Guest guest Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 Dear Mr. Vishwanatham, I have Vargottama lagna. Although physical strength is not really my strong point , I do indeed have strong beliefs and faith that gives me a fighting spirit to overcome hurdles. Maybe that is why my grandfather, who cast my Kundli, told my mother that there was "dasha", i.e. "potential" for me. Could you please explain Satabdika dasha? I've never heard of this. My birth data is: 6 october 1967, 12:40 AM 78E28, 17N23 Regards, Venkatrama vedic astrology, H S Viswanadham <vishwanatham@r...> wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna > > Daer all, > > In case of a vargottama lagna, Satabdika dasa is applicable for the native. (From Vimshottari & Udu dasas by Pt Rath). > > The native will have strong ideals & beliefs and the Lagna functions like Mritunjaya Mantra & protects the native from all calamities. (from the same book). > > So the native is likely to be brave & physically strong, based on the planets in trines to Lagna. > > Hope this helps. > > regards > viswanadham > > onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote: > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Dear Sai, > > If the lagna is vargottama, then the native is physically strong > (ie., capable of working long hours, capable of withstanding the > various troubles in their lives, with a never-say-die attitude etc). > > If you have a few cases like this, kindly let me know if my > observation fits or not... > > regards > Hari > > vedic astrology, "Saikumar" > wrote: > > > > Dear Guru Chandrashekar ji, > > What if the lagna itself is Vargottam(Rasi,Navamsa and some > divisional > > charts). What is the inference then. Do we look at Lagna lord's > placement or > > how do we reckon the results of Vargottama then. > > Regards, > > Sai > > > > Chandrashekhar > > 2003/12/27 00:37:02 > > vedic astrology > > Cc: > > Ji) > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > In a way you are right. A planet that is Vargottam also generally > gives > > good results next to Exalted planet. The nature of results will > depend > > on the house he is posited in, his own house lordships and other > > modifying factors as usual. > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > Thanks for your valuable input.I will try to dig more into the > topic > > > for my understanding.Yes Navamsha is considered as the most > > > important division.Even vargottama is based on Navamsha.Though > > > Gopuramsha,Simhasanamsha etc are there Vargottama is considered > as > > > best to confirm about the true manifestation of a planet in a > > > prticular rashi.Thus my understanding about Vargottama is, it > does > > > not signify good or bad.It just reconfirms that the concerned > > > planet will give complete results by virtue of its placement in a > > > particular Rashi.Kindly confirm. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Pradeep > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar > > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > As you know planets are more powerful in certain degrees in a > > > Rasi. Now > > > > the very relationship of the Lord of the Rasi would indicate > where > > > each > > > > planet's degrees of power would lie.The degrees that a planet > is > > > in > > > > strength is not based merely on less number of degrees or more > > > number of > > > > degrees but is planet specific too. The Vargas divisions are > > > probably > > > > based on that principle coupled with the nakshatra Charana > Lord or > > > > Nakhshatra lord and his relation to the Rasi lord, according to > > > the > > > > Varga concerned. Navamsha Varga divisions are based on the > > > Nakshatra > > > > Charana Lord and as such is given much importance to the > extent > > > that in > > > > most of the shlokas when the sages say Amsha it generally > refers t > > > > Navamsha. Of course this is my personal opinion and logic and > > > those more > > > > learned than me might hold different views on the subject. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > I was bit curious about the logic behind divisions within a > > > > > Rashi.Each rashi can be divided further into 9,10,24,60 etc > > > starting > > > > > from aries until pisces and then aries again.Have you come > across > > > > > any reasons for this during ur experiments with astrology.I > have > > > > > asked a qstn cpl of days back addressed to Narasimha > Raoji.It is > > > > > difficult to find logic behind every usage and may not be > needed > > > as > > > > > well.Still just out of curiousity.Becuase this could help us > > > > > understand the validity of aspects within divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sathiyanarayana, > > > > > > Since you know the source where it is available, find out > if > > > > > Uttara > > > > > > Parasaryam is available. If so, it could also be a > commentary > > > on > > > > > Brihat > > > > > > Parashara Hora Shastra. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sathiyanarayana Gupta wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri. Chandrashekhar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your advices, now I understand that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ' POORVA PARASARYAM ' is available at > > > > > > > SARASWATHY MAHAL at Thanjavour , Tamil Nadu > > > > > > > INDIA. > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > D. Sathiyanarayana Gupta . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sathiyanarayana, > > > > > > > Not having read the text, I can not comment on it. > > > However > > > > > as the > > > > > > > name > > > > > > > suggests it might be a compilation of various > shlokas, > > > > > supposed to be > > > > > > > written/recited prior to the days of Parashara. > There not > > > > > being any > > > > > > > Uttara Parasaryam, it obviously is not first Skanda > of > > > > > texts/shlokas > > > > > > > attributed to Parashara. Or at least this is what I > would > > > > > infer > > > > > > > from the > > > > > > > title of the text. > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sathiyanarayana Gupta wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vishwanadham, > > > > > > > > Thank you. Various pravartakas elaborated upon > the > > > > > divine > > > > > > > science > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > is said to have descended from the Lord > Mahadeo. > > > They > > > > > did > > > > > > > not , in > > > > > > > > fact, > > > > > > > > give different systems. What each did was give > > > > > different > > > > > > > > perspectives, > > > > > > > > on the basis of the same basics. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately astrologers started giving one or > > > other > > > > > Rishi the > > > > > > > > credit > > > > > > > > as originator of Jyotish and started swearing > by > > > one > > > > > system or > > > > > > > > another. > > > > > > > > The fact that none of the Gurus or their direct > > > > > shishya lineage, > > > > > > > > who had > > > > > > > > the advantage of learning from their Guru, is > > > > > available to > > > > > > > explain > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > true meaning of shlokas has added to the > confusion. > > > > > One has > > > > > > > also to > > > > > > > > understand that many sages of same name wrote > > > different > > > > > > > Vedangas. > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > has led many to ascribe the authorship of the > > > text > > > > > favoured by > > > > > > > > one to > > > > > > > > the most ancient of them and thus claiming the > > > text to > > > > > be the > > > > > > > > origin of > > > > > > > > Jyotish. It is very well to equate Surya > mentioned > > > as > > > > > one of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > pravartakas but the fact remains that it might > be > > > > > reference > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > writer of Surya Siddhanta and so on. Sages were > > > > > refered to > > > > > > > by their > > > > > > > > Gotra, place of residence and even their > colour, > > > > > different > > > > > > > names > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > used to describe the same person. This should > not > > > be > > > > > forgotten. > > > > > > > > Many a > > > > > > > > times titles were conferred upon them and > > > therefore, > > > > > that it is > > > > > > > > difficult to establish antiquity of the Sages > > > remains > > > > > a fact. > > > > > > > > There are also different versions of the same > > > texts in > > > > > > > > circulation. It > > > > > > > > might be fashionable to claim to be follower > of one > > > > > system or > > > > > > > > other, but > > > > > > > > the fact remains that Jyotish is based on sound > > > > > principles > > > > > > > and all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > sages gave instructions in words that they > thought > > > > > their > > > > > > > students > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > comprehend better. This is why you will find > the > > > texts > > > > > referring > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > opinion of others with equal respect. > > > > > > > > As I said earlier one should follow the system > > > that he > > > > > has > > > > > > > understood > > > > > > > > the basics of, and can apply them to real life > > > > > horoscopes. > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > Dear pedagogues, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kindly elucidate as to wheather 'POORVA > > > PARASARYAM' is > > > > > the > > > > > > > > teachings of POOJYASHRI. sage PARASARA to his > > > > > disciples or > > > > > > > > otherwise . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May DEVA GURU'S blessings shall dawn on us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > H S Viswanadham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrasekhar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your longish mails are very informative. Pls > keep > > > > > writing > > > > > > > longish > > > > > > > > > ones. At the end of the last mail you were > > > saying it > > > > > > > became too > > > > > > > > long. > > > > > > > > > It was a good mail. Now your clarification is > > > still > > > > > better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i also feel that people using True nodes > & using > > > > > different > > > > > > > > ayanamsas > > > > > > > > > are sticking to their own basics ( if i may > say > > > so!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From what you said, can we speculate that the > > > other > > > > > Rishis > > > > > > > whose > > > > > > > > works > > > > > > > > > are lost were using different 'systems'. > What > > > could > > > > > be > > > > > > > the root of > > > > > > > > > all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks and best regards > > > > > > > > > viswanadham > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > */Anna /* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar, > > > > > > > > > I have read carefully.. > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anna, > > > > > > > > > I am sorry that you appear to be > shocked > > > > > with my > > > > > > > opinions. I > > > > > > > > > would like > > > > > > > > > you to read what I have said > carefully > > > > > again. You > > > > > > > will find > > > > > > > > > that I have > > > > > > > > > already clarified that one should > use the > > > > > system > > > > > > > that one is > > > > > > > > > comfortable > > > > > > > > > with, and have also said that > different > > > > > Rishis > > > > > > > devised > > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > > > systems. If you read the mail in its > > > > > entirety, you > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > understand that > > > > > > > > > I am not saying anything > contradictory > > > to > > > > > what is > > > > > > > > taught,but > > > > > > > > > am trying > > > > > > > > > to indicate how the teachings are to > be > > > > > used. I merely > > > > > > > > say that > > > > > > > > > application of different system > without > > > > > > > understanding the > > > > > > > > > logic behind > > > > > > > > > them could lead one to a wrong > > > prediction. > > > > > An example > > > > > > > > would be > > > > > > > > > Prashna > > > > > > > > > Marga of deciding Aarudha based on > the > > > > > location of the > > > > > > > > querist > > > > > > > > > or his > > > > > > > > > placing a piece of Gold on a > particular > > > > > direction > > > > > > > on the > > > > > > > > > circular chart. > > > > > > > > > Now would you say Aarudha arrived at > by > > > this > > > > > > > method can > > > > > > > > use the > > > > > > > > > principles of Aarudha defined by > > > Parashara > > > > > and one > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > arrive at > > > > > > > > > correct predictions? Or can Aarudha > > > arrived > > > > > at by > > > > > > > using > > > > > > > > Parashara > > > > > > > > > principles will give correct > predictions > > > > > when it > > > > > > > is used to > > > > > > > > > arrive at > > > > > > > > > conclusions based on the results > given in > > > > > Prashna > > > > > > > Marga? > > > > > > > > I am > > > > > > > > > certain > > > > > > > > > you will not. Similarly can Gulika > and > > > > > Mandi at > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > > > points of > > > > > > > > > reference be used when applying > Jaataka > > > > > Paarijata > > > > > > > > parameters, > > > > > > > > > when the > > > > > > > > > text states specifically that they > are > > > > > synonyms of > > > > > > > the same > > > > > > > > > upagraha? > > > > > > > > > The logic behind what I wrote will be > > > clear > > > > > to you. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > Anna wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar, > > > > > > > > > > You raised serious issues here, > > > indeed. I > > > > > just > > > > > > > copied some > > > > > > > > > parts, > > > > > > > > > > although the entire post questions > in > > > fact > > > > > all we've > > > > > > > > learnt > > > > > > > > > here, so far. > > > > > > > > > > You said:*_You can not apply say > > > Metric > > > > > system to > > > > > > > > > manufacture a bolt > > > > > > > > > > and BSW for the nut , they would > never > > > fit > > > > > > > properly._* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You imply that wrt. rashi dristi, > > > aroodas, > > > > > that > > > > > > > we are > > > > > > > > > thought to use > > > > > > > > > > along with graha dristi etc..I feel > > > this is > > > > > > > rather serious > > > > > > > > > and wish if > > > > > > > > > > could see more comments on this- > this > > > is > > > > > in fact > > > > > > > the first > > > > > > > > > time I see > > > > > > > > > > on THIS list such a view; > implications > > > > > would be > > > > > > > > far-reaching > > > > > > > > > with lots > > > > > > > > > > of fundamental questions raised. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *There are many systems based on > the > > > > > experience > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > > Rishis, who > > > > > > > > > > formulated them...* > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > * one > > > > > > > > > > predicts on the basis of Planet > drishty > > > > > and when the > > > > > > > > > prediction goes > > > > > > > > > > wrong one takes recourse to > explaining > > > > > away the > > > > > > > reason of > > > > > > > > > the failure by > > > > > > > > > > application of Rasi drishty. 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Guest guest Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 Dear Sastry, How is your health? Robust or weak? Pt Rath wrote a book on Vimshottari & Udu dasas. If you can, pls read it. i would have looked at your chart, but... you mentioned your time of birth as 12.40 AM !? You meant 0.40 early hours (a.m) or 12.40 past noon (p.m). pls clarify. pls attach .jhd chart, if you can. Otherwise mention your Janma Nakshatra with pada, if it is 0.40 early hours. regards viswanadham venkatarama_sastry <venkatarama_sastry > wrote: Dear Mr. Vishwanatham,I have Vargottama lagna. Although physical strength is not really my strong point , I do indeed have strong beliefs and faith that gives me a fighting spirit to overcome hurdles. Maybe that is why my grandfather, who cast my Kundli, told my mother that there was "dasha", i.e. "potential" for me. Could you please explain Satabdika dasha? I've never heard of this. My birth data is: 6 october 1967, 12:40 AM78E28, 17N23Regards,Venkatrama--- In vedic astrology, H S Viswanadham wrote:> Hare Rama Krishna> > Daer all,> > In case of a vargottama lagna, Satabdika dasa is applicable for the native. (From Vimshottari & Udu dasas by Pt Rath). > > The native will have strong ideals & beliefs and the Lagna functions like Mritunjaya Mantra & protects the native from all calamities. (from the same book).> > So the native is likely to be brave & physically strong, based on the planets in trines to Lagna.> > Hope this helps.> > regards> viswanadham > > onlyhari wrote:> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||> > Dear Sai,> > If the lagna is vargottama, then the native is physically strong > (ie., capable of working long hours, capable of withstanding the > various troubles in their lives, with a never-say-die attitude etc).> > If you have a few cases like this, kindly let me know if my > observation fits or not...> > regards> Hari> > vedic astrology, "Saikumar" > wrote:> > > > Dear Guru Chandrashekar ji, > > What if the lagna itself is Vargottam(Rasi,Navamsa and some > divisional> > charts). What is the inference then. Do we look at Lagna lord's > placement or> > how do we reckon the results of Vargottama then. > > Regards, > > Sai> > > > Chandrashekhar > > 2003/12/27 00:37:02> > To: vedic astrology> > Cc: > > Ji)> > > > Dear Pradeep,> > In a way you are right. A planet that is Vargottam also generally > gives > > good results next to Exalted planet. The nature of results will > depend > > on the house he is posited in, his own house lordships and other > > modifying factors as usual.> > Chandrashekhar.> > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:> > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji> > >> > > Thanks for your valuable input.I will try to dig more into the > topic> > > for my understanding.Yes Navamsha is considered as the most> > > important division.Even vargottama is based on Navamsha.Though> > > Gopuramsha,Simhasanamsha etc are there Vargottama is considered > as> > > best to confirm about the true manifestation of a planet in a> > > prticular rashi.Thus my understanding about Vargottama is, it > does> > > not signify good or bad.It just reconfirms that the concerned > > > planet will give complete results by virtue of its placement in a> > > particular Rashi.Kindly confirm.> > >> > > Thanks> > > Pradeep> > > --- In vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar > > > > wrote:> > > > Dear Pradeep,> > > > As you know planets are more powerful in certain degrees in a> > > Rasi. Now> > > > the very relationship of the Lord of the Rasi would indicate > where> > > each> > > > planet's degrees of power would lie.The degrees that a planet > is> > > in> > > > strength is not based merely on less number of degrees or more> > > number of> > > > degrees but is planet specific too. The Vargas divisions are> > > probably> > > > based on that principle coupled with the nakshatra Charana > Lord or> > > > Nakhshatra lord and his relation to the Rasi lord, according to> > > the> > > > Varga concerned. Navamsha Varga divisions are based on the> > > Nakshatra> > > > Charana Lord and as such is given much importance to the > extent> > > that in> > > > most of the shlokas when the sages say Amsha it generally > refers t> > > > Navamsha. Of course this is my personal opinion and logic and> > > those more> > > > learned than me might hold different views on the subject.> > > > Hope this helps.> > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > >> > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:> > > >> > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji> > > > >> > > > > I was bit curious about the logic behind divisions within a> > > > > Rashi.Each rashi can be divided further into 9,10,24,60 etc> > > starting> > > > > from aries until pisces and then aries again.Have you come > across> > > > > any reasons for this during ur experiments with astrology.I > have> > > > > asked a qstn cpl of days back addressed to Narasimha > Raoji.It is> > > > > difficult to find logic behind every usage and may not be > needed> > > as> > > > > well.Still just out of curiousity.Becuase this could help us> > > > > understand the validity of aspects within divisional charts.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks in advance> > > > > Pradeep> > > > >> > > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Sathiyanarayana,> > > > > > Since you know the source where it is available, find out > if> > > > > Uttara> > > > > > Parasaryam is available. If so, it could also be a > commentary> > > on> > > > > Brihat> > > > > > Parashara Hora Shastra.> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > >> > > > > > Sathiyanarayana Gupta wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear shri. Chandrashekhar,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thank you for your advices, now I understand that> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ' POORVA PARASARYAM ' is available at> > > > > > > SARASWATHY MAHAL at Thanjavour , Tamil Nadu> > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > > D. Sathiyanarayana Gupta .> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Sathiyanarayana,> > > > > > > Not having read the text, I can not comment on it.> > > However> > > > > as the> > > > > > > name> > > > > > > suggests it might be a compilation of various > shlokas,> > > > > supposed to be> > > > > > > written/recited prior to the days of Parashara. > There not> > > > > being any> > > > > > > Uttara Parasaryam, it obviously is not first Skanda > of> > > > > texts/shlokas> > > > > > > attributed to Parashara. Or at least this is what I > would> > > > > infer> > > > > > > from the> > > > > > > title of the text.> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sathiyanarayana Gupta wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Vishwanadham,> > > > > > > > Thank you. Various pravartakas elaborated upon > the> > > > > divine> > > > > > > science> > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > is said to have descended from the Lord > Mahadeo.> > > They> > > > > did> > > > > > > not , in> > > > > > > > fact,> > > > > > > > give different systems. What each did was give> > > > > different> > > > > > > > perspectives,> > > > > > > > on the basis of the same basics.> > > > > > > > Unfortunately astrologers started giving one or> > > other> > > > > Rishi the> > > > > > > > credit> > > > > > > > as originator of Jyotish and started swearing > by> > > one> > > > > system or> > > > > > > > another.> > > > > > > > The fact that none of the Gurus or their direct> > > > > shishya lineage,> > > > > > > > who had> > > > > > > > the advantage of learning from their Guru, is> > > > > available to> > > > > > > explain> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > true meaning of shlokas has added to the > confusion.> > > > > One has> > > > > > > also to> > > > > > > > understand that many sages of same name wrote> > > different> > > > > > > Vedangas.> > > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > has led many to ascribe the authorship of the> > > text> > > > > favoured by> > > > > > > > one to> > > > > > > > the most ancient of them and thus claiming the> > > text to> > > > > be the> > > > > > > > origin of> > > > > > > > Jyotish. It is very well to equate Surya > mentioned> > > as> > > > > one of> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > pravartakas but the fact remains that it might > be> > > > > reference> > > > > > > to the> > > > > > > > writer of Surya Siddhanta and so on. Sages were> > > > > refered to> > > > > > > by their> > > > > > > > Gotra, place of residence and even their > colour,> > > > > different> > > > > > > names> > > > > > > > being> > > > > > > > used to describe the same person. This should > not> > > be> > > > > forgotten.> > > > > > > > Many a> > > > > > > > times titles were conferred upon them and> > > therefore,> > > > > that it is> > > > > > > > difficult to establish antiquity of the Sages> > > remains> > > > > a fact.> > > > > > > > There are also different versions of the same> > > texts in> > > > > > > > circulation. It> > > > > > > > might be fashionable to claim to be follower > of one> > > > > system or> > > > > > > > other, but> > > > > > > > the fact remains that Jyotish is based on sound> > > > > principles> > > > > > > and all> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > sages gave instructions in words that they > thought> > > > > their> > > > > > > students> > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > comprehend better. This is why you will find > the> > > texts> > > > > referring> > > > > > > > to the> > > > > > > > opinion of others with equal respect.> > > > > > > > As I said earlier one should follow the system> > > that he> > > > > has> > > > > > > understood> > > > > > > > the basics of, and can apply them to real life> > > > > horoscopes.> > > > > > > > Hope this helps.> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > > > Dear pedagogues,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > kindly elucidate as to wheather 'POORVA> > > PARASARYAM' is> > > > > the> > > > > > > > teachings of POOJYASHRI. sage PARASARA to his> > > > > disciples or> > > > > > > > otherwise .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > May DEVA GURU'S blessings shall dawn on us.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > H S Viswanadham wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrasekhar Ji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Your longish mails are very informative. Pls > keep> > > > > writing> > > > > > > longish> > > > > > > > > ones. At the end of the last mail you were> > > saying it> > > > > > > became too> > > > > > > > long.> > > > > > > > > It was a good mail. Now your clarification is> > > still> > > > > better.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > i also feel that people using True nodes > & using> > > > > different> > > > > > > > ayanamsas> > > > > > > > > are sticking to their own basics ( if i may > say> > > so!).> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > From what you said, can we speculate that the> > > other> > > > > Rishis> > > > > > > whose> > > > > > > > works> > > > > > > > > are lost were using different 'systems'. > What> > > could> > > > > be> > > > > > > the root of> > > > > > > > > all this?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Many thanks and best regards> > > > > > > > > viswanadham> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > */Anna /* wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar,> > > > > > > > > I have read carefully..> > > > > > > > > Thank you.> > > > > > > > > Anna> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Anna,> > > > > > > > > I am sorry that you appear to be > shocked> > > > > with my> > > > > > > opinions. I> > > > > > > > > would like> > > > > > > > > you to read what I have said > carefully> > > > > again. You> > > > > > > will find> > > > > > > > > that I have> > > > > > > > > already clarified that one should > use the> > > > > system> > > > > > > that one is> > > > > > > > > comfortable> > > > > > > > > with, and have also said that > different> > > > > Rishis> > > > > > > devised> > > > > > > > different> > > > > > > > > systems. If you read the mail in its> > > > > entirety, you> > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > understand that> > > > > > > > > I am not saying anything > contradictory> > > to> > > > > what is> > > > > > > > taught,but> > > > > > > > > am trying> > > > > > > > > to indicate how the teachings are to > be> > > > > used. I merely> > > > > > > > say that> > > > > > > > > application of different system > without> > > > > > > understanding the> > > > > > > > > logic behind> > > > > > > > > them could lead one to a wrong> > > prediction.> > > > > An example> > > > > > > > would be> > > > > > > > > Prashna> > > > > > > > > Marga of deciding Aarudha based on > the> > > > > location of the> > > > > > > > querist> > > > > > > > > or his> > > > > > > > > placing a piece of Gold on a > particular> > > > > direction> > > > > > > on the> > > > > > > > > circular chart.> > > > > > > > > Now would you say Aarudha arrived at > by> > > this> > > > > > > method can> > > > > > > > use the> > > > > > > > > principles of Aarudha defined by> > > Parashara> > > > > and one> > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > arrive at> > > > > > > > > correct predictions? Or can Aarudha> > > arrived> > > > > at by> > > > > > > using> > > > > > > > Parashara> > > > > > > > > principles will give correct > predictions> > > > > when it> > > > > > > is used to> > > > > > > > > arrive at> > > > > > > > > conclusions based on the results > given in> > > > > Prashna> > > > > > > Marga?> > > > > > > > I am> > > > > > > > > certain> > > > > > > > > you will not. Similarly can Gulika > and> > > > > Mandi at> > > > > > > different> > > > > > > > > points of> > > > > > > > > reference be used when applying > Jaataka> > > > > Paarijata> > > > > > > > parameters,> > > > > > > > > when the> > > > > > > > > text states specifically that they > are> > > > > synonyms of> > > > > > > the same> > > > > > > > > upagraha?> > > > > > > > > The logic behind what I wrote will be> > > clear> > > > > to you.> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > > > > Anna wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar,> > > > > > > > > > You raised serious issues here,> > > indeed. I> > > > > just> > > > > > > copied some> > > > > > > > > parts,> > > > > > > > > > although the entire post questions > in> > > fact> > > > > all we've> > > > > > > > learnt> > > > > > > > > here, so far.> > > > > > > > > > You said:*_You can not apply say > > > Metric> > > > > system to> > > > > > > > > manufacture a bolt> > > > > > > > > > and BSW for the nut , they would > never> > > fit> > > > > > > properly._*> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > You imply that wrt. rashi dristi,> > > aroodas,> > > > > that> > > > > > > we are> > > > > > > > > thought to use> > > > > > > > > > along with graha dristi etc..I feel> > > this is> > > > > > > rather serious> > > > > > > > > and wish if> > > > > > > > > > could see more comments on this- > this> > > is> > > > > in fact> > > > > > > the first> > > > > > > > > time I see> > > > > > > > > > on THIS list such a view; > implications> > > > > would be> > > > > > > > far-reaching> > > > > > > > > with lots> > > > > > > > > > of fundamental questions raised.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thank You.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Best regards,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Anna> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > *There are many systems based on > the> > > > > experience> > > > > > > of the> > > > > > > > > Rishis, who> > > > > > > > > > formulated them...*> > > > > > > > > > **> > > > > > > > > > * one> > > > > > > > > > predicts on the basis of Planet > drishty> > > > > and when the> > > > > > > > > prediction goes> > > > > > > > > > wrong one takes recourse to > explaining> > > > > away the> > > > > > > reason of> > > > > > > > > the failure by> > > > > > > > > > application of Rasi drishty. Same > is> > > the> > > > > case> > > > > > > with use of> > > > > > > > > Aarudhas,> > > > > > > > > > Karakamsha, Divisional charts etc. > One> > > > > should have a> > > > > > > > uniform> > > > > > > > > approach to> > > > > > > > > > any chart one analyses. _You can > not> > > apply> > > > > say> > > > > > > Metric> > > > > > > > system to> > > > > > > > > > manufacture a bolt and BSW for the> > > nut ,> > > > > they> > > > > > > would never> > > > > > > > > fit properly._> > > > > > > > > > *> > > > > > > > > > **> > > > > > > > > > *Not much work has been done on> > > Aarudhas> > > > > and other> > > > > > > > > parameters even by the> > > > > > > > > > ancient sages and ...This does not > mean> > > > > that the> > > > > > > concept> > > > > > > > > carries no> > > > > > > > > > substance, only that> > > > > > > > > > exahaustive work has not been done > on> > > this> > > > > aspect.> > > > > > > > _Even the> > > > > > > > > major yogas> > > > > > > > > > are not based on these concept and > as> > > such> > > > > it is> > > > > > > difficult> > > > > > > > > to know the> > > > > > > > > > correct method of their > application._> > > It> > > > > is very> > > > > > > well> > > > > > > > to wax> > > > > > > > > eloquent on> > > > > > > > > > their applicability and the > principles> > > > > behind such> > > > > > > > practice,> > > > > > > > > it is> > > > > > > > > > another matter giving Authentic > quotes> > > from> > > > > > > standard texts> > > > > > > > > to support> > > > > > > > > > the premise.> > > > > > > > > > *> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------> ----> > > ----> > > > > -----------> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Photos - easier > uploading> > > and> > > > > sharing> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > .>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Archives:> > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Group info:> > > > > > > > > vedic-> > > > > astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ........ 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Guest guest Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Wow, Mr. Vishwanatham! That was good. Yes, indeed I did my Masters in the US, and am settled here in the US now. How did you know? I have a bachelors degree in Electrical Engineering from India, and Masters in Computer Science from US. I am working in technology - first software developer, now systems analyst. Previously I was in telecommunications industry, now I am in healthcare industry, still on the technical side. Does this help your analysis? As far as my focus area, in my personal life (other than work and family, I mean), my hobbies are mostly reading science & religion, and occasionally painting & singing/veena. I am eager to learn more. Thank you for your teachings! -Venkat vedic astrology, H S Viswanadham <vishwanatham@r...> wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Venkat, > > Pt rath in his book described 9 conditional dasas and the conditions have a heirarchy. If we meet the conditions in the first dasa, then we do not look any further. > > Conditional dasas are useful to identify the focus area of the native in his/her life and to time events. > > In your case we thought Satabdika dasa was applicable, because of Vargottama Lagna. > > On a closer look, in your case the first one i.e. Ashtottari dasa is applicable. > > Rahu is in kendra to your lagna lord and your's is a night birth in Sukla paksha. Therefore, the above dasa is applicable. > > Now the focus area is export of goods, services & religion. (something indigenous to a foreign country) > > Tell me which one of this fits you? Which field are you working in? > > It could be that you did your masters/ doctorate in a foreign country and settled there. > > Honestly, i do not know much about this dasa. Working on your chart we can learn more about it. > > regards > viswanadham > > > > > > venkatarama_sastry <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > Dear Mr. Vishwanatham, > > You are right, it is 0.40 early hours, in the AM. My mistake for > writing 12:40, that was confusing. > > Janma Nakshatra is Swati, in 3rd Pada. > > My health is very good now, although I sufferred from low BP 10 - 11 > years back. > > I will try to obtain Pt Rath's book, thank you sir. > > Venkat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Dear Viswanadham Ji how do you narrow down the focus Area? Does the Rahu/Lagna Lord conjunction/aspect has something to do with 6,9,12 houses? Since you identified the focus area as export of goods, services & religion. I am curious to know as for me also Ashtottari is applicable where Ra conjoins Ve in 7th house and birth is Krishna dwitiya Day time. I beleive in my case the focus area should be Business/partnerships. I will give more info when you confirm. Thanks and with best regards L Brahma >"venkatarama_sastry" <venkatarama_sastry >vedic astrology >vedic astrology >[vedic astrology] Re: Vargottama lagna - doubt >Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:41:41 -0000 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Originating-IP: 216.221.245.80 >X-Sender: venkatarama_sastry >Received: from n23.grp.scd. ([66.218.66.79]) by >mc3-f27.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 30 Dec 2003 >07:41:51 -0800 >Received: from [66.218.66.97] by n23.grp.scd. with NNFMP; 30 Dec >2003 15:41:47 -0000 >Received: (qmail 13805 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2003 15:41:44 -0000 >Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m14.grp.scd. with QMQP; >30 Dec 2003 15:41:44 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO n6.grp.scd.) (66.218.66.90) by >mta6.grp.scd. with SMTP; 30 Dec 2003 15:41:43 -0000 >Received: from [66.218.66.122] by n6.grp.scd. with NNFMP; 30 Dec >2003 15:41:43 -0000 >X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jFeiB2FLczsqGXGDCuRMnQz >X-eGroups-Return: >sentto-1229044-33684-1072798906-lbrahma=hotmail.com >X-Apparently-vedic astrology >Message-ID: <bss6bl+mq0c (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> >In-<20031230152128.84492.qmail >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 >X-Mailer: Message Poster >X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.90 >X--Profile: venkatarama_sastry >Mailing-List: list vedic astrology; contact >vedic astrology-owner >Delivered-mailing list vedic astrology >Precedence: bulk >List-Un: <vedic astrology> >Return-Path: >sentto-1229044-33684-1072798906-lbrahma=hotmail.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Dec 2003 15:41:51.0085 (UTC) >FILETIME=[7159C1D0:01C3CEEB] > >Wow, Mr. Vishwanatham! That was good. Yes, indeed I did my Masters >in the US, and am settled here in the US now. How did you know? I >have a bachelors degree in Electrical Engineering from India, and >Masters in Computer Science from US. I am working in technology - >first software developer, now systems analyst. Previously I was in >telecommunications industry, now I am in healthcare industry, still >on the technical side. Does this help your analysis? > >As far as my focus area, in my personal life (other than work and >family, I mean), my hobbies are mostly reading science & religion, >and occasionally painting & singing/veena. > >I am eager to learn more. Thank you for your teachings! >-Venkat > >vedic astrology, H S Viswanadham ><vishwanatham@r...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Venkat, > > > > Pt rath in his book described 9 conditional dasas and the >conditions have a heirarchy. If we meet the conditions in the first >dasa, then we do not look any further. > > > > Conditional dasas are useful to identify the focus area of the >native in his/her life and to time events. > > > > In your case we thought Satabdika dasa was applicable, because of >Vargottama Lagna. > > > > On a closer look, in your case the first one i.e. Ashtottari dasa >is applicable. > > > > Rahu is in kendra to your lagna lord and your's is a night birth >in Sukla paksha. Therefore, the above dasa is applicable. > > > > Now the focus area is export of goods, services & religion. >(something indigenous to a foreign country) > > > > Tell me which one of this fits you? Which field are you working in? > > > > It could be that you did your masters/ doctorate in a foreign >country and settled there. > > > > Honestly, i do not know much about this dasa. Working on your >chart we can learn more about it. > > > > regards > > viswanadham > > > > > > > > > > > > venkatarama_sastry <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > > Dear Mr. Vishwanatham, > > > > You are right, it is 0.40 early hours, in the AM. My mistake for > > writing 12:40, that was confusing. > > > > Janma Nakshatra is Swati, in 3rd Pada. > > > > My health is very good now, although I sufferred from low BP 10 - >11 > > years back. > > > > I will try to obtain Pt Rath's book, thank you sir. > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > >Your > > > _______________ Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local high-speed providers now. https://broadband.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Viswanadhamji, May i write a few lines in this regard? You had said that one need not go further into the other dasas if the first of the conditional dasas is found applicable. It is not so. One has to look up to all the 9 conditions and find out that governor(of the dasa under consideration) who is in kendras to the Atmakaraka(planet in kendra is considered more influential than the one in panapharas and apoklimas) and apply that dasa. If two or three planets are found in kendras then the choice/selection has to be as per the order listed out by the great sage. Best wishes. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan.H S Viswanadham <vishwanatham (AT) rocketmail (DOT) com> wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Dear Venkat, Pt rath in his book described 9 conditional dasas and the conditions have a heirarchy. If we meet the conditions in the first dasa, then we do not look any further. Conditional dasas are useful to identify the focus area of the native in his/her life and to time events. In your case we thought Satabdika dasa was applicable, because of Vargottama Lagna. On a closer look, in your case the first one i.e. Ashtottari dasa is applicable. Rahu is in kendra to your lagna lord and your's is a night birth in Sukla paksha. Therefore, the above dasa is applicable. Now the focus area is export of goods, services & religion.(something indigenous to a foreign country) Tell me which one of this fits you? Which field are you working in? It could be that you did your masters/ doctorate in a foreign country and settled there. Honestly, i do not know much about this dasa. Working on your chart we can learn more about it. regards viswanadham venkatarama_sastry <venkatarama_sastry > wrote: Dear Mr. Vishwanatham,You are right, it is 0.40 early hours, in the AM. My mistake for writing 12:40, that was confusing. Janma Nakshatra is Swati, in 3rd Pada. My health is very good now, although I sufferred from low BP 10 -11 years back. I will try to obtain Pt Rath's book, thank you sir. Venkat--- In vedic astrology, H S Viswanadham wrote:> Hare Rama Krishna,> > Dear Sastry,> > How is your health? Robust or weak?> > Pt Rath wrote a book on Vimshottari & Udu dasas. If you can, pls read it.> > i would have looked at your chart, but... you mentioned your time of birth as 12.40 AM !?> > You meant 0.40 early hours (a.m) or 12.40 past noon (p.m). > > pls clarify.> > pls attach ..jhd chart, if you can. Otherwise mention your Janma Nakshatra with pada, if it is 0.40 early hours.> > regards> viswanadham> > venkatarama_sastry wrote:> Dear Mr. Vishwanatham,> > I have Vargottama lagna. Although physical strength is not really my > strong point , I do indeed have strong beliefs and faith that > gives me a fighting spirit to overcome hurdles. Maybe that is why my > grandfather, who cast my Kundli, told my mother that there > was "dasha", i.e. "potential" for me. > > Could you please explain Satabdika dasha? I've never heard of this. > > My birth data is: > 6 october 1967, 12:40 AM> 78E28, 17N23> > Regards,> Venkatrama> > > vedic astrology, H S Viswanadham > wrote:> > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > Daer all,> > > > In case of a vargottama lagna, Satabdika dasa is applicable for > the native. (From Vimshottari & Udu dasas by Pt Rath). > > > > The native will have strong ideals & beliefs and the Lagna > functions like Mritunjaya Mantra & protects the native from all > calamities. (from the same book).> > > > So the native is likely to be brave & physically strong, based on > the planets in trines to Lagna.> > > > Hope this helps.> > > > regards> > viswanadham > > > > onlyhari wrote:> > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||> > > > Dear Sai,> > > > If the lagna is vargottama, then the native is physically strong > > (ie., capable of working long hours, capable of withstanding the > > various troubles in their lives, with a never-say-die attitude > etc).> > > > If you have a few cases like this, kindly let me know if my > > observation fits or not...> > > > regards> > Hari> > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Saikumar" > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Guru Chandrashekar ji, > > > What if the lagna itself is Vargottam(Rasi,Navamsa and some > > divisional> > > charts). What is the inference then. Do we look at Lagna lord's > > placement or> > > how do we reckon the results of Vargottama then. > > > Regards, > > > Sai> > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > 2003/12/27 00:37:02> > > To: vedic astrology> > > Cc: > > > Ji)> > > > > > Dear Pradeep,> > > In a way you are right. A planet that is Vargottam also > generally > > gives > > > good results next to Exalted planet. The nature of results will > > depend > > > on the house he is posited in, his own house lordships and other > > > modifying factors as usual.> > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji> > > >> > > > Thanks for your valuable input.I will try to dig more into the > > topic> > > > for my understanding.Yes Navamsha is considered as the most> > > > important division.Even vargottama is based on Navamsha.Though> > > > Gopuramsha,Simhasanamsha etc are there Vargottama is > considered > > as> > > > best to confirm about the true manifestation of a planet in a> > > > prticular rashi.Thus my understanding about Vargottama is, it > > does> > > > not signify good or bad.It just reconfirms that the concerned > > > > planet will give complete results by virtue of its placement > in a> > > > particular Rashi.Kindly confirm.> > > >> > > > Thanks> > > > Pradeep> > > > --- In vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > Dear Pradeep,> > > > > As you know planets are more powerful in certain degrees in a> > > > Rasi. Now> > > > > the very relationship of the Lord of the Rasi would indicate > > where> > > > each> > > > > planet's degrees of power would lie.The degrees that a > planet > > is> > > > in> > > > > strength is not based merely on less number of degrees or > more> > > > number of> > > > > degrees but is planet specific too. The Vargas divisions are> > > > probably> > > > > based on that principle coupled with the nakshatra Charana > > Lord or> > > > > Nakhshatra lord and his relation to the Rasi lord, according > to> > > > the> > > > > Varga concerned. Navamsha Varga divisions are based on the> > > > Nakshatra> > > > > Charana Lord and as such is given much importance to the > > extent> > > > that in> > > > > most of the shlokas when the sages say Amsha it generally > > refers t> > > > > Navamsha. Of course this is my personal opinion and logic and> > > > those more> > > > > learned than me might hold different views on the subject.> > > > > Hope this helps.> > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > >> > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji> > > > > >> > > > > > I was bit curious about the logic behind divisions within a> > > > > > Rashi.Each rashi can be divided further into 9,10,24,60 etc> > > > starting> > > > > > from aries until pisces and then aries again.Have you come > > across> > > > > > any reasons for this during ur experiments with > astrology.I > > have> > > > > > asked a qstn cpl of days back addressed to Narasimha > > Raoji.It is> > > > > > difficult to find logic behind every usage and may not be > > needed> > > > as> > > > > > well.Still just out of curiousity.Becuase this could help > us> > > > > > understand the validity of aspects within divisional > charts.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks in advance> > > > > > Pradeep> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Sathiyanarayana,> > > > > > > Since you know the source where it is available, find > out > > if> > > > > > Uttara> > > > > > > Parasaryam is available. If so, it could also be a > > commentary> > > > on> > > > > > Brihat> > > > > > > Parashara Hora Shastra.> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sathiyanarayana Gupta wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear shri. Chandrashekhar,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thank you for your advices, now I understand that> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ' POORVA PARASARYAM ' is available at> > > > > > > > SARASWATHY MAHAL at Thanjavour , Tamil Nadu> > > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > > > D. Sathiyanarayana Gupta .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Sathiyanarayana,> > > > > > > > Not having read the text, I can not comment on it.> > > > However> > > > > > as the> > > > > > > > name> > > > > > > > suggests it might be a compilation of various > > shlokas,> > > > > > supposed to be> > > > > > > > written/recited prior to the days of Parashara. > > There not> > > > > > being any> > > > > > > > Uttara Parasaryam, it obviously is not first Skanda > > of> > > > > > texts/shlokas> > > > > > > > attributed to Parashara. Or at least this is what I > > would> > > > > > infer> > > > > > > > from the> > > > > > > > title of the text.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sathiyanarayana Gupta wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Vishwanadham,> > > > > > > > > Thank you. Various pravartakas elaborated upon > > the> > > > > > divine> > > > > > > > science> > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > is said to have descended from the Lord > > Mahadeo.> > > > They> > > > > > did> > > > > > > > not , in> > > > > > > > > fact,> > > > > > > > > give different systems. What each did was give> > > > > > different> > > > > > > > > perspectives,> > > > > > > > > on the basis of the same basics.> > > > > > > > > Unfortunately astrologers started giving one or> > > > other> > > > > > Rishi the> > > > > > > > > credit> > > > > > > > > as originator of Jyotish and started swearing > > by> > > > one> > > > > > system or> > > > > > > > > another.> > > > > > > > > The fact that none of the Gurus or their direct> > > > > > shishya lineage,> > > > > > > > > who had> > > > > > > > > the advantage of learning from their Guru, is> > > > > > available to> > > > > > > > explain> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > true meaning of shlokas has added to the > > confusion.> > > > > > One has> > > > > > > > also to> > > > > > > > > understand that many sages of same name wrote> > > > different> > > > > > > > Vedangas.> > > > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > has led many to ascribe the authorship of the> > > > text> > > > > > favoured by> > > > > > > > > one to> > > > > > > > > the most ancient of them and thus claiming the> > > > text to> > > > > > be the> > > > > > > > > origin of> > > > > > > > > Jyotish. It is very well to equate Surya > > mentioned> > > > as> > > > > > one of> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > pravartakas but the fact remains that it might > > be> > > > > > reference> > > > > > > > to the> > > > > > > > > writer of Surya Siddhanta and so on. Sages were> > > > > > refered to> > > > > > > > by their> > > > > > > > > Gotra, place of residence and even their > > colour,> > > > > > different> > > > > > > > names> > > > > > > > > being> > > > > > > > > used to describe the same person. This should > > not> > > > be> > > > > > forgotten.> > > > > > > > > Many a> > > > > > > > > times titles were conferred upon them and> > > > therefore,> > > > > > that it is> > > > > > > > > difficult to establish antiquity of the Sages> > > > remains> > > > > > a fact.> > > > > > > > > There are also different versions of the same> > > > texts in> > > > > > > > > circulation. It> > > > > > > > > might be fashionable to claim to be follower > > of one> > > > > > system or> > > > > > > > > other, but> > > > > > > > > the fact remains that Jyotish is based on sound> > > > > > principles> > > > > > > > and all> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > sages gave instructions in words that they > > thought> > > > > > their> > > > > > > > students> > > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > comprehend better. This is why you will find > > the> > > > texts> > > > > > referring> > > > > > > > > to the> > > > > > > > > opinion of others with equal respect.> > > > > > > > > As I said earlier one should follow the system> > > > that he> > > > > > has> > > > > > > > understood> > > > > > > > > the basics of, and can apply them to real life> > > > > > horoscopes.> > > > > > > > > Hope this helps.> > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > > > > Dear pedagogues,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > kindly elucidate as to wheather 'POORVA> > > > PARASARYAM' is> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > teachings of POOJYASHRI. sage PARASARA to his> > > > > > disciples or> > > > > > > > > otherwise .> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > May DEVA GURU'S blessings shall dawn on us.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > H S Viswanadham wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrasekhar Ji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Your longish mails are very informative. Pls > > keep> > > > > > writing> > > > > > > > longish> > > > > > > > > > ones. At the end of the last mail you were> > > > saying it> > > > > > > > became too> > > > > > > > > long.> > > > > > > > > > It was a good mail. Now your clarification is> > > > still> > > > > > better.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > i also feel that people using True nodes > > & using> > > > > > different> > > > > > > > > ayanamsas> > > > > > > > > > are sticking to their own basics ( if i may > > say> > > > so!).> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > From what you said, can we speculate that the> > > > other> > > > > > Rishis> > > > > > > > whose> > > > > > > > > works> > > > > > > > > > are lost were using different 'systems'. > > What> > > > could> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > the root of> > > > > > > > > > all this?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Many thanks and best regards> > > > > > > > > > viswanadham> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > */Anna /* wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar,> > > > > > > > > > I have read carefully..> > > > > > > > > > Thank you.> > > > > > > > > > Anna> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Anna,> > > > > > > > > > I am sorry that you appear to be > > shocked> > > > > > with my> > > > > > > > opinions. I> > > > > > > > > > would like> > > > > > > > > > you to read what I have said > > carefully> > > > > > again. You> > > > > > > > will find> > > > > > > > > > that I have> > > > > > > > > > already clarified that one should > > use the> > > > > > system> > > > > > > > that one is> > > > > > > > > > comfortable> > > > > > > > > > with, and have also said that > > different> > > > > > Rishis> > > > > > > > devised> > > > > > > > > different> > > > > > > > > > systems. If you read the mail in its> > > > > > entirety, you> > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > understand that> > > > > > > > > > I am not saying anything > > contradictory> > > > to> > > > > > what is> > > > > > > > > taught,but> > > > > > > > > > am trying> > > > > > > > > > to indicate how the teachings are to > > be> > > > > > used. I merely> > > > > > > > > say that> > > > > > > > > > application of different system > > without> > > > > > > > understanding the> > > > > > > > > > logic behind> > > > > > > > > > them could lead one to a wrong> > > > prediction.> > > > > > An example> > > > > > > > > would be> > > > > > > > > > Prashna> > > > > > > > > > Marga of deciding Aarudha based on > > the> > > > > > location of the> > > > > > > > > querist> > > > > > > > > > or his> > > > > > > > > > placing a piece of Gold on a > > particular> > > > > > direction> > > > > > > > on the> > > > > > > > > > circular chart.> > > > > > > > > > Now would you say Aarudha arrived at > > by> > > > this> > > > > > > > method can> > > > > > > > > use the> > > > > > > > > > principles of Aarudha defined by> > > > Parashara> > > > > > and one> > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > arrive at> > > > > > > > > > correct predictions? Or can Aarudha> > > > arrived> > > > > > at by> > > > > > > > using> > > > > > > > > Parashara> > > > > > > > > > principles will give correct > > predictions> > > > > > when it> > > > > > > > is used to> > > > > > > > > > arrive at> > > > > > > > > > conclusions based on the results > > given in> > > > > > Prashna> > > > > > > > Marga?> > > > > > > > > I am> > > > > > > > > > certain> > > > > > > > > > you will not. Similarly can Gulika > > and> > > > > > Mandi at> > > > > > > > different> > > > > > > > > > points of> > > > > > > > > > reference be used when applying > > Jaataka> > > > > > Paarijata> > > > > > > > > parameters,> > > > > > > > > > when the> > > > > > > > > > text states specifically that they > > are> > > > > > synonyms of> > > > > > > > the same> > > > > > > > > > upagraha?> > > > > > > > > > The logic behind what I wrote will be> > > > clear> > > > > > to you.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > > > > > Anna wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar,> > > > > > > > > > > You raised serious issues here,> > > > indeed. I> > > > > > just> > > > > > > > copied some> > > > > > > > > > parts,> > > > > > > > > > > although the entire post questions > > in> > > > fact> > > > > > all we've> > > > > > > > > learnt> > > > > > > > > > here, so far.> > > > > > > > > > > You said:*_You can not apply say > > > > Metric> > > > > > system to> > > > > > > > > > manufacture a bolt> > > > > > > > > > > and BSW for the nut , they would > > never> > > > fit> > > > > > > > properly._*> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > You imply that wrt. rashi dristi,> > > > aroodas,> > > > > > that> > > > > > > > we are> > > > > > > > > > thought to use> > > > > > > > > > > along with graha dristi etc..I feel> > > > this is> > > > > > > > rather serious> > > > > > > > > > and wish if> > > > > > > > > > > could see more comments on this- > > this> > > > is> > > > > > in fact> > > > > > > > the first> > > > > > > > > > time I see> > > > > > > > > > > on THIS list such a view; > > implications> > > > > > would be> > > > > > > > > far-reaching> > > > > > > > > > with lots> > > > > > > > > > > of fundamental questions raised.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thank You.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Best regards,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Anna> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > *There are many systems based on > > the> > > > > > experience> > > > > > > > of the> > > > > > > > > > Rishis, who> > > > > > > > > > > formulated them...*> > > > > > > > > > > **> > > > > > > > > > > * one> > > > > > > > > > > predicts on the basis of Planet > > drishty> > > > > > and when the> > > > > > > > > > prediction goes> > > > > > > > > > > wrong one takes recourse to > > explaining> > > > > > away the> > > > > > > > reason of> > > > > > > > > > the failure by> > > > > > > > > > > application of Rasi drishty. Same > > is> > > > the> > > > > > case> > > > > > > > with use of> > > > > > > > > > Aarudhas,> > > > > > > > > > > Karakamsha, Divisional charts etc. > > One> > > > > > should have a> > > > > > > > > uniform> > > > > > > > > > approach to> > > > > > > > > > > any chart one analyses. _You can > > not> > > > apply> > > > > > say> > > > > > > > Metric> > > > > > > > > system to> > > > > > > > > > > manufacture a bolt and BSW for the> > > > nut ,> > > > > > they> > > > > > > > would never> > > > > > > > > > fit properly._> > > > > > > > > > > *> > > > > > > > > > > **> > > > > > > > > > > *Not much work has been done on> > > > Aarudhas> > > > > > and other> > > > > > > > > > parameters even by the> > > > > > > > > > > ancient sages and ...This does not > > mean> > > > > > that the> > > > > > > > concept> > > > > > > > > > carries no> > > > > > > > > > > substance, only that> > > > > > > > > > > exahaustive work has not been done > > on> > > > this> > > > > > aspect.> > > > > > > > > _Even the> > > > > > > > > > major yogas> > > > > > > > > > > are not based on these concept and > > as> > > > such> > > > > > it is> > > > > > > > difficult> > > > > > > > > > to know the> > > > > > > > > > > correct method of their > > application._> > > > It> > > > > > is very> > > > > > > > well> > > > > > > > > to wax> > > > > > > > > > eloquent on> > > > > > > > > > > their applicability and the > > principles> > > > > > behind such> > > > > > > > > practice,> > > > > > > > > > it is> > > > > > > > > > > another matter giving Authentic > > quotes> > > > from> > > > > > > > standard texts> > > > > > > > > > to support> > > > > > > > > > > the premise.> > > > > > > > > > > *> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------> > ----> > > > ----> > > > > > -----------> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Photos - easier > > uploading> > > > and> > > > > > sharing> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > .>> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> > > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Group info:> > > > > > > > > > vedic-> > > > > > astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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May Jupiter's light shine on> > > > us .......> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> > > > > > Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------> > ----> > > > ----> > > > > > -----------> > > > > > > > > > * Links*> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > * To visit your group on the web, go > > to:> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-> > > > > > astrology/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * To from this group, > > send an> > > > > > email to:> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > subject=Un>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Your use of is > > subject to> > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Terms of> > > > > > > > > > Service> > > > > > .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic-> > > > > > astrology> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Group info:> > > > > > > > vedic-> > astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on > > us ........> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> > > > > > Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------> > ----> > > > ----> > > > > > -----------> > > > > > > > > > * Links*> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > vedic-> > > > astrology/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * To from this group, send an> > > > email> > > > > > to:> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > subject=Un>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Your use of is subject > > to the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of> > > > > > > > > > Service> > > > .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic-> > > > astrology> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Group info:> > > > > > > > vedic-> > astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > > > > > vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> > > > Krishnaarpanamastu > > > > > > ||> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------> > ----> > > > ----> > > > > > -----------> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > * Links*> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > vedic-> > > > astrology/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * To from this group, send an> > > > email to:> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > subject=Un>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Your use of is subject to > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of> > > > > > > > > Service > > .> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --------------------> > ----> > > > ----> > > > > > -----------> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photos - Get your photo on the big screen in> > > > Times> > > > > > Square> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > spsimplenol?.file=ny_ts_splash.html>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic-> > astrology> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic-> > > > > > astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > > > > > vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu > > > > ||> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --------------------> > ----> > > > ----> > > > > > -----------> > > > > > > > > * Links*> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > vedic-> > astrology/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * To from this group, send an > > email to:> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > subject=Un>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Your use of is subject to the> > > > > > > > > > Terms of> > > > > > > > > Service .> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Archives: vedic-> > astrology> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Group info: vedic-> > > > > > astrology/info.html> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ....... 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May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ----------------------> --> > ----> > > > ----> > > > > > -------> > > > > > > > * Links*> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > vedic astrology/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > ?> > > > > > subject=Un>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Your use of is subject to the > > > > Terms of> > > > > > > > Service .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > >> > > > > > Group info: vedic-> > > > astrology/info.html> > > > > >> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > ....... 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