planet rulling good & bad houses simultaneously

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||Om brihaspataye namah||

Dear Rajas

The 12th lord shows the nature of expenses and devaguru ruling it shows

expenses on good causes. We all have to spend money and energy, so is it not

good if this is spent on good things. Jupiter grants grand fortune to Aries

and that is why Aries is called the ROYAL sign of the zodiac (Leo is NOT

ROYAL). The royalty for aries comes due to guru/sagittarius in the ninth.

"Sri Ram Jaya Ram Jaya Jaya Ram"...sing this melody and see for yourself.

With best wishes & regards,

I remain

Sanjay Rath

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Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com <http://srath.com>

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astrorajas [astrorajas]

Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:33 AM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] planet rulling good & bad houses

simultaneously

 

 

Dear Friends,

say for Aries, Jupiter is the lord of 9th & 12th house.so if Jupiter

is strong, whether it will promote fortunes being lord of 9th house

or it will cause losses being lord of 12th house? whether person

having Aries asc. should wear yellow saphhiere to promote its basic

features & significations of 9th house or by wearing it, will be

harmful as it will increase losses as significating features of 12th

house?

 

looking forward for clarifications/comments.

thanks & regards

Rajas

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Om Namah Shivaya

 

Dear Sanjayji

 

In your book i forgot which one( as there are so many which i am

reading), you had mentioned that jupiter in Aries and scorpio is not

so good for finances.

 

So Is it Jupiter granting Royal fortune to Aries applicable.

regards

partha

om tat sat

 

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...>

wrote:

>

>

> ||Om brihaspataye namah||

> Dear Rajas

> The 12th lord shows the nature of expenses and devaguru ruling it

shows

> expenses on good causes. We all have to spend money and energy, so

is it not

> good if this is spent on good things. Jupiter grants grand fortune

to Aries

> and that is why Aries is called the ROYAL sign of the zodiac (Leo

is NOT

> ROYAL). The royalty for aries comes due to guru/sagittarius in the

ninth.

> "Sri Ram Jaya Ram Jaya Jaya Ram"...sing this melody and see for

yourself.

> With best wishes & regards,

> I remain

> Sanjay Rath

> --

------

> Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

> Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com <http://srath.com>

> --

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>

>

>

> astrorajas [astrorajas]

> Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:33 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] planet rulling good & bad houses

> simultaneously

>

>

> Dear Friends,

> say for Aries, Jupiter is the lord of 9th & 12th house.so if Jupiter

> is strong, whether it will promote fortunes being lord of 9th house

> or it will cause losses being lord of 12th house? whether person

> having Aries asc. should wear yellow saphhiere to promote its basic

> features & significations of 9th house or by wearing it, will be

> harmful as it will increase losses as significating features of 12th

> house?

>

> looking forward for clarifications/comments.

> thanks & regards

> Rajas

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

 

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Partha,

I think u have mistaken, we were discussing how jupiter is FOR Aries

& not how jupiter IS in Aries.

Regards

Rajas

vedic astrology, "V.partha sarathy"

<partvinu5> wrote:

> Om Namah Shivaya

>

> Dear Sanjayji

>

> In your book i forgot which one( as there are so many which i am

> reading), you had mentioned that jupiter in Aries and scorpio is

not

> so good for finances.

>

> So Is it Jupiter granting Royal fortune to Aries applicable.

> regards

> partha

> om tat sat

>

> vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > ||Om brihaspataye namah||

> > Dear Rajas

> > The 12th lord shows the nature of expenses and devaguru ruling it

> shows

> > expenses on good causes. We all have to spend money and energy,

so

> is it not

> > good if this is spent on good things. Jupiter grants grand

fortune

> to Aries

> > and that is why Aries is called the ROYAL sign of the zodiac (Leo

> is NOT

> > ROYAL). The royalty for aries comes due to guru/sagittarius in

the

> ninth.

> > "Sri Ram Jaya Ram Jaya Jaya Ram"...sing this melody and see for

> yourself.

> > With best wishes & regards,

> > I remain

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

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> ------

> > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

> > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com <http://srath.com>

> >

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> ------

> >

> >

> >

> > astrorajas [astrorajas]

> > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:33 AM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] planet rulling good & bad houses

> > simultaneously

> >

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > say for Aries, Jupiter is the lord of 9th & 12th house.so if

Jupiter

> > is strong, whether it will promote fortunes being lord of 9th

house

> > or it will cause losses being lord of 12th house? whether person

> > having Aries asc. should wear yellow saphhiere to promote its

basic

> > features & significations of 9th house or by wearing it, will be

> > harmful as it will increase losses as significating features of

12th

> > house?

> >

> > looking forward for clarifications/comments.

> > thanks & regards

> > Rajas

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> >

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Rath,

Ok I understand ur views about jupiter, but my query was not

specifically for jupiter for Aries. In principle, I'm asking that if

a planet is lord of one good & one bad house, how to interprete its

significations if the same is strong or weak? what if instead of

Jupiter it is say Mercury ?

I hope I'm able to put my query in right manner.

thanks & regards

Rajas

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...>

wrote:

>

>

> ||Om brihaspataye namah||

> Dear Rajas

> The 12th lord shows the nature of expenses and devaguru ruling it

shows

> expenses on good causes. We all have to spend money and energy, so

is it not

> good if this is spent on good things. Jupiter grants grand fortune

to Aries

> and that is why Aries is called the ROYAL sign of the zodiac (Leo

is NOT

> ROYAL). The royalty for aries comes due to guru/sagittarius in the

ninth.

> "Sri Ram Jaya Ram Jaya Jaya Ram"...sing this melody and see for

yourself.

> With best wishes & regards,

> I remain

> Sanjay Rath

> --

------

> Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

> Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com <http://srath.com>

> --

------

>

>

>

> astrorajas [astrorajas]

> Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:33 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] planet rulling good & bad houses

> simultaneously

>

>

> Dear Friends,

> say for Aries, Jupiter is the lord of 9th & 12th house.so if Jupiter

> is strong, whether it will promote fortunes being lord of 9th house

> or it will cause losses being lord of 12th house? whether person

> having Aries asc. should wear yellow saphhiere to promote its basic

> features & significations of 9th house or by wearing it, will be

> harmful as it will increase losses as significating features of 12th

> house?

>

> looking forward for clarifications/comments.

> thanks & regards

> Rajas

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

 

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

 

[Guest guest]

§Om devaguru brihaspataye namah§

Dear Rajas,

We cannot forget the nature of the planet and only see lordships. We have to

see both. I wil give some examples for clarity:

 

Take the lordship of kendra by natural benefics. Here the natural beneficial

planets have a tendency to give even without asking because they are GOOD

souls. Now, when they rule kendras, they do not give as much and as easily.

If they are the tenth lord, they expect you to work before they declare you

successful, if they are the fourth lord, they expect you to do some kind

deed before they give you happiness and so on. Here the natural beneficence

of the benefic planet is reduced because of ownership of the kendra and this

is called kendradhipati dosha. It does not mean that the planet beco0mes

malefic, but that it expects you to do something first before it gives you

everything.

 

Next examine the ownership of the kendra by malefic planets. Now a planet

like Saturn for example, is a terrible task master and will make you kill

yourself before he gives you anything. If saturn ows the tenth house, then

he will give you success with relatively lessor amount of work. But tht does

not mean that saturn has become like Jupiter. He will make you work and will

extract a lot, but this will be relatively less than what he will do if he

is the lord of other houses and is placed or aspects the 10th house or lord.

Thus, relative to their nature, the natural malefic planet has become

beneficial and this is also due to its kendradhipatya.

 

Now when a planet owns a trine like say 5th or the best 9th house, then he

is a first rate benefic being inclined to protect you and help you. If the

benefic is also the lord of a bad house, then the danger of obstruction to

the flow of good fortune comes in. Say we take Mercury as the lord of 9th

and 12th house for Libra lagna. Here Mercury is a first rate benefic as the

ninth lord and being a natural benefic, it will tend to ignore your flaws

indicated by the 12th house and give you good fortune. Here there is a

'small condition' attached. Mercury will want that you share some of the

great things he gives you with others indicated by Virgo or planets in Virgo

or UL. In this manner the 'other house' ownership of Mercury is the

condition atached to the powers of the benefic to give.

 

With best wishes & regards,

Yours truly,

Sanjay Rath

___

H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014

http://srath.com http://.org

 

 

astrorajas [astrorajas]

Thursday, May 15, 2003 5:32 PM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Re: planet rulling good & bad houses

simultaneously

 

Dear Mr. Rath,

Ok I understand ur views about jupiter, but my query was not

specifically for jupiter for Aries. In principle, I'm asking that if

a planet is lord of one good & one bad house, how to interprete its

significations if the same is strong or weak? what if instead of

Jupiter it is say Mercury ?

I hope I'm able to put my query in right manner.

thanks & regards

Rajas

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...>

wrote:

>

>

> ||Om brihaspataye namah||

> Dear Rajas

> The 12th lord shows the nature of expenses and devaguru ruling it

shows

> expenses on good causes. We all have to spend money and energy, so

is it not

> good if this is spent on good things. Jupiter grants grand fortune

to Aries

> and that is why Aries is called the ROYAL sign of the zodiac (Leo

is NOT

> ROYAL). The royalty for aries comes due to guru/sagittarius in the

ninth.

> "Sri Ram Jaya Ram Jaya Jaya Ram"...sing this melody and see for

yourself.

> With best wishes & regards,

> I remain

> Sanjay Rath

> --

------

> Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

> Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com <http://srath.com>

> --

------

>

>

>

> astrorajas [astrorajas]

> Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:33 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] planet rulling good & bad houses

> simultaneously

>

>

> Dear Friends,

> say for Aries, Jupiter is the lord of 9th & 12th house.so if Jupiter

> is strong, whether it will promote fortunes being lord of 9th house

> or it will cause losses being lord of 12th house? whether person

> having Aries asc. should wear yellow saphhiere to promote its basic

> features & significations of 9th house or by wearing it, will be

> harmful as it will increase losses as significating features of 12th

> house?

>

> looking forward for clarifications/comments.

> thanks & regards

> Rajas

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

 

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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II JAY GURUDEV II

Dear Sanjayji,

Thanks a lot for such detail explnation. I'm clear about effect of

benefic planet being lord of good & bad house. I presume that in such

case strengthing such benefic planet by using its stone will be good

only & will not create any harmful effect as being lord of the bad

house.

As Jupiter is a holy planet, what u mention about the same for Aries,

does it hold good for Capricorn Asc as well where Jup becomes lord of

12th & 3rd house ? (i.e. the expenditure will be for good cause? also

it's ok when we say that it is for good cause but practically we also

need to see whether the same is within the limits means it should not

happen that expenditure though for good cause exceeds income.

 

about kendradhipati dosha, my understanding was that if a planet

holds 2 kendras then only it is a kendradhipati dosha, pl correct me

if i'm wrong. also whether this dosha is for benefic planet only?

what u mentioned for Mercury being lord of 9/12th house, what happens

in case of ?Saturn being lord opf 11th & 12th house? whether it gives

good result being lord of 11th house? or its bad effect being lord of

12th house supercedes?

 

as u said the basic nature of planet has to be considered, the same

applies for 'papgraha', am i right? so does it mean that if a

papgraha is lord of good house say 5/9th house, still it will give

some bad results wrt these houses &/or it's aspect on other

houses/planets will remain bad eventhough it is a lord of good house?

if such planet is weak, is it advisable to strengthn it by wearing

stone to promote significations of the good house?

 

whether shani sadesati remains bad for all asc? even in case where

shani is lord of 4&5th House or 10&11th house or 9&10th house or

1&2nd house?

 

sorry for so many questions at a time. hope to get ur kind

explanation.

thanks & regards

Rajas

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...>

wrote:

>

>

> §Om devaguru brihaspataye namah§

> Dear Rajas,

> We cannot forget the nature of the planet and only see lordships.

We have to

> see both. I wil give some examples for clarity:

>

> Take the lordship of kendra by natural benefics. Here the natural

beneficial

> planets have a tendency to give even without asking because they

are GOOD

> souls. Now, when they rule kendras, they do not give as much and as

easily.

> If they are the tenth lord, they expect you to work before they

declare you

> successful, if they are the fourth lord, they expect you to do some

kind

> deed before they give you happiness and so on. Here the natural

beneficence

> of the benefic planet is reduced because of ownership of the kendra

and this

> is called kendradhipati dosha. It does not mean that the planet

beco0mes

> malefic, but that it expects you to do something first before it

gives you

> everything.

>

> Next examine the ownership of the kendra by malefic planets. Now a

planet

> like Saturn for example, is a terrible task master and will make

you kill

> yourself before he gives you anything. If saturn ows the tenth

house, then

> he will give you success with relatively lessor amount of work. But

tht does

> not mean that saturn has become like Jupiter. He will make you work

and will

> extract a lot, but this will be relatively less than what he will

do if he

> is the lord of other houses and is placed or aspects the 10th house

or lord.

> Thus, relative to their nature, the natural malefic planet has

become

> beneficial and this is also due to its kendradhipatya.

>

> Now when a planet owns a trine like say 5th or the best 9th house,

then he

> is a first rate benefic being inclined to protect you and help you.

If the

> benefic is also the lord of a bad house, then the danger of

obstruction to

> the flow of good fortune comes in. Say we take Mercury as the lord

of 9th

> and 12th house for Libra lagna. Here Mercury is a first rate

benefic as the

> ninth lord and being a natural benefic, it will tend to ignore your

flaws

> indicated by the 12th house and give you good fortune. Here there

is a

> 'small condition' attached. Mercury will want that you share some

of the

> great things he gives you with others indicated by Virgo or planets

in Virgo

> or UL. In this manner the 'other house' ownership of Mercury is the

> condition atached to the powers of the benefic to give.

>

> With best wishes & regards,

> Yours truly,

> Sanjay Rath

> ___

> H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014

> http://srath.com http://.org

>

>

> astrorajas [astrorajas]

> Thursday, May 15, 2003 5:32 PM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: planet rulling good & bad houses

> simultaneously

>

> Dear Mr. Rath,

> Ok I understand ur views about jupiter, but my query was not

> specifically for jupiter for Aries. In principle, I'm asking that if

> a planet is lord of one good & one bad house, how to interprete its

> significations if the same is strong or weak? what if instead of

> Jupiter it is say Mercury ?

> I hope I'm able to put my query in right manner.

> thanks & regards

> Rajas

> vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > ||Om brihaspataye namah||

> > Dear Rajas

> > The 12th lord shows the nature of expenses and devaguru ruling it

> shows

> > expenses on good causes. We all have to spend money and energy, so

> is it not

> > good if this is spent on good things. Jupiter grants grand fortune

> to Aries

> > and that is why Aries is called the ROYAL sign of the zodiac (Leo

> is NOT

> > ROYAL). The royalty for aries comes due to guru/sagittarius in the

> ninth.

> > "Sri Ram Jaya Ram Jaya Jaya Ram"...sing this melody and see for

> yourself.

> > With best wishes & regards,

> > I remain

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

--

> ------

> > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

> > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com <http://srath.com>

> >

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> ------

> >

> >

> >

> > astrorajas [astrorajas]

> > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:33 AM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] planet rulling good & bad houses

> > simultaneously

> >

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > say for Aries, Jupiter is the lord of 9th & 12th house.so if

Jupiter

> > is strong, whether it will promote fortunes being lord of 9th

house

> > or it will cause losses being lord of 12th house? whether person

> > having Aries asc. should wear yellow saphhiere to promote its

basic

> > features & significations of 9th house or by wearing it, will be

> > harmful as it will increase losses as significating features of

12th

> > house?

> >

> > looking forward for clarifications/comments.

> > thanks & regards

> > Rajas

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> >

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

 

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

 

[Guest guest]

§Om devaguru brihaspataye namah§

Dear Rajas

Comments are given below

With best wishes & regards,

Yours truly,

Sanjay Rath

___

H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014

http://srath.com http://.org

 

 

astrorajas [astrorajas]

Friday, May 16, 2003 11:39 AM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Re: planet rulling good & bad houses

simultaneously

 

II JAY GURUDEV II

Dear Sanjayji,

Thanks a lot for such detail explnation. I'm clear about effect of

benefic planet being lord of good & bad house. I presume that in such

case strengthing such benefic planet by using its stone will be good

only & will not create any harmful effect as being lord of the bad

house.

Of course. Unless it is the bädhaka, there is no reason to worry at all. In

fact the use of a diamond for Libra or Taurus lagna, Emerald for

Gemini/Virgo and yellow sapphire for Pisces/Sagittarius and pearl for Caner

lagna is always recommended.

 

As Jupiter is a holy planet, what u mention about the same for Aries,

does it hold good for Capricorn Asc as well where Jup becomes lord of

12th & 3rd house ? (i.e. the expenditure will be for good cause? also

it's ok when we say that it is for good cause but practically we also

need to see whether the same is within the limits means it should not

happen that expenditure though for good cause exceeds income.

Many classical texts say that this placement of Jupiter in debility in lagna

is very good for Capricorn. It ensures a good and learned spouse and the

person although a non-believer in subjects like astrology, shall be of good

temperament and a good person. But health may not be good especially when

mental tension comes. They will always get money to meet their expenses.

 

about kendradhipati dosha, my understanding was that if a planet

holds 2 kendras then only it is a kendradhipati dosha, pl correct me

if i'm wrong.

The shastras do not mention 2 kendras. Even if planet owns one kendra, the

'kendradhipatya' criteria comes into play.

also whether this dosha is for benefic planet only?

I have already explained.

 

what u mentioned for Mercury being lord of 9/12th house, what happens

in case of ?Saturn being lord opf 11th & 12th house? whether it gives

good result being lord of 11th house? or its bad effect being lord of

12th house supercedes?

11th is not a good house and just because 'labha' or gains are attributed to

it, it should not be construed as a good house. It is a trika and an

upachaya. So if Saturn owns 11 & 12 it is evil no doubt.

as u said the basic nature of planet has to be considered, the same

applies for 'papgraha', am i right? so does it mean that if a

papgraha is lord of good house say 5/9th house, still it will give

some bad results wrt these houses &/or it's aspect on other

houses/planets will remain bad eventhough it is a lord of good house?

Yes. It will do both. Its station or aspect of one house will indicate the

results that will predominate.

 

if such planet is weak, is it advisable to strengthn it by wearing

stone to promote significations of the good house?

Yes, if it is the lord of 5 or 9, it is recommended so that it becomes

beneficial and gives more good results.

 

whether shani sadesati remains bad for all asc? even in case where

shani is lord of 4&5th House or 10&11th house or 9&10th house or

1&2nd house?

No comments now as this is a very big topic

 

sorry for so many questions at a time. hope to get ur kind

explanation.

thanks & regards

Rajas

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...>

wrote:

>

>

> §Om devaguru brihaspataye namah§

> Dear Rajas,

> We cannot forget the nature of the planet and only see lordships.

We have to

> see both. I wil give some examples for clarity:

>

> Take the lordship of kendra by natural benefics. Here the natural

beneficial

> planets have a tendency to give even without asking because they

are GOOD

> souls. Now, when they rule kendras, they do not give as much and as

easily.

> If they are the tenth lord, they expect you to work before they

declare you

> successful, if they are the fourth lord, they expect you to do some

kind

> deed before they give you happiness and so on. Here the natural

beneficence

> of the benefic planet is reduced because of ownership of the kendra

and this

> is called kendradhipati dosha. It does not mean that the planet

beco0mes

> malefic, but that it expects you to do something first before it

gives you

> everything.

>

> Next examine the ownership of the kendra by malefic planets. Now a

planet

> like Saturn for example, is a terrible task master and will make

you kill

> yourself before he gives you anything. If saturn ows the tenth

house, then

> he will give you success with relatively lessor amount of work. But

tht does

> not mean that saturn has become like Jupiter. He will make you work

and will

> extract a lot, but this will be relatively less than what he will

do if he

> is the lord of other houses and is placed or aspects the 10th house

or lord.

> Thus, relative to their nature, the natural malefic planet has

become

> beneficial and this is also due to its kendradhipatya.

>

> Now when a planet owns a trine like say 5th or the best 9th house,

then he

> is a first rate benefic being inclined to protect you and help you.

If the

> benefic is also the lord of a bad house, then the danger of

obstruction to

> the flow of good fortune comes in. Say we take Mercury as the lord

of 9th

> and 12th house for Libra lagna. Here Mercury is a first rate

benefic as the

> ninth lord and being a natural benefic, it will tend to ignore your

flaws

> indicated by the 12th house and give you good fortune. Here there

is a

> 'small condition' attached. Mercury will want that you share some

of the

> great things he gives you with others indicated by Virgo or planets

in Virgo

> or UL. In this manner the 'other house' ownership of Mercury is the

> condition atached to the powers of the benefic to give.

>

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> Yours truly,

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> astrorajas [astrorajas]

> Thursday, May 15, 2003 5:32 PM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: planet rulling good & bad houses

> simultaneously

>

> Dear Mr. Rath,

> Ok I understand ur views about jupiter, but my query was not

> specifically for jupiter for Aries. In principle, I'm asking that if

> a planet is lord of one good & one bad house, how to interprete its

> significations if the same is strong or weak? what if instead of

> Jupiter it is say Mercury ?

> I hope I'm able to put my query in right manner.

> thanks & regards

> Rajas

> vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > ||Om brihaspataye namah||

> > Dear Rajas

> > The 12th lord shows the nature of expenses and devaguru ruling it

> shows

> > expenses on good causes. We all have to spend money and energy, so

> is it not

> > good if this is spent on good things. Jupiter grants grand fortune

> to Aries

> > and that is why Aries is called the ROYAL sign of the zodiac (Leo

> is NOT

> > ROYAL). The royalty for aries comes due to guru/sagittarius in the

> ninth.

> > "Sri Ram Jaya Ram Jaya Jaya Ram"...sing this melody and see for

> yourself.

> > With best wishes & regards,

> > I remain

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

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> > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:33 AM

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> > [vedic astrology] planet rulling good & bad houses

> > simultaneously

> >

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > say for Aries, Jupiter is the lord of 9th & 12th house.so if

Jupiter

> > is strong, whether it will promote fortunes being lord of 9th

house

> > or it will cause losses being lord of 12th house? whether person

> > having Aries asc. should wear yellow saphhiere to promote its

basic

> > features & significations of 9th house or by wearing it, will be

> > harmful as it will increase losses as significating features of

12th

> > house?

> >

> > looking forward for clarifications/comments.

> > thanks & regards

> > Rajas

> >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sanjayji,

 

Thanks a lot for detail explanation. About shani sadesati, I agree

that it is a big topic, but if it is not possible to answer my

queries in brief, can u suggest any source on the net where i can get

answers to my questions?

 

from ur explanation, I'm still not able to understand the following?

will be greatful if u reclarify/confirm :

1) what u mentioned about jupiter being lord of 12th house whether

the same applies for capricorn asc. which also have jupiter as 12th

house (i.e. the expenditure will be for good reasons & will not be

bad/harmful)

 

2) whether pap graha have kendradhipati dosha?

 

thanks & regards

Rajas

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...>

wrote:

>

>

> §Om devaguru brihaspataye namah§

> Dear Rajas

> Comments are given below

> With best wishes & regards,

> Yours truly,

> Sanjay Rath

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> astrorajas [astrorajas]

> Friday, May 16, 2003 11:39 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: planet rulling good & bad houses

> simultaneously

>

> II JAY GURUDEV II

> Dear Sanjayji,

> Thanks a lot for such detail explnation. I'm clear about effect of

> benefic planet being lord of good & bad house. I presume that in

such

> case strengthing such benefic planet by using its stone will be good

> only & will not create any harmful effect as being lord of the bad

> house.

> Of course. Unless it is the bädhaka, there is no reason to worry at

all. In

> fact the use of a diamond for Libra or Taurus lagna, Emerald for

> Gemini/Virgo and yellow sapphire for Pisces/Sagittarius and pearl

for Caner

> lagna is always recommended.

>

> As Jupiter is a holy planet, what u mention about the same for

Aries,

> does it hold good for Capricorn Asc as well where Jup becomes lord

of

> 12th & 3rd house ? (i.e. the expenditure will be for good cause?

also

> it's ok when we say that it is for good cause but practically we

also

> need to see whether the same is within the limits means it should

not

> happen that expenditure though for good cause exceeds income.

> Many classical texts say that this placement of Jupiter in debility

in lagna

> is very good for Capricorn. It ensures a good and learned spouse

and the

> person although a non-believer in subjects like astrology, shall be

of good

> temperament and a good person. But health may not be good

especially when

> mental tension comes. They will always get money to meet their

expenses.

>

> about kendradhipati dosha, my understanding was that if a planet

> holds 2 kendras then only it is a kendradhipati dosha, pl correct me

> if i'm wrong.

> The shastras do not mention 2 kendras. Even if planet owns one

kendra, the

> 'kendradhipatya' criteria comes into play.

> also whether this dosha is for benefic planet only?

> I have already explained.

>

> what u mentioned for Mercury being lord of 9/12th house, what

happens

> in case of ?Saturn being lord opf 11th & 12th house? whether it

gives

> good result being lord of 11th house? or its bad effect being lord

of

> 12th house supercedes?

> 11th is not a good house and just because 'labha' or gains are

attributed to

> it, it should not be construed as a good house. It is a trika and an

> upachaya. So if Saturn owns 11 & 12 it is evil no doubt.

> as u said the basic nature of planet has to be considered, the same

> applies for 'papgraha', am i right? so does it mean that if a

> papgraha is lord of good house say 5/9th house, still it will give

> some bad results wrt these houses &/or it's aspect on other

> houses/planets will remain bad eventhough it is a lord of good

house?

> Yes. It will do both. Its station or aspect of one house will

indicate the

> results that will predominate.

>

> if such planet is weak, is it advisable to strengthn it by wearing

> stone to promote significations of the good house?

> Yes, if it is the lord of 5 or 9, it is recommended so that it

becomes

> beneficial and gives more good results.

>

> whether shani sadesati remains bad for all asc? even in case where

> shani is lord of 4&5th House or 10&11th house or 9&10th house or

> 1&2nd house?

> No comments now as this is a very big topic

>

> sorry for so many questions at a time. hope to get ur kind

> explanation.

> thanks & regards

> Rajas

> vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > §Om devaguru brihaspataye namah§

> > Dear Rajas,

> > We cannot forget the nature of the planet and only see lordships.

> We have to

> > see both. I wil give some examples for clarity:

> >

> > Take the lordship of kendra by natural benefics. Here the natural

> beneficial

> > planets have a tendency to give even without asking because they

> are GOOD

> > souls. Now, when they rule kendras, they do not give as much and

as

> easily.

> > If they are the tenth lord, they expect you to work before they

> declare you

> > successful, if they are the fourth lord, they expect you to do

some

> kind

> > deed before they give you happiness and so on. Here the natural

> beneficence

> > of the benefic planet is reduced because of ownership of the

kendra

> and this

> > is called kendradhipati dosha. It does not mean that the planet

> beco0mes

> > malefic, but that it expects you to do something first before it

> gives you

> > everything.

> >

> > Next examine the ownership of the kendra by malefic planets. Now a

> planet

> > like Saturn for example, is a terrible task master and will make

> you kill

> > yourself before he gives you anything. If saturn ows the tenth

> house, then

> > he will give you success with relatively lessor amount of work.

But

> tht does

> > not mean that saturn has become like Jupiter. He will make you

work

> and will

> > extract a lot, but this will be relatively less than what he will

> do if he

> > is the lord of other houses and is placed or aspects the 10th

house

> or lord.

> > Thus, relative to their nature, the natural malefic planet has

> become

> > beneficial and this is also due to its kendradhipatya.

> >

> > Now when a planet owns a trine like say 5th or the best 9th house,

> then he

> > is a first rate benefic being inclined to protect you and help

you.

> If the

> > benefic is also the lord of a bad house, then the danger of

> obstruction to

> > the flow of good fortune comes in. Say we take Mercury as the lord

> of 9th

> > and 12th house for Libra lagna. Here Mercury is a first rate

> benefic as the

> > ninth lord and being a natural benefic, it will tend to ignore

your

> flaws

> > indicated by the 12th house and give you good fortune. Here there

> is a

> > 'small condition' attached. Mercury will want that you share some

> of the

> > great things he gives you with others indicated by Virgo or

planets

> in Virgo

> > or UL. In this manner the 'other house' ownership of Mercury is

the

> > condition atached to the powers of the benefic to give.

> >

> > With best wishes & regards,

> > Yours truly,

> > Sanjay Rath

> > ___

> > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014

> > http://srath.com http://.org

> >

> >

> > astrorajas [astrorajas]

> > Thursday, May 15, 2003 5:32 PM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: planet rulling good & bad houses

> > simultaneously

> >

> > Dear Mr. Rath,

> > Ok I understand ur views about jupiter, but my query was not

> > specifically for jupiter for Aries. In principle, I'm asking that

if

> > a planet is lord of one good & one bad house, how to interprete

its

> > significations if the same is strong or weak? what if instead of

> > Jupiter it is say Mercury ?

> > I hope I'm able to put my query in right manner.

> > thanks & regards

> > Rajas

> > vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > ||Om brihaspataye namah||

> > > Dear Rajas

> > > The 12th lord shows the nature of expenses and devaguru ruling

it

> > shows

> > > expenses on good causes. We all have to spend money and energy,

so

> > is it not

> > > good if this is spent on good things. Jupiter grants grand

fortune

> > to Aries

> > > and that is why Aries is called the ROYAL sign of the zodiac

(Leo

> > is NOT

> > > ROYAL). The royalty for aries comes due to guru/sagittarius in

the

> > ninth.

> > > "Sri Ram Jaya Ram Jaya Jaya Ram"...sing this melody and see for

> > yourself.

> > > With best wishes & regards,

> > > I remain

> > > Sanjay Rath

> > > -------------------------------

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> > ------

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> > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com

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> > > astrorajas [astrorajas]

> > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:33 AM

> > > vedic astrology

> > > [vedic astrology] planet rulling good & bad houses

> > > simultaneously

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Friends,

> > > say for Aries, Jupiter is the lord of 9th & 12th house.so if

> Jupiter

> > > is strong, whether it will promote fortunes being lord of 9th

> house

> > > or it will cause losses being lord of 12th house? whether person

> > > having Aries asc. should wear yellow saphhiere to promote its

> basic

> > > features & significations of 9th house or by wearing it, will be

> > > harmful as it will increase losses as significating features of

> 12th

> > > house?

> > >

> > > looking forward for clarifications/comments.

> > > thanks & regards

> > > Rajas

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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