Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 Om Namah Shivaya Dear Sridhar There are many rules that are given in standard texts about the strength of planets. First of all there are several types of Balas like sthana bala, kala bala, drigbala, digbala, chestabala. Then importantly you must consider the strengths of planets in divisional charts. A planet should not be combust, debilitated etc . These are general and there is more to balas and you learn the same by reading standard texts. regards partha om tat sat vedic astrology, sridhar k <kopparsa> wrote: > Dear Gurus > Namaskar. I was reading PVR excellent Key Chart on Yogas. In some of these it is Stated that If a Planet is STRONG, and then has aspect with another specified planet or Lord of a House, a particular Yoga is formed. > > HOW EXACTLY IS THE STATE OF THE PLANET "STRONG" OR "WEAK" determined for checking the Yogas? > > One knows that a Planet is Strong if it is In Mooltrikona, Own House, or Exaltation. > > In Ramans book, a planet in a "FRIEND'S" is also considered STRONG. > (I believe, I am not wrong in this ) > > Here again a small doubt: Wether to take the Natural Friendship, or Temporary Friendship or the Combined effect of these two types of relationship. > > A clear cut reply on wether, the Friendship is to be considered or Not. If this is considered then wether it should be Natural only or the combined result of Natural and Temporary Friendship. > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 Dear Shridhar, Friendship(Natural) is to be considered. The graha is then said to be "Mudit" or "Hrishta", if the lord of whose he occupies is also temporary friend the strength is increased. For graha's strength many parameters like, aspect of friend,being in own house,being in Mool Triokona, being in Exaltation, being in square or trine in Varga harts, occupying same house in more than one chart etc. have to be considered. Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:03 PM [vedic astrology] Strength of Planet Dear Gurus Namaskar. I was reading PVR excellent Key Chart on Yogas. In some of these it is Stated that If a Planet is STRONG, and then has aspect with another specified planet or Lord of a House, a particular Yoga is formed. HOW EXACTLY IS THE STATE OF THE PLANET "STRONG" OR "WEAK" determined for checking the Yogas? One knows that a Planet is Strong if it is In Mooltrikona, Own House, or Exaltation. In Ramans book, a planet in a "FRIEND'S" is also considered STRONG. (I believe, I am not wrong in this ) Here again a small doubt: Wether to take the Natural Friendship, or Temporary Friendship or the Combined effect of these two types of relationship. A clear cut reply on wether, the Friendship is to be considered or Not. If this is considered then wether it should be Natural only or the combined result of Natural and Temporary Friendship. SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 6/10/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Hello Mr.Zoran, A very great article and students of vedic astrology will surely benefit from it.Please keep us posted about its(book) release.Please do post about other planets too.. Since,a weak sun is supposedly good for spiritual life,does it mean persons with weak sun do well if they are not materialistic? I would like to hear your comments about sun in 9th house of a horoscope?I heard that it is also not a good placement...pls explain [(here sun is in ordinary strength,in taurus (9th house,virgo lagna),while debilitation depositor(venus) is exalted] regards, sunitha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 Thanks a lot for your guidance. I understand that ,according to you, when a planet is said to be STRONG, it ref to the Shbala o the Planet. Please correct me, if my understanding is not correct. I still await a reply from Narasinhagaru, as I want tp correct my sw on finding YOGAS in a chart, using the Definitions given in Dr B V Raman,s book.Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net> wrote: Om Namo Narayanaya,Dear Parta/Sridhar,I am at the moment writting a book in english, which will be presented at the conference in India in 2004 January,The book will give all details about strength/quality and the ways as how to see whether graha is strong/afflictedwhich graha quality and strength is etc. I have taken the terms of Shuba (benefic), Papa (malefic) and Misra (mixed)Yoga and approximately six main streams for determing these. Here is an extract from the book: This is just raw material,and I do hope that it will help:"The sun or surya is the giver of life and light. It rules pitta dosha, agni tatwa and satwa guna. Surya rulers natural 5th house of Kal Purush and is bhav karak for Lagna. Surya rules Self or Atman, transcendental Self and its expression through manas as individual self, ego and character (Jiva) Surya is initator (father) of all Yogas and its strength is necessary to initate all other aspects of kundhali. He is the king in the planetary cabinet and rightly influences all powerful figures and government. Due to his satwic qualities he is never naturally malevolent, but is termed "crura" or cruel with capacity to combast various points in kundhali with his intense heat. He is for that reason never malefic for marriage and children unless in neecha/debilitation position.It is important to understand that graha may have the following qualities/states:1. STRONG- when we say that graha is strong we often think in terms of Baal or more precisely Shad Bal or sixfold strength (see the following chapters)2. WEAK- this is opposite to the strong. Weak graha is in low bal (shadbal)3. AFFLICTED (PAPA YOGA)- afflicted graha is graha which is in yuti/dristi with natural malefics or lords of malefic houses. Further, graha is also afflicted when found in unfavourable avastas or states, unfavourable movements or certain degrees (sandhis/mrityubhaga)4. WELL PLACED (SHUBA YOGA)- graha is said to be well placed when in yuti/dristi with natural benefics. It is also well placed when found in good avastas and good houses. Now, when we analyze the sun or surya, it is important to state the influnce of surya when found in all these states:1. STRONG SURYA- Strong surya indicates strength to his own karakatwas as well as houses ruled by it. Therefore, strong surya will give strong self, strong father, strong ego and individuality, strong position and influence, considerable effects upon surroundings, strong chances of having children particularly in male charts (surya rules natural 5th house in kal purush, and is known as father/precognitor). Further, creativity and intelligence will be high, personal power and magnetism is pronounced, there is strong will and determination, strong body and robust health and spiritual evolution may be pronounced. In this manner, all aspects of Agni tatwa will be pronunced and expressed. Since, surya represents the natural 5th house and is bhav karak for the 1st house being natural atmakarak, strong position of this graha will add strength to the 1st and 5th houses in all charts.2. WEAK SURYA- this is completely opposite situation, so the self will be weak, as well as ego (this may be good in spiritual kundhali), father may be weak or suffer, the person may suffer at the hands of government and infleuntial figures or law, there will be weakness in individuality, as well as personal power, magnetism and lack of self-will. There will be personal dependence, weakness in character, low position, creativity and intelligence. Chances of having children will be low, while there will be indecisiveness, lack of strenth to cope with life faults, weak body and low immune system. There will be weakness in Agni tatwa and lack of pitta infleunce. All houses ruled by sun may suffer from weakness, which may be good only in case of surya rulership of dusthana (bad) houses. Due to surya being bhav karak for 1st house and natural 5th house, in case of surya weakness, these houses will suffer setback in each kundhali.3. AFFLICTED SURYA-yet to be written4. WELL PLACED SURYA- yet to be writtenThe problem most often arises when we have mixed situation, which is most often the case. Such situation is called MISRA YOGA (mixed infleunce). We may have the following situation in the chart: Strong but afflicted sun, or weak and well placed sun, or afflicted and weak sun ruling good houses etc. We should then use our power of judgement and decide the effects accordingly. Sage Satyacharya said in his immortal classic Satya Jatakam that the astrologer should use his/her own intelligence to judge the results. Here is a kundhali with example analyses:Surya is in 8th house ruling 11th house. It is in neutral dignity, while avastas are deen,kumar and vikhal. Shadbal is very strong (8.2 rupas), ishta phal is predominant, while vimsopak bal is ordinary (54 %). There is no malefic nor benefic dristi. This is a clear case of MISRA YOGA. We should first decide on the positive/ negative sides of surya. See the table:Graha POSITIVE NEGATIVESURYA Kumar avasta, strong shadbal, good ishta Deen and Vikhal avasta, placement in 8th houseDue to strong surya, all aspects of self, father, and what we stated above will be strongly felt in native's life. However, deen and vikhal avasta will give some affliction to the sun, such as too much anger, ego problems, vanity, arogance, pride, bodily problems, pitta disorders, troubles to father and in relationship with father, problems with superiors etc. There is good avasta(kumar) which will give some good effects and prevent complete collapse, since the negative avastas (affliction predominates). Placement in the 8th house will create personal vulnarabilities, weakness in father's life, huge transformations, debts, poor finance, and professinal oscillations etc. Since sun rules 11th house, gains and fulfilment will be strong, yet will suffer some ups-downs, and will manifest through hard work and later in life with delays (dustana). Due to bad avastas, 11th house will suffer some affliction in quality not the quantity since shadbal is good. Elder sister will suffer problems, will have chronic disease (11th house -elder sister plus 8th house of chronic illness) particularly with pitta/agni or bones, there will be disappointments in friends etc. The situation will not collapse due to strong sun and other positive quality. Now, let us see how it looks in practice. The person has a living father and livng sister (Surya as karak for father and ruler of 11th is strong in shadbal). She is separated from father and the relationship with sister is not so good. Furether sister is suffering from bone (pitta) disorders, while the father is not well placed in life. This is due to bad avasta and 8th house placement of sun as 11th lord. Since surya is not in any way too much connected with Lagna (person), these effects will be mostly felt by sister as surya rules 11th house of elder siblings. The person herself has good health, yet gains keep oscilate due to the wrath of superiors.Elder sister has chronic bone/spine troubles and suffers from deep transfromation and vulnerabilities. This is the clear example of how we should mix various infleunces together. Another way of ascertaining the quality of sun is related to his exaltant and debilitant dispositors. Whever we analyze Surya, it is important to consider the strength and position of Mangal (surya is exalted in mesh, mangal sign), and Shukra (surya is debilitated in thula, shukra sign). It is for that reason that Mangal -Shukra conjunction/yuti/dristi is termed as Rudra Yoga, or planetary combination which may cut short longevity or give accidents/illness or dangers. Rudra Yoga has of course other good qualities, such as good position, finance etc. Thus, we may see that Mangal and Shukra can significantly infleunce the intensity of good or bad karakatwas of Surya. If Mangal as ruler of exaltation rashi is well placed, surya will express best energies, while weakness of shukra as well as her affliction will make surya express worst energies. The question arises as why debilitant dispositor should be strong and well placed? It is because he may cause neech bhang yoga which may uplift graha energies and substitute its weakness. Have a look at this principle illustrated by shani.In this chart, shani is placed in 7th house in own sign in the following avastas.....Shani in yuti with Ketu is known as Jar Yoga of promiscious behaviour and problems with partners/marriage. Further shani is aspected by neech Mangal his debilitant dispositor. Yet, we have shukra as exalltant dispositor (shani is exalted in thula, shukra' s sign) placed in 9th house in exaltation. The lady met her lady love at the collage days (Shukra in 9th) and has excellent and stable marriage with a loving husband. They both practice meditation and learn Jyotish, and are well grounded in spiritual path. But for the shukra exaltation as natural karak and ruler of exaltation sign of shani who is placed in 7th house, the 7th house affairs would be bitter and dissapointing.In this manner, apart from 4 basic criteria for graha judgement, it is necessary to examine both dispositors/rulers of exaltation and debilitation signs." html banner|**| --> Sponsor Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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