Guest guest Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 Dear Shri.Rao, May I ask a question here.Regarding marriage,is your analysis of AL and UL based on the Rasi chart or D9 or are we take both?If so how to blend them?.Suppose in the Rasi UL is 5th from AL and in D9 it is 12th from AL, how can we read them? Regards Kaimal Rao Nemani <raon1008 <vedic astrology> Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:47 PM [vedic astrology] Re: UL and AL placements > Hare Rama Krishna, > > Dear KPK, > > Let me attempt to give few principles related to UL and AL > based on my understanding and studies so far. > > I was tought by Guru Ji to see first the basics of any > matter which we are interested in. So let see the basic > building blocks for the the marriage and add the UL and AL > components on the top of it. > > Marriage is basically a dharma, so first thing we need to > see is whether native can marry and also we must determine > whether the native has capability to give. > > This is done by seeing the relationship between Arudha > Lagna and Upapada Lagna: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 Dear Shri.Rao, Pranams! Thank you taking the trouble answer my layman's level questions.I am happy that it has generated a lot of interest and many mails arecoming in response to it.Can you also please be kind enough to say something about the aspects on various houses from UL?Every body is saying only about the planets in various houses from UL and there is no mention about aspects.Is it that from UL in D9,aspects on the houses from it do not matter? Regards Kaimal - Rao Nemani <raon1008 <vedic astrology> Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:13 PM [vedic astrology] Re: UL and AL placements > Hare Rama Krishna > > Namaste Kaimal Ji, > > Let me attempt to answer to your question with my beginners > knowledge, and request Guru's to correct me if I wrong. > > Marriage itself is a step from the sensual desire, to the > institution of dharmic/legal union. Hence this is seen from > the 9th house and the results of marriage are seen from the > Navamsa (D-9) divisional chart. Let us take few examples > of using Navamsa with the following exampels:- > * The 2nd house from Upapada shows the troubles to marriage > * A benefic planet/sign in the 2nd from Upapada will give the > spouse a beautiful face etc., > > Where as the Rasi is the base for the native in everything, > so we have to consider the UL placement with respect to AL > in Rasi only and the results of the marriage to be seen from > Navamsa ( D-9 ). > > Now regarding placement of Upapada is in 5th/9th from Arudha > Lagna in Rasi, I have already wrote y'day, so you may please > refer to that. > > Hope this explanation may be of a little help to you. > > Regards > Raghunadha Rao > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 How about UL is 5th from AL?? Regards Raji Rao Nemani <raon1008 > wrote: Hare Rama Krishna,Dear KPK,Let me attempt to give few principles related to UL and AL based on my understanding and studies so far.I was tought by Guru Ji to see first the basics of any matter which we are interested in. So let see the basic building blocks for the the marriage and add the UL and AL components on the top of it.Marriage is basically a dharma, so first thing we need to see is whether native can marry and also we must determine whether the native has capability to give. This is done by seeing the relationship between Arudha Lagna and Upapada Lagna:Now coming to your question:Let us take few examples and see what relationship we can find from that.* If the Upapada is in the 12th from Arudha Lagna, the native ignores the spouse, eventhough the spouse is a good person. As you know, 12th house is "Vyaya Sthana" which represents Loss, so if UL is placed here then by ignoring the spouse only the native' losses some thing isn't it.* If the Upapada is in the 7th house from Arudha Lagna, the native perceives marriage as an obstruction to their ideals and this could delay marriage. As you know, 7th house represents "Bharya-sthan / Maraka-sthan", and also desires, so combining those principels with the placement of UL in this house, we can see clearly how the native perceives the marriage as an obstruction to their ideals.Like this, I would take the basic principles and continuemy analysis.Request Guru's and Learned Members to correct me if my thinking is not correct.RegardsRaghunadha Rao--- In vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar" <kpkanitkar> wrote:> Hello All,> I Have one question regarding UL. How to Relate UL with Respect to > AL?> > what if UL is 12th to AL or UL is 2nd to AL or like that? Does i > hold some significance say UL is say X house from AL? are there any > astrological principals ?> > Regards> KPK> > --- In vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" <raon1008> > wrote:> > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > Namaste Visti Ji,> > > > Thank you very much for such a wonderful message, see how can> > I miss the Grahana (Eclipse) for Chandra with Ketu. > > > > When I think deeply on what you wrote, it makes a much sense> > on the Moon+Ketu is an extreme situations. Thanks for teaching> > a wonderful thing. Please remember, my mission is learn from you> > Guru's and pass it on to the next. Thanks for your teachings.> > I am leaning everyday from you all.> > > > Regards> > Raghunadha Rao> > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > > <balabhadra@j...> wrote:> > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > > Dear Rao,> > > Here's a quote from an old mail of Sanjayji's: > > > "The biggest problem in the charts of both prostitutes and > saints > > is the> > > Upapada and here it is afflicted by the Chandra-grahana yoga > i.e. > > spouse> > > will be extremely spiritual or none at all."> > > > > > Here Chandra-Grahana Yoga is Moon+Ketu Yoga. > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.plaxo.com/signature/> Powered by Plaxo ... Want a > > signature> > > like this? > > > > > > > > > Rao Nemani [raon1008] > > > Monday, November 10, 2003 10:14 PM> > > vedic astrology> > > [vedic astrology] Re: UL> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,> > > > > > Dear Raji,> > > > > > Regarding Moon and Kety in UL, the following is my > > > understanding:-> > > > > > * Moon in Upapada can give a very caring and compassionate > > > spouse, with a more pleasant and calming face like that of > > > the full-moon. One will have a happy marriage.> > > > > > * Ketu in Upapada can give marriage to a spiritual/god-fearing > > > spouse. A spouse from a different culture, or a protector > > > of thieves (lawyer), all depending on the yoga's/placement > > > of Ketu. The spouse may tend to be extremely nagging and > > > argumentative until a child is born of the relationship.> > > > > > May I request Guru's and Leanred members to correct me if > > > my thinkig is not correct.> > > > > > Regards> > > Raghunadha Rao> > > --- In vedic astrology, "rajeswarishankar" > > > <rajeswarishankar> wrote:> > > > HI List,> > > > > > > > what about the planets ketu & Moon in UL??> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > Raji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://rd./M=267637.4116730.5333196.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1> 7> > 05> > > > > > 082686:HM/A=1853618/R=0/SIG=11ts59qjv/*http:/www.netflix.com/Default?> > mqs> > > o=60178338&partid=4116730> click here> > > > > > > > > <http://us.adserver./l?> > M=267637.4116730.5333196.1261774/D=egrou> > > pmail/S=:HM/A=1853618/rand=571071879> > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 Yeah.I know that 4th house is for matru sthana . Regards Raji Rao Nemani <raon1008 > wrote: Hare Rama KrishnaDear Raji,I am sorry, for the typo, 5th house represents "Putra Sthana",and rest is fine.RegardsRaghunadha RaoP.S: Thanks to Sai Kumar for pointing my error.vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" <raon1008> wrote:> Hare Rama Krishna> > Dear Raji,> > Let us see again the basics of the 5th house to answer your> question. 5th house represents "Matru Sthana / Sukha Sthana".> > So, when UL is in 5th from AL, then the native will be in good > harmony with the "Matru and Sukha Sthana", hence the native > will have a happy marriage, isn't it.> > The same can be extended for the 9th (Bhagya Sthana) house as well.> > As Narasimha Ji had mentioned several times in "Achyuta CD",> one who understands the basics of the Vedic Astrology clearly, then > analysis will be easier for any matter/placement.> > Hope this may be of a little help.> > Regards> Raghunadha Rao> > vedic astrology, Rajeswari Shankar > <rajeswarishankar> wrote:> > Hi Rao,> > > > How about UL is 5th from AL??> > > > Regards> > Raji> > > > > > Rao Nemani <raon1008> wrote:> > Hare Rama Krishna,> > > > Dear KPK,> > > > Let me attempt to give few principles related to UL and AL > > based on my understanding and studies so far.> > > > I was tought by Guru Ji to see first the basics of any > > matter which we are interested in. So let see the basic > > building blocks for the the marriage and add the UL and AL > > components on the top of it.> > > > Marriage is basically a dharma, so first thing we need to > > see is whether native can marry and also we must determine > > whether the native has capability to give. > > > > This is done by seeing the relationship between Arudha > > Lagna and Upapada Lagna:> > > > Now coming to your question:> > > > Let us take few examples and see what relationship we > > can find from that.> > > > * If the Upapada is in the 12th from Arudha Lagna, the > > native ignores the spouse, eventhough the spouse is a > > good person. As you know, 12th house is "Vyaya Sthana" > > which represents Loss, so if UL is placed here then by > > ignoring the spouse only the native' losses some > > thing isn't it.> > > > * If the Upapada is in the 7th house from Arudha Lagna, > > the native perceives marriage as an obstruction to their > > ideals and this could delay marriage. As you know, > > 7th house represents "Bharya-sthan / Maraka-sthan", > > and also desires, so combining those principels with > > the placement of UL in this house, we can see clearly > > how the native perceives the marriage as an obstruction > > to their ideals.> > > > Like this, I would take the basic principles and continue> > my analysis.> > > > Request Guru's and Learned Members to correct me if > > my thinking is not correct.> > > > Regards> > Raghunadha Rao> > > > --- In vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar" > > <kpkanitkar> wrote:> > > Hello All,> > > I Have one question regarding UL. How to Relate UL with Respect > to > > > AL?> > > > > > what if UL is 12th to AL or UL is 2nd to AL or like that? Does i > > > hold some significance say UL is say X house from AL? are there > any > > > astrological principals ?> > > > > > Regards> > > KPK> > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" > > <raon1008> > > > wrote:> > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > > > > > Namaste Visti Ji,> > > > > > > > Thank you very much for such a wonderful message, see how can> > > > I miss the Grahana (Eclipse) for Chandra with Ketu. > > > > > > > > When I think deeply on what you wrote, it makes a much sense> > > > on the Moon+Ketu is an extreme situations. Thanks for teaching> > > > a wonderful thing. Please remember, my mission is learn from > you> > > > Guru's and pass it on to the next. Thanks for your teachings.> > > > I am leaning everyday from you all.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Raghunadha Rao> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > > > > <balabhadra@j...> wrote:> > > > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > > > > Dear Rao,> > > > > Here's a quote from an old mail of Sanjayji's: > > > > > "The biggest problem in the charts of both prostitutes and > > > saints > > > > is the> > > > > Upapada and here it is afflicted by the Chandra-grahana yoga > > > i.e. > > > > spouse> > > > > will be extremely spiritual or none at all."> > > > > > > > > > Here Chandra-Grahana Yoga is Moon+Ketu Yoga. > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.plaxo.com/signature/> Powered by Plaxo ... Want > a > > > > signature> > > > > like this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rao Nemani [raon1008] > > > > > Monday, November 10, 2003 10:14 PM> > > > > To: vedic astrology> > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: UL> > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,> > > > > > > > > > Dear Raji,> > > > > > > > > > Regarding Moon and Kety in UL, the following is my > > > > > understanding:-> > > > > > > > > > * Moon in Upapada can give a very caring and compassionate > > > > > spouse, with a more pleasant and calming face like that of > > > > > the full-moon. One will have a happy marriage.> > > > > > > > > > * Ketu in Upapada can give marriage to a spiritual/god-> fearing > > > > > spouse. A spouse from a different culture, or a protector > > > > > of thieves (lawyer), all depending on the yoga's/placement > > > > > of Ketu. The spouse may tend to be extremely nagging and > > > > > argumentative until a child is born of the relationship.> > > > > > > > > > May I request Guru's and Leanred members to correct me if > > > > > my thinkig is not correct.> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > Raghunadha Rao> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "rajeswarishankar" > > > > > <rajeswarishankar> wrote:> > > > > > HI List,> > > > > > > > > > > > what about the planets ketu & Moon in UL??> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > Raji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://rd./M=267637.4116730.5333196.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1> > > 7> > > > 05> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 082686:HM/A=1853618/R=0/SIG=11ts59qjv/*http:/www.netflix.com/Default?> > > > mqs> > > > > o=60178338&partid=4116730> click here> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.adserver./l?> > > > M=267637.4116730.5333196.1261774/D=egrou> > > > > pmail/S=:HM/A=1853618/rand=571071879> > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic-> > > astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Hare Rama KrishnaNamaste Rao,You wrote: "* The 2nd house from Upapada shows the troubles to marriage* A benefic planet/sign in the 2nd from Upapada will give the spouse a beautiful face etc." I wanted to add an important principle to your post that you may already know. The second from any house shows it's sustenance. So, if there are malefic influence on the second house from the UP, it is difficult for the marriage to sustain itself. This is why the diety associated with lord of the second house from UP is propiciated by mantra as a remedy to troubled marriages. With best wishes, Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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