share your views on this. Best Wishes Sarajit Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:12 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. tanno durgiù pracodayät|| Dear Hari, I have seen the double transits working but if the natal planets are Vakra,then we have to see the transits in a different view.Also your view about Guru transitting UL is also works out.But according to me transit Shani should also aspect UL Lord as Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the event will not happen. I hope this helps you, With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Jay and Ramadas,Pranaams to you both.With due respect to your opinions, I must however state that I have not found this double transit to work always. A case in point is my own case where Ju & Sa have already transited through the 7th house of Ta with Mo MD running at that time. Marriage did not happen then nor looks likely to happen in the near future.Based on my discussions with Sarajit, I rewrite the double transit principle as follows:-"The double transit of Ju-Sa affecting 7th house or 7th lord can give marriage but the converse is not true."In the cases I have examined, I found that transit effect of Ju on UL or 2nd from UL is more reliable. This however is only my humble observation. As per COVA (if I understand correctly), transit Sa's influence on 7th house or 7th lord will delay the event of marriage unless it be lagna or 7th lord.regardsHari--- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay> > om namo näräyaëäya> Dear Jay,> You are correct.I have checked by using this double transit method > and is giving good results.> With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,> Ramadas Rao.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your profile. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 om namo näräyaëäya Dear Hari, Now regarding this double transit procedures for Vakra Planets,suppose if either Guru or Shani ® are in 7th ,then but not either of them are 7th lords,then during transit either one of them should aspect or transit on 7th house and the other should aspect 7th lord or transit 7th lord and aspect or transit Lagna lord also. Now when one of them becomes 7th lord say Shani is 7th lord but is Vakra,so during transit either Guru or Shani should aspect or transit over the natal position of Shani and not the previous house aspect. Now for example in your chart as I explained previously,Guru eneters Kanya Rasi on August 28th,2004 and will transit on your natal 7th lord Shukra,10th lord Surya and 11th lord Budha and aspects your Lagna lord Kuja and also 7th house where Shani ® is placed and so the obstacle to your marriage is nullified.Now here I want to tell you that the transit of Guru on your 10th lord Surya gives a domestic happiness from marriage as 10th house is 4th from 7th.The transit of Guru on 11th lord Budha gives you tremendous gains after the marriage.( Indicating your wife will be Lakshmi to you and in your career you will be promoted to a very high position and your emoluments will increase to a greater extent.) Shani will transit to Karka Rasi on 5th Sept.2004 and it is your 9th house from Lagna indicating a change of fortune.As ketu is there in your natal chart,there may be some hindrances for your marriage but as i told you that you will be performing the remedies and everything goes smooth. I hope this helps you. With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, Ramadas Rao.onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Shri Ramadas,Thank you for educating me in this double transit matter. Now you said "...if the natal planets are Vakra,then we have to see the transits in a different view...."May I know how you interpret the double transit if either Ju or Sa or both are retrograde in the natal chart?regardsHariArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 Hare Krishna Dear Ramadasji and Chandrasekhar, In every chart there is a Ketu...but also there is Rahu. It isnt enough to have ketu in 12th ,or Jup etc etc, There are only a few ways to get liberated, one is the causeless mercy of the Spiritual Master, and or if you are fortunate enough to be glanced upon by the Supreme Lord himself, or even lucky enough to be killed by him. Before any one considers themselves "liberated" or others, they should look at the whole chart.Not just a few placements, think how amny people have Ketu in 12th, or Jupiter ex in lagna, this and that. Look at some supposed liberation candidates,,do they have planets in dustanas..where is that LL? in the 11th??3rd,?? Unless someone is full time absorbed 24 hours a day in a practical samadhi state of devotional service, OR happens to get the causeless mercy of a spiritual master, who he himself IS capable of giving liberation,....then, well maybe they just get "promoted" to higher planetary systems...going to heavenly planets.. and that isnt being liberated from the cycle of birth and death, its just another side trip. Anyway you know what I mean,,,find a chart where you think the person , got or will get liberated, and look at all angles, see his state of mind at end of his life.. check out those shad-ripus places and rahu influnces... check out that AK. Look around, does it look like that person is ready? With best wishes Lakshmi Kary -- In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Ramdasji, > I remember that Guru if in Karakamsha which is pisces, leads one to moksha.I > think merely Ketu being in 12th does not,by itself, give moksha but > indicates capacity to attain moksha if the Jataka does his Karma accoring to > Dharma.Though this is my personal opinion. Your valuable comments are always > useful. > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > > Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] > Wednesday, October 08, 2003 11:47 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas > > > ` nmae naray[ay > > om namo näräyaëäya > > Dear Chandrashekharji, > Yes, you are correct but in their charts,Ketu should be in 12th from > Karakamsha Lagna or AK.Then only all their Karmas will end will attain > Salvation or Moksha.Somewhere I read even Guru in 12th either in Swakshetra > or Moola trikona or exalted to AK also gives Moksha and this has to be > confirmed. > I hope this helps you. > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, > Ramadas Rao. > > Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Randasraoji, > I remember having read that those with Saturn in Tula (probably in > lagna), are those tapaswis who could not get moksha as some deeds were left > to be done in the previous birth. They get the Saturn in exaltation in order > to finish their Karma and get moksha. Have you read something on similar > lines? > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > > Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] > Monday, October 06, 2003 12:18 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas > > > ` nmae naray[ay > > om namo näräyaëäya > > Dear Sarajit, > You are most welcome. > With Sahstaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, > Ramadas Rao. > > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit@s...> wrote: > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Ramadas, Namaste > > > > Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts on Shani's exaltation in > Tula. > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > > > > Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] > Friday, October 03, 2003 2:07 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas > > > > ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, > > om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| > > tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. > > tanno durgiù pracodayät|| > > Dear Sarajit, > > Now we know Tula means balance and Shani wants to balance our > lives.Now when a person works,he expects the result in form of wealth and > Shukra represnts wealth as the deity is Godess Lakshmi.Tula is the Moola > Trikona Sthana of Shukra and is the Uccha Sthana of Shani thereby depicting > for every Karma we do, it will be payed as per the intensity of karma.Due to > this Karma Karakattwa of Shani ,he controls all the karmas which we do > everyday.Even the smallest Karma we do is through him only.Unless he > sanctions the Karma,nobody will be able to do any Karma and hence no > wealth.That is why Isaid Shani controls the world like a policeman.Because > of Shani's Uccha position in Tula,all the activities are balanced,otherwise > everywhere there will be no rule and everybody tries to act as per his own > thinking.If in any place or in anybody's life some evil activities happen, > first he will come and see who is wrong and who is right and then the > results are given by him.If the country's ruling is not upto the mark,he > will take actions so that the ruling will improve and even if the ruling id > not ok,then that government will fall and make chance to another government > to improve the ruling.This is what is happening in the world.If you closely > watch Shani's movement connected to each country's Moon sign or Lagna,you > may be able to find out what is happening and what will be result etc. > > These are my views and still I am doing some studies in this aspect > also. > > Everybody Shani is a malefic planet and his sadesathi gives a lot of > troubles etc.Why this is like this ? Actually Shani is not malefic but he is > the controlloer and corrector of Karmas in the world and due to one's bad > Karmas in his previous life,one suffers which I can say is the punishment > given by Shani to correct him/her to improve his/her lifestyle in this > life.So if one follows the path of Dharma,truth,helping nature,respecting > each other,Shani will respect such natives and he gives mental happiness and > wealth so that the native lives happily and help others also.Shani is > considered as a Lame and during Shani's sadesathi,if one sends his hard > earned money as donation to orphanage,leprosy Ashrams or Old age Ashrams ( > Vriddhashramas ),then about 75% of Shani's evil effects will be reduced. > > I hope this helps you. > > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit@s...> wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Ramadas, Namaste > > > > You said "Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants > control the whole world like a policeman" > > > > What is the relationship of Shani getting Uccha in Tula Rasi and his > controlling the world like a policeman? Please share your views on this. > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > > > > > > Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] > Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:33 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas > > > > ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, > > om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| > > tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. > > tanno durgiù pracodayät|| > > Dear Sarajit, > > Marriage is a Dharma related activity and to Shani is also a planet > who makes a person follow in Dharmic ways.You know that Shani is Uccha in > Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a > policeman.Nobody or no actions will be performed without his permission.Now > Gurucan bless the native for getting married and the marriage will be fixed > on such and such date.But as long as Shani does not approve it,the marriage > date can be postponed or some other incidents will happen so as to postpone > the marriage.As per my knowledge,I have seen a lot charts and they agree on > this theory but there may be exceptions which I have to study. > > I hope this helps you, > > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, > > Ramadas Rao. > > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit@s...> wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Ramadas, > > > > You said "Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the > event will not happen" > > > > Does this mean that all the actions in this world should be > influenced by Saturn or rather agreed by Saturn? We have different karakas > for that while literally mean doers or who bring about those actions. Please > share your views on this. > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > > > > > > Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] > Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:12 AM > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and > Ramadas > > > > ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, > > om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| > > tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. > > tanno durgiù pracodayät|| > > Dear Hari, > > I have seen the double transits working but if the natal planets > are Vakra,then we have to see the transits in a different view.Also your > view about Guru transitting UL is also works out.But according to me transit > Shani should also aspect UL Lord as Shani is Karma Karaka and without his > sanctions the event will not happen. > > I hope this helps you, > > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, > > Ramadas Rao. > > onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote: > > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Dear Jay and Ramadas, > > Pranaams to you both. > > With due respect to your opinions, I must however state that I > have > not found this double transit to work always. A case in point is > my > own case where Ju & Sa have already transited through the 7th > house > of Ta with Mo MD running at that time. Marriage did not happen > then > nor looks likely to happen in the near future. > > Based on my discussions with Sarajit, I rewrite the double > transit > principle as follows:- > > "The double transit of Ju-Sa affecting 7th house or 7th lord can > give marriage but the converse is not true." > > In the cases I have examined, I found that transit effect of Ju > on > UL or 2nd from UL is more reliable. This however is only my > humble > observation. As per COVA (if I understand correctly), transit > Sa's > influence on 7th house or 7th lord will delay the event of > marriage > unless it be lagna or 7th lord. > > regards > Hari > > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao > <ramadasrao> wrote: > > > > ` nmae naray[ay > > > > om namo näräyaëäya > > Dear Jay, > > You are correct.I have checked by using this double transit > method > > and is giving good results. > > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Terms of > Service. > > India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your > profile. > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Shri Ramadas, Many thanks for explaining the double transit technique when the planets are vakra or retrograde. Now you have explained with respect to 7th house or 7th lord only but as per your explanation, my understanding is that the natal position of retrograde planet is more important and there should be some aspect to or transit over this natal position. Special thanks also for continuing further with reference to my chart. Of course, if the transits be favorable, then the operating dasha should also be favorable for the event to happen. regards Hari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 Dear Laxmi, You are, in essence , saying the same thing that I wanted to say.Even Mercy of spiritual master or death by the hands of the Lord is indicated in a horoscope, should one be able to understand it, is the only thing I have to add. Regards, Chandrashekhar. lakshmisyama [lakshmikary (AT) netzero (DOT) net]Friday, October 10, 2003 3:15 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and RamadasHare KrishnaDear Ramadasji and Chandrasekhar,In every chart there is a Ketu...but also there is Rahu.It isnt enough to have ketu in 12th ,or Jup etc etc,There are only a few ways to get liberated, one is the causeless mercy of the Spiritual Master, and or if you are fortunate enough to be glanced upon by the Supreme Lord himself, or even lucky enough to be killed by him.Before any one considers themselves "liberated" or others, they should look at the whole chart.Not just a few placements,think how amny people have Ketu in 12th, or Jupiter ex in lagna, this and that.Look at some supposed liberation candidates,,do they have planets in dustanas..where is that LL? in the 11th??3rd,??Unless someone is full time absorbed 24 hours a day in a practical samadhi state of devotional service, OR happens to get the causeless mercy of a spiritual master, who he himself IS capable of giving liberation,....then, well maybe they just get "promoted" to higher planetary systems...going to heavenly planets..and that isnt being liberated from the cycle of birth and death, its just another side trip.Anyway you know what I mean,,,find a chart where you think the person , got or will get liberated, and look at all angles, see his state of mind at end of his life..check out those shad-ripus places and rahu influnces...check out that AK. Look around, does it look like that person is ready?With best wishesLakshmi Kary-- In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Ramdasji,> I remember that Guru if in Karakamsha which is pisces, leads one to moksha.I> think merely Ketu being in 12th does not,by itself, give moksha but> indicates capacity to attain moksha if the Jataka does his Karma accoring to> Dharma.Though this is my personal opinion. Your valuable comments are always> useful.> Regards,> Chandrashekhar.> > Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao]> Wednesday, October 08, 2003 11:47 PM> To: vedic astrology> RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas> > > ` nmae naray[ay> > om namo näräyaëäya> > Dear Chandrashekharji,> Yes, you are correct but in their charts,Ketu should be in 12th from> Karakamsha Lagna or AK.Then only all their Karmas will end will attain> Salvation or Moksha.Somewhere I read even Guru in 12th either in Swakshetra> or Moola trikona or exalted to AK also gives Moksha and this has to be> confirmed.> I hope this helps you.> With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,> Ramadas Rao.> > Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Randasraoji,> I remember having read that those with Saturn in Tula (probably in> lagna), are those tapaswis who could not get moksha as some deeds were left> to be done in the previous birth. They get the Saturn in exaltation in order> to finish their Karma and get moksha. Have you read something on similar> lines?> Regards,> Chandrashekhar.> > Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao]> Monday, October 06, 2003 12:18 PM> To: vedic astrology> RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas> > > ` nmae naray[ay> > om namo näräyaëäya> > Dear Sarajit,> You are most welcome.> With Sahstaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,> Ramadas Rao.> > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit@s...> wrote:> || Jaya Jagannath ||> Dear Ramadas, Namaste> > > > Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts on Shani's exaltation in> Tula.> > > > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > > > > Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao]> Friday, October 03, 2003 2:07 PM> vedic astrology> RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas> > > > ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih,> > om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi|> > tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!.> > tanno durgiù pracodayät||> > Dear Sarajit,> > Now we know Tula means balance and Shani wants to balance our> lives.Now when a person works,he expects the result in form of wealth and> Shukra represnts wealth as the deity is Godess Lakshmi.Tula is the Moola> Trikona Sthana of Shukra and is the Uccha Sthana of Shani thereby depicting> for every Karma we do, it will be payed as per the intensity of karma.Due to> this Karma Karakattwa of Shani ,he controls all the karmas which we do> everyday.Even the smallest Karma we do is through him only.Unless he> sanctions the Karma,nobody will be able to do any Karma and hence no> wealth.That is why Isaid Shani controls the world like a policeman.Because> of Shani's Uccha position in Tula,all the activities are balanced,otherwise> everywhere there will be no rule and everybody tries to act as per his own> thinking.If in any place or in anybody's life some evil activities happen,> first he will come and see who is wrong and who is right and then the> results are given by him.If the country's ruling is not upto the mark,he> will take actions so that the ruling will improve and even if the ruling id> not ok,then that government will fall and make chance to another government> to improve the ruling.This is what is happening in the world.If you closely> watch Shani's movement connected to each country's Moon sign or Lagna,you> may be able to find out what is happening and what will be result etc.> > These are my views and still I am doing some studies in this aspect> also.> > Everybody Shani is a malefic planet and his sadesathi gives a lot of> troubles etc.Why this is like this ? Actually Shani is not malefic but he is> the controlloer and corrector of Karmas in the world and due to one's bad> Karmas in his previous life,one suffers which I can say is the punishment> given by Shani to correct him/her to improve his/her lifestyle in this> life.So if one follows the path of Dharma,truth,helping nature,respecting> each other,Shani will respect such natives and he gives mental happiness and> wealth so that the native lives happily and help others also.Shani is> considered as a Lame and during Shani's sadesathi,if one sends his hard> earned money as donation to orphanage,leprosy Ashrams or Old age Ashrams (> Vriddhashramas ),then about 75% of Shani's evil effects will be reduced.> > I hope this helps you.> > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit@s...> wrote:> > || Jaya Jagannath ||> Dear Ramadas, Namaste> > > > You said "Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants> control the whole world like a policeman"> > > > What is the relationship of Shani getting Uccha in Tula Rasi and his> controlling the world like a policeman? Please share your views on this.> > > > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > > > > > -----Original Message-----> Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao]> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:33 PM> To: vedic astrology> RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas> > > > ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih,> > om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi|> > tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!.> > tanno durgiù pracodayät||> > Dear Sarajit,> > Marriage is a Dharma related activity and to Shani is also a planet> who makes a person follow in Dharmic ways.You know that Shani is Uccha in> Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a> policeman.Nobody or no actions will be performed without his permission.Now> Gurucan bless the native for getting married and the marriage will be fixed> on such and such date.But as long as Shani does not approve it,the marriage> date can be postponed or some other incidents will happen so as to postpone> the marriage.As per my knowledge,I have seen a lot charts and they agree on> this theory but there may be exceptions which I have to study.> > I hope this helps you,> > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,> > Ramadas Rao.> > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit@s...> wrote:> > || Jaya Jagannath ||> Dear Ramadas,> > > > You said "Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the> event will not happen"> > > > Does this mean that all the actions in this world should be> influenced by Saturn or rather agreed by Saturn? We have different karakas> for that while literally mean doers or who bring about those actions. Please> share your views on this.> > > > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > > > > > > Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao]> Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:12 AM> vedic astrology> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and> Ramadas> > > > ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih,> > om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi|> > tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!.> > tanno durgiù pracodayät||> > Dear Hari,> > I have seen the double transits working but if the natal planets> are Vakra,then we have to see the transits in a different view.Also your> view about Guru transitting UL is also works out.But according to me transit> Shani should also aspect UL Lord as Shani is Karma Karaka and without his> sanctions the event will not happen.> > I hope this helps you,> > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,> > Ramadas Rao.> > onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote:> > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||> > Dear Jay and Ramadas,> > Pranaams to you both.> > With due respect to your opinions, I must however state that I> have> not found this double transit to work always. A case in point is> my> own case where Ju & Sa have already transited through the 7th> house> of Ta with Mo MD running at that time. Marriage did not happen> then> nor looks likely to happen in the near future.> > Based on my discussions with Sarajit, I rewrite the double> transit> principle as follows:-> > "The double transit of Ju-Sa affecting 7th house or 7th lord can> give marriage but the converse is not true."> > In the cases I have examined, I found that transit effect of Ju> on> UL or 2nd from UL is more reliable. This however is only my> humble> observation. As per COVA (if I understand correctly), transit> Sa's> influence on 7th house or 7th lord will delay the event of> marriage> unless it be lagna or 7th lord.> > regards> Hari> > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao> <ramadasrao> wrote:> >> > ` nmae naray[ay> >> > om namo näräyaëäya> > Dear Jay,> > You are correct.I have checked by using this double transit> method> > and is giving good results.> > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info:> vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms of> Service.> > India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your> profile.> > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 OM SARVAMOHINYAI VIDMAHE VISHWAJANAYAI DHEEMAHI TANNAH SHAKTI PRACHODAYAAT. Dear Chandrashekharji, I also agree with your point.Because I dont know who had got Moksha and if we get a chart who got Moksha ,then we can study such charts. With Sri Bhuvaneshwari Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Ramdasji, > I remember that Guru if in Karakamsha which is pisces, leads one to moksha.I > think merely Ketu being in 12th does not,by itself, give moksha but > indicates capacity to attain moksha if the Jataka does his Karma accoring to > Dharma.Though this is my personal opinion. Your valuable comments are always > useful. > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > > Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] > Wednesday, October 08, 2003 11:47 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas > > > ` nmae naray[ay > > om namo näräyaëäya > > Dear Chandrashekharji, > Yes, you are correct but in their charts,Ketu should be in 12th from > Karakamsha Lagna or AK.Then only all their Karmas will end will attain > Salvation or Moksha.Somewhere I read even Guru in 12th either in Swakshetra > or Moola trikona or exalted to AK also gives Moksha and this has to be > confirmed. > I hope this helps you. > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, > Ramadas Rao. > > Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Randasraoji, > I remember having read that those with Saturn in Tula (probably in > lagna), are those tapaswis who could not get moksha as some deeds were left > to be done in the previous birth. They get the Saturn in exaltation in order > to finish their Karma and get moksha. Have you read something on similar > lines? > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > > Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] > Monday, October 06, 2003 12:18 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas > > > ` nmae naray[ay > > om namo näräyaëäya > > Dear Sarajit, > You are most welcome. > With Sahstaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, > Ramadas Rao. > > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit@s...> wrote: > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Ramadas, Namaste > > > > Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts on Shani's exaltation in > Tula. > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > > > > Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] > Friday, October 03, 2003 2:07 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas > > > > ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, > > om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| > > tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. > > tanno durgiù pracodayät|| > > Dear Sarajit, > > Now we know Tula means balance and Shani wants to balance our > lives.Now when a person works,he expects the result in form of wealth and > Shukra represnts wealth as the deity is Godess Lakshmi.Tula is the Moola > Trikona Sthana of Shukra and is the Uccha Sthana of Shani thereby depicting > for every Karma we do, it will be payed as per the intensity of karma.Due to > this Karma Karakattwa of Shani ,he controls all the karmas which we do > everyday.Even the smallest Karma we do is through him only.Unless he > sanctions the Karma,nobody will be able to do any Karma and hence no > wealth.That is why Isaid Shani controls the world like a policeman.Because > of Shani's Uccha position in Tula,all the activities are balanced,otherwise > everywhere there will be no rule and everybody tries to act as per his own > thinking.If in any place or in anybody's life some evil activities happen, > first he will come and see who is wrong and who is right and then the > results are given by him.If the country's ruling is not upto the mark,he > will take actions so that the ruling will improve and even if the ruling id > not ok,then that government will fall and make chance to another government > to improve the ruling.This is what is happening in the world.If you closely > watch Shani's movement connected to each country's Moon sign or Lagna,you > may be able to find out what is happening and what will be result etc. > > These are my views and still I am doing some studies in this aspect > also. > > Everybody Shani is a malefic planet and his sadesathi gives a lot of > troubles etc.Why this is like this ? Actually Shani is not malefic but he is > the controlloer and corrector of Karmas in the world and due to one's bad > Karmas in his previous life,one suffers which I can say is the punishment > given by Shani to correct him/her to improve his/her lifestyle in this > life.So if one follows the path of Dharma,truth,helping nature,respecting > each other,Shani will respect such natives and he gives mental happiness and > wealth so that the native lives happily and help others also.Shani is > considered as a Lame and during Shani's sadesathi,if one sends his hard > earned money as donation to orphanage,leprosy Ashrams or Old age Ashrams ( > Vriddhashramas ),then about 75% of Shani's evil effects will be reduced. > > I hope this helps you. > > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit@s...> wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Ramadas, Namaste > > > > You said "Shani is Uccha in Tula Rasi and this means he wants > control the whole world like a policeman" > > > > What is the relationship of Shani getting Uccha in Tula Rasi and his > controlling the world like a policeman? Please share your views on this. > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > > > > > > Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] > Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:33 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and Ramadas > > > > ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, > > om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| > > tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. > > tanno durgiù pracodayät|| > > Dear Sarajit, > > Marriage is a Dharma related activity and to Shani is also a planet > who makes a person follow in Dharmic ways.You know that Shani is Uccha in > Tula Rasi and this means he wants control the whole world like a > policeman.Nobody or no actions will be performed without his permission.Now > Gurucan bless the native for getting married and the marriage will be fixed > on such and such date.But as long as Shani does not approve it,the marriage > date can be postponed or some other incidents will happen so as to postpone > the marriage.As per my knowledge,I have seen a lot charts and they agree on > this theory but there may be exceptions which I have to study. > > I hope this helps you, > > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, > > Ramadas Rao. > > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit@s...> wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Ramadas, > > > > You said "Shani is Karma Karaka and without his sanctions the > event will not happen" > > > > Does this mean that all the actions in this world should be > influenced by Saturn or rather agreed by Saturn? We have different karakas > for that while literally mean doers or who bring about those actions. Please > share your views on this. > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > > > > > > Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] > Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:12 AM > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Timing marriage - Jay and > Ramadas > > > > ` kaTynay ivÒhe kNyak…mair xImih, > > om kätyanäya vidmahe kanyäkumäri dhémahi| > > tÚae ÊigR> àcaedyat!. > > tanno durgiù pracodayät|| > > Dear Hari, > > I have seen the double transits working but if the natal planets > are Vakra,then we have to see the transits in a different view.Also your > view about Guru transitting UL is also works out.But according to me transit > Shani should also aspect UL Lord as Shani is Karma Karaka and without his > sanctions the event will not happen. > > I hope this helps you, > > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, > > Ramadas Rao. > > onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote: > > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Dear Jay and Ramadas, > > Pranaams to you both. > > With due respect to your opinions, I must however state that I > have > not found this double transit to work always. A case in point is > my > own case where Ju & Sa have already transited through the 7th > house > of Ta with Mo MD running at that time. Marriage did not happen > then > nor looks likely to happen in the near future. > > Based on my discussions with Sarajit, I rewrite the double > transit > principle as follows:- > > "The double transit of Ju-Sa affecting 7th house or 7th lord can > give marriage but the converse is not true." > > In the cases I have examined, I found that transit effect of Ju > on > UL or 2nd from UL is more reliable. This however is only my > humble > observation. As per COVA (if I understand correctly), transit > Sa's > influence on 7th house or 7th lord will delay the event of > marriage > unless it be lagna or 7th lord. > > regards > Hari > > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao > <ramadasrao> wrote: > > > > ` nmae naray[ay > > > > om namo näräyaëäya > > Dear Jay, > > You are correct.I have checked by using this double transit > method > > and is giving good results. > > With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Terms of > Service. > > India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your > profile. > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 om sarvamohinyai vidmahe viçvajananiyai dhémahi tÚ> zi´ àcaedyat!, tannaù çakti pracodayät| Dear Hari, You are most welcome. With Sri Bhuvaneshwari Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Shri Ramadas,Many thanks for explaining the double transit technique when the planets are vakra or retrograde. Now you have explained with respect to 7th house or 7th lord only but as per your explanation, my understanding is that the natal position of retrograde planet is more important and there should be some aspect to or transit over this natal position. Special thanks also for continuing further with reference to my chart. Of course, if the transits be favorable, then the operating dasha should also be favorable for the event to happen. regardsHariArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Post your profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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