Spiritual Chakras and Planets (npvr rao)

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Dear Mr. Rao,

I am not one of the learned members (you say, "I hope it makes sense

to some of the more learned members)" but I do understand your mail.

However, despite your explanation ...

("Thus, I have presented two planets each for each chakra. One

symbolizes the nature of the chakra and the challenges presented by

it and the other shows the ways to overcome the challenges") ... I

find it hard to believe that the chakras should have two karakas

each. This seems unusual. Forgive me for being a recalcitrant student

but the order of the chakras and the order of the planets seems so

simple and so tidy that it feels right

 

You also seem to imply that Mr. Behari is not a worthy authority on

the subject... (you say, "The following is not from any book or from

any external teacher. It is from the internal teacher"). Your inner

teacher is, no doubt prompted by your vast knowledge, which we all

respect and learn from. Mr.Behari seems to have done a great deal of

research on this topic during his current lifetime. The references

are scattered throughout his many works so it was impossible for me

to quote them all in one mail.

Am I wrong in considering him an expert on this topic? Perhaps if

anyone in New Dehli knows him personally he could explain to them how

his inner teacher gave him his knowledge. His phone number is (still

I hope) 0091 11 215 1203

You don't consider Venus as being in any way connected to the heart

chakra. One reason Bepari gives for considering Venus as karaka for

Anahapta is that he is in the centre of the higher and lower triad,

acting as a balance between the subjective and the objective ...there

is so much more... Do we all tend to forget that Venus has a higher

purpose too?

Forgive my recalcitrance, please.

 

Love,

Gili

[Guest guest]

Namaste Gili,

 

> I find it hard to believe that the chakras should have two

> karakas each. This seems unusual.

 

Why not?

 

I showed that one planet shows the challenges and one planet shows the way out.

Aren't they two different aspects related to a chakra? Then, why can't two

different planets signify them?

 

In fact, not just two, but there could be five karakas for each chakra,

signifying five different aspects of each chakra.

 

In fact, the first karaka I have given is crystal clear from the nature of the

chakras as given in literature. The five two chakras have the five tattvas

associated with them and hence the planets are clear. The upper two are ruled

by luminaries.

 

It is in the second karaka I have given - the one that helps us conquer the

chakra - that my own thinking is involved.

 

> You also seem to imply that Mr. Behari is not a worthy authority on

 

Well, there are many "authorities" and they have given different opinions each.

 

I personally have no opinion on Mr. Behari, but I have a tremendous amount of

respect for Sri Harish Johari. He is probably the greatest authority of our

times in mantra, tantra etc. His opinion was different from that of Mr. Behari

(and that of Mr. Rath and that of mine).

 

I cannot form opinions based on my personal impression of (and respect for) an

author. It has to make sense to me. I believe my exposition is based on clear

logic.

 

Of course, you can choose to believe in Mr. Behari and ignore me. Or, you can

choose to believe in Mr. Johari and ignore me.

> the subject... (you say, "The following is not from any book or from > any

external teacher. It is from the internal teacher"). Your inner > teacher is,

no doubt prompted by your vast knowledge, which we all

 

I just want to put it on record that I have read the opinions of various authors

before forming this opinion.

> respect and learn from. Mr.Behari seems to have done a great deal of >

research on this topic during his current lifetime.

 

I too have done some amount of research and thinking and have given my views for

the benefit of people.

 

Of course, I can be wrong.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Rao,

You seem to have taken offence. That wasn't my intention. You claimed not

to be an expert on this and I took you at your word. I understand your

argument for several karakas. Perhaps my Aquarius Lagna ("I just 'know' ...

don't bother me with the facts" : ) ) is getting in the way of changing my

belief.

Thank you for your reply. I look forward to more.

Love,

Gili

 

>"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr

>vedic astrology

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>[vedic astrology] Re: Spiritual Chakras and Planets (npvr rao)

>Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:07:54 -0500

>

>Namaste Gili,

>

> > I find it hard to believe that the chakras should have two

> > karakas each. This seems unusual.

>

>Why not?

>

>I showed that one planet shows the challenges and one planet shows the way

>out. Aren't they two different aspects related to a chakra? Then, why can't

>two different planets signify them?

>

>In fact, not just two, but there could be five karakas for each chakra,

>signifying five different aspects of each chakra.

>

>In fact, the first karaka I have given is crystal clear from the nature of

>the chakras as given in literature. The five two chakras have the five

>tattvas associated with them and hence the planets are clear. The upper two

>are ruled by luminaries.

>

>It is in the second karaka I have given - the one that helps us conquer the

>chakra - that my own thinking is involved.

>

> > You also seem to imply that Mr. Behari is not a worthy authority on

>

>Well, there are many "authorities" and they have given different opinions

>each.

>

>I personally have no opinion on Mr. Behari, but I have a tremendous amount

>of respect for Sri Harish Johari. He is probably the greatest authority of

>our times in mantra, tantra etc. His opinion was different from that of Mr.

>Behari (and that of Mr. Rath and that of mine).

>

>I cannot form opinions based on my personal impression of (and respect for)

>an author. It has to make sense to me. I believe my exposition is based on

>clear logic.

>

>Of course, you can choose to believe in Mr. Behari and ignore me. Or, you

>can choose to believe in Mr. Johari and ignore me.

>

> > the subject... (you say, "The following is not from any book or from

> > any external teacher. It is from the internal teacher"). Your inner

> > teacher is, no doubt prompted by your vast knowledge, which we all

>

>I just want to put it on record that I have read the opinions of various

>authors before forming this opinion.

>

> > respect and learn from. Mr.Behari seems to have done a great deal of

> > research on this topic during his current lifetime.

>

>I too have done some amount of research and thinking and have given my

>views for the benefit of people.

>

>Of course, I can be wrong.

>

>May Jupiter's light shine on us,

>Narasimha

 

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Dear Gili,

 

Far from that. No offence was taken at all.

 

I am indeed not an expert on this. But I have read various

authors and formed my views and am sharing them with all.

My only point is: don't view it as disrespect of an author

or his "worthiness" if I deviate from somebody.

 

Also my request is: be open to the possibility of multiple

planets signifying various aspects related to the same

chakra. Mind (Moon) represents the challenges involved in

conquering ajna chakra and intellect (Jupiter) represents

the way to conquer the chakra. That is why some people

have [rightly] attributed Moon to ajna chakra and some

people have [rightly] attributed Jupiter.

 

The two planet lists I have presented are two aspects of

chakras. There are other aspects of chakras and other

authors may have focussed on them.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

> Dear Mr. Rao,

> You seem to have taken offence. That wasn't my intention. You

claimed not

> to be an expert on this and I took you at your word. I understand

your

> argument for several karakas. Perhaps my Aquarius Lagna ("I

just 'know' ...

> don't bother me with the facts" : ) ) is getting in the way of

changing my

> belief.

> Thank you for your reply. I look forward to more.

> Love,

> Gili

>

> >Namaste Gili,

> >

> > > I find it hard to believe that the chakras should have two

> > > karakas each. This seems unusual.

> >

> >Why not?

> >

> >I showed that one planet shows the challenges and one planet shows

the way

> >out. Aren't they two different aspects related to a chakra? Then,

why can't

> >two different planets signify them?

> >

> >In fact, not just two, but there could be five karakas for each

chakra,

> >signifying five different aspects of each chakra.

> >

> >In fact, the first karaka I have given is crystal clear from the

nature of

> >the chakras as given in literature. The five two chakras have the

five

> >tattvas associated with them and hence the planets are clear. The

upper two

> >are ruled by luminaries.

> >

> >It is in the second karaka I have given - the one that helps us

conquer the

> >chakra - that my own thinking is involved.

> >

> > > You also seem to imply that Mr. Behari is not a worthy

authority on

> >

> >Well, there are many "authorities" and they have given different

opinions

> >each.

> >

> >I personally have no opinion on Mr. Behari, but I have a

tremendous amount

> >of respect for Sri Harish Johari. He is probably the greatest

authority of

> >our times in mantra, tantra etc. His opinion was different from

that of Mr.

> >Behari (and that of Mr. Rath and that of mine).

> >

> >I cannot form opinions based on my personal impression of (and

respect for)

> >an author. It has to make sense to me. I believe my exposition is

based on

> >clear logic.

> >

> >Of course, you can choose to believe in Mr. Behari and ignore me.

Or, you

> >can choose to believe in Mr. Johari and ignore me.

> >

> > > the subject... (you say, "The following is not from any book or

from

> > > any external teacher. It is from the internal teacher"). Your

inner

> > > teacher is, no doubt prompted by your vast knowledge, which we

all

> >

> >I just want to put it on record that I have read the opinions of

various

> >authors before forming this opinion.

> >

> > > respect and learn from. Mr.Behari seems to have done a great

deal of

> > > research on this topic during his current lifetime.

> >

> >I too have done some amount of research and thinking and have

given my

> >views for the benefit of people.

> >

> >Of course, I can be wrong.

> >

> >May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> >Narasimha

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Rao,

I'm so glad.

Love,

Gili

 

 

>"pvr108" <pvr

>Dear Gili,

>

>Far from that. No offence was taken at all.

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Narasimha,

I am not much in to religion interpretation per-se. But since there is an

ongoing attempt to relate Chakras to Planet karakatwa, would you check up the

following and let me know whether this logic can be applied to Chakra-Karaka

relationship?

I think the Karakatwas could relate from Sun to Saturn in descending order

depending distance of planets from Sun, from Saharara to Mooladhara as the

locations relate to the planets in question. I may be completely off the

track,but could you check up.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

[pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net]Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:38 PMVedic

Astrology Group[vedic astrology] Re: Spiritual Chakras and Planets

(npvr rao)

Namaste Gili,

 

> I find it hard to believe that the chakras should have two

> karakas each. This seems unusual.

 

Why not?

 

I showed that one planet shows the challenges and one planet shows the way out.

Aren't they two different aspects related to a chakra? Then, why can't two

different planets signify them?

 

In fact, not just two, but there could be five karakas for each chakra,

signifying five different aspects of each chakra.

 

In fact, the first karaka I have given is crystal clear from the nature of the

chakras as given in literature. The five two chakras have the five tattvas

associated with them and hence the planets are clear. The upper two are ruled

by luminaries.

 

It is in the second karaka I have given - the one that helps us conquer the

chakra - that my own thinking is involved.

 

> You also seem to imply that Mr. Behari is not a worthy authority on

 

Well, there are many "authorities" and they have given different opinions each.

 

I personally have no opinion on Mr. Behari, but I have a tremendous amount of

respect for Sri Harish Johari. He is probably the greatest authority of our

times in mantra, tantra etc. His opinion was different from that of Mr. Behari

(and that of Mr. Rath and that of mine).

 

I cannot form opinions based on my personal impression of (and respect for) an

author. It has to make sense to me. I believe my exposition is based on clear

logic.

 

Of course, you can choose to believe in Mr. Behari and ignore me. Or, you can

choose to believe in Mr. Johari and ignore me.

> the subject... (you say, "The following is not from any book or from > any

external teacher. It is from the internal teacher"). Your inner > teacher is,

no doubt prompted by your vast knowledge, which we all

 

I just want to put it on record that I have read the opinions of various authors

before forming this opinion.

> respect and learn from. Mr.Behari seems to have done a great deal of >

research on this topic during his current lifetime.

 

I too have done some amount of research and thinking and have given my views for

the benefit of people.

 

Of course, I can be wrong.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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