Kind request for help (Severe Back Pain Case): Chandrashekarji, Patrice, tvrao_agv & all

November 19, 2003

Hope you remember me. I was waiting to write this email since 1 week. I had my

MRI scan done & a lot of tests done. Basically the doctors are not able to find

anything....the tests are showing confusing results....the bottom line though is

that i am being treated as a spondo-arthiopathy patient. the doc said it is

better than arthritis meaning i am not arthritic....which is good news since i

need to get pregnant in 3 months.... with your blessings. Just wanted to let

you people know what was the result.

Also can i take ayurvedic & homeopathy medicne together.....???? cos all the

doc's i go to say a big NO to me.

I also have one more problem. My brother is having a very tough time. He has

Kaal sarpa yoga.....& my father just passed away......so he is having a very

tough time with mom's responsibility....& has no job right now.

Name. Manoj Motiani.DOB. 16th May 1978. 3.30 PMPlace. Ahmedabad ( Gujarat)

Thank you very much for all you responses....i went to the doc only after

Patrice told me it might circulatory problem....

Sincerly & Thanks once again

Ekta.

Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Chintan,Ekta might get some relief if she tries " Hypericum" in 200 potency

, which is a Homeopathic Medicine. I know that this is not Jyotish, but a

Jyotishai is supposed to help people allievate their suffering and hence the

suggestion.Chandrashekhar.Chintan Chhaya wrote:

A little more information of the above case, from Ekta.

Seeking all your help,

Kind regards,

Chintan.

Patrice,

This is Ekta. Thanks for replying to the message. Here are the details.

Since i am a computer professional, i sit a lot, i had coccyx pain once before i

got married on March 17 2002. i got pregnant & delivered a baby girl on Jan11

2003.

Normal delivery excpt that the baby died in 12-15 minutes as it could not breathe.

After my delivery.....i have this pain in my lower back & coccyx too. it just

does not go. i am not able to sit for more than 15 minutes...if i sit for more

i have to sit on my side hip.

i cannot go out anywhere cos i am not able to walk for more than 15-30 minutes a

lot. i was very active but this has become a handicap for me now. I am 31 now &

would like to concive, but cannot think about it till my pain does not go.

Can you help ????

Thanks much,

Ekta.

Chintan Chhaya <chintanchhaya > wrote:

Ekta, can you please reply to this message explaining the details of the problem

/ pain you are suffering. Patrice Curry <patricecurry (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: To:

"Patrice Curry" Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:14:21 -0500Re:

[vedic astrology] Kind request for help (Severe Back Pain Case)

Dear Chintan,

Is this specifically lower back pain, or back pain in general?

Thanks for clarifying.

Kindest regards,

Patrice

________

Respected Gurujis and Learned Members,

It is my humble request to help My friend , Ekta, who is suffering from a severe

back pain since last couple of months. Despite of consulting doctors and

specialists, there is no respite in her pain. I am sure there would be some

remedy which would help her easing the pain over the time and seeking your

generous help.

Here is the birth details:

Date : 24 January, 1973

Time : 8:20 AM

Place : Baroda (Gujarat), INDIA - 22° N 19' & 73° E 14'

Timezone: GMT +0530

Thanks in advance,

Kind Regards,

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November 19, 2003

Dear Ekta,

Of course I remember you... and I'm happy to hear that you have been to the

doctors and had these tests but wish for you that the results were more

telling. I was hoping there would be more information for you as Mars came out

of Satabisha on the 16th, which was this last Sunday. Perhaps the results will

still be made more clear. Thank you for sharing what you have found out and

what you are learning from the results of these tests.

Also Ekta, my deepest condolences to you and your family for the loss of your father.

I'd also like to clearly say here again that it is absolutely true that both

Ayurveda and homeopathy can be used together. There are many Ayurvedic

practitioners that do this and I know as well from a homeopathic perspective it

is absolutely fine. There are doctors who don't know both or prefer to use the

one that they know more, but as far as causing any problems or delay in

healing, interference with one another, this is not a consideration as they are

compatible with one another. I don't know why your doctors are telling you this

is not to be done and can't speak on their behalf.

As I'm not an Ayurvedic doctor myself, I spoke to David Frawley who is very well

known in Ayurveda, and he said that there is definitely no problem in using both

and that there are many Ayurvedic practitioners in India who do use both. From a

homeopathic standpoint, I've had the fortune to study and take courses with very

learned and respected homeopaths and I know that this is not a problem from

their perspective, or with the traditional teaching of homeopathy.

Separately, as far as the Bach Flowers Essences are concerned, I am a trained

practitioner of Bach and can tell you that there is definitely again no problem

or interference by way of the Flowers or their effect on other treatments and

medications in using the Essences with any other type of treatment.

Having said all the above, I'm sure you trust your own physicians and wish to

follow their advice, which I don't want to dismiss, but also want to share this

information and other opinions.

Also would you mind sending the date when your father passed? Again, my regards

and condolences to you and your family for your great loss.

Thanks again for getting back with the results concerning your back pain. And

all best wishes and blessings for your health and upcoming plans for pregnancy.

Kindest regards,

Patrice

______________

Respected all....esp Chandrashekarji & Patrice.

Hope you remember me. I was waiting to write this email since 1 week. I had my

MRI scan done & a lot of tests done. Basically the doctors are not able to find

anything....the tests are showing confusing results....the bottom line though is

that i am being treated as a spondo-arthiopathy patient. the doc said it is

better than arthritis meaning i am not arthritic....which is good news since i

need to get pregnant in 3 months.... with your blessings. Just wanted to let

you people know what was the result.

Also can i take ayurvedic & homeopathy medicne together.....???? cos all the

doc's i go to say a big NO to me.

I also have one more problem. My brother is having a very tough time. He has

Kaal sarpa yoga.....& my father just passed away......so he is having a very

tough time with mom's responsibility....& has no job right now.

Name. Manoj Motiani.DOB. 16th May 1978. 3.30 PMPlace. Ahmedabad ( Gujarat)

Thank you very much for all you responses....i went to the doc only after

Patrice told me it might circulatory problem....

Sincerly & Thanks once again

Ekta.

November 19, 2003

Dear Ekta,

Sorry to hear about your father. About taking Ayurvedic and Homeopathic

medicines together, my advise would be to take either one and not both at a

time. The reason is that Homeopathy works on the basis of what element is

poisoning(in a way) your constitution, and giving the same in potentised form.

If some Ayurvedic medicine contains some substance, contraindicated by

homeopathy; in raw form the cure might be neutralized.

About your Brother, he should start doing well after Mars Antar in Moon starts

as Jupiter shifts to Virgo. Do not worry much about kalasarpa yoga, it only

indicates struggle. I think he would do well away from his birth place. Some

unexpected opportunity might arise as his malayoga starts from 8th and

terminates in 12th house. I think he has a sort of brooding nature and wavering

mind. Ask him to focus on whatever he wants to do and not waver.

Hope this helps,

Chandrashekhar.

Mrs Ekta Vengateri [esm24 ]Sent:

Wednesday, November 19, 2003 7:12 PMvedic astrologySubject:

[vedic astrology] Kind request for help (Severe Back Pain Case):

Chandrashekarji, Patrice, tvrao_agv & all

Respected all....esp Chandrashekarji & Patrice.

Hope you remember me. I was waiting to write this email since 1 week. I had my

MRI scan done & a lot of tests done. Basically the doctors are not able to find

anything....the tests are showing confusing results....the bottom line though is

that i am being treated as a spondo-arthiopathy patient. the doc said it is

better than arthritis meaning i am not arthritic....which is good news since i

need to get pregnant in 3 months.... with your blessings. Just wanted to let

you people know what was the result.

Also can i take ayurvedic & homeopathy medicne together.....???? cos all the

doc's i go to say a big NO to me.

I also have one more problem. My brother is having a very tough time. He has

Kaal sarpa yoga.....& my father just passed away......so he is having a very

tough time with mom's responsibility....& has no job right now.

Name. Manoj Motiani.DOB. 16th May 1978. 3.30 PMPlace. Ahmedabad ( Gujarat)

Thank you very much for all you responses....i went to the doc only after

Patrice told me it might circulatory problem....

Sincerly & Thanks once again

Ekta.

Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Chintan,Ekta might get some relief if she tries " Hypericum" in 200 potency

, which is a Homeopathic Medicine. I know that this is not Jyotish, but a

Jyotishai is supposed to help people allievate their suffering and hence the

suggestion.Chandrashekhar.Chintan Chhaya wrote:

A little more information of the above case, from Ekta.

Seeking all your help,

Kind regards,

Chintan.

Patrice,

This is Ekta. Thanks for replying to the message. Here are the details.

Since i am a computer professional, i sit a lot, i had coccyx pain once before i

got married on March 17 2002. i got pregnant & delivered a baby girl on Jan11

2003.

Normal delivery excpt that the baby died in 12-15 minutes as it could not breathe.

After my delivery.....i have this pain in my lower back & coccyx too. it just

does not go. i am not able to sit for more than 15 minutes...if i sit for more

i have to sit on my side hip.

i cannot go out anywhere cos i am not able to walk for more than 15-30 minutes a

lot. i was very active but this has become a handicap for me now. I am 31 now &

would like to concive, but cannot think about it till my pain does not go.

Can you help ????

Thanks much,

Ekta.

Chintan Chhaya <chintanchhaya > wrote:

Ekta, can you please reply to this message explaining the details of the problem

/ pain you are suffering. Patrice Curry <patricecurry (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: To:

"Patrice Curry" Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:14:21 -0500Re:

[vedic astrology] Kind request for help (Severe Back Pain Case)

Dear Chintan,

Is this specifically lower back pain, or back pain in general?

Thanks for clarifying.

Kindest regards,

Patrice

________

Respected Gurujis and Learned Members,

It is my humble request to help My friend , Ekta, who is suffering from a severe

back pain since last couple of months. Despite of consulting doctors and

specialists, there is no respite in her pain. I am sure there would be some

remedy which would help her easing the pain over the time and seeking your

generous help.

Here is the birth details:

Date : 24 January, 1973

Time : 8:20 AM

Place : Baroda (Gujarat), INDIA - 22° N 19' & 73° E 14'

Timezone: GMT +0530

Thanks in advance,

Kind Regards,

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November 21, 2003

Thanks much for the info. I have seen another doctor, who said i just need some

excercise's whichi have already started. I will need to do it for a

week....before analysis again.

Thanks verrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy much....for my brother's info, i have been

really worried about him. Since i do not understand jyotish much....could you

be kind enough to tell me the time of " after Mars Antar in Moon starts as

Jupiter shifts to Virgo" and " Some unexpected opportunity might arise as his

malayoga starts from 8th and terminates in 12th house. " . i mean after how

many months or yrs ???? Would you also know some japa for strengthening the

mind ???? not letting it waver..... Also when you say birthplace do you mean

the city or the state ????

Thanks much once again.RegardsEkta.Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Ekta,

Sorry to hear about your father. About taking Ayurvedic and Homeopathic

medicines together, my advise would be to take either one and not both at a

time. The reason is that Homeopathy works on the basis of what element is

poisoning(in a way) your constitution, and giving the same in potentised form.

If some Ayurvedic medicine contains some substance, contraindicated by

homeopathy; in raw form the cure might be neutralized.

About your Brother, he should start doing well after Mars Antar in Moon starts

as Jupiter shifts to Virgo. Do not worry much about kalasarpa yoga, it only

indicates struggle. I think he would do well away from his birth place. Some

unexpected opportunity might arise as his malayoga starts from 8th and

terminates in 12th house. I think he has a sort of brooding nature and wavering

mind. Ask him to focus on whatever he wants to do and not waver.

Hope this helps,

Chandrashekhar.

Mrs Ekta Vengateri [esm24 ]Sent:

Wednesday, November 19, 2003 7:12 PMvedic astrologySubject:

[vedic astrology] Kind request for help (Severe Back Pain Case):

Chandrashekarji, Patrice, tvrao_agv & all

Respected all....esp Chandrashekarji & Patrice.

Hope you remember me. I was waiting to write this email since 1 week. I had my

MRI scan done & a lot of tests done. Basically the doctors are not able to find

anything....the tests are showing confusing results....the bottom line though is

that i am being treated as a spondo-arthiopathy patient. the doc said it is

better than arthritis meaning i am not arthritic....which is good news since i

need to get pregnant in 3 months.... with your blessings. Just wanted to let

you people know what was the result.

Also can i take ayurvedic & homeopathy medicne together.....???? cos all the

doc's i go to say a big NO to me.

I also have one more problem. My brother is having a very tough time. He has

Kaal sarpa yoga.....& my father just passed away......so he is having a very

tough time with mom's responsibility....& has no job right now.

Name. Manoj Motiani.DOB. 16th May 1978. 3.30 PMPlace. Ahmedabad ( Gujarat)

Thank you very much for all you responses....i went to the doc only after

Patrice told me it might circulatory problem....

Sincerly & Thanks once again

Ekta.

Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Chintan,Ekta might get some relief if she tries " Hypericum" in 200 potency

, which is a Homeopathic Medicine. I know that this is not Jyotish, but a

Jyotishai is supposed to help people allievate their suffering and hence the

suggestion.Chandrashekhar.Chintan Chhaya wrote:

A little more information of the above case, from Ekta.

Seeking all your help,

Kind regards,

Chintan.

Patrice,

This is Ekta. Thanks for replying to the message. Here are the details.

Since i am a computer professional, i sit a lot, i had coccyx pain once before i

got married on March 17 2002. i got pregnant & delivered a baby girl on Jan11

2003.

Normal delivery excpt that the baby died in 12-15 minutes as it could not breathe.

After my delivery.....i have this pain in my lower back & coccyx too. it just

does not go. i am not able to sit for more than 15 minutes...if i sit for more

i have to sit on my side hip.

i cannot go out anywhere cos i am not able to walk for more than 15-30 minutes a

lot. i was very active but this has become a handicap for me now. I am 31 now &

would like to concive, but cannot think about it till my pain does not go.

Can you help ????

Thanks much,

Ekta.

Chintan Chhaya <chintanchhaya > wrote:

Ekta, can you please reply to this message explaining the details of the problem

/ pain you are suffering. Patrice Curry <patricecurry (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: To:

"Patrice Curry" Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:14:21 -0500Re:

[vedic astrology] Kind request for help (Severe Back Pain Case)

Dear Chintan,

Is this specifically lower back pain, or back pain in general?

Thanks for clarifying.

Kindest regards,

Patrice

________

Respected Gurujis and Learned Members,

It is my humble request to help My friend , Ekta, who is suffering from a severe

back pain since last couple of months. Despite of consulting doctors and

specialists, there is no respite in her pain. I am sure there would be some

remedy which would help her easing the pain over the time and seeking your

generous help.

Here is the birth details:

Date : 24 January, 1973

Time : 8:20 AM

Place : Baroda (Gujarat), INDIA - 22° N 19' & 73° E 14'

Timezone: GMT +0530

Thanks in advance,

Kind Regards,

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November 21, 2003

Saw another doc .....he has suggested some excersice & told me to see him

after a week.He told me nothing to worry about it is just a mismanaged spine,

since i am a computer professional.

I will try to find out any Bach proctioner in Mumbai or pune in India.

Regarding my papa.... He died on the 10th Dec 2002. Exactly a month before my

baby died ( 11 Jan 2003 ). He died between 2.00 & 5.30 some say 3.00 AM in the

night in his sleep....Exactly at that time ( bewt 2.30 to 5.30 ) i was in pune

doing vastu puja for my new house.....I am going to ask you a very wierd

question ...... Do you think the dead talk ???? because i saw his death a week

before he died ( and exactly the same way ) & after his death also i had some

dreams....

RegardsEkta.Patrice Curry <patricecurry (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: