Chandrashekhar & Simple Vimsottari Example (Birthdata)

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Dear Chandrashekhar

 

I have the guidance of a master who has told me the "methods" of

practice. I am getting a regular feedback from him. He has been

guiding me through the various feedbacks that he gets from me.

 

I have done deep research in this area, and i for one surely know

what i am doing. I hope this is taken in right spirit.

And i would also like to mention, that prarabdha has a great role to

play in this matter. If a person has to lose his mental balance or

get physical disorders then no one can stop it, no matter what.

Without any self effort, without any pre-karma, we cannot expect the

right guru to arrive. Vivekananda had undergone many things before he

met his guru. And so did many past masters. No one gets a guru just

like that. Spiritual readiness is required. WIth one hundred desires

left, with karma left , how can a person expect to meet a guru so

soon. He has to first tread the path of pure self less work and

bhakti before attempting to even search for a guru.

I have seen that your mails are quite fiery, and then in the end you

mention of taking things and your opinions in right spirit. I really

cant understand this approach. Why being fiery in the first place,

and then why asking for understanding in "right spirit". If you are

feeling guilty of your words, then please dont. As you are a senior,

we all respect your opinion, and we all take things in the right

spirit anyways.

regards

partha

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Partha, Narasimha,

>

> Pardon me for the interruption, I do not mean any disrespect to

both of you,

> whose astrological knowledge I have deep respect for. However I am

> interrupting the thread as I think a dangerous path is being

pursued.

>

> Would it not be better if we get comments of some Guru having

capacity to

> guide a student in the proper way of Kundalini Jagrati? In so far

as I know,

> it can rise and dissecting various Chakras reach Sahasrara over

time. It can

> rise up to certain Chakra and subside but does not remain in any of

the

> Chakras over time, barring travel from Muladhara to Sahasrara, with

out

> dhyana in case of the Siddhas, who then become Urdhva drishti.

>

> Trying to experiment with rising of Kundalini without guidance of a

Guru is

> known to have caused mental afflictions of serious nature. So, all

this talk

> about rise of Kundalini while asleep or its remaining locked up in

Ajna

> Chakra, might encourage some one to experiment and lead to dire

consequence.

>

> If I have hurt anyone's feelings, belive me it was not my intention

to do so

> and I seek their pardon in advance.Certain things happen during the

course

> of awakening of Kundalini, and on its reaching Sahasrara, which are

not

> mentioned by either of you, hence the word of caution, I felt, was

my duty.

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> V.Partha sarathy [partvinu5]

> Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:21 PM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Partha, Kundalini & Simple Vimsottari

Example

> (Re: Birthdata)

>

>

> Dear Narasimha

>

> Thank you for the analysis.So kind of you.

>

> I am not so sure whether the Kundalini is awakened in me.

>

> THough there is tremendous awareness and understanding of

macrocosm,

> i still have my own doubts.

>

> I have throbbing of Ajna chakra right througout the day, so i can

> agree to your analysis.

> There is doubt, confusion, anger, peace etc, All these are

> experiences due to the various nadis getting "cleaned".

>

> BTW PT.Rath is right on target with his prediction that Jupiter

> transit in Trines to AL(If Jupiter is in badhaka sthana in a

trine in

> natal chart), may help the person get a guru who will be bad in

> nature but will purify the native.

>

> This is true in my case, as i happened to meet a Tantric who

insulted

> me and made fun of me. I did not feel bad, as he gave me quite

good

> knowledge. He has indeed been the "trigger" for a major

> transformation.

> Under rahu dasa we may meet the wrong people. But "wrong" is only

a

> perception, as we can never truly understand Rahu's nature. This

> wrong may lead us to the right. But we should gaurd our dharma. So

> you are hundred percent correct.

> Under all circumstances i have upheld my dharma, and this has

cost me

> badly in material spheres. I have lost jobs and money.

> But i am not sad, as this has helped me in spiritual pursuits.

> And also after experiencing so many material births, i am least

> interested in materialism as shown by rahu.

>

> So coming back, i am not so sure whether kundalini has risen or

not.

> But yes, i am constantly feeling energy at the crown center since

> last few months. I am now constantly feeling energy in the body,

and

> also the subtle sensations.

> This has also helped me understand the navamsa chart, also the

areas

> where we can give remedies to people.

> thanks and love

> partha

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > Dear Partha,

> >

> > I was just curious after reading all your experiences like ajna

> chakra throbbing etc. Thanks for sending your birthdata to the

list

> and also for resending it to me privately.

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > I will make comments on the chart a little later. First, a

point on

> Kundalini.

> >

> > Though I am not an expert on Kundalini, I do not agree with your

> caution that Kundalini's is "like a thunderbolt". It may be so in

> your case, for various reasons. It is not always the case. Your

> desctiption actually made me concerned. That is why I was curious

> about the chart.

> >

> > I have never meditated on any chakras. I have never done any

yoga

> directed at Kundalini rise, but I think I too did experience

> Kundalini rise. I am not so much into Kundalini and I am only into

> bhakti yoga (the path of devotion) and do my poojas sincerely. I

have

> been reading Sri MahaLakshmi's 108 names 108 times every Friday

for

> almost 10 years now (it will be the 10th anniversary in coming

> January). I have been doing Satya Narayana vratam on every Full

Moon

> day for more than 3 years. Originally, I used to pray with

desires,

> but I just pray now. I am very happy to just pray. I do some other

> poojas, but these two are the main ones. Overall, I am into poojas

> and devotion and not into any Kundalini yoga, laya yoga, hatha

yoga,

> raja yoga etc. Somehow, they don't interest me.

> >

> > In March 1998, I think my Kundalini woke up during sleep. Of

> course, it might be a hallucination. If you want me dismiss me,

it is

> certainly a tenable viewpoint. But I believe that my Kundali woke

up

> then. Jupiter and Ketu were transiting within a couple of degrees

> from my Rahu's natal longitude and they were in lagna at the time.

> >

> > What happened was that I had a dream. In the dream, I saw a few

> idols of Vishnu, Lakshmi, Bhoo Devi etc in my front yard. The

idols

> suddenly became alive (i.e. started moving and talking) and

hundreds

> of gods descended on my front yard to serve them. The whole place

was

> lively with a lot of sounds and was full of a splendrous yellow

> color. While I was having this dream, I experienced a strange

> happiness and peace (in my dream) that I had never experienced in

my

> life. I woke up then (it was a little before sunrise). It was an

> unbelievably great feeling and the splendrous yellow color I saw

all

> around is still fresh in my memory.

> >

> > Several years later, I experienced a rise in Kundalini. This

time,

> it was during a Satya Narayana vratam on a Full Moon night. It

was a

> Friday. I had not eaten anything in 28 hours, but was feeling

great.

> I did my weekly Lakshmi pooja and then did Satya Narayana vratam.

As

> a part of the vratam, before reading Vishnu's 1000 names, we read

> Lakshmi's 108 names. At the end of reading Lakshmi's names, I

felt a

> great happiness and an inexpressible sense of calm and comfort.

That

> feeling lasted for, perhaps, half a minute and it was interrupted

by

> a sensation on the two sides of my spine (near the location of

> Manipura chakra). It felt like someone was biting/scratching me

> there. It was not too forceful or painful, but not subtle at all.

It

> was on both the sides of my spine and was simultaneous. When I

turned

> back, there was nobody. Then the feeling of calm and happiness

> returned. I first did not understand it. Later, a learned person

> remarked that it was Kundalini.

> >

> > Again, this could be wrong, but I believe that Kundalini pierced

> thru Brahma granthi at that time. At that time, Jupiter was

> transiting a couple of degrees away from my natal Ketu (who is in

> 12th). He was in lagna at the time of the experience.

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > The main point I want to make is that both the experiences were

> very positive. I did not feel any "thunderbolt". The only pain

> (little bit) I felt during granthi bhedana was accompanied by a

lot

> of pleasure. You could argue it wasn't Kundalini, but I believe it

> was.

> >

> > Both the experiences brought a strange and inexpressible

feeling of

> happiness, calm, pleasure and contentment. They were very positive

> experiences.

> >

> > I would imagine that a lot of depends on one's own chart and the

> path one followed.

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > Now let us move on to your (Partha's) chart.

> >

> > Before I forget, one key aspect of the chart is that there is an

> atma karaka replacement. Sun at 29Sc44 was the AK at birth.

Jupiter

> at 29Ar16 is AmK at birth, for replaces Sun later in life and

becomes

> the new AK. This results in a huge internal transformation. This

> transformation is happening right now and will end in 2005-2006.

> >

> > The transformed AK, Jupiter, is well-placed in the 5th house

with

> Ketu association in both rasi and vimsamsa. But, he is afflicted

by

> Rahu in

> > navamsa and that makes me concerned. Make sure you follow the

> purest dharma shown by Jupiter and not fall in the trap of Rahu.

> >

> > In my view, Vimsamsa (D-20) is the chart that shows spiritual

> experiences, including Kundalini experiences. The seven chakras

> (Mooladhara, Swadhshthana etc) are shown by the houses 7th,

6th, ...,

> 1st (respectively). When my Kundalini was awakened in March 1998,

> nodes were transiting in Sc in D-20, which is the 7th house in my

> natal D-20 and contains nodes. When Brahma granthi (Manipura

chakra)

> was pierced thru, nodes were transiting in Vi in D-20, which is

the

> 5th house in my natal D-20 and contains 3 key planets.

> >

> > In your D-20, the 2nd house of experiences with ajna chakra is

very

> strong. It contains Mercury and nodes. This does suggest some

> experiences. However, Mercury is in a vimsamsa ruled by goddess

> Ghora. This seems to suggest some violence or pain involved in the

> ajna chakra experiences.

> >

> > Rahu and Jupiter are in the 2nd house in D-20 and you are

running

> Rahu-Mercury antardasa!

> >

> > Talking about dasas, let me demonstrate how Vimsottari dasa is

used

> at the coarse level. More examples (and more detailed ones) can be

> found in th Vimsottari dasa workshop CD.

> >

> > Malefic planets give the results of their state in the first

one-

> third, the results of their ownership and placement in the middle

one-

> third and the results of association in the last one-third.

> >

> > Thus, Aug 1994-Aug 2002 gives the result of Rahu's strength.

Rahu

> in Leo is not that strong. In fact, he is in an inimical house.

Thus,

> this is a period of introspection, confusion and frustration. Aug

> 2002-Mar 2009 gives the result of Rahu's 8th house ownership

(search

> of truth) and the 2nd house placement (experiences of ajna

chakra),

> both taken from Surya lagna (Sun, who is also in normal lagna in

this

> case).

> >

> > Thus, we judge maha dasas and the 3 parts of a maha dasa. Then

we

> can go to antardasas.

> >

> > Mercury antardasa is running from Aug 2002 to Feb 2005. In your

D-

> 20, Mercury is with malefics and hence he too is a malefic. So, in

> the first one-third of the AD (Aug 2002-July 2003), Mercury gives

the

> result of his state. He is in an adhimitra's house and thus gives

> good results and direction. You will feel comfortable with your

> spirituality.

> >

> > While Rahu is the 8th lord from Sun, Mercury is in the 8th from

> Moon. Thus, Mercury AD in Rahu MD activates the 8th house fully

and

> gives sadhana. This happens particularly in the middle one-third

of

> Mercury AD (July 2003-Jan 2004).

> >

> > Thus, one can see that the rule of Sun-Moon-lagna for

interpreting

> 3 levels, when coupled with the rule of 3 parts of a period, makes

> readings very simple.

> >

> > BTW, you are thoroughly under Rahu's influence. Rahu's

Vimsottari

> dasa and Moola dasa are running. Even the 8th house of sadhana

from

> Narayana dasa sign has Rahu. Though Rahu aspected by Jupiter is

not

> unfavorable, I am wary of a Rahu who joins Jupiter in navamsa.

Make

> sure you follow a very pure dharma and make sure you follow only

the

> most saattwik gurus. This dasa may give you many experiences, but

I

> honestly think that the next dasa of Jupiter will be the one that

> will fulfil your real potential. By that time Jupiter dasa comes,

the

> atma karaka replacement will be completed. Jupiter will be the AK

and

> his dasa will be running. You will achieve a lot spiritually then.

> God bless you!

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

> >

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