Worshipping the AK-Revised Post (Anna)

August 31, 2003

I think you didn't get the right point for me, I am sorry for writing in harry,

but sometimes, if I don't type fast enough, message dissapers.

It is highly desirable TO STRENGHTEN LAGNESH. However it's NO-NO to strenghten

AK, for AK always brings sufferings as a sure mean for purifications, leading

to moksa. We don't want to increase suffering, do we?

If AK happens to be lagna Lord, then it's very very trying time for a native in

this MD. Sanjay explained that so well, that you wouldn't even ask the question

about that! I suggest that you read that too. Sanjay says, that Lagna Lord

provides protection when dasa of AK comes- if AK is Lagnesh, THERE IS NO

PROTECTION!

and the person, in my 'free interpretation' will be either the Saint-renouncing

the world, or criminal /angel or devil/. I am lucky, I've been 9 years in Moon

AK+Lagnesh period and not either of this /Please wait, it's over when it's

over!/

I was feeling so 'defeated' in one period of Moon MD/Lagnesh and AK, don't forget/

I was wearing the pearls. 3 eminent astrologers said PEARL- I was so exhausted,

would try anything /unless it's downright obviously harmful/ I was not feeling

Ok about pearls and couldn't see any effect, which combined with lack of

attraction to that stone, made me quit with pearls, very quickly.

Nothing spectacular.

Later I learnt from Sanjay what that was all about.

Had to say to myself 'I told you!!' never ignore what comes from 'within', and I

do make mistakes, always when I ignore my 'smart subtle visceral faculties'.

I have no doubt under these circ. Sanjay's opinion proved its validity.

Thanks for Yoy and Abundance, I would appreciate both!

Best wishes,

Anna

Sunil John <suniljohn (AT) lycos (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Anna,

If permitted can i intervene and request you if it is not too private to share

your experiences revolving around the after-effects of wearing of Pearl ( your

AK stone)

1. Was there some sort of loss or significations revolving the houses involved

in ur chart after wearing of the stone.

2. What was the duration of the period of you wearing the stone.

To Gurus and List members

1. Why is the stone of the lagnesh not adviced, I was under the impression that

it would strengthen the whole chart.

Would be grateful for the reply

Joy and Abundance

Sunil John

Mumbai

PS:Hope this reaches the list, since has been acting up whole day.

Dear Sudharsan,

Yes it brings suffering inevitably- we certainly don't like to enchance that-

as I said in my post.

What the role of the soul AK desires, see posts bellow,

as Partha mentioned, we'll wait for somebody to clerify.

I experienced that myself- My Ak is Moon, and I was suggested to wear pearls /or

weaker sec. stone, moon tone/, by experienced astrologers!!! and i did- but

didn't like it, and decided to listen 'inner voice'. Than I learnt here with

SJC, that AK stone IS big NO_NO- It happened that my AK is Lagnesh, so double

the trouble even without the stone. Or did I miss opportunity to attain moksa?

Anna

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August 31, 2003

Dear Sunil,

You might have seen my hand wearing Blue Saphire which I was wearing from 1988

and after that only I started getting prosperity in my life and it has helped

me in very difficult times.My Lagna is Makara and its Lord Shani is retrograde

in Kanya in 9th house.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Sunil John <suniljohn (AT) lycos (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Anna,

If permitted can i intervene and request you if it is not too private to share

your experiences revolving around the after-effects of wearing of Pearl ( your

AK stone)

1. Was there some sort of loss or significations revolving the houses involved

in ur chart after wearing of the stone.

2. What was the duration of the period of you wearing the stone.

To Gurus and List members

1. Why is the stone of the lagnesh not adviced, I was under the impression that

it would strengthen the whole chart.

Would be grateful for the reply

Joy and Abundance

Sunil John

Mumbai

PS:Hope this reaches the list, since has been acting up whole day.

Dear Sudharsan,

Yes it brings suffering inevitably- we certainly don't like to enchance that-

as I said in my post.

What the role of the soul AK desires, see posts bellow,

as Partha mentioned, we'll wait for somebody to clerify.

I experienced that myself- My Ak is Moon, and I was suggested to wear pearls /or

weaker sec. stone, moon tone/, by experienced astrologers!!! and i did- but

didn't like it, and decided to listen 'inner voice'. Than I learnt here with

SJC, that AK stone IS big NO_NO- It happened that my AK is Lagnesh, so double

the trouble even without the stone. Or did I miss opportunity to attain moksa?

Anna

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August 31, 2003

Namaste!!!!!!!

Just in curiosity i am asking this.Kindly tell us your birth details.

Thanks

raji

Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

OM NAMO NARAYANAYA

Dear Sunil,

You might have seen my hand wearing Blue Saphire which I was wearing from 1988

and after that only I started getting prosperity in my life and it has helped

me in very difficult times.My Lagna is Makara and its Lord Shani is retrograde

in Kanya in 9th house.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Sunil John <suniljohn (AT) lycos (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Anna,

If permitted can i intervene and request you if it is not too private to share

your experiences revolving around the after-effects of wearing of Pearl ( your

AK stone)

1. Was there some sort of loss or significations revolving the houses involved

in ur chart after wearing of the stone.

2. What was the duration of the period of you wearing the stone.

To Gurus and List members

1. Why is the stone of the lagnesh not adviced, I was under the impression that

it would strengthen the whole chart.

Would be grateful for the reply

Joy and Abundance

Sunil John

Mumbai

PS:Hope this reaches the list, since has been acting up whole day.

Dear Sudharsan,

Yes it brings suffering inevitably- we certainly don't like to enchance that-

as I said in my post.

What the role of the soul AK desires, see posts bellow,

as Partha mentioned, we'll wait for somebody to clerify.

I experienced that myself- My Ak is Moon, and I was suggested to wear pearls /or

weaker sec. stone, moon tone/, by experienced astrologers!!! and i did- but

didn't like it, and decided to listen 'inner voice'. Than I learnt here with

SJC, that AK stone IS big NO_NO- It happened that my AK is Lagnesh, so double

the trouble even without the stone. Or did I miss opportunity to attain moksa?

Anna

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August 31, 2003

Dear Ramadas,

I lost your /physical/ post but not the question I wanted to ask. You said that

you wear Sapphire for SaturnR, Lagna Lord in 9th /seems good to me/. You said

that on this thread where AK primarily, and lagnesh secondary, if aplicable, is

in focus. So I would ask you to clarify if Sa is also AK for your chart, or just

Lagnesh. For strenghtening AK seems to be 'risky endeavour' as I've seen that,

at least.

Part TWO:

I read all your posts Ramadas, and have benefited a lot from your consistent

participation and sharing. I appreciate your efforts a lot.

However, I have a bad habit, I want to understand what I read

I don't know Sanskrit, neither do I understand some expressions that Hindu

people do. It would be really great if you would translate for us non-hindu

people, who feel

frustrated and side-lined on that basis, as I do myself /particularly the former!/

I understand that those who learnt some Sanskrit, are proud of it, but that

should go with translation, unless they don't care if it's understood or not.

It's not a big problem,

I guess, just translation in the brackets, or if diffucult to translate, as I've seen with

Chandrashekhar post, short descriptive statement will suffice.

Yes, language can serve us better.

Thanks Ramadas,

Anna

AR <bona_mente > wrote:

Dear Sunil,

I think you didn't get the right point for me, I am sorry for writing in harry,

but sometimes, if I don't type fast enough, message dissapers.

It is highly desirable TO STRENGHTEN LAGNESH. However it's NO-NO to strenghten

AK, for AK always brings sufferings as a sure mean for purifications, leading

to moksa. We don't want to increase suffering, do we?

If AK happens to be lagna Lord, then it's very very trying time for a native in

this MD. Sanjay explained that so well, that you wouldn't even ask the question

about that! I suggest that you read that too. Sanjay says, that Lagna Lord

provides protection when dasa of AK comes- if AK is Lagnesh, THERE IS NO

PROTECTION!

and the person, in my 'free interpretation' will be either the Saint-renouncing

the world, or criminal /angel or devil/. I am lucky, I've been 9 years in Moon

AK+Lagnesh period and not either of this /Please wait, it's over when it's

over!/

I was feeling so 'defeated' in one period of Moon MD/Lagnesh and AK, don't forget/

I was wearing the pearls. 3 eminent astrologers said PEARL- I was so exhausted,

would try anything /unless it's downright obviously harmful/ I was not feeling

Ok about pearls and couldn't see any effect, which combined with lack of

attraction to that stone, made me quit with pearls, very quickly.

Nothing spectacular.

Later I learnt from Sanjay what that was all about.

Had to say to myself 'I told you!!' never ignore what comes from 'within', and I

do make mistakes, always when I ignore my 'smart subtle visceral faculties'.

I have no doubt under these circ. Sanjay's opinion proved its validity.

Thanks for Yoy and Abundance, I would appreciate both!

Best wishes,

Anna

Sunil John <suniljohn (AT) lycos (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Anna,

If permitted can i intervene and request you if it is not too private to share

your experiences revolving around the after-effects of wearing of Pearl ( your

AK stone)

1. Was there some sort of loss or significations revolving the houses involved

in ur chart after wearing of the stone.

2. What was the duration of the period of you wearing the stone.

To Gurus and List members

1. Why is the stone of the lagnesh not adviced, I was under the impression that

it would strengthen the whole chart.

Would be grateful for the reply

Joy and Abundance

Sunil John

Mumbai

PS:Hope this reaches the list, since has been acting up whole day.

Dear Sudharsan,

Yes it brings suffering inevitably- we certainly don't like to enchance that-

as I said in my post.

What the role of the soul AK desires, see posts bellow,

as Partha mentioned, we'll wait for somebody to clerify.

I experienced that myself- My Ak is Moon, and I was suggested to wear pearls /or

weaker sec. stone, moon tone/, by experienced astrologers!!! and i did- but

didn't like it, and decided to listen 'inner voice'. Than I learnt here with

SJC, that AK stone IS big NO_NO- It happened that my AK is Lagnesh, so double

the trouble even without the stone. Or did I miss opportunity to attain moksa?

Anna

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August 31, 2003

Dear Hari,

Here it is. E-mail messages I will paste here,

you can ask Partha further. It would be good if we could get more information.

Maybe it's in files already?

Before I do that, I haven't seen my message sent to Rajeshwari- if you didn't

receive my response Rajeshwari, I am sorry, I clicked at least ten times, loll

All the best for both of you,

Rajeswari and Hari,

Anna

Quote:

Dear Partha> > Thanks for the correction.> > I was wondering where I had read

about it. It wasonly after I posted > it, did I recollect that Sanjay ji had

mentioned itat Hyderabad.> > Sincerely> R. Kasthuri Rangan> > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "V.parthasarathy" > <partvinu5> wrote:> >

Om Namah SHivaya> > > > Dear kasturi> > You wrote> > > > > I remember having

read in the archives, that ifthe AK planet is > in > > > the 1st pada, it shows

the soul longing forartha in this janma. > AK > > > in the 2nd pada indicates

the soul's longing fordharma, 3rd pada > > > indicates soul's longing for kaama

and 4th padafor moksha.> > > > > > > 1st

pada-dharma> > 2nd pada-artha> > 3rd pada-kama> > 4th pada-moksha> > > >

Regards> > partha> > om tat sat> > > > onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote:

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Anna,Feeling frustrated as is acting up once

again!! If you have received my message twice already, then I apologize in

advance.Could you please resend the teachings of Sanjay on this topic to me? My

AK and lagna lord is Ma and AK MD is currently on!regardsHari--- In

vedic astrology, AR wrote:> > Dear Sunil,> >> If AK happens to

be lagna Lord, then it's very very trying time for a native in this MD. Sanjay

explained that so well, that you wouldn't even ask the question about that! I

suggest that you read that too. Sanjay says, that Lagna Lord provides

protection when dasa of AK comes- if AK is Lagnesh, THERE IS NO

PROTECTION!onlyhari <onlyhari >

wrote:

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Anna,I have had to type this twice. acting

up once again!> If AK happens to be lagna Lord, then it's very very trying

time >for a native in this MD. Sanjay explained that so well, that you

>wouldn't even ask the question about that! I suggest that you read > that too.

If you have the original teachings by Sanjay on this topic, could you please

resend the same(message # is also fine) or post to me personally?thanks in

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Dear Rao and Raji,

As Rao wrote this message ,you may find it difficult to find the message.Now

after checking my chart,what analysis you want to make ?

My birth particulars are as follows with Birth time corrected :

23-03-1952,03-34-35 AM ,Long. 74E 53' Lat.: 12 N 52'

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Rao Nemani <raonemani > wrote:

Dear Raji,Guru Ji, with your permission, I am answering to Raji here.Raji: you

may remember, I have done this exercise some time ago and compiled all of our

SJC-Guru's birth details and placed a file called"SJC Guru's Birth Details.xls"

in our VA-File Section.Please have a look at that for the birth details of Guru

Ji.See this is the purpose of my effort, which I did some time

ago.RegardsRaovedic astrology, Rajeswari Shankar

<rajeswarishankar> wrote:> Dear Ramadas JI> > Namaste!!!!!!!> > Just in

curiosity i am asking this.Kindly tell us your birth details.> > Thanks> raji>

> > > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> OM NAMO NARAYANAYA> Dear Sunil,>

You might have seen my hand wearing Blue Saphire which I was wearing from 1988

and after that only I started getting prosperity in my life and it has helped

me in very difficult times.My Lagna is Makara and its Lord Shani is retrograde

in Kanya in 9th house.> I hope this helps you.> With Sri Narayana Nama

Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > Sunil John <suniljohn@l...> wrote:>

table.mail_content {DISPLAY: block}Dear Anna,> > If permitted can i intervene

and request you if it is not too private to share your experiences revolving

around the after-effects of wearing of Pearl ( your AK stone)> > 1. Was there

some sort of loss or significations revolving the houses involved in ur chart

after wearing of the stone.> > 2. What was the duration of the period of you

wearing the stone.> > To Gurus and List members> > 1. Why is the

stone of the lagnesh not adviced, I was under the impression that it would

strengthen the whole chart.> > Would be grateful for the reply> > Joy and

Abundance> > Sunil John> Mumbai> > PS:Hope this reaches the list, since

has been acting up whole day.> > > > > Dear Sudharsan,> Yes it brings

suffering inevitably- we certainly don't like to enchance that- > as I said in

my post.> > What the role of the soul AK desires, see posts bellow,> as Partha

mentioned, we'll wait for somebody to clerify.> > I experienced that myself- My

Ak is Moon, and I was suggested to wear pearls /or weaker sec. stone, moon

tone/, by experienced astrologers!!! and i did- but didn't like it, and decided

to listen 'inner voice'. Than I learnt here with SJC, that AK stone IS

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Dear Anna,

Saturn is just my Lagna Lord and not Chara AK.Because Sunil asked why Lagna Lord

Gem is not recommended and I gave my reply to him.

Normally wherever I give Sanskrit text,I am trying to decode it.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.AR <bona_mente > wrote:

Dear Ramadas,

I lost your /physical/ post but not the question I wanted to ask. You said that

you wear Sapphire for SaturnR, Lagna Lord in 9th /seems good to me/. You said

that on this thread where AK primarily, and lagnesh secondary, if aplicable, is

in focus. So I would ask you to clarify if Sa is also AK for your chart, or just

Lagnesh. For strenghtening AK seems to be 'risky endeavour' as I've seen that,

at least.

Part TWO:

I read all your posts Ramadas, and have benefited a lot from your consistent

participation and sharing. I appreciate your efforts a lot.

However, I have a bad habit, I want to understand what I read

I don't know Sanskrit, neither do I understand some expressions that Hindu

people do. It would be really great if you would translate for us non-hindu

people, who feel

frustrated and side-lined on that basis, as I do myself /particularly the former!/

I understand that those who learnt some Sanskrit, are proud of it, but that

should go with translation, unless they don't care if it's understood or not.

It's not a big problem,

I guess, just translation in the brackets, or if diffucult to translate, as I've seen with

Chandrashekhar post, short descriptive statement will suffice.

Yes, language can serve us better.

Thanks Ramadas,

Anna

AR <bona_mente > wrote:

Dear Sunil,

I think you didn't get the right point for me, I am sorry for writing in harry,

but sometimes, if I don't type fast enough, message dissapers.

It is highly desirable TO STRENGHTEN LAGNESH. However it's NO-NO to strenghten

AK, for AK always brings sufferings as a sure mean for purifications, leading

to moksa. We don't want to increase suffering, do we?

If AK happens to be lagna Lord, then it's very very trying time for a native in

this MD. Sanjay explained that so well, that you wouldn't even ask the question

about that! I suggest that you read that too. Sanjay says, that Lagna Lord

provides protection when dasa of AK comes- if AK is Lagnesh, THERE IS NO

PROTECTION!

and the person, in my 'free interpretation' will be either the Saint-renouncing

the world, or criminal /angel or devil/. I am lucky, I've been 9 years in Moon

AK+Lagnesh period and not either of this /Please wait, it's over when it's

over!/

I was feeling so 'defeated' in one period of Moon MD/Lagnesh and AK, don't forget/

I was wearing the pearls. 3 eminent astrologers said PEARL- I was so exhausted,

would try anything /unless it's downright obviously harmful/ I was not feeling

Ok about pearls and couldn't see any effect, which combined with lack of

attraction to that stone, made me quit with pearls, very quickly.

Nothing spectacular.

Later I learnt from Sanjay what that was all about.

Had to say to myself 'I told you!!' never ignore what comes from 'within', and I

do make mistakes, always when I ignore my 'smart subtle visceral faculties'.

I have no doubt under these circ. Sanjay's opinion proved its validity.

Thanks for Yoy and Abundance, I would appreciate both!

Best wishes,

Anna

Sunil John <suniljohn (AT) lycos (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Anna,

If permitted can i intervene and request you if it is not too private to share

your experiences revolving around the after-effects of wearing of Pearl ( your

AK stone)

1. Was there some sort of loss or significations revolving the houses involved

in ur chart after wearing of the stone.

2. What was the duration of the period of you wearing the stone.

To Gurus and List members

1. Why is the stone of the lagnesh not adviced, I was under the impression that

it would strengthen the whole chart.

Would be grateful for the reply

Joy and Abundance

Sunil John

Mumbai

PS:Hope this reaches the list, since has been acting up whole day.

Dear Sudharsan,

Yes it brings suffering inevitably- we certainly don't like to enchance that-

as I said in my post.

What the role of the soul AK desires, see posts bellow,

as Partha mentioned, we'll wait for somebody to clerify.

I experienced that myself- My Ak is Moon, and I was suggested to wear pearls /or

weaker sec. stone, moon tone/, by experienced astrologers!!! and i did- but

didn't like it, and decided to listen 'inner voice'. Than I learnt here with

SJC, that AK stone IS big NO_NO- It happened that my AK is Lagnesh, so double

the trouble even without the stone. Or did I miss opportunity to attain moksa?

Anna

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Dear John,

Thank you for your kind words. I am glad I was able to explain this important

issue clearly. As you know AK is a KING- thus very important.

I guess you are right about the role of suffering on the spiritual path. I am too much

'here and now' like' most people are, and i would rather avoid suffering, if possible.

No, dear John, I had my full share, I wasn't spared suffering during my Moon

MD- I was in fact quite 'desperate'for a longer period of time, and events

seemed to compete which one would bring more suffering- at one hand, I guess we

all have personal, but limited amount of suffering we can accept, and when that

limit is reached, shift inevitably occurs- you either experience higher

tolerance of pain, or get sick and tired of suffering and try something else.

My Moon is in 5th House, and its pradaba karma, meant to be experienced in this

life time. I faced so much pain in 5th house matters/my son/ of life importance,

it was occasionally unbearable. I know I was expecting to play the role of God

to my son, and my helplessness to feel 'successful in that most important to me

area, was simply too much for me. But I have learned the 'lesson of hard knocks'

- that my child is also God's child, with his own destiny, and that I should

give

to God's hands what belongs there- It's not easy for an altruistic mother, as I

tend to be, to give up trying to protect the child who, happens to be mature

man, loll! I learned to honestly let it go... Sure, nor all period was bad,

but some long chunks were quite exhausting.

As for pearls, Moonstone, etc.. When one is in pain, he/she would try anything

to alleviate it. I didn't like that 'gem' business at all, to start with- did

get pearls but that didn't feel right and I stopped wearing it- At that point I

gained some strength, by returning to my inborn strength, and get rid of

'crutches' and decided I can walk without them. And people in that medic- gem

business are not people I would trust. I believe that benefited in any way on

other's suffering is cursed. I couldn't see myself there. I had my faith, my

brain /although bewildered at that time/ my prayers..

And you get tired of suffering at one point. My sense of humour made me laugh

about my false omnipotence, and that helps!

Yes I do have Ju trine Moon, but in this particular situation that increased my

expectation that I MUST make my son fit to what I imagined he should be...

I am still in Moon MD, but it's been different for quite awhile. If nothing

else, Mars will bring back some zest of life and vitality.

I wish I could tell you where I read that, last night I tried to find that in

COVA, and spend some time reading it! For the time being you can go to VA file

section and under ISTA DEVATA, you'll find valuable info on this and other

things as well. /Because as you know Ista Devata determination depends on AK

placement in navamsha, Karakamsa, Swamsa..etc/

I hope you won't be surprised as I was, and that's an advantage. In fact

studying, my favourite sport, is an excellent remedy- lets you get a distance

from own pathetic tears, and indirectly lets you heal yourself. It's well known

that best psychologist, astrologist, healers, are 'wounded' healers-

I will find that text, maybe not this week, which will be hectic.

And, I hope our Gurus will be back, too.

Wishing you all the best,

Anna

Sunil John <suniljohn (AT) lycos (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Annaji,

Thank you for your reply. It was very clear and easily understandable.

Yes I misunderstood a part of your earlier post, now things are clear, although

I feel that for a person esp on spiritual path it might not be bad to entertain

suffering. Sometimes when I see yogis wearing stones I wonder why they are doing

it, is it to enhance their AK, their mystic abilities or what.

Sorry just thinking aloud in the previous lines.

If you have that particular post by Sanjayji, would you be kind enough to post

it once again on the list.

On a personal note, is there any benefic aspect on your Moon, am trying to think

of how you didnt undergo suffering unless you mastered the lessons of the AK.

Nor would i want you to undergo sufferings, but trying to see things here

astrologically. AK & D20 are very interesting topics.

oh, could u state for how long u were wearing the pearls. Nice to know that you

listened to your inner voice wish everyone could act on their inner voice.

Thanks for always bringing some much wanted good humor in the list.

Light and Abundance,

Sunil John

Mumbai.

PS:Pls ignore any misunderstandings due to wrong usage of english.

Dear Sunil,

I think you didn't get the right point for me, I am sorry for writing in harry,

but sometimes, if I don't type fast enough, message disappears.

It is highly desirable TO STRENGTHEN LAGNESH. However it's NO-NO to strengthen

AK, for AK always brings sufferings as a sure mean for purifications, leading

to moksa. We don't want to increase suffering, do we?

If AK happens to be lagna Lord, then it's very very trying time for a native in

this MD. Sanjay explained that so well, that you wouldn't even ask the question

about that! I suggest that you read that too. Sanjay says, that Lagna Lord

provides protection when dasa of AK comes- if AK is Lagnesh, THERE IS NO

PROTECTION!

and the person, in my 'free interpretation' will be either the Saint-renouncing

the world, or criminal /angel or devil/. I am lucky, I've been 9 years in Moon

AK+Lagnesh period and not either of this /Please wait, it's over when it's

over!/

I was feeling so 'defeated' in one period of Moon MD/Lagnesh and AK, don't forget/

I was wearing the pearls. 3 eminent astrologers said PEARL- I was so exhausted,

would try anything /unless it's downright obviously harmful/ I was not feeling

Ok about pearls and couldn't see any effect, which combined with lack of

attraction to that stone, made me quit with pearls, very quickly.

Nothing spectacular.

Later I learnt from Sanjay what that was all about.

Had to say to myself 'I told you!!' never ignore what comes from 'within', and I

do make mistakes, always when I ignore my 'smart subtle visceral faculties'.

I have no doubt under these circ. Sanjay's opinion proved its validity.

Thanks for Yoy and Abundance, I would appreciate both!

Best wishes,

Anna

Sunil John <suniljohn (AT) lycos (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Anna,

If permitted can i intervene and request you if it is not too private to share

your experiences revolving around the after-effects of wearing of Pearl ( your

AK stone)

1. Was there some sort of loss or significations revolving the houses involved

in ur chart after wearing of the stone.

2. What was the duration of the period of you wearing the stone.

To Gurus and List members

1. Why is the stone of the lagnesh not adviced, I was under the impression that

it would strengthen the whole chart.

Would be grateful for the reply

Joy and Abundance

Sunil John

Mumbai

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Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Worshipping the AK-Revised Post (Anna)

Dear Sunil,

I think you didn't get the right point for me, I am sorry for writing in harry,

but sometimes, if I don't type fast enough, message dissapers.

It is highly desirable TO STRENGHTEN LAGNESH. However it's NO-NO to strenghten

AK, for AK always brings sufferings as a sure mean for purifications, leading

to moksa. We don't want to increase suffering, do we?

If AK happens to be lagna Lord, then it's very very trying time for a native in

this MD. Sanjay explained that so well, that you wouldn't even ask the question

about that! I suggest that you read that too. Sanjay says, that Lagna Lord

provides protection when dasa of AK comes- if AK is Lagnesh, THERE IS NO

PROTECTION!

and the person, in my 'free interpretation' will be either the Saint-renouncing

the world, or criminal /angel or devil/. I am lucky, I've been 9 years in Moon

AK+Lagnesh period and not either of this /Please wait, it's over when it's

over!/

I was feeling so 'defeated' in one period of Moon MD/Lagnesh and AK, don't forget/

I was wearing the pearls. 3 eminent astrologers said PEARL- I was so exhausted,

would try anything /unless it's downright obviously harmful/ I was not feeling

Ok about pearls and couldn't see any effect, which combined with lack of

attraction to that stone, made me quit with pearls, very quickly.

Nothing spectacular.

Later I learnt from Sanjay what that was all about.

Had to say to myself 'I told you!!' never ignore what comes from 'within', and I

do make mistakes, always when I ignore my 'smart subtle visceral faculties'.

I have no doubt under these circ. Sanjay's opinion proved its validity.

Thanks for Yoy and Abundance, I would appreciate both!

Best wishes,

Anna

Sunil John <suniljohn (AT) lycos (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Anna,

If permitted can i intervene and request you if it is not too private to share

your experiences revolving around the after-effects of wearing of Pearl ( your

AK stone)

1. Was there some sort of loss or significations revolving the houses involved

in ur chart after wearing of the stone.

2. What was the duration of the period of you wearing the stone.

To Gurus and List members

1. Why is the stone of the lagnesh not adviced, I was under the impression that

it would strengthen the whole chart.

Would be grateful for the reply

Joy and Abundance

Sunil John

Mumbai

PS:Hope this reaches the list, since has been acting up whole day.

Dear Sudharsan,

Yes it brings suffering inevitably- we certainly don't like to enchance that-

as I said in my post.

What the role of the soul AK desires, see posts bellow,

as Partha mentioned, we'll wait for somebody to clerify.

I experienced that myself- My Ak is Moon, and I was suggested to wear pearls /or

weaker sec. stone, moon tone/, by experienced astrologers!!! and i did- but

didn't like it, and decided to listen 'inner voice'. Than I learnt here with

SJC, that AK stone IS big NO_NO- It happened that my AK is Lagnesh, so double

the trouble even without the stone. Or did I miss opportunity to attain moksa?

Anna

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Dear Alex,

Try the sites www.srath.com and www..org . Look for lessons on Atma

Karaka. It truly is awesome.

Hare Krishna

Sudharsankazikluder <kazikluder (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

What is AK?Please tell me, where can I learn about AK?It sounds

awesome.Thankyou.Sincerily,Alexvedic astrology,

"onlyhari" <onlyhari> wrote:> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||> > Dear Anna,> > >

If AK happens to be lagna Lord, then it's very very trying time > >for a native

in this MD. Sanjay explained that so well, that you > >wouldn't even ask the

question about that! I suggest that you read > >that too. Sanjay says, that

Lagna Lord provides protection when > >dasa of AK comes- if AK is Lagnesh,

THERE IS NO PROTECTION!> > and the person, in my 'free interpretation' will be

either the > >Saint-renouncing the world, or criminal /angel or devil/. I am >

>lucky, I've been 9 years in Moon AK+Lagnesh period and

not either > >of this /Please wait, it's over when it's over!/> > If you have

the original teaching by Sanjay on 'AK MD period & no > protection if AK is

also the lagna', could you please repost > (message # fine also) that teaching

or send to me personally? > > My AK & lagna lord is Ma (a pure malefic) and AK

MD is already on > for me since March'02! Let us see how this turns out to be.

:-). No > prizes for guessing though! At the end of AK MD in 2009, who knows? >

One point I note about your AK that it is a pure benefic (provided > you were

born in the waxing phase of the moon; even if it was the > waning phase, it

still could be mildly benefic as in its role as the > AK.). Did you have a lot

of good things happening during the AK MD > even if you felt somewhat tortured

in this MD?> > thanks in advance, regards and always a delight to read your

emails >

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September 1, 2003

Anna...I am a king so please address me as such. I am not worried about not

receiving a reply. It really doesn't matter.I do not mind Marques but I prefer

King. I do not know what ak is. Thank you very much.

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