the science of soul-> Pradeep

[Guest guest]

Dear pradeep

 

The soul takes decisions based on the karma, it is eternally free in

the sense that it can decide on where and when to take birth. It

wants to have sufficient experience before the final calling.

 

Here lies the problem. The soul enters the gross body, which is the

lowest unit in the universe.

The mind is so small that it can only percieve and understand through

the "five senses". Most of the people in this world think that they

are the body, they are the "Pradeeps" and they are the "Partha

sarathy's", infact this identification with the gross is "necessary"

because unless we see the gross, the subtle cannot be understood.

 

There are seven states of evolution, from the mooladhara to the

sahasrara. We all go through different states because we have

to "experience", it is a "must" before the final emancipation,before

the returning to the mooladhara(return to the innocence)

 

We should never say that this is good, or that is bad etc, because

all are "needed" to go further.,

 

Some take many life times to get over "drinking, smoking" etc, then

they take some more life times to get vairagya over "power, fame ,

position", some take another few life times to get vairagya

over "intellect, Titles, arudhas, false intelligence, bookish

knowledge, bookish knowledge of vedas etc".

 

This gross identification over body, mind and intellect must go. When

everything is dissolved one can meditate over Atman, the Brahman,

with desires left in the body nothing is possible.

 

People are often mislead by false teachers, who seek their own

goodwill. They are told that by doing bhajans keertans, by doing

pooja path, by reciting mantras all the sins would be washed off.

 

One must understand, that this is simple case of self deception. We

are decieving our own souls, our own selves.

Why do people follow the babas and fakirs, the reason is simple. The

mind wants a quick fix solution. Despite sitting in ashrams and doing

all kinds of bhajans, people still complain and weep. Is the world

today much better due to all our gross identifications. Are the

people happy, what is required for moksha is happiness. 4th house.

then comes the transformation 8th house. and finally emancipation-

12th house.

 

I will write a book in detail integrating chakras, astrology and

spirituality. Spirituality doesnot mean reciting Gayatri mantra

without knowing the science of Gayatri. The science of God has to be

understood.

Astrology is not respected worldwide, and most people make fun of it

because people think it is unscientific. Most of the teachers are to

be blamed, because they propogate it as such. Astrology is

not "different" from other sciences. All are one, it is MAYA that

separates the the divine light into many. And we ourselves should not

be trapped by naming it as "mystic" etc.

All the source is one sound "OM" chant OM.

love

 

 

 

 

parthavedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> Dear Partha Ji

>

> Forgive me for my previous questions regarding your personal

> experiences.I can only pray for your eyes and let the almighty

bless

> you with all good health and knowledge.I have seen the list of

Gurus

> in files section.Some times i feel, am i losing courage to learn

> astrology?But then as you have said it is all decided above and we

> cannot move an inch without his knowledge.When we say the soul

> decides,is the soul asking for another chance or is the soul asking

> for a postponement?

>

> Respect

> Pradeep

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ParthaSarathy ji

 

The mail was enlightening!

I believe meeting different people is also a nimitta, which saves the

soul from taking some births and skip forward.

I have some doubts.Once the soul returns back to the mooladhara or in

my layman language when the soul is free of all desires(fully happy

and satisfied as you have mentioned) what does it do?

Because learning is only needed when the soul acquires properties

of 'Kalanakatha' and continue the learning until it

attains 'nishkalankatha' or the innocence which you have mentioned.

So can i say it enters in the most purest form as in the case of

blessed souls like Bhagavan Ramachandra,whenever necessary.Because i

dont think the soul is entering every child in its purest form. The

child is innocent in the beginning because the organs(senses) which

can understand the soul were not mature enough?

 

So how should we understand this pure form?Is it the same supreme

soul appearing in numerous numbers and entering various bodies?So the

same supreme soul is learning different lessons in different bodies?

I cannot understand this Maya!Help me here.

 

Though i know and tell my mind that, you should be humble and your

learning and knowledge is very little - once in a while i feel i know

everything -which is ahamkara and false knowledge! Now you have

taught me that nothing is good or bad, one should experience and

learn!I have heard and read this statement many times but somehow my

mind didnt realise the real meaning!I can now understand the meaning -

when someone had told me, Saraswati Devi is the embodiment of all

knowledge and can still sit on a lotus leaf without sinking - The

weightlessness inspite of all knowledge is the result of the real

learning!

 

I have felt bad at times the way some learned members behave,but then

i have learned now, it is not bad, it is again a learning process for

them and myself!

I have felt always the sincere prayer from an uninitiated is similar

to the mantra coming from a learned soul.Thus i understand the

meaning of - 'Praying to Savitri devi through Gayatri mantra'

without understanding the meaning is worthless!

 

I can feel more light which i have been feeling after joining the

group and meeting many 'weightless' learned souls!But again i have

learned from you, 'weight' is also not bad as it is also a learning.I

think my ahamkara is still there within me in a very big way,thats

why i made this 'weight'statement.I want to learn and i pray to

learn, i dont want to hide the feeling i have in me!All may forgive

me!

 

Love and Respect

Pradeep

 

vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

<partvinu5> wrote:

> Dear pradeep

>

> The soul takes decisions based on the karma, it is eternally free

in

> the sense that it can decide on where and when to take birth. It

> wants to have sufficient experience before the final calling.

>

> Here lies the problem. The soul enters the gross body, which is the

> lowest unit in the universe.

> The mind is so small that it can only percieve and understand

through

> the "five senses". Most of the people in this world think that they

> are the body, they are the "Pradeeps" and they are the "Partha

> sarathy's", infact this identification with the gross

is "necessary"

> because unless we see the gross, the subtle cannot be understood.

>

> There are seven states of evolution, from the mooladhara to the

> sahasrara. We all go through different states because we have

> to "experience", it is a "must" before the final

emancipation,before

> the returning to the mooladhara(return to the innocence)

>

> We should never say that this is good, or that is bad etc, because

> all are "needed" to go further.,

>

> Some take many life times to get over "drinking, smoking" etc, then

> they take some more life times to get vairagya over "power, fame ,

> position", some take another few life times to get vairagya

> over "intellect, Titles, arudhas, false intelligence, bookish

> knowledge, bookish knowledge of vedas etc".

>

> This gross identification over body, mind and intellect must go.

When

> everything is dissolved one can meditate over Atman, the Brahman,

> with desires left in the body nothing is possible.

>

> People are often mislead by false teachers, who seek their own

> goodwill. They are told that by doing bhajans keertans, by doing

> pooja path, by reciting mantras all the sins would be washed off.

>

> One must understand, that this is simple case of self deception. We

> are decieving our own souls, our own selves.

> Why do people follow the babas and fakirs, the reason is simple.

The

> mind wants a quick fix solution. Despite sitting in ashrams and

doing

> all kinds of bhajans, people still complain and weep. Is the world

> today much better due to all our gross identifications. Are the

> people happy, what is required for moksha is happiness. 4th house.

> then comes the transformation 8th house. and finally emancipation-

> 12th house.

>

> I will write a book in detail integrating chakras, astrology and

> spirituality. Spirituality doesnot mean reciting Gayatri mantra

> without knowing the science of Gayatri. The science of God has to

be

> understood.

> Astrology is not respected worldwide, and most people make fun of

it

> because people think it is unscientific. Most of the teachers are

to

> be blamed, because they propogate it as such. Astrology is

> not "different" from other sciences. All are one, it is MAYA that

> separates the the divine light into many. And we ourselves should

not

> be trapped by naming it as "mystic" etc.

> All the source is one sound "OM" chant OM.

> love

>

>

>

>

> parthavedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > Dear Partha Ji

> >

> > Forgive me for my previous questions regarding your personal

> > experiences.I can only pray for your eyes and let the almighty

> bless

> > you with all good health and knowledge.I have seen the list of

> Gurus

> > in files section.Some times i feel, am i losing courage to learn

> > astrology?But then as you have said it is all decided above and

we

> > cannot move an inch without his knowledge.When we say the soul

> > decides,is the soul asking for another chance or is the soul

asking

> > for a postponement?

> >

> > Respect

> > Pradeep

> >