TP Chart - Doubt--->Narasimha Ji

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Namaste Narasimha Ji,

 

Thanks for the wonderful explanation of using TP charts

with my favourite Narayana Dasa. Now I will explore this

with confidence. I am still having few doubts and may I

request you to clarify so that I can go forward on my journey

in this TP Chart analysis method.

 

1) Take an example of my case, I was born in India and currently

living in Minneapolis USA and the time difference between my

birth place and current living place is about 11 Hrs and 30 Min.

Meaning my current living palce is behind.

 

2) So when I calculate the my Narayana dasa and pinpoint an

event to occurs say Dec 17th at 20:00 hrs as per JH 5, then

I have to do my manual math by subtracting 11 hrs and 30 min

and come to a conclusion that, the event will occur on my

local time at 7:30 AM on Dec 17th. Is this you are referring

in your example as EDT. if not what is the time EDT stands for

Hope you may be giving this time difference calculation in your

next version.

 

3) Also I have see the Hora Lagna is different than what I am

getting. I could see the differnce because, I am using Sunrise

Option 3 and You are using Sunrise Option-1. Is that correct.

 

Please take few seconds to give a small answer, so that I can

go forward, otherwise I am stuck again here.

 

Thanks for examples and also I have listened to you CD' on TP

and hence my attempt to explore in detail on this wondeful

System.

 

Regards

Raghunadha Rao

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

> Dear Raghunadh,

>

> You can use all dasas - Narayana dasa, Vimsottari dasa etc.

>

> In fact, as you go down from the annual chart to the monthly and

daily charts, Tithi Ashtottari dasa doesn't work at all. It breaks

down. Vimsottari dasa works like a charm in monthly and daily charts.

Narayana dasa and its variations work well at all levels.

>

> I'll give some examples.

>

> Take my chart. Birthdata: 4th April 1970, 5:47:13 pm (IST),

Machilipatnam, India (81e08, 16n10).

>

> Take the annual TP chart of 2002-03. The data is: 10th April 2002,

11:54:50 pm (IST). Cast a chart at this time (and at birthplace co-

ordinates).

>

> Take the compressed annual Narayana dasa.

>

> Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

>

> Maha Dasas:

>

> Ge: 2002-04-10 (23:54:50) - 2002-05-10 (16:41:17)

> Aq: 2002-05-10 (16:41:17) - 2002-06-06 (3:04:45)

> Li: 2002-06-06 (3:04:45) - 2002-06-23 (9:03:52)

> Vi: 2002-06-23 (9:03:52) - 2002-07-08 (21:14:20)

> Ta: 2002-07-08 (21:14:20) - 2002-08-10 (0:41:55)

> Cp: 2002-08-10 (0:41:55) - 2002-09-03 (0:14:57)

> Sg: 2002-09-03 (0:14:57) - 2002-09-19 (18:57:35)

> Le: 2002-09-19 (18:57:35) - 2002-10-05 (3:15:40)

> Ar: 2002-10-05 (3:15:40) - 2002-10-07 (15:46:03)

> Pi: 2002-10-07 (15:46:03) - 2002-11-03 (12:15:03)

> Sc: 2002-11-03 (12:15:03) - 2002-11-21 (12:24:45)

> Cn: 2002-11-21 (12:24:45) - 2002-12-02 (21:57:42)

> Ge: 2002-12-02 (21:57:42) - 2002-12-08 (9:28:31)

> Aq: 2002-12-08 (9:28:31) - 2002-12-18 (1:54:45)

> Li: 2002-12-18 (1:54:45) - 2003-01-04 (3:46:22)

> Vi: 2003-01-04 (3:46:22) - 2003-01-25 (6:08:53)

> Ta: 2003-01-25 (6:08:53) - 2003-01-28 (0:39:09)

> Cp: 2003-01-28 (0:39:09) - 2003-02-09 (7:07:46)

> Sg: 2003-02-09 (7:07:46) - 2003-02-26 (10:31:08)

> Le: 2003-02-26 (10:31:08) - 2003-03-19 (15:29:36)

> Ar: 2003-03-19 (15:29:36) - 2003-04-20 (14:17:59)

> Pi: 2003-04-20 (14:17:59) - 2003-04-29 (16:22:56)

> Sc: 2003-04-29 (16:22:56) - 2003-05-17 (8:20:13)

> Cn: 2003-05-17 (8:20:13) - 2003-06-10 (11:46:42)

>

> Can you guess what happened in Cp dasa (Aug 10-Sept 3, 2002)?

>

> Since dasas started from 7th, take the 7th from dasa sign. So get

the results from Cn. Taking Cn as lagna, lagna lord is in 9th

(Pisces!) with 2nd lord Sun. Shows being with a saattwik guru and

learning astrology. I spent most of that time with Sanjay ji, at

Edison, NJ, Boston, MA and Ukiah, CA. But, the 10th lord Mars is in

badhaka sthana with 8th lords Saturn and Rahu. Doesn't it show

problem in career? Yes, indeed I lost my job on Aug 12.

>

> Not only Narayana dasa, but you can use other rasi dasas. For

example, compress Drigdasa and uyou'll see that Scorpio dasa

containing Ketu runs during Aug 18-Sept 5. Exactly during that time,

I was with Pt. Sanjay Rath. Under his influence, I became more

spiritual.

>

> * * *

>

> I'll give another example. I went for a job interview in the 3rd

week of June 2003. At that time, I was working from home for a

company in Atlanta and travelling a lot. I was looking for a good

opportunity in Boston.

>

> They told me they would get back in a couple of weeks as they were

interviewing others too. I made my daily TP charts for the next 2

weeks and narrowed down on July 1st chart. The data is 30th June

2003, 5:57:34 pm (EDT), co-ordinates of birth-place (time was

converted to EDT).

>

> In this chart, hora lord (ruler of the day) is Saturn. He is

yogakaraka - 9th and 10th lord. He has a close raja yoga with 5th

lord Mercury and lagna lord Venus too joins them. Saturn is at 9 deg

35 min in Ge and Mercury is at 9 deg 24 min in Ge. Invariably, days

with such raja yogas involving the ruler of the day end up giving

important events related to the houses involved. So I was quite

confident that an offer would come on that day. I further wanted to

narrow down and looked at Padanaathaamsa dasa. The calculations are

given below (times are displayed in EDT).

>

> Padanaathaamsa Dasa of D-9 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

>

> Maha Dasas:

>

> Sg: 2003-06-30 (17:57:34) - 2003-06-30 (18:22:06)

> Cp: 2003-06-30 (18:22:06) - 2003-06-30 (18:34:22)

> Aq: 2003-06-30 (18:34:22) - 2003-06-30 (18:58:54)

> Pi: 2003-06-30 (18:58:54) - 2003-06-30 (19:11:10)

> Ar: 2003-06-30 (19:11:10) - 2003-06-30 (21:13:40)

> Ta: 2003-06-30 (21:13:40) - 2003-06-30 (22:14:51)

> Ge: 2003-06-30 (22:14:51) - 2003-06-30 (23:28:12)

> Cn: 2003-06-30 (23:28:12) - 2003-06-30 (23:40:25)

> Le: 2003-06-30 (23:40:25) - 2003-07-01 (0:53:41)

> Vi: 2003-07-01 (0:53:41) - 2003-07-01 (2:43:27)

> Li: 2003-07-01 (2:43:27) - 2003-07-01 (5:09:33)

> Sc: 2003-07-01 (5:09:33) - 2003-07-01 (5:46:01)

> Sg: 2003-07-01 (5:46:01) - 2003-07-01 (7:47:30)

> Cp: 2003-07-01 (7:47:30) - 2003-07-01 (10:00:54)

> Aq: 2003-07-01 (10:00:54) - 2003-07-01 (12:01:58)

> Pi: 2003-07-01 (12:01:58) - 2003-07-01 (14:14:54)

> Ar: 2003-07-01 (14:14:54) - 2003-07-01 (14:39:03)

> Ta: 2003-07-01 (14:39:03) - 2003-07-01 (16:03:31)

> Ge: 2003-07-01 (16:03:31) - 2003-07-01 (17:15:50)

> Cn: 2003-07-01 (17:15:50) - 2003-07-01 (19:28:14)

> Le: 2003-07-01 (19:28:14) - 2003-07-01 (20:40:21)

> Vi: 2003-07-01 (20:40:21) - 2003-07-01 (21:16:23)

> Li: 2003-07-01 (21:16:23) - 2003-07-01 (21:16:23)

> Sc: 2003-07-01 (21:16:23) - 2003-07-01 (23:04:23)

>

> Out of the dasas that come during the working hours, Pisces was the

best. It contains GL; it is the 9th from AL and its lord is exalted

in AL. Moreover, it is aspected by all the planets in Ge. So I was

expecting an offer between 12:02 pm and 2:15 pm on July 1. It came at

2:10 pm!

>

> * * *

>

> Narayana dasa and its variants always apply, whether in natal chart

or in annual charts or in monthly charts or in daily charts.

>

> Let me give one final example. At the time of typing this mail and

another mail, let us see the Narayana dasa as per the daily chart.

The daily chart data is: 15th December 2003, 4:31 am (EDT). Narayana

dasa with dates & times converted to EDT is given below:

>

> Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

>

> Maha Dasas:

>

> Ar: 2003-12-15 (4:31:00) - 2003-12-15 (6:43:23)

> Ta: 2003-12-15 (6:43:23) - 2003-12-15 (8:07:28)

> Ge: 2003-12-15 (8:07:28) - 2003-12-15 (9:19:26)

> Cn: 2003-12-15 (9:19:26) - 2003-12-15 (11:31:09)

> Le: 2003-12-15 (11:31:09) - 2003-12-15 (13:18:41)

> Vi: 2003-12-15 (13:18:41) - 2003-12-15 (15:06:00)

> Li: 2003-12-15 (15:06:00) - 2003-12-15 (15:29:49)

> Sc: 2003-12-15 (15:29:49) - 2003-12-15 (16:17:26)

> Sg: 2003-12-15 (16:17:26) - 2003-12-15 (17:52:32)

> Cp: 2003-12-15 (17:52:32) - 2003-12-15 (19:15:36)

> Aq: 2003-12-15 (19:15:36) - 2003-12-15 (20:50:24)

> Pi: 2003-12-15 (20:50:24) - 2003-12-15 (22:13:12)

> Ar: 2003-12-15 (22:13:12) - 2003-12-15 (22:25:01)

> Ta: 2003-12-15 (22:25:01) - 2003-12-15 (23:24:04)

> Ge: 2003-12-15 (23:24:04) - 2003-12-16 (0:34:50)

> Cn: 2003-12-16 (0:34:50) - 2003-12-16 (0:46:38)

> Le: 2003-12-16 (0:46:38) - 2003-12-16 (1:21:58)

> Vi: 2003-12-16 (1:21:58) - 2003-12-16 (1:57:17)

> Li: 2003-12-16 (1:57:17) - 2003-12-16 (3:54:51)

> Sc: 2003-12-16 (3:54:51) - 2003-12-16 (5:28:43)

> Sg: 2003-12-16 (5:28:43) - 2003-12-16 (6:15:35)

> Cp: 2003-12-16 (6:15:35) - 2003-12-16 (7:14:06)

> Aq: 2003-12-16 (7:14:06) - 2003-12-16 (8:00:52)

> Pi: 2003-12-16 (8:00:52) - 2003-12-16 (8:59:17)

>

> From 12:46 am to 1:22 am, I ran Leo dasa. It was during this time

that I typed a couple of astrological mails. Cast the chart for the

given data and check Leo in the chart. Leo is the 5th house and it

contains Moon and Jupiter. So Narayana is with scholarship (5th)

right now. Bhoga, however, is in Scorpio, in the 10th from AL. So the

actual activity that takes place in a tangible way is some karma

(10th from AL) relating to occult knowledge (Scoprio). Taking Leo as

lagna, the 3rd lord Venus joins Mercury (karaka for writing and 3rd

lord from real lagna) in the 5th house. Thus, 1st, 3rd and 5th houses

are standing out. No wonder I wrote something.

>

> Of course, like I said, you can use Vimsottari dasa too. I am

running Mercury's compressed daily Vimsottari dasa right now (based

on the above data). Mercury is the karaka for writing, owns the 3rd

house in this daily chart and aspects the 3rd. No wonder his dasa

made me write.

>

> Good night now!

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Namaste Guru's and Learned Members,

> >

> > Can I use various TP D-Charts in conjuction with the annual

> > TP Various Narayana Dasa's for the analysis and prediction OR

> > I have to use only "Tithi Ashtottari Dasa" only.

> >

> > Thanks for your guidance.

> >

> > Regards

> > Raghunadha Rao

[Guest guest]

Hare Rama Krishna,

 

Namaste Narasimha Ji,

 

Thank you for confirming my manual calculation on the timing.

I can not wait to get your new version/upgrade.

 

How do you plan to distribute the upgrade by a download or

e-mail attachement or by mail. I am sure, you must have

already planned a download option from your website, if not

I would suggest that for easy distribution, so that we can

get it quickly instead of waiting from the mail option.

 

I do not whether you have considered my suggestions or not:

 

1) When I copy the Chart and paste into the word or Notepad

I do not get copied the Arudha Padas

 

2) Is it possible to show the Nakshatra Lord in the same place

where you have all the Longitue and Basic details are, a I

do quite a bit this information, still not memorized yet.

 

3) Is there any way to change the current Chart in view of the

7th from the dasa sign. In a situation like "Since dasas started from

7th, take the 7th from dasa sign."

 

4) Are the following Dasa's available in the new release:-

a) Paryaya Dasa

b) Kashinath Hora

c) Padanaathaamsa Dasa

 

I am sorry for asking many but that will be more helpful for me

and also some of the members I guess.

 

A Beginner

Raghunadha Rao

 

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

> Dear Raghunadh,

>

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Namaste Narasimha Ji,

> >

> > Thanks for the wonderful explanation of using TP charts

> > with my favourite Narayana Dasa. Now I will explore this

> > with confidence. I am still having few doubts and may I

> > request you to clarify so that I can go forward on my journey

> > in this TP Chart analysis method.

> >

> > 1) Take an example of my case, I was born in India and currently

> > living in Minneapolis USA and the time difference between my

> > birth place and current living place is about 11 Hrs and 30 Min.

> > Meaning my current living palce is behind.

> >

> > 2) So when I calculate the my Narayana dasa and pinpoint an

> > event to occurs say Dec 17th at 20:00 hrs as per JH 5, then

> > I have to do my manual math by subtracting 11 hrs and 30 min

> > and come to a conclusion that, the event will occur on my

> > local time at 7:30 AM on Dec 17th. Is this you are referring

>

> Yes, that is what you have to do.

>

> The JHora I use allows me to change the timezone. I tell JHora that

the native is now living in 6:00 west timezone and not in the 5:30

east timezone where (s)he was born. It will then subtract 11.5 hrs

from all the dates (dasa dates, antardasa dates, tithi pravesh chart

dates etc) and displays all calculations using the new timezone.

Please note that the chart or any data is not being changed, but only

the same point in time is being represented in a different timezone.

>

> When I start digging deep into daily TP charts and compressed daily

dasas, I implemented this feature (as I found it laborious to convert

so many times from the Indian time to the USA time). This feature

will be available in a new release to be made in 2 weeks.

>

> > in your example as EDT. if not what is the time EDT stands for

> > Hope you may be giving this time difference calculation in your

> > next version.

> >

> > 3) Also I have see the Hora Lagna is different than what I am

> > getting. I could see the differnce because, I am using Sunrise

> > Option 3 and You are using Sunrise Option-1. Is that correct.

>

> Of course, yes.

>

> > Please take few seconds to give a small answer, so that I can

> > go forward, otherwise I am stuck again here.

> >

> > Thanks for examples and also I have listened to you CD' on TP

> > and hence my attempt to explore in detail on this wondeful

> > System.

>

> The beauty of this system is that you can apply classical

principles confidently. Unlike the natal chart that covers one's

entire life (which can be too long with too many changes in one's

nature, attitude and fortune), TP charts cover just one year or month

or day. Because of this narrow focus, classical principles work in a

straight-forward way, better than even in natal charts!

>

> Sometimes I am amused when I listen to people justifying short-term

things based on a natal chart. When justifying something, people

forget something else. For example, somebody said Howard Dean's chart

is too weak to become a President, because the 5th lord of Power,

Venus, is debilitated. I mean, for God's sake, Governor is also a

powerful position and the guy was a Governor! Though this is a

trivial example, I have seen more complicated variants of such narrow

focus logic being used by even very good astrologers. Thus, we

sometimes focus on one's nature and fortune from a narrow short-term

perspective and misjudge what different planets show.

>

> The truth is - nreither one's nature and nor one's fortune is

static. They are both dynamic. Thus, an accurate assessment of a

natal chart invariably involves assessment of dasas/transits too.

And, most of us are not that good in dasas. There are hundreds of

dasas and we understand only 2 or 3 dasas and that too not very well.

Invariably, we make mistakes and often come up with wrong reasons for

things.

>

> On the other hand, TP charts are focussed on small periods, during

which one's nature and fortune are pretty much static. Thus, it is

easier to judge the charts. The principles work more smoothly. In

fact, I straightened out a lot of my basics with the help of daily

and monthly charts! They don't cheat me, while the natal charts are

certainly capable of cheating.

>

> I hope the essence, and spirit, of what I am saying are both

understood, though what I am saying does not sound nice. :-)

>

> > Regards

> > Raghunadha Rao

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

 

Paryaaya dasa is already there. Check "Rasi Dasas" section more

carefully. Kashinatha Hora and Padanaathaamsa dasa will be there in

the next release.

 

But you can find Padanaathaamsa dasa from Narayana dasa even today,

even though it takes a little effort. You'll have to manually find

the starting sign and enter it in the options. I have given

elaborate options in Narayana dasa. A beginner need not change the

options and leave everything to software, while one who knows what

he's doing can use it for many purposes and completely override many

decisions of the software.

 

I have noted other requests.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

> Hare Rama Krishna,

>

> Namaste Narasimha Ji,

>

> Thank you for confirming my manual calculation on the timing.

> I can not wait to get your new version/upgrade.

>

> How do you plan to distribute the upgrade by a download or

> e-mail attachement or by mail. I am sure, you must have

> already planned a download option from your website, if not

> I would suggest that for easy distribution, so that we can

> get it quickly instead of waiting from the mail option.

>

> I do not whether you have considered my suggestions or not:

>

> 1) When I copy the Chart and paste into the word or Notepad

> I do not get copied the Arudha Padas

>

> 2) Is it possible to show the Nakshatra Lord in the same place

> where you have all the Longitue and Basic details are, a I

> do quite a bit this information, still not memorized yet.

>

> 3) Is there any way to change the current Chart in view of the

> 7th from the dasa sign. In a situation like "Since dasas started

from

> 7th, take the 7th from dasa sign."

>

> 4) Are the following Dasa's available in the new release:-

> a) Paryaya Dasa

> b) Kashinath Hora

> c) Padanaathaamsa Dasa

>

> I am sorry for asking many but that will be more helpful for me

> and also some of the members I guess.

>

> A Beginner

> Raghunadha Rao

[Guest guest]

Hare Rama Krishna,

 

Namaste Narasimha Ji,

 

Thanks for the quick reply. Yes you are correct Paryaaya dasa

is there, it is my mistake, I have not seen carefully.

 

I and looking forward for the next release soon.

 

Regards

Raghunadha Rao

 

vedic astrology, pvr@c... wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> Paryaaya dasa is already there. Check "Rasi Dasas" section more

> carefully. Kashinatha Hora and Padanaathaamsa dasa will be there in

> the next release.

>

> But you can find Padanaathaamsa dasa from Narayana dasa even today,

> even though it takes a little effort. You'll have to manually find

> the starting sign and enter it in the options. I have given

> elaborate options in Narayana dasa. A beginner need not change the

> options and leave everything to software, while one who knows what

> he's doing can use it for many purposes and completely override

many

> decisions of the software.

>

> I have noted other requests.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> > Hare Rama Krishna,

> >

> > Namaste Narasimha Ji,

> >

> > Thank you for confirming my manual calculation on the timing.

> > I can not wait to get your new version/upgrade.

> >

> > How do you plan to distribute the upgrade by a download or

> > e-mail attachement or by mail. I am sure, you must have

> > already planned a download option from your website, if not

> > I would suggest that for easy distribution, so that we can

> > get it quickly instead of waiting from the mail option.

> >

> > I do not whether you have considered my suggestions or not:

> >

> > 1) When I copy the Chart and paste into the word or Notepad

> > I do not get copied the Arudha Padas

> >

> > 2) Is it possible to show the Nakshatra Lord in the same place

> > where you have all the Longitue and Basic details are, a I

> > do quite a bit this information, still not memorized yet.

> >

> > 3) Is there any way to change the current Chart in view of the

> > 7th from the dasa sign. In a situation like "Since dasas started

> from

> > 7th, take the 7th from dasa sign."

> >

> > 4) Are the following Dasa's available in the new release:-

> > a) Paryaya Dasa

> > b) Kashinath Hora

> > c) Padanaathaamsa Dasa

> >

> > I am sorry for asking many but that will be more helpful for me

> > and also some of the members I guess.

> >

> > A Beginner

> > Raghunadha Rao