Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Saturn has some weird transits beginning September 5, 2004. During this time period, Saturn moves back into Cancer from GEMINI, the sign were George Bush was when Bush was born almost 60 years ago. This transit into Cancer happens at a crucial time. America will be steeped in the next race for the President. Undoubtedly this is a very favorable movement for Bush. This is not the regular pattern of movement for Saturn. It is as though Saturn is making this transit into Cancer just for the sake of Bush. Interesting enough, Saturn transits back into Gemini on January 13, 2005. Evidently by this time the election will have been over. It is possible that Saturn could re-elect Bush to serve a 2nd term???? Out of the 19 years of the Saturn Dasa, Bush still has 2 1/2 more years of Saturn. His Saturn period ends on May 15th of 2006. --Sanjay Aggarwal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 Note to all: Saturn is the worst malefic for cancer lagna- for Bush, it's in Lagna, +MKS. SanjayA,and all, why do you think Sa MD and Sa return /to Lagna/are "very favorable movement for Bush"-from astrological point of view? Apart from astrology he's been elected, and most likely will be reelected president, by default- if not for other reasons- that we know without astrology. What's wrong and what is right here- TOB, what we know about Sa as maraka, in MKS...The fact is that it's been Sa MD in which he achieved to become and be re-elected for the position of the most powerful person in the world./as if he were Ta lagna-even than MKS should be spoiling the effect/. So it MUST be in rashi rashi chart, if so major as it is Regards, Anna vedic astrology, "sanjaytechnology" <sanjaytechnology> wrote: > Saturn has some weird transits beginning September 5, 2004. During > this time period, Saturn moves back into Cancer from GEMINI, the > sign were George Bush was when Bush was born almost 60 years ago. > This transit into Cancer happens at a crucial time. America will be > steeped in the next race for the President. Undoubtedly this is a > very favorable movement for Bush. This is not the regular pattern of > movement for Saturn. It is as though Saturn is making this transit > into Cancer just for the sake of Bush. Interesting enough, Saturn > transits back into Gemini on January 13, 2005. Evidently by this > time the election will have been over. It is possible that Saturn > could re-elect Bush to serve a 2nd term???? Out of the 19 years of > the Saturn Dasa, Bush still has 2 1/2 more years of Saturn. His > Saturn period ends on May 15th of 2006. > > --Sanjay Aggarwal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 Dear Sanjay and members, Namaskar, Well Saturn is not known for doing any special favours for anyone… it just ensures victory for those on righteous and truthful path and it spends about one year in every nakshtara that includes forward and retrograde movements throughout its 29/30 year cycle through the zodiac. I found some interesting things, based only on the Great Sage Parasara's predictions(applied them verbatim) and transit of Saturn. I cannot say clearly whether he will win or not, but here are my humble thoughts, without any prejudice and based on astrology only (hope the chart is correct one): GEORGE BUSH, PRESIDENT OF USA CHART: Number of Rekhas in 8th place from Saturn, in the Ashtakavarga of Saturn = 3 Total Shodhya Pinda of Saturn's Ashtakavarga = 179 Totak Shodhta Pinda multiplied by number of rekhas = 179 X 3 = 537 Nakshtara Equivalent to the remainder on counting from Aswini and its trinal Nakshtaras = 537/27 = 24 i.e 24th Nakshatra frm Ashwini , which is Satabhisak( 6AQ40 to 20Aq00) and the 10th and 19th Nashatras from Satabhisak Nakshataras are Aardra Nakshatra(6GE40 to 20GE00) and Swati Nakshtara (6Li40 to 20Li00). Transit of Saturn through these Nakshtaras(Satabhisak, Aardra and Swati) causes tremendous stress and tensions for the Prez. TRANSIT through Aardra Nakshatra is however mixed one, on one side it causes tremendous tensions and stress and on the other side its still considered fortunate financially (personal finances) since ardara nakshatra is the 20th star sampath tara from Chitra Nakstara(his janama nakshatra)..The dates are from 6/3/03 to 6/15/2004 : Obviously economy and war against terrrorism, unemployment and other problems can cause stress and his presidency is getting linked to all these factors on a daily basis now(rather say success/failure can be linked to tackling all these problems)… His Janama Nakshatara is Chitra and the transit of Saturn through through 21st star(punar vasu) is also harmful: PUNARVASU: 23Ge00 to 3Cn20( 6/15/2004 to 6/23/05 ( retrograde from 11/17/2004 to 3/22/05) There will be financial problems during this period. Interestingly when Saturn passes through Cancer(09/05/2004 onwards until Jan2005), he has maximum number of rekhas(5) in the ashtakavarga of Saturn and can give a boost to his career(I agree with Mr Sanjay here). Everyone knows that all US Preidents and the Ex-Presidents have a great career, soon after leaving the presidency. Looks like his campaign may be hit financially(obviously he cannot promise more tax cuts and has to focus on economy finally) but due to no organized strong opposition and tremendous faith in his general leadership(all he needs is 50% votes)he is likely to succeed,..Never mind the hard fact that millions of people(5 to 9 million) are looking for jobs and other unemployment/employment and economy related problems are continuing in the world, he may still appeal to the voters somehow and transit saturn (in his personal case) may help(not sure)…unless and until he encounters a really strong candidate with great stars, he will most likely be a winner. The primary reason(behind my analysis) being that: Looking back in time, Saturn has provided a tremendous boost to him due to its favourable transits and especially during the Saturn/Rahu period. Right form his election time until the day he was declared President by the Supreme Court(11/05/2000 to 12/12/2000), Saturn was continuing its retrograde transit through Taurus form 4° 43' 46˜ TAURUS to 1° 49' 36˜ TAURUS: Normally retrograde transits are considered harmful as they increase ambitions and do not fructify , but in his case KRITTIKA 26AR40 TO 10 TA00 is Mitra Tara(Friend Star) from 5/11/2000 to 5/21/2001 ensures victory, otherwise Saturn/Mars would normally indicate huge tensions since Mars is placed in 2nd house from Saturn, the Lord of Mahadasa. But since Mahadasa Lord is so favourable, so he sails through. This is the only logic sofar. Later in Saturn/Rahu, Sage parasara states, " during this period, there will be expenditure of wealth and tremendous tensions…but at angle or in the 11th from Mahadasa Lord, there will be gain of wealth and acquisitions of house… if Rahu is posited in Aries, virgo, Cancer, Taurus, Pisces, Sagittraius or leo, its antardasa will bring luxuries extended to elephants…." No wonder all these things happened simultaneously in his life and he reached the white house(there is no bigger house than that… the Great Sage Parasara's predictions, even if applied verbatim hold TRUE).. His Rahu is in Taurus and in 11th from natal Saturn. Also transit of Saturn ROHINI 10TA00 TO 23TA20 is Param Mitra Tara(Great Friend Star) from 5/21/2001 to 5/30/2002 ensures victory(getting worldwide support against terrorism). So he had two continuous favourable transits of Saturn from May 2000 to May 2002. ….Then there was a mixed transit of Saturn while it passed through MRIGASARA 23TA20 TO 6GE40 (19th from Janama Nakshatra) from May 2002 to May 2003…He was victorious in Iraq War but had to pay a heavy price as all wars demand and now we all know Saturn is passing through Aardara Nakshtara….People and other astrologers said all types of negative things about him and his administration, but he got the huge continuous support of all major nations including India and even the Arab nations choose to remain silent mysteriously. Obviously Saturn was at work here in Saturn/Rahu period…Saturn supports those who are on RIGHTEOUS path. The $64,000 question is: Will he get the same support from Saturn, when Saturn reaches PUNARVASU: 23Ge00 to 3Cn20( 6/15/2004 to 6/23/05 ( retrograde from 11/17/2004 to 3/22/05)?…The future will tell everything soon since there are no two choices/decisions when Saturn is at work! He has now reached Saturn/Jupiter, which is sobering up period supposedly and there are yet still more riches for him. He is guaranteed a great financial package in any case. So Saturn has always supported him through its last three/four long transits, through various nakshtaras. So there is no need to be afraid of Saturn, if one is on the right path.(One can also say otherwise, that he is/was the Saturn's designated /chosen leader to get the Saturn's jobs done on a worldwide basis.) Thanks and Regards RMK -- These calculations were made using the free "Jagannatha Hora Lite" software, which can be downloaded from the website of its author P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (www.VedicAstrologer.org) or from the website of Sri Jagannath Centre (www.SriJagannath.org). -- GEORGE BUSH Natal Chart July 6, 1946 Time: 7:26:00 am Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 72 W 55' 00", 41 N 18' 00" Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Vyaya - Ashadha Tithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (25.65% left) Weekday: Saturday (Sa) Nakshatra: Chitra (Ma) (97.99% left) Yoga: Siva (Me) Karana: Bava (Su) Hora Lord: Jupiter (5 min sign: Aq) Mahakala Hora: Jupiter (5 min sign: Le) Kaala Lord: Moon (Mahakala: Saturn) Sunrise: 5:28:30 am Sunset: 8:23:27 pm Janma Ghatis: 4.8961 Ayanamsa: 23-06-19.15 Sidereal Time: 1:29:42 Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Lagna 14 Cn 00' 39.49" Push 4 Cn Sc Sun - MK 20 Ge 40' 44.04" Puna 1 Ge Ar Moon - BK 23 Vi 36' 03.06" Chit 1 Vi Le Mars - PK 16 Le 12' 29.37" PPha 1 Le Le Mercury - PiK 16 Cn 43' 31.33" Asre 1 Cn Sg Jupiter - AmK 25 Vi 02' 25.98" Chit 1 Vi Le Venus - AK 28 Cn 23' 48.11" Asre 4 Cn Pi Saturn - DK 3 Cn 24' 24.03" Push 1 Cn Le Rahu - GK 26 Ta 29' 39.42" Mrig 1 Ta Le Ketu 26 Sc 29' 39.42" Jye 3 Sc Aq Maandi 1 Cn 48' 57.80" Puna 4 Cn Cn Gulika 20 Ge 20' 15.01" Puna 1 Ge Ar Bhava Lagna 19 Cn 58' 40.43" Asre 1 Cn Sg Hora Lagna 19 Le 21' 16.90" PPha 2 Le Vi Ghati Lagna 17 Sc 29' 06.30" Jye 1 Sc Sg Vighati Lagna 8 Aq 08' 13.29" Sata 1 Aq Sg Varnada Lagna 3 Sg 21' 56.39" Mool 2 Sg Ta Sree Lagna 21 Cn 14' 02.15" Asre 2 Cn Cp Dhooma 4 Sc 00' 44.04" Anu 1 Sc Le Vyatipata 25 Le 59' 15.96" PPha 4 Le Sc Parivesha 25 Aq 59' 15.96" PBha 2 Aq Ta Indra Chapa 4 Ta 00' 44.04" Krit 3 Ta Aq Upaketu 20 Ta 40' 44.04" Rohi 4 Ta Cn Kaala 15 Le 41' 49.50" PPha 1 Le Le Mrityu 29 Vi 50' 48.60" Chit 2 Vi Vi Artha Prahara 21 Li 41' 51.17" Visa 1 Li Ar Yama Ghantaka 13 Sc 46' 23.59" Anu 4 Sc Sc Rasi +--------------+ | \ HL / \ Gk / | | \ Ma / \ Su / | | \ / \ / | | \ / Me \ / | | \ / \ / | |Mo Ju x Sa As Md x Ra | | / \ / \ | | / \ Ve / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 4 / \ | | / \ / \ | | x | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |AL \ / \ / | |Ke GL x x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | +--------------+ Navamsa +--------------+ | \ GL / \ / | | \ Me / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | x As x HL | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / AL \ 8 / Ma \ | | / \ / \ | | Ke x Sa Mo Ra | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ Ju / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ve x x Md | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Su \ / \ | | / Gk \ / \ | +--------------+ Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Mar Mar 1946-05-16 Rah 1946-10-12 Jup 1947-10-30 Sat 1948-10-05 Mer 1949-11-14 Ket 1950-11-11 Ven 1951-04-09 Sun 1952-06-08 Moo 1952-10-14 Rah Rah 1953-05-15 Jup 1956-01-26 Sat 1958-06-21 Mer 1961-04-27 Ket 1963-11-14 Ven 1964-12-02 Sun 1967-12-02 Moo 1968-10-26 Mar 1970-04-27 Jup Jup 1971-05-16 Sat 1973-07-03 Mer 1976-01-14 Ket 1978-04-21 Ven 1979-03-28 Sun 1981-11-26 Moo 1982-09-14 Mar 1984-01-14 Rah 1984-12-20 Sat Sat 1987-05-15 Mer 1990-05-18 Ket 1993-01-25 Ven 1994-03-06 Sun 1997-05-06 Moo 1998-04-18 Mar 1999-11-17 Rah 2000-12-26 Jup 2003-11-02 Mer Mer 2006-05-15 Ket 2008-10-11 Ven 2009-10-08 Sun 2012-08-08 Moo 2013-06-14 Mar 2014-11-14 Rah 2015-11-11 Jup 2018-05-30 Sat 2020-09-04 Ket Ket 2023-05-15 Ven 2023-10-11 Sun 2024-12-10 Moo 2025-04-17 Mar 2025-11-16 Rah 2026-04-14 Jup 2027-05-03 Sat 2028-04-08 Mer 2029-05-18 Ven Ven 2030-05-15 Sun 2033-09-13 Moo 2034-09-14 Mar 2036-05-14 Rah 2037-07-14 Jup 2040-07-14 Sat 2043-03-15 Mer 2046-05-15 Ket 2049-03-15 Sun Sun 2050-05-15 Moo 2050-09-01 Mar 2051-03-03 Rah 2051-07-09 Jup 2052-06-01 Sat 2053-03-21 Mer 2054-03-03 Ket 2055-01-07 Ven 2055-05-15 Moo Moo 2056-05-14 Mar 2057-03-15 Rah 2057-10-14 Jup 2059-04-14 Sat 2060-08-13 Mer 2062-03-15 Ket 2063-08-14 Ven 2064-03-14 Sun 2065-11-13 vedic astrology, "sanjaytechnology" <sanjaytechnology> wrote: > Saturn has some weird transits beginning September 5, 2004. During > this time period, Saturn moves back into Cancer from GEMINI, the > sign were George Bush was when Bush was born almost 60 years ago. > This transit into Cancer happens at a crucial time. America will be > steeped in the next race for the President. Undoubtedly this is a > very favorable movement for Bush. This is not the regular pattern of > movement for Saturn. It is as though Saturn is making this transit > into Cancer just for the sake of Bush. Interesting enough, Saturn > transits back into Gemini on January 13, 2005. Evidently by this > time the election will have been over. It is possible that Saturn > could re-elect Bush to serve a 2nd term???? Out of the 19 years of > the Saturn Dasa, Bush still has 2 1/2 more years of Saturn. His > Saturn period ends on May 15th of 2006. > > --Sanjay Aggarwal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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