Guest guest Posted June 7, 2003 Report Share Posted June 7, 2003 vedic astrology, "planck12" <planck12> wrote: > Hello everyone, > Just a few thoughts that makes the skeptical mind think. Im sure the Maharishi thought of it differently. But intodays world since we apply principle solely based on the mathematicl science rather that intuition and we come to the conjuncture of so many possiblities here are a few thoughts along the same: > > 1. If Mars and Saturn are enemies then how does mars exhlated in the sign of saturn. Logically speaking U always feel comfortable and high in sprits when U go to the hosue of a friend rather than the house of a enemy. Mars is exalted in Capricorn because the energy of the planet corrects and enhances the qualities of the sign and vice versa. Mars overcomes the depressed energy of Capricorn, and empowers its need to rise ever higher on the mountain of life. On the other hand, Capricorn cools down the Martian fire to something that has greater traction on the material ploane. It is exactly like enclosing fire in an internal combustion engine, instead of letting it burn freely. > 2.Similary Saturn is Deb in Aries so its rather wired logically thinking of it saturn holds the exhlation sign of mars and mars holds the deb sign of saturn when mutually they are incompatible planets. Here the energy of the planet works at cross-purposes with the qualities of the sign. The Aries impulsiveness prevents the strategic planning and endurance over time of Saturn from manifesting. And the Saturnian stolidity and coldness kills the Arian enthusiasm and fire. In general, the traditional exaltations and debilitations will be found to be correct in actual practice. You can understand them *intuitively* by looking at the compatibility or incompatibility of the sign with the planet, as I have done here. Om Tryambakam Yajamahe Horaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2003 Report Share Posted June 7, 2003 Dear Horaku, U have stated that in the case of saturn in mars the energy works in a cross purpose why is this so? Infact saturn should overwhelm aries rather than aries overwhemling saturn why since saturn is way bigger in size a planet than mars. Saturn is furthest out the sun and recieves less sun energy than mars. Saturn take longer to orbit around sun than mars and hence its effects should be long lasting and deeper than mars. So how come a planet such as saturn gets overwhelemd by the energy of mars? And simliary how does mars over power saturns signs. By similiar reasoning mars is small its net energy is less than saturn its effects are short lived as compered to saturn hence implusivness in case of mars and logetivity in case of saturn. So how can mars overpower saturn? Also if mars and saturn are enemies how I wonder one holds the exhlation sign of the other and other holds the deblattion sign of an other. Say for analgy. If two people are hard bitter enemies. Then either one of them will not welcome the other one in their house. Saturn/Venus/Mer belong to one camp of earth/ water. Sun/Moon/Mar/Jup belong to the other camp. The first camp is asuras and the jupter camp is that of a deva. So how can a deva planet get exhlated in ausrays when they are bitter enemeies. Dont U think my reasoning mightbe justified to based on simple principles regards and best wishes Ums vedic astrology, "shakuhoraku" <shakuhoraku> wrote: > vedic astrology, "planck12" <planck12> > wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Just a few thoughts that makes the skeptical mind think. Im sure > the Maharishi thought of it differently. But intodays world since we > apply principle solely based on the mathematicl science rather that > intuition and we come to the conjuncture of so many possiblities here > are a few thoughts along the same: > > > > 1. If Mars and Saturn are enemies then how does mars exhlated in > the sign of saturn. Logically speaking U always feel comfortable and > high in sprits when U go to the hosue of a friend rather than the > house of a enemy. > > Mars is exalted in Capricorn because the energy of the planet > corrects and enhances the qualities of the sign and vice versa. Mars > overcomes the depressed energy of Capricorn, and empowers its need to > rise ever higher on the mountain of life. On the other hand, > Capricorn cools down the Martian fire to something that has greater > traction on the material ploane. It is exactly like enclosing fire > in an internal combustion engine, instead of letting it burn freely. > > > 2.Similary Saturn is Deb in Aries so its rather wired logically > thinking of it saturn holds the exhlation sign of mars and mars holds > the deb sign of saturn when mutually they are incompatible planets. > > Here the energy of the planet works at cross-purposes with the > qualities of the sign. The Aries impulsiveness prevents the > strategic planning and endurance over time of Saturn from > manifesting. And the Saturnian stolidity and coldness kills the > Arian enthusiasm and fire. > > In general, the traditional exaltations and debilitations will be > found to be correct in actual practice. You can understand them > *intuitively* by looking at the compatibility or incompatibility of > the sign with the planet, as I have done here. > > Om Tryambakam Yajamahe > Horaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2003 Report Share Posted June 7, 2003 vedic astrology, "planck12" <planck12> wrote: > Dear Horaku, > > U have stated that in the case of saturn in mars the energy works in a cross purpose why is this so? > > Infact saturn should overwhelm aries rather than aries overwhemling saturn why since saturn is way bigger in size a planet than mars. Saturn is furthest out the sun and recieves less sun energy than mars. Saturn take longer to orbit around sun than mars and hence its effects should be long lasting and deeper than mars. So how come a planet such as saturn gets overwhelemd by the energy of mars? > Because Mars belongs to the Devic camp, and Saturn belongs to the Ashuric camp. The Devic camp (Sun, Moon, Mars, and Jupiter) has more power than the Ashuric camp. Being closer to the Sun, and therefore brighter, in Mars' case, overcomes Saturn's plodding persistence. Om Tryambakam Yajamahe Horaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2003 Report Share Posted June 7, 2003 Dear Horaku, Well nice explanation. But there is just one problem with the reasoning. U say mars overwhelming capricon because its from the Devas and they are more powerful THEN, HOw come sun gets debilated in libra the sign of a asurya. Infact Sun being so strong and infact being a star that shed light on all. How can such a powerful Deva get Debilated in Asuryas Camp. Dont U think the description U gave would break down here. Waiting for ur response regards Ums vedic astrology, "shakuhoraku" <shakuhoraku> wrote: > vedic astrology, "planck12" <planck12> > wrote: > > Dear Horaku, > > > > U have stated that in the case of saturn in mars the energy works > in a cross purpose why is this so? > > > > Infact saturn should overwhelm aries rather than aries overwhemling > saturn why since saturn is way bigger in size a planet than mars. > Saturn is furthest out the sun and recieves less sun energy than > mars. Saturn take longer to orbit around sun than mars and hence its > effects should be long lasting and deeper than mars. So how come a > planet such as saturn gets overwhelemd by the energy of mars? > > > Because Mars belongs to the Devic camp, and Saturn belongs to the > Ashuric camp. The Devic camp (Sun, Moon, Mars, and Jupiter) has > more power than the Ashuric camp. Being closer to the Sun, and > therefore brighter, in Mars' case, overcomes Saturn's plodding > persistence. > > Om Tryambakam Yajamahe > Horaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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