Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Hi Ramesh, Afaik, a Sa-Ve association won't qualify for a vry. For that to happen, any two of 6L, 8L and 12L must associate, automatically leaving Ve out of the equation in the instant case. The bigger problem here is Su because it's never comfy when 1L gets to be in mks. I hope Ju aspects at least one of Su or lagna. And where's Mo? In case you want my view, you shouldn't be attaching the chart, 'cause I don't have JHL. Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli - "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" <rgangaramani <vedic astrology> Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:44 AM [vedic astrology] Veepareet Raja Yoga > Dear Members, > > I would like to know if Sat (6L and 7L) with Venus (3L > and 10L), placed in Lagna rasi for a Leo Asc will form > VRY. Sat is placed at 12.21 degrees and Venus at 12.17 > degrees. > > Lagna Lord is placed in 12th house. > > If it does form VRY, what would be the implications? > > Regards > Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Would VRP be applicable if there is an exchange of 6 & 8 lords from moon, instead of lagna ? Reg K. Ajith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Ramesh, It sounds like Lagna is pulling the 6th lord and 8th lord down, i.e. not only does the native have loss of health or even death, but his bad-wishers, fall with him. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Ramesh F. Gangaramani vedic astrology Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:44 AM [vedic astrology] Veepareet Raja Yoga Dear Members,I would like to know if Sat (6L and 7L) with Venus (3Land 10L), placed in Lagna rasi for a Leo Asc will formVRY. Sat is placed at 12.21 degrees and Venus at 12.17degrees.Lagna Lord is placed in 12th house.If it does form VRY, what would be the implications?RegardsRameshDo you ? Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook.http://calendar.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Hari Om Dear Visti, How did you figure where Ju is? Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:49 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Veepareet Raja Yoga |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Ramesh, It sounds like Lagna is pulling the 6th lord and 8th lord down, i.e. not only does the native have loss of health or even death, but his bad-wishers, fall with him. Best wishesVisti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Dear Ajith, If VRP means Vipareeta Parivartana, which is what you've implied in words too, I haven't heard of it, though it sounds like there could be something there. Worth investigating, both from lagna and Moon! I hope the gurus chip in on this thread. Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli - <ajith <vedic astrology> Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:44 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Veepareet Raja Yoga > > > Would VRP be applicable if there is an exchange of 6 & 8 lords from moon, > instead of lagna ? > > Reg > > K. Ajith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 my mistake - correct that to 3rd and 6th lord Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Ramapriya D vedic astrology Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:53 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Veepareet Raja Yoga Hari Om Dear Visti, How did you figure where Ju is? Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:49 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Veepareet Raja Yoga |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Ramesh, It sounds like Lagna is pulling the 6th lord and 8th lord down, i.e. not only does the native have loss of health or even death, but his bad-wishers, fall with him. Best wishesVistiArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Dear Rampriya, Thank you for your imput. Ju ® is debilitated and Vergottama, placed in 6th. Moon is in 2nd with Ketu. I guess you are pulling my leg in the last para. But never mind! Best Regards Ramesh --- Ramapriya D <hubli wrote: > Hi Ramesh, > > Afaik, a Sa-Ve association won't qualify for a vry. > For that to happen, any > two of 6L, 8L and 12L must associate, automatically > leaving Ve out of the > equation in the instant case. > > The bigger problem here is Su because it's never > comfy when 1L gets to be in > mks. I hope Ju aspects at least one of Su or lagna. > And where's Mo? In case > you want my view, you shouldn't be attaching the > chart, 'cause I don't have > JHL. > > Warm regards, > > Ramapriya > hubli > > - > "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > <rgangaramani > <vedic astrology> > Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:44 AM > [vedic astrology] Veepareet Raja Yoga > > > > Dear Members, > > > > I would like to know if Sat (6L and 7L) with Venus > (3L > > and 10L), placed in Lagna rasi for a Leo Asc will > form > > VRY. Sat is placed at 12.21 degrees and Venus at > 12.17 > > degrees. > > > > Lagna Lord is placed in 12th house. > > > > If it does form VRY, what would be the > implications? > > > > Regards > > Ramesh > > > Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. http://calendar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Nope Ramesh, I don't have JHL. I've it in my two hard disks that I ported from India but haven't bought a home PC yet. And I've not yet installed JHL in the office (no admin rights until 10-odd days). 8L deb in 6H certainly doesn't sound like good news but since it's retro, the onset may be delayed. One more thing - since 7L is in 1H, dwisaptati sama dasa is to be seen more closely for this native and in the chart, the mokshasthanadhipathi is with the natural mokshakaraka. Get that investigated! Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli - "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" <rgangaramani <vedic astrology> Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:58 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Veepareet Raja Yoga > Dear Rampriya, > > Thank you for your imput. Ju ® is debilitated and > Vergottama, placed in 6th. Moon is in 2nd with Ketu. > > I guess you are pulling my leg in the last para. But > never mind! > > Best Regards > Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Dear Rampriya, Where are you located now? Regards Ramesh --- Ramapriya D <hubli wrote: > Nope Ramesh, > > I don't have JHL. I've it in my two hard disks that > I ported from India but > haven't bought a home PC yet. And I've not yet > installed JHL in the office > (no admin rights until 10-odd days). > > 8L deb in 6H certainly doesn't sound like good news > but since it's retro, > the onset may be delayed. > > One more thing - since 7L is in 1H, dwisaptati sama > dasa is to be seen more > closely for this native and in the chart, the > mokshasthanadhipathi is with > the natural mokshakaraka. Get that investigated! > > Warm regards, > > Ramapriya > hubli > > > - > "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > <rgangaramani > <vedic astrology> > Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:58 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Veepareet Raja Yoga > > > > Dear Rampriya, > > > > Thank you for your imput. Ju ® is debilitated > and > > Vergottama, placed in 6th. Moon is in 2nd with > Ketu. > > > > I guess you are pulling my leg in the last para. > But > > never mind! > > > > Best Regards > > Ramesh > > > Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. http://calendar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 25-18N, 55-18E (+4), aka Dubai ) Ramapriya - "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" <rgangaramani <vedic astrology> Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:40 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Veepareet Raja Yoga > Dear Rampriya, > Where are you located now? > Regards > Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 welcome! my co-ordinates are almost identical. would love to hear from you and meet you. My contact no. 050-6502437. Regards Ramesh --- Ramapriya D <hubli wrote: > 25-18N, 55-18E (+4), aka Dubai ) > > Ramapriya > > - > "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > <rgangaramani > <vedic astrology> > Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:40 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Veepareet Raja Yoga > > > > Dear Rampriya, > > Where are you located now? > > Regards > > Ramesh > > > Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. http://calendar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Dear Ramesh, I do not think so. Chandrashekhar. - Ramesh F. Gangaramani vedic astrology Wednesday, June 11, 2003 1:14 PM [vedic astrology] Veepareet Raja Yoga Dear Members,I would like to know if Sat (6L and 7L) with Venus (3Land 10L), placed in Lagna rasi for a Leo Asc will formVRY. Sat is placed at 12.21 degrees and Venus at 12.17degrees.Lagna Lord is placed in 12th house.If it does form VRY, what would be the implications?RegardsRameshDo you ? Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook.http://calendar. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 5/30/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Dear Visiti, Here we go again predicting death. Dont u think its premature to do such predictions. Im just staring at the message and laffin. Since apprently ur mentioning of death baiscally leave no room for human free will. For all the learned gurus and knowledge people before predicting death and so on I would suggest a visit to the following site. http://www.galacticcenter.org/fateanddestiny.htm Perhaps it might add some more touch of knowledge and perhaps people in the forum stop predicting death and issues like death. Cause it dosent sound like astrology. But it rather sounds very prematures. Perhaps like trying to predict lottery results everyday day after day and non really hitting. So please all the learned people, Im sure with the knowlege of astrology and religion. I think ethical and right moral issues will dictate it is incorrect to carry out reseach in yama (lord of death) or death it self. To all those spritual gurus I havent mentioned this, this is mentioned in the old scriptures that give astrology to us. And to the others who dont take a spritual standpoint. Well its plain and simple. Death is very hard to predict and just to showoff astrological abilites by mentionig about death is not excatly the right way to procced with astrology. regards and I hope my point gets through, It hasnt so far. Best wishes God Bless Ums Ps. Complete dependence of astrology is very unhealty. Becaue every divine science comes with comprimises. And so it is in this case too vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > |Hare Rama Krishna| > Dear Ramesh, > It sounds like Lagna is pulling the 6th lord and 8th lord down, i.e. not only does the native have loss of health or even death, but his bad-wishers, fall with him. > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > - > Ramesh F. Gangaramani > vedic astrology > Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:44 AM > [vedic astrology] Veepareet Raja Yoga > > > Dear Members, > > I would like to know if Sat (6L and 7L) with Venus (3L > and 10L), placed in Lagna rasi for a Leo Asc will form > VRY. Sat is placed at 12.21 degrees and Venus at 12.17 > degrees. > > Lagna Lord is placed in 12th house. > > If it does form VRY, what would be the implications? > > Regards > Ramesh > > > > Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. > http://calendar. > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2003 Report Share Posted June 12, 2003 >Predicting death is not like lottery, and even lottery can be predicted..if you take some time out to try and learn how >to do so. Respectfully, how can lottery be predicted ? Any proven method through prashna or some system .... Denis - Sanjay Rath vedic astrology Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:40 PM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Veepareet Raja Yoga [Rath:] What sounds like astrology? Description of hair style and lucky color for shoes!!! Jyotish is not meant for the weak hearted. Be strong and know that you are IMMORTAL. Neither the wind nor water nor earth nor the fire can kill you, for you are in reality an Atman. So what is there to fear while discussing death. The knowledge of spirituality and all religions has its roots in the question of life after death. So why fear it if you want to know it. Predicting death is not like lottery, and even lottery can be predicted..if you take some time out to try and learn how to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2003 Report Share Posted June 12, 2003 I have had some results with this. I tried to ascertain a favourable time to purchase a lottery ticket. This is quite hard to do as you have to be able to buy the ticket at the exact moment required, if you look into the D60 chart this can be down to a time period of seconds. If there is someone ahead of you in the shop queue this will not be possible. The one time I managed to buy the ticket at the predicted time the number I chose at random won me a prize 6 times! it wasn't much money compared to the total jackpot but the fact that the ticket I purchased gave me 6 wins impressed me. I think a lot has to do with your own natal chart as well, if there are no indications of monetary windfall it will be difficult. love jaan vedic astrology, "Denis 1008" <denis1008> wrote: > >Predicting death is not like lottery, and even lottery can be predicted..if you take some time out to try and learn how >to do so. > > Respectfully, how can lottery be predicted ? Any proven method through prashna or some system .... > > Denis > > > - > Sanjay Rath > vedic astrology > Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:40 PM > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Veepareet Raja Yoga > > > > [Rath:] What sounds like astrology? Description of hair style and lucky color for shoes!!! Jyotish is not meant for the weak hearted. Be strong and know that you are IMMORTAL. Neither the wind nor water nor earth nor the fire can kill you, for you are in reality an Atman. So what is there to fear while discussing death. The knowledge of spirituality and all religions has its roots in the question of life after death. So why fear it if you want to know it. Predicting death is not like lottery, and even lottery can be predicted..if you take some time out to try and learn how to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2003 Report Share Posted June 12, 2003 Hello, Can you tell us which Muhurtas did you use to buy lottery tickets?Best wishes,Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - ray1k vedic astrology Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:52 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Veepareet Raja Yoga I have had some results with this. I tried to ascertain a favourable time to purchase a lottery ticket. This is quite hard to do as you have to be able to buy the ticket at the exact moment required, if you look into the D60 chart this can be down to a time period of seconds. If there is someone ahead of you in the shop queue this will not be possible.The one time I managed to buy the ticket at the predicted time the number I chose at random won me a prize 6 times! it wasn't much money compared to the total jackpot but the fact that the ticket I purchased gave me 6 wins impressed me.I think a lot has to do with your own natal chart as well, if there are no indications of monetary windfall it will be difficult.lovejaanvedic astrology, "Denis 1008" <denis1008> wrote:> >Predicting death is not like lottery, and even lottery can be predicted..if you take some time out to try and learn how >to do so.> > Respectfully, how can lottery be predicted ? Any proven method through prashna or some system ....> > Denis> > > - > Sanjay Rath > vedic astrology > Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:40 PM> RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Veepareet Raja Yoga> > > > [Rath:] What sounds like astrology? Description of hair style and lucky color for shoes!!! Jyotish is not meant for the weak hearted. Be strong and know that you are IMMORTAL. Neither the wind nor water nor earth nor the fire can kill you, for you are in reality an Atman. So what is there to fear while discussing death. The knowledge of spirituality and all religions has its roots in the question of life after death. So why fear it if you want to know it. Predicting death is not like lottery, and even lottery can be predicted..if you take some time out to try and learn how to do so.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2003 Report Share Posted June 12, 2003 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Sanjay, Excellent thoughts... As you all can see Jyotish teaches us that the death is not the end, and that is why 8th house in the horoscope is primarily the house of transformations, not the final "end" which is seen in 12th house of final emancipation or moksha. So we should not adjust this Divine phylosphy to ordinary thinking of people in this Kali age.. Best wishes Zoran Sanjay Rath wrote: |brihaspatim varenyam| Dear UMS Dear Visiti, Here we go again predicting death. Dont u think its premature to do such predictions. Im just staring at the message and laffin. Since apprently ur mentioning of death baiscally leave no room for human free will. [Rath:] What is premature about the statement Visti made? Has he said that the native dies because of that combination, and if so, are we not supposed to find out the reasons and causes of death or apamrityu. If you know so much can you show me even ONE horoscope of a normal person (not spiritualist) who has lived his entire life as ordained by the calculations through the "Eight systems of Dasa Ayus". If not then stop laughing and start reading. For all the learned gurus and knowledge people before predicting death and so on I would suggest a visit to the following site. http://www.galacticcenter.org/fateanddestiny.htm [Rath:] I will not visit that site but will read Parasara and Jaimini instead. If you have some views from that web which you think need to be discussed, go ahead and quote them. I am willing to discuss them. Perhaps it might add some more touch of knowledge and perhaps people in the forum stop predicting death and issues like death. Cause it dosent sound like astrology. But it rather sounds very prematures. Perhaps like trying to predict lottery results everyday day after day and non really hitting. [Rath:] What sounds like astrology? Description of hair style and lucky color for shoes!!! Jyotish is not meant for the weak hearted. Be strong and know that you are IMMORTAL. Neither the wind nor water nor earth nor the fire can kill you, for you are in reality an Atman. So what is there to fear while discussing death. The knowledge of spirituality and all religions has its roots in the question of life after death. So why fear it if you want to know it. Predicting death is not like lottery, and even lottery can be predicted..if you take some time out to try and learn how to do so. So please all the learned people, Im sure with the knowlege of astrology and religion. I think ethical and right moral issues will dictate it is incorrect to carry out reseach in yama (lord of death) or death it self. To all those spritual gurus I havent mentioned this, this is mentioned in the old scriptures that give astrology to us. And to the others who dont take a spritual standpoint. Well its plain and simple. Death is very hard to predict and just to showoff astrological abilites by mentionig about death is not excatly the right way to procced with astrology. [Rath:] My definition of ehtics in Jyotish comes from the chapters of Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra. Where does yours come from? Can you give us those quotes that forbid discussion on end of life (except for a saint/seer). Simply because something is hard to predict does not mean we should run away from it, and instead should work as hard or harder to know it. What is Visti showing off about? The knowledge that a paribvartana yoga involving the house of Ayus and another dusthana lord can be a Vipareeta Rajyoga involving the significations of the houses concerned. Is he not right? Ps. Complete dependence of astrology is very unhealty. Becaue every divine science comes with comprimises. And so it is in this case too [Rath:] From where did you get this quote? Can you give us the reference, and if not, please realise that whether we like it or not we are COMPLETELY DEPENDANT on the laws of Dharma administered through the TRIPADA of Vishnu. The Rig Veda says "triNipadaa vicakrame viSNurgopaa adabhyaM atho dharmaaNi dhaarayan"..now what is VI-CHAKRA-ME...any thoughts? What are the compromises that we have to make for Jyotisa. vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > |Hare Rama Krishna| > Dear Ramesh, > It sounds like Lagna is pulling the 6th lord and 8th lord down, i.e. not only does the native have loss of health or even death, but his bad-wishers, fall with him. > Best wishes > Visti > --- Group info: vedic astrology/info.html || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Terms of Service .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2003 Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear UMS, This forum discusses astrological techniques in all sincerity. The question furnished was related to a particular combination and Visti answered it. If the question related to counselling/art of counselling then i am sure Visti would have answered it also. i find too many contradictory statements in your mail. At one point you start saying you had gained much and later you say you stand remain where you were when you joined! To receive fresh air you will have to open your windows and doors. To receive light seek the blessings of your BK and Ishta devatha. If the board is plain the teacher writes on it so that you can understand. Now that i understand your board is full with notions gained previously. At one time you seek and at one time you start teaching and advising. When people like me understand that counselling is better part than prediction then why not Sanjay/Visti? Why should Sanjay write Vedic remedial measures? Why should both help by prescribing Mantras in this forum? Markandeya had the prior knowledge of his death. Before the appointed time he entered the sanctum sanctorum of Lord Maheswara and embraced the lord. One small subtle hint is here.Entering into Garba griha means tracing the source. He(his AK) clung on to LINGA SHARIRA leaving the Aruda sharira(maya) uncared. This means he was successful in tracing the source of AK which verily means the death of AK. By virtue of his prior knowledge and inner wisdom he understood the fallacy of his sharira and virtuously cast it away by clinging on to the Lord as his real source rather than his sharira, well before the arrival of Yama/appointed time. Yama had been won by Markandeya by proving his arrival time as wrong. That is why no attempt is to be made to predict the death of saints. The day when one goes beyond the deha-atma-buddhi consciousness, the day when the 'i' becomes 'we', the day when the bandha/attachment with the sharira is burnt/given up,the day when the Aruda sharira is exchanged with the Divya sharira, the day when the realisation dawns and renunciation materialises, let us understand the boundaries of KALA is crossed and that is the day when the MAHAKALA blesses the night as day - MAHASHIVARATRI! When astrology gives prior knowledge it only helps people to understand the upper hand of the ALMIGHTY. Astrology is called as Jyotish vidya. It is undoubtedly a Marga. It throws light on the inner blocks. It helps identifying the inner cobwebs. It helps identifying the Guru Devatha and Ishta Devatha. Ishta devatha helps in pulling down the curtains for AK. Third and sixth houses(upachaya sthanas) with reference to Arudha lagna if contains benefics speak of the spiritual inputs of the individual. If the houses contain malefics then the blocks are identified and the Guru helps the AK with sound advises. With reference to AK, BK is the third in the row. This helps us in understanding that Guru has a definite role in our free-will. Ajna chakra is the 6th in the row in the path of Kundalini where Guru is the Lord. This helps in understanding that Guru Ajna is essential and influential, so far as our free-will is concerned. Tenth being the 2nd to 9th it indicates that karmas performed as ordained by Guru can result in the death of kama while 11th being 3rd from 9th(deiva-sankalpa/will of Guru) can result in removing the negative traits of 6th(habits). A seeker gains. A teacher gains. It is those persons who are in between who find it difficult to gain. Ask yourself the question whether you are a seeker or a teacher. Do not allow your AK to form opinions at a juncture when you are not clear about your directions. Seek the help of your Bratru Karaka. Pray fervently. i am sure Guru devatha would definitely help you. Submission of 'I' is easily said than practised. Address your problems to your Guru. He will defintely dispel your darkness. AUM SHANTHI SHANTHI SHANTHIHI. Best wishes, psramanrayanan Watch Hallmark. Enjoy cool movies. Win hot prizes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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