RE: Sat (R) and Rahu together in Second house

October 5, 2003

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Friends,

I have made following brief notes from Komila Sutton's book on Rahu's and Ketu's

conjunctions with various planets. I understand that these are stand alone

comments and placements and aspects need to be considered. As I understand she

holds Rahu responsible for enhancing the effects of the karkas of the planet it

is placed with, sometimes in devious ways! She links Ketu mostly with the past

with qualities of renunciation!

At the same time she also shows Rahu and Ketu afflicting material and physical

attributes of the houses they are placed in.

Kind Regards

Ramesh

KARMIC CONNECTION WITH KETU

KETU CONJUNCT WITH

SUN

KS: OBSTRUCTS GROWTH IN LIFE, POSSIBLE LOSS OF REPUTATION, DIFF REL WITH FATHER,

MAY BE REJECTED BY FATHER IN SM WAY

MOON

KS: MOON REP MIND, CONJUNCT WITH MOKSHA KARKA=GRET PSYCHIC POWERS, LOOK INTO

PAST, PROB WITH MOTHER, KETU CAUSES INJURIES, TEND SUICIDE!

MARS

KS:MAY FEAR VILENCE, PAST CONNECTION WITH WAR, BLOOD, VIOLENCE, GD LEADER IN

POLICE, ARMED FORCES , SPECIAL CONNECTION WITH BROTHER(S),

MERCURY

KS: KETU MAY BLOCK YR ABILITY TO USE 'INTELLECTUAL MIND', MAY BE GD FOR

ABSTRACT THINKING, INTUTIVE, PSYCHIC, INTELLECT ENERGY NOT USED IN PAST, USE IT

FOR GD PURPOSE, TEACH WRITE, CAN LEAD TO DEVIUOSNESS, UNDERHANDEDNESS

JUPITER

KS: REL'SHIPS, CHILDREN, KNOW BIG ISSUES, FOR WOMEN JUP = HUSB, MAY MARRY SOME

ONE DIFFERENT, OTHER CAST/REL, UNFINISHED BUSINESS WITH PARTNERS/REL'SHIPS,

KARMIC REL WITH SONS, ESP ELDEST, SEPERATION OR GUILT CONNECTED WITH THEM

VENUS

KS: ATTRACT PARTNERS WHO CARRY LOTS OF EMOTIONAL OR SPIRITUAL BAGGAGE, LEAD TO

EXPERIMENTATION WITH SEXUALITY THRY GAY/LESB RELASHIONSHIPS, MAN MAY CHOOSE

PARTNER NOT ACCEPTABLE TO CAST OR CLASS, FAM

SATURN

KS: KETU LIKE MARS IS GREATEST ENEMY OF SATURN, SATURN SEPERATES - KETU

RENOUNCES, KETU MAY NOT WANT U SEE ISSUES SATURN PRESSING FOR, MAY BLOCK YR

MIND

KARMIC CONNECTION WITH RAHU

RAHU CONJUNCT WITH

SUN

KR: RAHU ECLIPSES SUN, ENHANCES QUALITIES OF SUN, IMMENSE MARK ON WORLD,

SUCCESS, FAME, POLITIAL CAREER, RAHU=SAT ENHANCES NEGATIVES OF SUN, OVER-ANMB,

SALISH, RIGIDITY, SCANDLE, FOREIGN CONNECTION, PROB/SEP FROM FATHER

MOON

KR: MOON IS AFRAID OF RAHU, FEAR, ANXIETY, DISTRUST. MIND, MOTHER, EMOTIONS

WILL SUFFER, MEDITATION WILL HELP, 8TH HS PLACEMENT BAD

MARS

KR: RAHU LIKE SATURN IS ENEMY OF MARS, OUTWORD COURAGE, INNER FEAR, ATHLETIC

PROWESS, ADVENTURE, CORAGE, OVER SEXUAL, ACCIDENT PRONE

MERCURY

KR: FRIENDS, RAHU HIGHLIGHTS PURE INTELLECT OF MERC, POWERFUL INTELLIGENCE,

SHARP MIND, MAY NOT BE HONEST

JUPITER

KR: ENHANCES GD LUCK, EXPERIENCES BENEFICENCE N EXPANSIVENESS, SEEK HIGHEST

KNOWLEDGE, LEARNINGS, FOREIGN PHILOSOPHIES, GIVES WEALTH NOT HAPPINESS, SPOILS

PURITY OF JUP, WOMEN ATTRACTED TO FOREIGN MEN, UNCONVENTIONAL MARRIAGE,

JUP=ELDEST SON, MAY BE ADOPTED

VENUS

KR: FRIENDS,GIV FIN N MAT WEALTH, RAHU EMPHASISES CHAR BEAUTY, TAKE AWAY PURITY,

MAN ATTRACTED TO FOREIGN WOMEN, WOMEN MAY HV EXPERIENCED SEX, DRUGS ETC, FEAR!

SATURN

SHRAPIT YOGA, PROBLEMS RELATED TO MARRIAGE, MENTAL SICKNESS, THEFT. KR: RHU ACTS

LIKE SATURN=DOUBLY MALEFIC, SATURN ACTS PHYSICALLY, RAHU PSYCHOLOGICAL STRUGGLE,

LEARN TO RECOG LIMITATIONS, GIVE IMMENSE PATIENCE, NO OPTIO BUT TO FACE

Ramani Alwar

[aramani_1969 ]Sunday, October 05, 2003 3:06 AMTo:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Sat ® and Rahu

together in Second house

Dear J. Weiss,

Usually Rahu and Ketu and their impact on the native cannot be

predicted very easily. Because we have to consider many things. Moreover, it is

belived the Rahu and Ketu have observed the native over the janmas and hence

they can reduce or increase the effect of other raja yogas accordingly.

Usually the Rahu and ketu can absorb the energy of the planet with it

they conjunct. Hence the conjunction of Rahu and Ketu are considered very much

and analysed by the skilled astrologers. Since Rahu can absorb the energy of

the planet it is in conjunction, and also the Rahu and Ketu act as per the lord

of the sign in which they are placed. Some astrological texts say that Rahu act

like Saturn and Ketu act like Mars.

Coming to the arguement of conjunction, Rahu or ketu when conjuncted with

any planets with in 10 degrees only, the effect whether malefic or benefic will

be pronounced. Coming to the arguement of Shrapit dosa within 10 degrees only

it can have the effect. When Rahu conjunct with any planet the other planet

loses its strength to some extent. As we know even in the Guru Chandala yoga

the Jupiter loses its strength. The native may get some sorrows due to the

children. Also the progress of the native can be seen only after a lot of

efforts.

Not only with Saturn but also with Mars if Rahu conjuncts the problems

are severe. But while analysing we have to consider many things in general. If

Mars or Saturn aspect the rahu the rahu's evil effects are activated very much.

Where as the benefic planet if aspect Rahu or Ketu the evil effects are

nullified to some extent. The malefic effect of Rahu and Saturn conjunction, or

Rahu and mars conjunction is that the native may meet accidents during those

dasa periods, here again the magnitude of evil effect is balanced or enhaunced

more according to the transit of planets. Mars and Rahu conjunction if stronger

with the aspect of benefic planets may render the divorce in married

relations.When Rahu conjunct with evil planets those evil planets if

debilitated then the dosa shows really the effect very much, on such occasions

really the remedial measures are needed to the 100% level.

In many case the Kal Sarp or similar dosa the effect is very much not seen

if Rahu or Ketu are aspected by the benefic planets. The presence of Gaja Kesari

yoga in a natal chart nullifies any dosa if present. Moreover, if the lord of

the ascendant is stronger the native feels the doas is nothing, the same way

the lord of the fifth and ninth houses protect the native very well. Like wise

we have to consider many things in general before we conclude the magnitude of

the dosas in the natal chart.

We are going to watch the effect of the conjunction of Rahu and Mars soon

around March in the Mundane level. But here again Jupiter is aspecting the

Aries sign which gives us the hope the evil effect will be less than expected.

Does only the conjunction of evil planets cause problems? No even the

conjunction of benefic planets in any house can cause problem than the evil

planets provided they conjuncted in the same degree. Then those two planets

lose their karaka too much and will be dull. Those dasas may not be fruitful

to teh native.

More discussions and questions on this mail is welcome.

Yours sincerely

A. Ramani.

"J. Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Ramani,

Allow me to repeat what I wrote a while ago:

This conjunction (Rahu/Saturn) is a "long termed one" (by minutes and degrees,

not mentioning by sign) and is found in many MILLIONS of charts where

(generally) 33% will be in 3/6/10 &11 houses and 66% in the others.

There has to be more to it (like other aspect etc.) in order to have an extra

ordinary impact on a persons life (besides the usual Rahu conj. stuff).

It's pity that none of the advanced gurus has not written yet in this regard.

Regards

Jay Weiss

-

Ramani Alwar

vedic astrology

Saturday, October 04, 2003 5:47 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Sat ® and Rahu together in Second house

Hi

Eventhough the Shrapit dosa can be a dosa, the native can enjoy the benefit

also due to this conjunction of Rahu and Saturn provided in the 3rd, 6th, 10th

and 11th houses. because being malefic in those houses it becomes a great

benefit to the native. But more problems are complaint only if the same

conjunction is found in 1st, 2nd, 4th, 7th, 8th and 12th houses.

In general the conjunction of Rahu with any planet causes problem.

A. Ramani.

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October 5, 2003

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Friends,

I wish to clarify that point related to shrapit yoga for Rahu/Saturn conjunction

is not mentioned in Komila's book. Her comments are listed against KS:

Kind regards

Ramesh

Ramesh Gangaramani

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