Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Dear Partha Ji (AL), Material manifestation of Lagna - It thus represents the demonstration or exhibition of the self. 12th house represents the end of Lagna, otherwise liberation of the self. (UL),Manifestation of liberation - means the world is able to see that the individual is striving for liberation.(giving up all material possessions) Yoga is union.Thus union of these two manifests as - the self himself is striving for moksha,or in otherwords he is giving up or ready to give up everything.Thus i understand this 'giver' perception is general and not related to spouse alone.Kindly confirm. Thanks a lot for making my otherwise unused brain cells active :-) Pradeep vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > Dear Pradeep > > AL is the material manifestation of Lagna(lagna+paka=AL) > UL is the material manifestation of 12th house(Moksha!!) > SO what happens when they have a Yoga?? > what is yoga? think about it > regards > partha > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > Dear Anna ji and Partha Ji > > > > I think i had asked this question before.Why is UL and AL together > > understood as, capable of more 'giving'.Is this giving relevant > only > > in matters related to spouse or in general.Because Upa means > > secondary(sub) as well as 'near'. > > I have more interest because i too have this together(AL,UL) in the > > 10th house. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep > > vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente> > wrote: > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > If AL and UL are the same that indicates a giving nature/proven, > > my case/- since both are in 9thH, I would say the native can > > afford /too much?/ giving. > > > > > > Therefore, I assume if they are in trine, from native's > > perspective only /not marriage issues/, there will be 'happy > balance > > between giving and receiving. Having said that conjunction of both, > > seems to imply 'excessive giving'. > > > Along the same line, bad aspect may indicate tension > > between /seemingly, IMO/ opposite forces of giving-receiving. > > Wondering if we could see 'stinginess' there- not only in material > > sense, but in emotional as well. > > > Seems good to explore= because AL-UL connection implies how the > > native /AL/ gives to significant others, spouse being just one of > > them /UL/ > > > ? > > > Regards, > > > A. > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > > > Dear Aru > > > > > > The position of UL shows our giving. It also happens to be the > 8th > > > house of mysticism in this chart. > > > > > > generally for material purposes Ul in 8th is not so good, as 8th > > is a > > > dusthana. So it could show problems with spouse, or rather > > relations > > > with spouse. The fact that there are two great benefics in UL > > offsets > > > this negativity, as people consider the native a "giver". > > > The position of 2nd lord from UL must be considered for longevity > > of > > > the first marriage or marriage like relationship. He is quite > well > > > placed. > > > > > > regards > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Aravinda" > > <aru_dulla> > > > wrote: > > > > Hello to gurus....I have an interesting chart with me here. The > > > > native has AL and A7 in samasaptaka and in mutually badhak > > places, > > > > with UL in a dusthana from AL. UL itself is in a dusthana in > the > > > > eighth house but in conjunction with AK jupiter and UL lord > > venus > > > > and 7th lord mars and aspected by a whole host of five planets. > > Can > > > > anyone give comments on this placement? I am confused with the > > > array > > > > of aspects and conjunctions on the UL. Please help me on this. > > > > > > > > Thank you Partha for you last response and and thanks again for > > > your > > > > response on this one > > > > > > > > birth data > > > > DOB: July 17th 1977 > > > > TOB: 12:24 PM > > > > POB: Melbourne, Australia > > > > Lagna should be thula with venus , jupiter and mars in eighth > > house. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Aru > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Photos - easier uploading and sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Dear Pradeep Ul is what we give, when Al is with UL, then You are giving yourself, quite good. The yoga between Moon and jupiter, another form of gajakesari yoga. regards partha vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > Dear Partha Ji > > (AL), Material manifestation of Lagna - It thus represents the > demonstration or exhibition of the self. > > 12th house represents the end of Lagna, otherwise liberation of the > self. > > (UL),Manifestation of liberation - means the world is able to see > that the individual is striving for liberation.(giving up all > material possessions) > > Yoga is union.Thus union of these two manifests as - the self himself > is striving for moksha,or in otherwords he is giving up or ready to > give up everything.Thus i understand this 'giver' perception is > general and not related to spouse alone.Kindly confirm. > > Thanks a lot for making my otherwise unused brain cells active :-) > > Pradeep > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > <partvinu5> wrote: > > Dear Pradeep > > > > AL is the material manifestation of Lagna(lagna+paka=AL) > > UL is the material manifestation of 12th house(Moksha!!) > > SO what happens when they have a Yoga?? > > what is yoga? think about it > > regards > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > Dear Anna ji and Partha Ji > > > > > > I think i had asked this question before.Why is UL and AL > together > > > understood as, capable of more 'giving'.Is this giving relevant > > only > > > in matters related to spouse or in general.Because Upa means > > > secondary(sub) as well as 'near'. > > > I have more interest because i too have this together(AL,UL) in > the > > > 10th house. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Pradeep > > > vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente> > > wrote: > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > If AL and UL are the same that indicates a giving > nature/proven, > > > my case/- since both are in 9thH, I would say the native can > > > afford /too much?/ giving. > > > > > > > > Therefore, I assume if they are in trine, from native's > > > perspective only /not marriage issues/, there will be 'happy > > balance > > > between giving and receiving. Having said that conjunction of > both, > > > seems to imply 'excessive giving'. > > > > Along the same line, bad aspect may indicate tension > > > between /seemingly, IMO/ opposite forces of giving-receiving. > > > Wondering if we could see 'stinginess' there- not only in > material > > > sense, but in emotional as well. > > > > Seems good to explore= because AL-UL connection implies how the > > > native /AL/ gives to significant others, spouse being just one of > > > them /UL/ > > > > ? > > > > Regards, > > > > A. > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > > > > Dear Aru > > > > > > > > The position of UL shows our giving. It also happens to be the > > 8th > > > > house of mysticism in this chart. > > > > > > > > generally for material purposes Ul in 8th is not so good, as > 8th > > > is a > > > > dusthana. So it could show problems with spouse, or rather > > > relations > > > > with spouse. The fact that there are two great benefics in UL > > > offsets > > > > this negativity, as people consider the native a "giver". > > > > The position of 2nd lord from UL must be considered for > longevity > > > of > > > > the first marriage or marriage like relationship. He is quite > > well > > > > placed. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Aravinda" > > > <aru_dulla> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hello to gurus....I have an interesting chart with me here. > The > > > > > native has AL and A7 in samasaptaka and in mutually badhak > > > places, > > > > > with UL in a dusthana from AL. UL itself is in a dusthana in > > the > > > > > eighth house but in conjunction with AK jupiter and UL lord > > > venus > > > > > and 7th lord mars and aspected by a whole host of five > planets. > > > Can > > > > > anyone give comments on this placement? I am confused with > the > > > > array > > > > > of aspects and conjunctions on the UL. Please help me on this. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Partha for you last response and and thanks again > for > > > > your > > > > > response on this one > > > > > > > > > > birth data > > > > > DOB: July 17th 1977 > > > > > TOB: 12:24 PM > > > > > POB: Melbourne, Australia > > > > > Lagna should be thula with venus , jupiter and mars in eighth > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > Aru > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Photos - easier uploading and sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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