Guest guest Posted November 15, 2003 Report Share Posted November 15, 2003 |Namah Shivaaya| Dear Pradeep, You have asked a good question. I would consider one taking a more wholistic picture and considering all factors to paint an integrated picture of the chart. It also depends on what one is looking for? Are you considering the mind of the person (Chandra lagna), the physical body (lagnesh) Satya Peeth (Lagna) or how things will manifest in the material word (Arudha Lagna)? For example, there are many principles given in Jaimini Sutras regarding reading from the Arudha Lagna (AL), alone. 3rd / 6th from the AL reveals the courage and rivalry about a person. The Trines to the AL will give it direction, and a rise in the image wil occur. The 2nd and 8th from the AL will be resources to the image. The 7th will act like a baadhak (obstacle). So, in a similar fashion, one could examine the Hora, Ghati and Shri Lagna alone, but will miss on the entire picture. Hoep that some of this helps. Best wishes and warm regards, Nitin. :> vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > Dear and respected members > > I have read about the importance of special lagnas in analysing > charts.Apart from sun and moon there are others like Ghati ,Hora > representing power,wealth etc. > > But can we predict something based on just any one of these Lagnas? > Because of permutation combinations we could always deduct some > yogas from some of these Lagnas. > > Shouldnt these lagnas be used only as an additional > confirmation.That is if some strength is present from Rashi,Chandra > and Navamsha Varga, then we could go down to Ghati or Hora or Sree > etc.Forgive me if i am not correct here. > > Because if you get the chart of a popular person you could manage to > find some yogas from any of these lagnas and convince using our > skills.But from an unpopular(this is a vague term!) chart can we > predict something based on these alone. > > Thanks > Pradeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Dear Nitin Ji Thanks a lot for your explanation. I have also read a little about the Arudha Lagna and various Arudha Padas and their significance. Why is 8th from AL considered as a resource? (2nd from AL i am thinking is the 'dhanasthana' for AL).Is it because 8th determines the duration or life of the manifestation. Why is seventh a Badhak? As it is opposite to the AL?In this case if the Badhakatipathi is well placed and is a benefic,then the ends aimed by it should be for a good,though an obstacle.(I mean its effect should be good).Also planets well placed in Badhakasthana will aspect AL and hence should bear good results.Am i thinking in the right direction here? Thanks again and regds Pradeep vedic astrology, "Nitin" <astronitin> wrote: > |Namah Shivaaya| > > Dear Pradeep, > > You have asked a good question. I would consider one taking a more > wholistic picture and considering all factors to paint an integrated > picture of the chart. > > It also depends on what one is looking for? Are you considering the > mind of the person (Chandra lagna), the physical body (lagnesh) Satya > Peeth (Lagna) or how things will manifest in the material word > (Arudha Lagna)? > > For example, there are many principles given in Jaimini Sutras > regarding reading from the Arudha Lagna (AL), alone. > > 3rd / 6th from the AL reveals the courage and rivalry about a person. > > The Trines to the AL will give it direction, and a rise in the image > wil occur. > > The 2nd and 8th from the AL will be resources to the image. > > The 7th will act like a baadhak (obstacle). > > So, in a similar fashion, one could examine the Hora, Ghati and Shri > Lagna alone, but will miss on the entire picture. > > Hoep that some of this helps. > > Best wishes and warm regards, > Nitin. > :> > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > Dear and respected members > > > > I have read about the importance of special lagnas in analysing > > charts.Apart from sun and moon there are others like Ghati ,Hora > > representing power,wealth etc. > > > > But can we predict something based on just any one of these Lagnas? > > Because of permutation combinations we could always deduct some > > yogas from some of these Lagnas. > > > > Shouldnt these lagnas be used only as an additional > > confirmation.That is if some strength is present from Rashi,Chandra > > and Navamsha Varga, then we could go down to Ghati or Hora or Sree > > etc.Forgive me if i am not correct here. > > > > Because if you get the chart of a popular person you could manage > to > > find some yogas from any of these lagnas and convince using our > > skills.But from an unpopular(this is a vague term!) chart can we > > predict something based on these alone. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Dear Sudharsan Ji Thanks for the detailed explanation.Doubts regarding 8th from AL is clear now.The example was also good. Ofcourse i have read the archives from this list as well as achyuta gurukulam. The questions were my doubts after reading those.Because Narasimha Ji has done some analysis with respect to Ghati Lagna alone.Thus the doubt and the first mail regarding this from me. Now regarding 7th from AL.Exalted planets(benefics) aspecting AL is good.So this can sit in 7th from AL and still aspect.So you mean to say,suppose if this is a benefic like waxing moon or venus or jupiter,they will lose their benefic nature and act as badhak for AL? Thanks again for the reply regds Pradeep astrology, Sudharsan Srinivasan <sudhar108> wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Pradeep, > > Dont mean to intrude.You can read all about the special lagnas if you explore the archives. Narasimha ji and Sanjay ji have explained these lagnas and their use in great detail. Try the messages in the begining of this group i.e in 1999.In fact Narasimha starts the discussion group with a post on Hora Lagna and Ghati Lagna. In fact I reccomend this to everyone as I myself benefitted greatly by reading evey message by PVR and Sanjay ji right from inception. > > 8th from AL is the second from the 7th from AL. The 7th from AL represents others(people). The second from the 7th i.e the 8th represents the resources of others. Thus the 2nd house is your resource while the 2nd from 7th. i,e 8th represents others resources. > > To give you an example, if you try for a new position while continuing in you current job, you will most certainly be using your current employers time to interview, use the current employers PC for communicating with prospective employers etc. This is an example of how you will improve your status(AL) by employing others (8th house) resources. > > The 7th from AL is the opposition to that house. Any planet that is placed in it will lose its significance. A good example is the placement of Rahu. Such people turn out to be very spiritual as the qualities of Rahu(base, tamasic, materialistic) are lost. > > Hope this helps. > > Hare Krishna > > Sudharsan > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > Dear Nitin Ji > > Thanks a lot for your explanation. > I have also read a little about the Arudha Lagna and various Arudha > Padas and their significance. > > Why is 8th from AL considered as a resource? (2nd from AL i am > thinking is the 'dhanasthana' for AL).Is it because 8th determines > the duration or life of the manifestation. > Why is seventh a Badhak? As it is opposite to the AL?In this case if > the Badhakatipathi is well placed and is a benefic,then the ends > aimed by it should be for a good,though an obstacle.(I mean its > effect should be good).Also planets well placed in Badhakasthana > will aspect AL and hence should bear good results.Am i thinking in > the right direction here? > > Thanks again and regds > Pradeep > > vedic astrology, "Nitin" <astronitin> > wrote: > > |Namah Shivaaya| > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > You have asked a good question. I would consider one taking a more > > wholistic picture and considering all factors to paint an > integrated > > picture of the chart. > > > > It also depends on what one is looking for? Are you considering > the > > mind of the person (Chandra lagna), the physical body (lagnesh) > Satya > > Peeth (Lagna) or how things will manifest in the material word > > (Arudha Lagna)? > > > > For example, there are many principles given in Jaimini Sutras > > regarding reading from the Arudha Lagna (AL), alone. > > > > 3rd / 6th from the AL reveals the courage and rivalry about a > person. > > > > The Trines to the AL will give it direction, and a rise in the > image > > wil occur. > > > > The 2nd and 8th from the AL will be resources to the image. > > > > The 7th will act like a baadhak (obstacle). > > > > So, in a similar fashion, one could examine the Hora, Ghati and > Shri > > Lagna alone, but will miss on the entire picture. > > > > Hoep that some of this helps. > > > > Best wishes and warm regards, > > Nitin. > > :> > > > > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > Dear and respected members > > > > > > I have read about the importance of special lagnas in analysing > > > charts.Apart from sun and moon there are others like Ghati ,Hora > > > representing power,wealth etc. > > > > > > But can we predict something based on just any one of these > Lagnas? > > > Because of permutation combinations we could always deduct some > > > yogas from some of these Lagnas. > > > > > > Shouldnt these lagnas be used only as an additional > > > confirmation.That is if some strength is present from > Rashi,Chandra > > > and Navamsha Varga, then we could go down to Ghati or Hora or > Sree > > > etc.Forgive me if i am not correct here. > > > > > > Because if you get the chart of a popular person you could > manage > > to > > > find some yogas from any of these lagnas and convince using our > > > skills.But from an unpopular(this is a vague term!) chart can we > > > predict something based on these alone. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Pradeep > > > Sponsor > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Dear Pradeep, Although your question is not directed at me...If you kindly allow me to interfere, I found some interesting answers from Shri Sanjay Rath's Jamini Sutras(1.3.17 Page 82)...also you have a good mind boggling question by the way. 1. "The darapada (A7) in a quadrant or trine from Arudha Lagna brings the blessings of Sr Devi(prosperity and god fortune)" . " …The seventh house also decides matters pertaining to money and business". 2. "If the Darapada is in other houses(other than the quadrants/trines) the native is unfortunate. `The Darapada in 6th/8th/12th houses from Arudha Lagna makes the couple inimically disposed dowards each other…not only is there poverty but the couple are not physically compatible". 3. Also Stanza 1.3.22 says " Good fortune should be deuced if te lagna or the seventh have unobstructed argala".."Benefics causing argala on the lagna or the 7th house give wealth and prosperity"…"Natural benefics means employed and fruits are wealth, prosperity and well being…Natural malefics means fould means…and the fruits thereof, in the long run, are bound to be adverse". So Thanks to Shri Rath, there are several clarifications already here. Now all we have to do is to apply these principles to various charts. Good Luck. Thanks and Regards RMK vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > Dear Sudharsan Ji > > Thanks for the detailed explanation.Doubts regarding 8th from AL is > clear now.The example was also good. > > Ofcourse i have read the archives from this list as well as achyuta > gurukulam. > > The questions were my doubts after reading those.Because Narasimha > Ji has done some analysis with respect to Ghati Lagna alone.Thus the > doubt and the first mail regarding this from me. > > Now regarding 7th from AL.Exalted planets(benefics) aspecting AL is > good.So this can sit in 7th from AL and still aspect.So you mean to > say,suppose if this is a benefic like waxing moon or venus or > jupiter,they will lose their benefic nature and act as badhak for > AL? > > Thanks again for the reply > > regds > Pradeep > > > astrology, Sudharsan Srinivasan <sudhar108> > wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > Dont mean to intrude.You can read all about the special lagnas if > you explore the archives. Narasimha ji and Sanjay ji have explained > these lagnas and their use in great detail. Try the messages in the > begining of this group i.e in 1999.In fact Narasimha starts the > discussion group with a post on Hora Lagna and Ghati Lagna. In fact > I reccomend this to everyone as I myself benefitted greatly by > reading evey message by PVR and Sanjay ji right from inception. > > > > 8th from AL is the second from the 7th from AL. The 7th from AL > represents others(people). The second from the 7th i.e the 8th > represents the resources of others. Thus the 2nd house is your > resource while the 2nd from 7th. i,e 8th represents others resources. > > > > To give you an example, if you try for a new position while > continuing in you current job, you will most certainly be using your > current employers time to interview, use the current employers PC > for communicating with prospective employers etc. This is an example > of how you will improve your status(AL) by employing others (8th > house) resources. > > > > The 7th from AL is the opposition to that house. Any planet that > is placed in it will lose its significance. A good example is the > placement of Rahu. Such people turn out to be very spiritual as the > qualities of Rahu(base, tamasic, materialistic) are lost. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Hare Krishna > > > > Sudharsan > > > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > Dear Nitin Ji > > > > Thanks a lot for your explanation. > > I have also read a little about the Arudha Lagna and various > Arudha > > Padas and their significance. > > > > Why is 8th from AL considered as a resource? (2nd from AL i am > > thinking is the 'dhanasthana' for AL).Is it because 8th determines > > the duration or life of the manifestation. > > Why is seventh a Badhak? As it is opposite to the AL?In this case > if > > the Badhakatipathi is well placed and is a benefic,then the ends > > aimed by it should be for a good,though an obstacle.(I mean its > > effect should be good).Also planets well placed in Badhakasthana > > will aspect AL and hence should bear good results.Am i thinking in > > the right direction here? > > > > Thanks again and regds > > Pradeep > > > > vedic astrology, "Nitin" > <astronitin> > > wrote: > > > |Namah Shivaaya| > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > You have asked a good question. I would consider one taking a > more > > > wholistic picture and considering all factors to paint an > > integrated > > > picture of the chart. > > > > > > It also depends on what one is looking for? Are you considering > > the > > > mind of the person (Chandra lagna), the physical body (lagnesh) > > Satya > > > Peeth (Lagna) or how things will manifest in the material word > > > (Arudha Lagna)? > > > > > > For example, there are many principles given in Jaimini Sutras > > > regarding reading from the Arudha Lagna (AL), alone. > > > > > > 3rd / 6th from the AL reveals the courage and rivalry about a > > person. > > > > > > The Trines to the AL will give it direction, and a rise in the > > image > > > wil occur. > > > > > > The 2nd and 8th from the AL will be resources to the image. > > > > > > The 7th will act like a baadhak (obstacle). > > > > > > So, in a similar fashion, one could examine the Hora, Ghati and > > Shri > > > Lagna alone, but will miss on the entire picture. > > > > > > Hoep that some of this helps. > > > > > > Best wishes and warm regards, > > > Nitin. > > > :> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > > Dear and respected members > > > > > > > > I have read about the importance of special lagnas in > analysing > > > > charts.Apart from sun and moon there are others like > Ghati ,Hora > > > > representing power,wealth etc. > > > > > > > > But can we predict something based on just any one of these > > Lagnas? > > > > Because of permutation combinations we could always deduct > some > > > > yogas from some of these Lagnas. > > > > > > > > Shouldnt these lagnas be used only as an additional > > > > confirmation.That is if some strength is present from > > Rashi,Chandra > > > > and Navamsha Varga, then we could go down to Ghati or Hora or > > Sree > > > > etc.Forgive me if i am not correct here. > > > > > > > > Because if you get the chart of a popular person you could > > manage > > > to > > > > find some yogas from any of these lagnas and convince using > our > > > > skills.But from an unpopular(this is a vague term!) chart can > we > > > > predict something based on these alone. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Pradeep, You got it right, special lagans only show what nature of the good results one would accrue like money, power etc. However this shall only happen when there is a promise in the chart. So only when there is a rajayoga in the chart, you can use the special lagans to confirm what form of Rajayoga it is. The extent etc. can be decided on the basis of overall planetary positions in the horoscope. Do consider AK also in the basic analysis including what you say from Lagna, Chandra Lagna, Navamsa etc. Best Wishes Sarajit vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep] Sunday, November 16, 2003 1:58 AM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Special Lagnas Dear and respected members I have read about the importance of special lagnas in analysing charts.Apart from sun and moon there are others like Ghati ,Hora representing power,wealth etc. But can we predict something based on just any one of these Lagnas? Because of permutation combinations we could always deduct some yogas from some of these Lagnas. Shouldnt these lagnas be used only as an additional confirmation.That is if some strength is present from Rashi,Chandra and Navamsha Varga, then we could go down to Ghati or Hora or Sree etc.Forgive me if i am not correct here. Because if you get the chart of a popular person you could manage to find some yogas from any of these lagnas and convince using our skills.But from an unpopular(this is a vague term!) chart can we predict something based on these alone. Thanks Pradeep Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Dear Sarajit ji Thanks for the confirmation.My question is happy with your answer.Because the doubt which i had in my mind was if the Rashi doesn't promise (Or Janma Rashi) can others guarantee. Thanks for the Atmakaraka point. After getting your confirmation i tried to understand for example the strong points in Aishwarya Rais chart(mentioned in archives) just from the Lagna alone. As per Jataka Parijata, If Rahu or Ketu is joining trinal or kendra lords in kendra this will result in a Raja yoga(i had once done a similar understanding for chandrashekar jis chart and remember him confirming that).As she is having trinal(9th) lord and 2nd lord Venus joining this Rahu in a quadrant(4th house) this confirms the Raja yoga.Also as venus is joining this rahu the results can be related to beauty,art etc and as it is happening in the 4th house fame was for the Motherland. Venus as 2nd ruler resulted in monetary benefits as well.Moreover Moon the ruler of Labhasthana and popularity is joining Rahu and Venus in 4th.Saturn ruler of another trine is joining kethu in the 10th house.Thus both Rahu and Ketu are forming Raja Yogas.Jupiter is aspecting ascendant though debilitated. Thus i believe as you have opined if there is a promise,then we could confirm these by checking the planets aspecting conjoining special lagnas like Arudha/Ghati/Hora etc. Thanks & Respect Pradeep vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit@s...> wrote: > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Pradeep, > > You got it right, special lagans only show what nature of the good > results one would accrue like money, power etc. However this shall only > happen when there is a promise in the chart. So only when there is a > rajayoga in the chart, you can use the special lagans to confirm what > form of Rajayoga it is. The extent etc. can be decided on the basis of > overall planetary positions in the horoscope. > > Do consider AK also in the basic analysis including what you say from > Lagna, Chandra Lagna, Navamsa etc. > > Best Wishes > Sarajit > > > vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep] > Sunday, November 16, 2003 1:58 AM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Special Lagnas > > Dear and respected members > > I have read about the importance of special lagnas in analysing > charts.Apart from sun and moon there are others like Ghati ,Hora > representing power,wealth etc. > > But can we predict something based on just any one of these Lagnas? > Because of permutation combinations we could always deduct some > yogas from some of these Lagnas. > > Shouldnt these lagnas be used only as an additional > confirmation.That is if some strength is present from Rashi,Chandra > and Navamsha Varga, then we could go down to Ghati or Hora or Sree > etc.Forgive me if i am not correct here. > > Because if you get the chart of a popular person you could manage to > find some yogas from any of these lagnas and convince using our > skills.But from an unpopular(this is a vague term!) chart can we > predict something based on these alone. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Dear Anna ji Thanks for your mail. I am not aware of aspects.But from my knowledge gained through the learned members in the list i can say,aspects might not have an effect here.Becasuse Rahu and Ketu acquires the qualities of the planets with whom they join. At the same time I have read that - Rahu and Ketu alone in kendras can become Yoga Karakas.Thus if trinal lords are aspecting those Rahu and Ketu it could be beneficial. But learned members have to reply as i am only in the process of strengthening my basics. Thanks again Pradeep vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente> wrote: > Dear Pradeep, > Thanks for posting 'smart' question which brought back our Sarajit on the List. > > Thanks Sarajit, for the post. > I have more questions > when we say conjoin /rahu with kendra lord in kendra/ do we mean 'aspect' as well? Would nature of aspect decide nature of Yoga- trinal as opposed to square, for example? > What's the nature of this yoga, in general? > > Good that you reminded about Special lagnas as 'potentials' which may manifest only if otherwise confirmed in the chart- same with yogas > Warmest regards, > Anna > > > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > Dear Sarajit ji > > Thanks for the confirmation.My question is happy with your > answer.Because the doubt which i had in my mind was if the Rashi > doesn't promise (Or Janma Rashi) can others guarantee. > Thanks for the Atmakaraka point. > > After getting your confirmation i tried to understand for example the > strong points in Aishwarya Rais chart(mentioned in archives) just > from the Lagna alone. > > As per Jataka Parijata, If Rahu or Ketu is joining trinal or kendra > lords in kendra this will result in a Raja yoga(i had once done a > similar understanding for chandrashekar jis chart and remember him > confirming that).As she is having trinal(9th) lord and 2nd lord Venus > joining this Rahu in a quadrant(4th house) this confirms the Raja > yoga.Also as venus is joining this rahu the results can be related to > beauty,art etc and as it is happening in the 4th house fame was for > the Motherland. Venus as 2nd ruler resulted in monetary benefits as > well.Moreover Moon the ruler of Labhasthana and popularity is joining > Rahu and Venus in 4th.Saturn ruler of another trine is joining kethu > in the 10th house.Thus both Rahu and Ketu are forming Raja > Yogas.Jupiter is aspecting ascendant though debilitated. > Thus i believe as you have opined if there is a promise,then we could > confirm these by checking the planets aspecting conjoining special > lagnas like Arudha/Ghati/Hora etc. > > Thanks & Respect > Pradeep > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" > <sarajit@s...> wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > You got it right, special lagans only show what nature of the good > > results one would accrue like money, power etc. However this shall > only > > happen when there is a promise in the chart. So only when there is a > > rajayoga in the chart, you can use the special lagans to confirm > what > > form of Rajayoga it is. The extent etc. can be decided on the basis > of > > overall planetary positions in the horoscope. > > > > Do consider AK also in the basic analysis including what you say > from > > Lagna, Chandra Lagna, Navamsa etc. > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep] > > Sunday, November 16, 2003 1:58 AM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Special Lagnas > > > > Dear and respected members > > > > I have read about the importance of special lagnas in analysing > > charts.Apart from sun and moon there are others like Ghati ,Hora > > representing power,wealth etc. > > > > But can we predict something based on just any one of these Lagnas? > > Because of permutation combinations we could always deduct some > > yogas from some of these Lagnas. > > > > Shouldnt these lagnas be used only as an additional > > confirmation.That is if some strength is present from Rashi,Chandra > > and Navamsha Varga, then we could go down to Ghati or Hora or Sree > > etc.Forgive me if i am not correct here. > > > > Because if you get the chart of a popular person you could manage > to > > find some yogas from any of these lagnas and convince using our > > skills.But from an unpopular(this is a vague term!) chart can we > > predict something based on these alone. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 Dear Sarajit Ji Thanks for the mail. Shloka 16. Till this time from the list what i have learned was Rahu and Ketu gives effect of the planets with which they join and also by virtue of their co-rulership. But in this shloka ,co-rulership is not mentioned but yuti with a bhava lord is mentioned.Thus does it mean that the results of rahu and ketu will also go to those respective bhavas,whose lords which they are in association with?Then your concern is valid(those planets start giving results of rahu instead). Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit@s...> wrote: > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Anna and Pradeep, > > Even BPHS supports the dictum that Rahu with the yogakarakas give rise > to rajayogas vide yoga-karakadyaya (ch 34) sloka 16-17, which says > > 16. Rahu and Ketu. Rahu and Ketu give predominantly the effects, as due > to their yuti with a Bhava Lord, or, as due to the Bhava they occupy. > 17. If Rahu and/or Ketu are in Kendr, receiving a Drishti from, or in > association with the Lord of a Kon, or of a Kendr, it will become Yog > Karak. > > However, I am always skeptical with the planet (kendra/ kona lord) which > joins such Rahu. It starts giving the results of Rahu instead. > > Best Wishes > Sarajit > > > > > > Anna [bona_mente] > Tuesday, November 18, 2003 4:26 AM > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Special Lagnas > > Dear Pradeep, > Thanks for posting 'smart' question which brought back our Sarajit on > the List. > > Thanks Sarajit, for the post. > I have more questions > when we say conjoin /rahu with kendra lord in kendra/ do we mean > 'aspect' as well? Would nature of aspect decide nature of Yoga- trinal > as opposed to square, for example? > What's the nature of this yoga, in general? > > Good that you reminded about Special lagnas as 'potentials' which may > manifest only if otherwise confirmed in the chart- same with yogas > Warmest regards, > Anna > > > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > Dear Sarajit ji > > Thanks for the confirmation.My question is happy with your > answer.Because the doubt which i had in my mind was if the Rashi > doesn't promise (Or Janma Rashi) can others guarantee. > Thanks for the Atmakaraka point. > > After getting your confirmation i tried to understand for example the > strong points in Aishwarya Rais chart(mentioned in archives) just > from the Lagna alone. > > As per Jataka Parijata, If Rahu or Ketu is joining trinal or kendra > lords in kendra this will result in a Raja yoga(i had once done a > similar understanding for chandrashekar jis chart and remember him > confirming that).As she is having trinal(9th) lord and 2nd lord Venus > joining this Rahu in a quadrant(4th house) this confirms the Raja > yoga.Also as venus is joining this rahu the results can be related to > beauty,art etc and as it is happening in the 4th house fame was for > the Motherland. Venus as 2nd ruler resulted in monetary benefits as > well.Moreover Moon the ruler of Labhasthana and popularity is joining > Rahu and Venus in 4th.Saturn ruler of another trine is joining kethu > in the 10th house.Thus both Rahu and Ketu are forming Raja > Yogas.Jupiter is aspecting ascendant though debilitated. > Thus i believe as you have opined if there is a promise,then we could > confirm these by checking the planets aspecting conjoining special > lagnas like Arudha/Ghati/Hora etc. > > Thanks & Respect > Pradeep > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" > <sarajit@s...> wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > You got it right, special lagans only show what nature of the good > > results one would accrue like money, power etc. However this shall > only > > happen when there is a promise in the chart. So only when there is a > > rajayoga in the chart, you can use the special lagans to confirm > what > > form of Rajayoga it is. The extent etc. can be decided on the basis > of > > overall planetary positions in the horoscope. > > > > Do consider AK also in the basic analysis including what you say > from > > Lagna, Chandra Lagna, Navamsa etc. > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep] > > Sunday, November 16, 2003 1:58 AM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Special Lagnas > > > > Dear and respected members > > > > I have read about the importance of special lagnas in analysing > > charts.Apart from sun and moon there are others like Ghati ,Hora > > representing power,wealth etc. > > > > But can we predict something based on just any one of these Lagnas? > > Because of permutation combinations we could always deduct some > > yogas from some of these Lagnas. > > > > Shouldnt these lagnas be used only as an additional > > confirmation.That is if some strength is present from Rashi,Chandra > > and Navamsha Varga, then we could go down to Ghati or Hora or Sree > > etc.Forgive me if i am not correct here. > > > > Because if you get the chart of a popular person you could manage > to > > find some yogas from any of these lagnas and convince using our > > skills.But from an unpopular(this is a vague term!) chart can we > > predict something based on these alone. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Devika, If you dont mind, I will take up your question on Sarajit's behalf. Actually, its a long time since I saw the name of Devika (the legendary film actress Devika Rani springs to my mind)! Congratulations on deciding to learn vedic astrology or Jyotish! My suggestions for learning vedic astrology: Get a few books to start with. PVR Narasimha Rao's book 'Vedic astrology - An integrated approach' is an excellent book for beginners. BV Raman's 'How to judge an horoscope Volumes 1 and 2' is also recommended. Sanjay Rath's books 'Crux of vedic astrology', 'Narayana Dasha' are good books to read after the fundamentals have been mastered (intermediate to advanced level). For in-depth study, Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra (BPHS) translation Vol 1 by Santhanam and Vol 2 by GC Sharma are the bibles to refer for vedic astrology. Good luck! No need to 'desperately' learn; Jyotish is a vast ocean where every one learns to swim at their own pace. However if you feel the need to have a competent teacher, you can search for a Jyotish Guru and request acceptance as a student. I hope you've been patient with me so far, :-). Now to answer your question: Kendras are the 1,4,7 and 10th houses in the horoscope while (tri)konas are the trinal houses 1, 5, 9 with respect to a particular reference point (usually the lagna or birth ascendant). Sarajit quoted a sloka from BPHS to tell that if Rahu or Ketu be in a kendra (ie., in the 1st, 4th, 7th or 10th house from lagna) receiving the aspect of or conjoined with the lord of a trinal house (ie., lord of 1, 5 or 9th house wrt lagna), it will become a yogakaraka. Hope this helps. regards Hari vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon> wrote: > Dear Sarajit, > I am new to Astrology and I barely know few basics > (I am desperately trying to learn), so please be > patient with me. My question is what does Rahu and > Ketu are in Kendra means? > > Thanks > Devika > > --- Sarajit Poddar <sarajit@s...> wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > Dear Anna and Pradeep, > > > > Even BPHS supports the dictum that Rahu with the > > yogakarakas give rise > > to rajayogas vide yoga-karakadyaya (ch 34) sloka > > 16-17, which says > > > > 16. Rahu and Ketu. Rahu and Ketu give predominantly > > the effects, as due > > to their yuti with a Bhava Lord, or, as due to the > > Bhava they occupy. > > 17. If Rahu and/or Ketu are in Kendr, receiving a > > Drishti from, or in > > association with the Lord of a Kon, or of a Kendr, > > it will become Yog > > Karak. > > > > However, I am always skeptical with the planet > > (kendra/ kona lord) which > > joins such Rahu. It starts giving the results of > > Rahu instead. > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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