Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 Dear RMK, That was a very welcome intervention and thank you for the same.Can also please let me know whether a planet gets weak when close to Rasi Sandhi like say below 5 degrees or above 25 degrees? It is also not clear to me if the Varothama condition gives Neechabhanga or makes it even weaker, a Neecha planet? Regards Kaimal - Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000 <vedic astrology> Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:38 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Natural & Functional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Dear Sir, Thanks for the mail with a detailed clarification on the subject.But I would like to know what is meant by "better house".If it owns 5/8,is the 5th the better house?But if the 8th house is its MT,then what is the situation? Regards Kaimal - Zoran Radosavljevic vedic astrology Friday, October 17, 2003 7:06 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Natural & Functional Om Namo Narayanaya,Dear Luca, 3. answer to your earlier question which Mr. Raghunadha Rao asked me toanswer -- if planet is 6/9 lord .....or lets say 5/6 lord ......it will giveeffects of both houses. See transit of concerned planet to see augmentationof effects of a particular house. Also check position of planet fromconcerned house.There are many ways to differentiate. If graha is strong and well placed it would manifest more the effects of a "better house", if weak it will be the opposite. Further, in dasha periods, graha will firstly give the effect of house closer to lagna, or if retrogarde, the opposite. Also, manifstation may take according to drekkana placement etc..Bhavarth Ratnakar gives interesting counting from multrikon of a bhava. Suppose, guru is in kumbha in 2nd house. It will be placed in 12th house from 3rd house (double negative) and 3rd house from 12th house where multrikon is placed (double negative). Thus it would consider Guru in 2nd for kumbha excellent. For that reason, it is stated that Shani in 5th house (neecha) for Dhanu lagna will give excellent results in dasha (3rd from multrikona house which falls in 3rd-double negative) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 my few cents -- 1. Each rashi is divided into 5 avasthas of 6 degree each. Planets in first and last avasthas are weak BUT if vargottam they gain considerable strength. Remember there are 2 things to be considered - Strength and Maleficence/Beneficence. Avasthas of planets should be taken into consideration while calculating *Strength*. 2. Vargottam planet gains strength. 3. answer to your earlier question which Mr. Raghunadha Rao asked me to answer -- if planet is 6/9 lord .....or lets say 5/6 lord ......it will give effects of both houses. See transit of concerned planet to see augmentation of effects of a particular house. Also check position of planet from concerned house. One more thing -- natural malefics will remain malefics (or rather soft malefics) even if they become functional benefics. See Shri Rama's chart, yogakaraka Mars exalted in 7th house of marriage. Remember Sri Rama's married life. --Luca - "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria" <rajeshkumaria2000 <vedic astrology> Friday, October 17, 2003 12:31 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Natural & Functional > Dear Kaimal, > Well I am not exactly sure but I think that Rashi Sandhi definition > means that the concerned planet should be within 2 degrees of either > boundary of the Rashi signs i.e., less than 2 degrees when rashi > starts or more than 28 degrees when rashi ends. Also if the rashi > dispositor or nakshatara dispositors of such a planet(which is close > to Rashi sandhi) are , benefic, strong and well placed, then may be > the negative painful effects of Rashi sandhi planet can be reduced to > some/large extent. Also combustion and affliction by malefics can > make such effects even more painful. > > ALso Vargottama condition is not directly related to NeechBhanga or > are you trying to imply that if a planet is in Neecha/Debilitated > condition in both Rashi and Navamsa, then does it mean automatic > cancellation of debilitation? Well the answer is NO. In that case its > double debilitation(assuming other factors for cancellation of > debilitation are not present)...it almost means more harsh > materialistic effects. Then you have to go into mantras detail for > controlling such debilitation by prayers etc., > Regards. RMK. > > vedic astrology, SRCKaimal <srckaimal@a...> > wrote: > > Dear RMK, > > That was a very welcome intervention and thank you for the same.Can > also > > please let me know whether a planet gets weak when close to Rasi > Sandhi like > > say below 5 degrees or above 25 degrees? > > It is also not clear to me if the Varothama condition gives > Neechabhanga or > > makes it even weaker, a Neecha planet? > > Regards > > Kaimal > > - > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> > > <vedic astrology> > > Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:38 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Natural & Functional > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Luca, 3. answer to your earlier question which Mr. Raghunadha Rao asked me toanswer -- if planet is 6/9 lord .....or lets say 5/6 lord ......it will giveeffects of both houses. See transit of concerned planet to see augmentationof effects of a particular house. Also check position of planet fromconcerned house. There are many ways to differentiate. If graha is strong and well placed it would manifest more the effects of a "better house", if weak it will be the opposite. Further, in dasha periods, graha will firstly give the effect of house closer to lagna, or if retrogarde, the opposite. Also, manifstation may take according to drekkana placement etc..Bhavarth Ratnakar gives interesting counting from multrikon of a bhava. Suppose, guru is in kumbha in 2nd house. It will be placed in 12th house from 3rd house (double negative) and 3rd house from 12th house where multrikon is placed (double negative). Thus it would consider Guru in 2nd for kumbha excellent. For that reason, it is stated that Shani in 5th house (neecha) for Dhanu lagna will give excellent results in dasha (3rd from multrikona house which falls in 3rd-double negative) One more thing -- natural malefics will remain malefics (or rather softmalefics) even if they become functional benefics. See Shri Rama's chart,yogakaraka Mars exalted in 7th house of marriage. Remember Sri Rama'smarried life. These things are different. Mars will remain old mars who will burn away with his agni tatwa, yet he may have a highly positive role (function) in the chart (rulership of good houses). Most commonly, malefics even in exaltation will damage the living things of a bhava(in Rama's case a spouse) Best wishes Zoran --Luca-"Rajesh Mohan Kumaria" <rajeshkumaria2000 ><vedic astrology>Friday, October 17, 2003 12:31 AM[vedic astrology] Re: Natural & Functional Dear Kaimal,Well I am not exactly sure but I think that Rashi Sandhi definitionmeans that the concerned planet should be within 2 degrees of eitherboundary of the Rashi signs i.e., less than 2 degrees when rashistarts or more than 28 degrees when rashi ends. Also if the rashidispositor or nakshatara dispositors of such a planet(which is closeto Rashi sandhi) are , benefic, strong and well placed, then may bethe negative painful effects of Rashi sandhi planet can be reduced tosome/large extent. Also combustion and affliction by malefics canmake such effects even more painful.ALso Vargottama condition is not directly related to NeechBhanga orare you trying to imply that if a planet is in Neecha/Debilitatedcondition in both Rashi and Navamsa, then does it mean automaticcancellation of debilitation? Well the answer is NO. In that case itsdouble debilitation(assuming other factors for cancellation o fdebilitation are not present)...it almost means more harshmaterialistic effects. Then you have to go into mantras detail forcontrolling such debilitation by prayers etc.,Regards. RMK.--- In vedic astrology, SRCKaimal <srckaimal@a...>wrote: Dear RMK,That was a very welcome intervention and thank you for the same.Can also please let me know whether a planet gets weak when close to Rasi Sandhi like say below 5 degrees or above 25 degrees?It is also not clear to me if the Varothama condition gives Neechabhanga or makes it even weaker, a Neecha planet?RegardsKaimal----- Original Message -----Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000>To: <vedic astrology>Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:38 AM[vedic astrology] Re: Natural & Functional Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||Your use of is subject to ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or LexmarkPrinter at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada.http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511http://us.click./mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/.8XolB/TM---~->Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE : Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......Your use of is subject to -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotisha Guru at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre India ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Kaimal, Better house is more favourable house, no matter whether 8th house is multrikon. Even for kumbha Lagna, where mercury rules 5th and 8th houses, if very well placed, it would enhance more 5th house affairs. Howeer, even slight affliction will show through 8th house affairs as well. SRCKaimal wrote: Dear Sir, Thanks for the mail with a detailed clarification on the subject.But I would like to know what is meant by "better house".If it owns 5/8,is the 5th the better house?But if the 8th house is its MT,then what is the situation? Regards Kaimal - Zoran Radosavljevic To: vedic astrology Friday, October 17, 2003 7:06 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Natural & Functional Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Luca, 3. answer to your earlier question which Mr. Raghunadha Rao asked me toanswer -- if planet is 6/9 lord .....or lets say 5/6 lord ......it will giveeffects of both houses. See transit of concerned planet to see augmentationof effects of a particular house. Also check position of planet fromconcerned house. There are many ways to differentiate. If graha is strong and well placed it would manifest more the effects of a "better house", if weak it will be the opposite. Further, in dasha periods, graha will firstly give the effect of house closer to lagna, or if retrogarde, the opposite. Also, manifstation may take according to drekkana placement etc..Bhavarth Ratnakar gives interesting counting from multrikon of a bhava. Suppose, guru is in kumbha in 2nd house. It will be placed in 12th house from 3rd house (double negative) and 3rd house from 12th house where multrikon is placed (double negative). Thus it would consider Guru in 2nd for kumbha excellent. For that reason, it is stated that Shani in 5th house (neecha) for Dhanu lagna will give excellent results in dasha (3rd from multrikona house which falls in 3rd-double negative) Archives: vedic astrology Group info: vedic astrology/info.html Terms of Service .. -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotisha Guru at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre India ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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